My zoom lens all has VR , only lens without VR is primes for me .

The D800 or whatever it is called has to have tremendous upgrade from it's predecessor D700 as rumors have it saying the Canon 5D mark3 has 28m mega pixels, less noise on high ISO, improved metering, improved AF system and accepting SD card. So Nikon may have to raise their own bars to in order to compete in the full frame business.

This post has been edited by pikipiki: Jan 27 2011, 03:14 PM

can't some1 shoot in indoor without VC? I thought bumb the ISO will do. especially you have D7000. up to ISO 6400 still good.
why even bother about VC?

how about wide-angle lens?

I use 1635 f/4 VR

I think the problem is about the focal length. The longer the focal length, the greater the shake will affect the image and thru your viewfinder it is as if there are some earthquake going on.

But below 60mm I think it is still ok without any IS/VR/VC, haven't tried any telephoto lens without VR tho.

Its better if you go to the shops and try the VC and Non VC lens, see which one works best for you. Different people different requirement, some need it and some dont. For me VR/VC/OS or whatever its called are always welcome.

that the reason I doubt having VC in tammy 1750 is essential as it's maximum range is only 50mm.
moreover VC version seems less sharp
http://thrillmere.com/2010/09/tamron-17-50...-vc-comparison/

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Added on January 27, 2011, 1:13 pmthanks for the input bro. I think I will grab tammy 1750 non-VC instead. but let's see.

This post has been edited by aldosoesilo: Jan 27 2011, 01:13 PM

Try without VC above 100mm, hahahaha, earthquake! and it is super hard to focus on your subject as the view in viewfinder keep on bouncing even if you have steady hand as the long focal length magnifies the shake.

imo, if u need VC just go for it.
it may be slightly less sharp, but to most ppl if they dont compare wont notice the diff...not as if the pics going to national geographic anyway

My Tokina 50-135mm doesnt have any kind of stabilization so i know the feeling first hand

Summore imagine wearing a paintball mask which makes you barely see the viewfinder, its abit of a nightmare

and yes u can bump to iso6400, but say for like nikon VR that can do 3-4 stops less, means at the same shutter and aperture u can use iso800...

shooting indoor with mine sigma 28-300 without flash is a nightmare..

At 300mm is f/5.6? or f/6.3?

@Aldo get non VC i get VC LOL. =D

Anyway last time the len got VR meh ?? Ppl still able to shoot right ? Somemore yours range just between 17-50mm , if telephoto that different case lar

Correct me if im wrong

Sell your kitty and get the Tamron, it's quite a vast difference having f/2.8 constant aperture and better optics. You can also consider the Sigma 18-50mm EX DC Macro, which provide some slight macro capability of 1:3 magnification, allows you to focus very very close.

As for VC, required or not, once you try you will know. Have you tested at Nikon BTS?
The 80-200mm f/2.8 is without VC, how do you think people shoot with that? The rule of thumb is to use the correct shutter speed, hold your camera properly.
You can try in Nikon BTS, with 80-200mm, at 200mm on DX, if you hold the camera properly, you will find that you can still get tack sharp images even at speed below 1/200, although you should be using ss over 1/300.

Another difference is... the lens. Try using the 55-200 or 55-300 lens, turn off VR, see how SHAKY it is, it's really bad... Then try the 70-300mm VR, turn off the VR, see how shaky it is.... You'll be thinking how can you hold it steady on those lens without VR....
Then... switch to 80-200mm.... see the difference in weight, build quality and BE AMAZED how it's not shaky compared to the lower end glass.
With FLASH, you can even go lower shutter speed as flash helps to freeze the motion a little. I've tested 1/30 @ 200mm and still get tack sharp images when viewed at 100%. The problem with such slow shutter speed is, movement may cause double vision kind of image, sort of like viewing those 3D picture without 3D glasses; this is when zoom in.

Of course, VR will help especially if you're shooting close up. Try to shoot the miniature model close up, you need to really hold it and set higher shutter speed. Close up shooting will require VR or unless you set high shutter speed but then your focusing will suffer if you're on wide aperture and you moved out of the focusing depth.
Try the 70-200mm VRII and be AMAZED what the VR can do... you can do close-up shot of the miniature and get clear and tack sharp images. I can even focus and get tack sharp image of the uncle inside the shop doing the Rotan thing, of the old lady hidden inside the hut at the padi field. Amazing... but dem the price!

VC good when doing close-up shoot as explain above. Or if you're at long focal length, you can lower your shutter speed to compensate for using lower iso in order to get the correct exposure.

Usually, try not to bump too much on the ISO unless required. But remember, getting wrongly exposed image will suffer more noise than higher ISO.
e.g. ISO800 incorrectly expose will have more noise than ISO1600 correctly exposed.
So, this also explains why some people complains that the ISO is not good, when in fact, they're not shooting right.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Jan 27 2011, 01:59 PM

IS/VC/VR/OS = useful when u ask someone to take picture of u (no tripod) ...hehe. if not ur picture blur without reason n u regretted it ..

Usually when I ask someone else to take photo for me I bump ISO + shutter speed up. LOL, focusing point also enable all 51 ._.

^^ Enable all the focus point one is very important

Play safe. I the same like u except I lock the focus point to middle only.

click on the icon for more details.

u need this if without VR... all for longer telephoto lenses.
so...start training or less smoking. hahahaha.

This post has been edited by daze: Jan 27 2011, 02:03 PM