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RedQueen12
post Jul 14 2012, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Evildocry @ Jul 13 2012, 09:07 AM)
Recently got 2 offer that confusing my mind.

Age            : 26
Year of Exp : 3 years
Education    : Engineering Degree + MBA (on going)

Option 1
Company : Europe MNC
Industry  : General
Title        : Business Development Exe
Salary      : RM4100 (basic) + RM1000 (allowance) + RM0.50 (mileage claim) + 13 month salary +
                  performance bonus 0 (min) - 4.5 months (max)

Option 2
Company : Europe MNC
Industry  : General
Title        : Sales Exe
Salary      : RM6000 (basic) + RM600 (allowance) + RM750 (petrol claim) +
                  performance bonus 0 (min) - 4 months (max)

Option 1 or Option 2 better?

Option 1 is based in Malaysia HQ with colleagues and proper supervision from Top Management.
Option 2 is based in sales office (1 man show) with no colleague, phone supervision from General Manager (business unit) & fly to
Sg for sales training and meeting every 1 - 2 month.

If what I am concern is future career progression, which 1 should i choose?

Salary with be 2nd factor at time being but 1st factor for soon or later.
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May I know currently in what industry are u?
giftfre
post Jul 17 2012, 01:08 PM

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Job Title : Senior Engineer
Job Desciption : NPI
Years spent in company : 4
Company : MNC
Industry : Electronic/ Manufacturing
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Non-Executive
Experience before joining : 1.5 yr
salary : RM 3.5k
benefit : Petro Allowance RM200, Dental RM200, Car allowance RM135, OT (RM12/hr)

Can i know this remuneration is consider ok or not ok?
iastate
post Jul 17 2012, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(giftfre @ Jul 17 2012, 01:08 PM)
Job Title : Senior Engineer
Job Desciption : NPI
Years spent in company : 4
Company : MNC
Industry : Electronic/ Manufacturing
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Non-Executive
Experience before joining : 1.5 yr
salary : RM 3.5k
benefit : Petro Allowance RM200, Dental RM200, Car allowance RM135, OT (RM12/hr)

Can i know this remuneration is consider ok or not ok?
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So you have 5.5 years of experience in total. Even with the allowances, I think you are underpaid. You should explore other job opportunities and I bet others are willing to offer you at least 4k for basic salary.

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post Jul 18 2012, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(Evildocry @ Jul 13 2012, 09:07 AM)
Recently got 2 offer that confusing my mind.

Age            : 26
Year of Exp : 3 years
Education    : Engineering Degree + MBA (on going)

Option 1
Company : Europe MNC
Industry  : General
Title        : Business Development Exe
Salary      : RM4100 (basic) + RM1000 (allowance) + RM0.50 (mileage claim) + 13 month salary +
                  performance bonus 0 (min) - 4.5 months (max)

Option 2
Company : Europe MNC
Industry  : General
Title        : Sales Exe
Salary      : RM6000 (basic) + RM600 (allowance) + RM750 (petrol claim) +
                  performance bonus 0 (min) - 4 months (max)

Option 1 or Option 2 better?

Option 1 is based in Malaysia HQ with colleagues and proper supervision from Top Management.
Option 2 is based in sales office (1 man show) with no colleague, phone supervision from General Manager (business unit) & fly to
Sg for sales training and meeting every 1 - 2 month.

If what I am concern is future career progression, which 1 should i choose?

Salary with be 2nd factor at time being but 1st factor for soon or later.
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I would go for 1 man show rm6k basic.
dezmondlim
post Jul 18 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(iastate @ Jul 17 2012, 09:52 PM)
So you have 5.5 years of experience in total. Even with the allowances, I think you are underpaid. You should explore other job opportunities and I bet others are willing to offer you at least 4k for basic salary.
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are u working in KL? i guess not
giftfre
post Jul 18 2012, 11:11 AM

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Is in Selangor.
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post Jul 18 2012, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(giftfre @ Jul 17 2012, 01:08 PM)
Job Title : Senior Engineer
Job Desciption : NPI
Years spent in company : 4
Company : MNC
Industry : Electronic/ Manufacturing
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : Non-Executive
Experience before joining : 1.5 yr
salary : RM 3.5k
benefit : Petro Allowance RM200, Dental RM200, Car allowance RM135, OT (RM12/hr)

Can i know this remuneration is consider ok or not ok?
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this is just the basic necessity, but the grass may be greener on the other side...
u decide

iastate
post Jul 18 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(dezmondlim @ Jul 18 2012, 10:45 AM)
are u working in KL? i guess not
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Unfortunately, I am. Or are you referring to giftfre?

