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 Panasonic Viera TV Fan Club V.2, Plasma, LCD & LED models.

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post Apr 6 2011, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Apr 6 2011, 04:34 PM)
Why so troublesome? Some shops have connect their TV to camera that shoot specific location of their shop.  Take those oppotuanity to test your skin tone lah.  Compared your skin colour with the colour of your skin in the TV.  wink.gif
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not all shop do that ler... hehe...


Added on April 6, 2011, 4:46 pmalso, if I see the camera, I'll go calibrate that camera first just in case its not the camera processing problem tongue.gif

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post Apr 6 2011, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 6 2011, 04:17 PM)
the only way to know which is correct is to have actually seen the real truck. Only by having seen the real thing can you know which TV is displaying the color correctly. And we have no way of doing that. That is why i use human skin tone and red flower as reference because we see those everyday. IMO Sony have one of the worst red because they are so unreal to my eyes.
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we actually do. in the form of colorimeter.
plasma or led or lcd or projector have to be calibrated to get good result, to make it display the colors as close to how the video are shot at.

my plasma looks horrible with the standard settings. be it in any mode.
i'm telling my friends if they don't wanna tweak the settings get an LED because that looks better out of the box.
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post Apr 6 2011, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 6 2011, 05:43 PM)
we actually do. in the form of colorimeter.
plasma or led or lcd or projector have to be calibrated to get good result, to make it display the colors as close to how the video are shot at.

my plasma looks horrible with the standard settings. be it in any mode.
i'm telling my friends if they don't wanna tweak the settings get an LED because that looks better out of the box.
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Everyone have their own preference colour. You can expect everyone like the same colour tone.
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post Apr 6 2011, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(irinachangf @ Apr 6 2011, 01:55 PM)
but the links showed Samsung is more natural and Panasonic is over saturated, there were visible motion artifacts, flicker and judder effects as well.


http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pan...-tcp50vt25.html

http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/sam...-pn50c8000.html
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To be frank, both are flagships and both are plasmas. I would think the PQ differences would not be that significant. If it is so one-sided, there won't be fans for the other camp. The remaining factor would be reliability, after-sales service and price/performance.

Since I post here often, my preference is obvious. Enough of my personal friends who has owned Samsung LCDs/LEDs has convinced me not to buy Samsung. Go ask around for more real world feedback instead of solely relying on just PQ and technicalities alone.
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post Apr 6 2011, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 04:27 PM)
its not a confirmation also. How you know if the tone is correct for that specific person or flower? maybe its very red leh?
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if you want to split hair then you have to spend lots me money to buy professional color measuring equipment. You want to do that? If not and you still can not roughly tell what skin tone are supposed to look like then are you sure you want to buy expensive TV because it looks like wasting money. Just buy one with the sharpness picture and ignore the color or whatever that make you happy.

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post Apr 6 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 03:48 PM)
i was watching Panasonic Plasma and Panasonic LED. Both same source showing a truck.

On plasma, I see dark blood red (dark red) - setting is dynamic. While LED show dramatic red (setting is Cinema).

The problem is, I dunno the real red of the truck is which one. I tend to believe the real red is bright red eventhough
I might be wrong.

Here is the LED version:
user posted image

Here is the Plasma version:
user posted image

Problem is, which one is real? That time is bright daylight outdoor movie.
oh, means Pana is more colorful.
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wah...bro, same sources? sweat.gif
misleading ppl to fall in trap....
the car model also different, sure the color shade and density are different.
for me both also real, the first car is clean and yellowish shade red, the second is dirty and bluish shade red
ha...

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post Apr 6 2011, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(xenon99 @ Apr 6 2011, 11:26 PM)
wah...bro, same sources?  sweat.gif
misleading ppl to fall in trap....
the car model also different, sure the color shade and density are different.
for me both also real, the first car is clean and yellowish shade red, the second is dirty and bluish shade red
ha...
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aiya example la... the color is what I see side by side comparison yo
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post Apr 7 2011, 01:14 AM

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Hi,

I own a p42x28k plasma tv and recently I'm seeing a green horizontal line going across the screen about a third of the way from the bottom. It's not very apparent normally, but in darker scenes, you can see it clearly.

I'm callling Panasonic's customer service tomorrow as it's not even a year old yet, so it's still within the warranty period. Hopefully it's nothing major.

Has anyone else encountered this?
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post Apr 7 2011, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 6 2011, 03:48 PM)
i was watching Panasonic Plasma and Panasonic LED. Both same source showing a truck.

