the promised pic.

If you plan to cool your CPU only, thermochill is seriously overkill and not needed at all. A swiftech dual rad can cool as well as Thermochill PA120.3 if use on the CPU only.

Thermochill rad only will shine at multi block setup. But using a better block will help though. Hehe. e.g. Fuzion, GTX and so on.

but he is using mcr220-qp with 2 blocks, cpu and gpu. From what i heard its recommended to get 3x120mm radiator if using VGA + CPU in one loop. But his setup is identical as mine, i am quite statisfied with mine with x2 3800+ oc to 2.7ghz. and also my 1950xt oced to 702 mhz core.

nice temp... u sorted out ur problem???

basically yes.
now i'm sure it was the contact between cpu block and the proc itself. using another Q6600 G0 and it worked out ok. previous proc, mounted and re-mounted a few times, still have the same temp.

so, i think now i can move to the next phase.

bowed the GT would be possible solution but it won't be good one coz can't reverse the process in the end ..

Besides I'm running my rig all at default speed and the gc block is showing good result.. I'm not sure how good triple rad would does on my current loop .... should be a bit better but not on par ...

Hi . want to ask why i use Gemin II last time .

Idle - 37 ~ 38
Load - 45 ~ 47

Now i changed to Gigabyte 3D Galaxy

Idle - 37 ~ 38
Load - 40 ~ 42

It is not much different . Am i choosed wrong liquid cooling system or its is normal ?

i'm oso not sure, i tried variuos method but it seems like the cpu ain't benefiting much from wc... the nb n gpu gaining the most out of it... however i does shows more stable temp for my cpu...

hmm coz that isn't the best cooling kit ever, it's just an entry level to wc ..

it's better than thermaltake but still par from other well known brand like ..swiftech, alphacool, and etc ..

if u really want a distinctive results than look for no other than those brands that's really does the job well.

Yah same here, idle temperature doesn't get any better but the load temperature better than using air cooling ..

I think a better block would does it better, the true potential of the block only unveil when proc has been OCed ..

Like u said other component really get benefits more .. like my GPU .. hooo 40c of difference when comes to load ..

I could never go back to air cooling for gc to achieve such result and as the generation move one the gc just doesn't get any cooler ... especially among ATI higher end model ..

High level WC kit cost too much . Worth to get it ?

LOL, isit worth to get the Galaxy? look at those temps, same like using GeminII...

like dat better use air cooling, less hassle...

if really wanna use WC, get the mentioned brand by Doom...

that's the only way for satisfaction, of course with a price tag

water and air cooling have 1 thing in common, they cant get below ambient no matter how well it works............that why idle does not differ much from each other, in some cases direct contact of hsf with ambient workout even better.

water cool main idea is coping the extreme heat at high load, u see Doom 2900XT shows significant result already, from 80oC drop to 48oC (from what i remember, correct me if mistake please.......)

water cooling loop also have another advantage, the amount of sensible heat water can absorb is huge thus leveling out sudden heat increase and creates stable cooling power.........

Yah u got the whole concept right LExus65 ..

Indeed like what he described is true.... it only brings down the heat level close to ambient temperature during idle but won't really close to especially not with gc ..

the reason of having wc is not having high load temperature that would increases the temperature within the case affecting other component that's not cooled by wc ...

btw my 2900XT temperature is as following:

Stock cooler with MX-1 thermal paste
Idle: 65c Load: 88c

WC Kit dual rad with Artic Cooling case fan@34cfm each:
Idle: 43~4c Load 48c

That's 40c +- difference ...

i grab 2nd hand one ..

maybe change the rad to a 120mm unit might give u better result in load temp... galaxy is quite good, it's better than bigwater n definitely last longer than bigwater too... ur temp isn't bad at all... i think u can still oc higher!!! n ur galaxy 8500GE tend for very high oc too, since u have a nice hsf installed... ther's a fren of mine willing to sell his DD gpu block in near perfect condition for sell, he is in sabah too... pm me if interested...

in my past experience using water cooling with my x2 3800+, Opty 170, Opty 144 for my previously owned cpu and also graphic card, x1950xt... i watercooled them using apogee gt, aquaxtreme mp-01 vga block and a mcr220qp radiator, the result turn out to be almost same as good air coolers at idle, few degrees above ambient, but when it comes to full load, u will notice the full power of water cooling. For opty 144, its a delta of maximum 6c during full load using stock vcore and oc to 2.7ghz, can do 3ghz with higher vcore(forgotten though as its long been sold) with a delta of around 10c. For opteron 170, i can reach 1.58v of oc to 2.7ghz with temps around 55+ celcius, which surely air coolers cnt handle tht in an non-air conditioned room. and for x2 3800+, i can reach 2.8ghz with 1.48v vcore, with juz 50+celcius load temp, which is a nice temp compare to those air cooled x2 with such oc and vcore. i also cooled my oced 1950xt(core:708mhz,mem:2100mhz) in the same loop with good temps, 39-42c idle 48-50c load. i also water cooled a 7600gt before using the same loop settings and juz 3 celcius of different between load and idle. as a conclusion, true water cooling power are only noticable when it comes to oc and full load. juz to mention, u'll also get more silent setup using water cooling and get better temps thn air coolers with noisy fans.

+ in my opinion, i think 3d galaxy are better thn those tt bigwater and cm aquagate as its using larger tubings, 1/2ID if not wrong. and also if u got extra $$$ in future, u can upgrade the pump or the cpu block to a better ones, such as mcp-655 for pumps, or apogee gt or fuzion cpu block. as for the radiator, i think its alright if u just cooling ur cpu.

One term investment that has not regret would be better than upgrading part by part .. coz water cooling kit hardly got price drop only phase out ...

So invest on good block especially cpu block cos it could last year 2 years at least ... which don't know how many air cooler got purchase hoping the performance would come close to wc..

Invest wisely and the kit could last long, only pump and tube need replacement as time passed ... of course coolant as well .. but it won't be too costly compared to the performance gained ..

another thing to note with the gigabyte 3d galaxy. afaik, the radiator is aluminium but the waterblock is copper. make sure you use coolant when you're mixing aluminium and copper or corrosion is gonna happen a lot faster.

aluminum radiator is very much cheaper compare to copper 1............. but speaking of galvanizing effects, unless ur coolant is very very conductive it hardly noticeble corrossion problem......

after seeing some result describe by you guys, i'm itchy to get a water cooling kit too. i wander how far can my quad go with WC kits.....

go triple rad and with good block .. surely it could goes up to 4ghz ...

as long as u have the space to confine the rad it would be all right ...

or probably run a dual loop one for each block .. hahahah money money ..where is it.....