This post has been edited by iastate: Jul 18 2012, 01:53 PM
dezmondlim
post Jul 18 2012, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(iastate @ Jul 18 2012, 01:51 PM)
Unfortunately, I am. Or are you referring to giftfre?
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time to move on i guess ... good luck to u bro
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post Jul 18 2012, 05:05 PM

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Hi all, I need advice regarding my current career and pay.

Job Title: Digital Media Programmer (basically web developer)
Job Description: create/maintain Facebook apps & Microsite
What I actually do: Web developer, Inventory Managing (gadgets loan to staff eg camera, v.cam, tablets, laptops etc), IT Technician (fixing/torubleshooting staffs' laptops etc)



Probation period salary: rm 2200
Salary after comfirmation: rm 2500
Current salary: rm 2800
(above salary is what I see on the cheque every month)
EPF: Yes
OT: Not counted
Working hours: 9.30am to 7pm (but 50% of the time I go back after 9pm. boss did buy us dinner sometimes)
Annual leave: unknown (will add this once I've got the info, mostly is 12-18 days)




My education level: Diploma in Computer Science
College graduated: TARC
Past working experience: None for permanent, 2-3 freelance jobs during college time (website and stuffs)

Currently there is only 1 person in the digital department (me).
This is my first real job after graduated from my Diploma course.
I have really learned a lot from working with this company. Now I find that this company has provided all the knowledge (programming skills) possible (in short I think I've done learning everything a programmer would've hmm.gif ).
It also gave me opportunity to work with cool companies like P&G and Samsung (digital side).

I need advice from you guys.
Should I continue working with this company?
Ask for pay raise? (did received once)
Continue working?

I don't know much since I've just started working.

This post has been edited by hadeanmars: Jul 18 2012, 05:13 PM
iastate
post Jul 18 2012, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(hadeanmars @ Jul 18 2012, 05:05 PM)
Hi all, I need advice regarding my current career and pay.

Job Title: Digital Media Programmer (basically web developer)
Job Description: create/maintain Facebook apps & Microsite
What I actually do: Web developer, Inventory Managing (gadgets loan to staff eg camera, v.cam, tablets, laptops etc), IT Technician (fixing/torubleshooting staffs' laptops etc)
Probation period salary: rm 2200
Salary after comfirmation: rm 2500
Current salary: rm 2800
(above salary is what I see on the cheque every month)
EPF: Yes
OT: Not counted
Working hours: 9.30am to 7pm (but 50% of the time I go back after 9pm. boss did buy us dinner sometimes)
Annual leave: unknown (will add this once I've got the info, mostly is 12-18 days)
My education level: Diploma in Computer Science
College graduated: TARC
Past working experience: None for permanent, 2-3 freelance jobs during college time (website and stuffs)

Currently there is only 1 person in the digital department (me).
This is my first real job after graduated from my Diploma course.
I have really learned a lot from working with this company. Now I find that this company has provided all the knowledge (programming skills) possible (in short I think I've done learning everything a programmer would've  hmm.gif ).
It also gave me opportunity to work with cool companies like P&G and Samsung (digital side).

I need advice from you guys.
Should I continue working with this company?
Ask for pay raise? (did received once)
Continue working?

I don't know much since I've just started working.
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How long have you been with this company? If it's less than 1 year, I think your pay is actually pretty good for a diploma holder. Diploma holders generally get paid less than degree holders.

Anyway, you can explore other opportunities and see what offers you can get. It doesn't mean you want to leave your current company, but it's always worthwhile to know how much you are really worth.

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post Jul 18 2012, 08:37 PM

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what is the market rate for finance guy with 5 years exp in a multinational company(manufacturing)?