On plasma, I see dark blood red (dark red) - setting is dynamic. While LED show dramatic red (setting is Cinema).

The problem is, I dunno the real red of the truck is which one. I tend to believe the real red is bright red eventhough
I might be wrong.

Here is the LED version:
user posted image

Here is the Plasma version:
user posted image

Problem is, which one is real? That time is bright daylight outdoor movie.
oh, means Pana is more colorful.
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These 2 are totally different truck so different color.



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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 7 2011, 08:45 AM)
These 2 are totally different truck so different color.
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adui... pls la... I already said its just an example... how many times I need to repeat it.... sweat.gif
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post Apr 7 2011, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2011, 08:48 AM)
adui... pls la... I already said its just an example... how many times I need to repeat it....  sweat.gif
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Kakaka...sabar la kawan...forum is like this wan mah. tongue.gif
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post Apr 7 2011, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Apr 7 2011, 08:58 AM)
Kakaka...sabar la kawan...forum is like this wan mah. tongue.gif
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true la...haha... i said adui because its just few post back that I said its just example of color differences between LED
and plasma. Its not real pix I take from the shop. icon_question.gif
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post Apr 7 2011, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2011, 08:48 AM)
adui... pls la... I already said its just an example... how many times I need to repeat it....  sweat.gif
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You should find a better example. You shouldn't even consider using an example of an orange and an apple.


Added on April 7, 2011, 9:54 am
QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 6 2011, 05:43 PM)
we actually do. in the form of colorimeter.
plasma or led or lcd or projector have to be calibrated to get good result, to make it display the colors as close to how the video are shot at.

my plasma looks horrible with the standard settings. be it in any mode.
i'm telling my friends if they don't wanna tweak the settings get an LED because that looks better out of the box.
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Drawing from my times with Hi Fi, there are 2 types of people.

One type would want the reproduction of sound (or picture) to be as close to the original as possible. These people mostly went for Solid State amplifier.

The other type couldn't care less whether the reproduced sound (or picture) is close to the original or not as long as it sounded nice. They wanted the sound to be 'nicer' than the original, sugar coated so to speak. These people mostly went for tube amplifier with it's characteristic euphoric sound on vocal.

Therefore, if a person like vivid (less natural color), that's his business. For me, I learn toward more natural color or whatever color I like (and that's why I am not thinking of calibration for now)

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 7 2011, 09:45 AM)
You should find a better example. You shouldn't even consider using an example of an orange and an apple.
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ok, I rest my case. I place the picture to show u the different color. Not the model of the truck idiot.
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post Apr 7 2011, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2011, 09:54 AM)
ok, I rest my case. I place the picture to show u the different color. Not the model of the truck idiot.
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And this is coming from a person who think good sound means merely being loud. I suppose you like listening to jack hammer? You sure have funny taste.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1822476
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 7 2011, 10:02 AM)
And this is coming from a person who think good sound means merely being loud. I suppose you like listening to jack hammer? You sure have funny taste.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1822476
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i merely replying to the topic in hand. So?
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post Apr 7 2011, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2011, 10:06 AM)
i merely replying to the topic in hand. So?
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Show how mature you are.

1. Comparing orange with an apple.
2. Jack hammering is good sound because it is loud rclxub.gif
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post Apr 7 2011, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 7 2011, 10:09 AM)
Show how mature you are.

1. Comparing orange with an apple.
2. Jack hammering is good sound because it is loud  rclxub.gif
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That does not show maturity. Arguing on the forum does show that we have no maturity. laugh.gif
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post Apr 7 2011, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(irinachangf @ Apr 6 2011, 11:08 AM)
the below links rated vt20=90.6 and samsung PN50C8000=94.5

http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/pan...-tcp50vt25.html

http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/sam...-pn50c8000.html

Is that true that Pana picture quality and performance are bad compared to Samsung series 8?  cry.gif I just bought vt20 from Perfect Living on Sunday.  cry.gif
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Panansonic VT25 Series Post
Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast +85
Brightness +72
Color +48
Tint 0
Sharpness 0
Color Temp WARM2

that reviewer calibration is totally unbelievable with brightness at +72 . that will totally crushed black levels and unwatchable
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post Apr 7 2011, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Apr 7 2011, 09:13 AM)
true la...haha... i said adui because its just few post back that I said its just example of color differences between LED
and plasma. Its not real pix I take from the shop.  icon_question.gif
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then better to just leave it at that bro. no point in arguing with others
a waste of time to type for the sake of it. better fire up your movie setup and go watch something. heck even taking a nap is better than arguing on the net. biggrin.gif

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