Age: 26
Education: Leonhart88, BSc,CFA,ACMA,CGMA
Years spent in company: 4 years (2k-> 2.2k->2.5k->3.5k)
Prior exp: 1 year (RM 1.5k)
Current salary : RM 3.5k

My bachelor degree is just a PASS degree only.
Am I underpaid? What should I get for the market rate?
Thanks

This post has been edited by leonhart88: Jul 18 2012, 08:40 PM
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post Jul 19 2012, 11:00 AM

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Job Title : Network Engineer
Job Desciption : Product support
(basically provide support for new products brought into the company, also contains non-related job scope such as company computer maintenance and company internetwork)
Age: 24 this year
Education: Cert
Years spent in company : 2.8
Company : Chinaman
Industry : Security
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Snr Exec
Experience before joining : Nil
salary : RM 3+
benefit : Petro Allowance RM300, Dental RM200, Mileage 0.5sen/km during jobs only, OT (RM5/hr)

I need to know, should I continue with this place or hop around? But most importantly, I've been contemplating to continue study because no degree/mba/dip very hard to get opportunity.
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post Jul 19 2012, 11:34 AM

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Age: 24
Education: Civil Engineering
Years spent in company: 1.5 years (1.8k-> 2.1k->2.5k) After 1.5 years, baru revise salary to 2.5k this month. @@
Current salary : RM 2.1k (end of this month will take 2.5k)

Am I underpaid? What should I get for the market rate?
Thanks

I am thinking of jumping ship to O&G. Good pay! Good idea for civil engineer?
hadeanmars
post Jul 19 2012, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(iastate @ Jul 18 2012, 08:01 PM)
How long have you been with this company? If it's less than 1 year, I think your pay is actually pretty good for a diploma holder. Diploma holders generally get paid less than degree holders.

Anyway, you can explore other opportunities and see what offers you can get. It doesn't mean you want to leave your current company, but it's always worthwhile to know how much you are really worth.
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I started working with this company on 22 February 2012.

I do like to know how much do I worth considering my skills, knowledge, attitude etc.
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post Jul 19 2012, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(hadeanmars @ Jul 19 2012, 01:15 PM)
I started working with this company on 22 February 2012.

I do like to know how much do I worth considering my skills, knowledge, attitude etc.
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Nobody can tell you how much you are worth. Your perceived value depends on how employers evaluate you and part of the evaluation comes from your interview performance and soft skills. That's why I said you should explore other opportunities and see what you can get from other companies. IMHO, given your education and experience, 2.8k is actually a generous offer. I don't know if there are other companies willing to pay better than this for a diploma holder who has less than one year of work experience.
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post Jul 19 2012, 01:50 PM

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Job Title : Junior Quantity Surveying
Education: Diploma in Quantity Surveying
Job Desciption : Do some Main-con claim, sub-con claim, taking off,site visit and etc..
Years spent in company : 7 month
Company : Local Sub-Contractor
Industry : Construction Line
Tenure : permanent
Employment Level : nil
Experience before joining : Nil brows.gif
salary : 2k(Starting 1.7k basic)>2.3k(Confirm 2k basic)k>2.6k(Start this month)
benefit : anyhow claim Car Fuel..40km claim RM20 or more, 12 days annual leave, RM50 or less medical claim

What do you think? underpaid or overpaid hmm.gif but Work as Sub-Contractor need face Indon people (Most difficult things ever like baby) sweat.gif

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post Jul 19 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(iastate @ Jul 19 2012, 01:38 PM)
Nobody can tell you how much you are worth. Your perceived value depends on how employers evaluate you and part of the evaluation comes from your interview performance and soft skills. That's why I said you should explore other opportunities and see what you can get from other companies. IMHO, given your education and experience, 2.8k is actually a generous offer. I don't know if there are other companies willing to pay better than this for a diploma holder who has less than one year of work experience.
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Thanks a lot for the advice!
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post Jul 20 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(the golden sukuk @ Jul 5 2012, 12:10 AM)
maak aih...baru jadi associate dah gaji 4K, firm mane nih?
seriously overpaid...kje plaing kuat pun buat research je...tak pun jadi balaci master kt court
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Aiman dah Kira tinggi ni, I dapat offer 3.1 bagi heavy litigation portfolio, Kena kerja hari sabtu Dan ahad pulak.kamu Kena bersyukur dpt 4k kerja 9 am-9pm, btw, how much is the market rate for new admitted lawyer? Some ppls will say 3.3-3.5 depends on firm.

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post Jul 20 2012, 12:27 PM

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Job Title : Finance Executive
Education: Degree in Accounting and Finance
Job Desciption : Ordinary accounting work - estate oriented (as description per se)
Tenure : permanent
salary : 2.3k - increase upon 3 months confirmation as they said
benefit : insurance..medical (general briefing)

Just to share the info, is the paid matching with the market trend?

thanks.

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