lozitech-5500 build in DAC better or soundcard such as, 'audigy2 , audiotrack , emu'?
on spec of maximize this spec performance

what do you mean by performance? do you mean music quality?
EMU or Audiotrak would be a good choice for quality but it doesn't help with frame rates not that I remember off (with my setup).

not frame rates

in term of sound quality
direct use digital output from mboard better?
or add on soundcard to use analog output

Some people in some forum says that the built in decoder for Z5500 is crappier then soundcard such as A2ZS or A4 Pro. But that's what they say .. who knows. Have to ask owners of Z5500 here.

Wouldn't be surprised if the decoder sucked...

hi I have just repurchased my 5500s cos the last time i had it the bass and sound levels were so low they were like 4 times less than the 680s that i used to own...However now i am again encountering the same problem i cant believe it!!!!Im using the nforce2 MCP-T soundstorm soundacrd inbuilt on my mboard which is supposed to be really compatible with these speakers.I even purchased an optical cable to get digital sound.However the sound still remains the same(it detects all the inputs and effects though but the sound and bass especially is veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy low!!!!!).I plugged in the direct channel and switched inputs...same result.Im starting to wonder if these speakers are supposed to sound this way but i Really doubt it.So i tried it on my friend'a laptop and the sound was the same:(((((( Im really worried and I really feel like just sending it back and trading it in for the 680s again:((but before i do that i wanna ask if anyone out here can help me.i havent posted here in like a year so i dont have time to read all the posts so if someone could help me that would be great. my driver version is 4.57...if anyone is using this setup pls lemme know....I hope someone out here can help thanks alot!!!:)
also if anyone has switched over from the 680 to the 5500 do u find this a problem?
also the last time when i had the 680s i was using audigy1 DE and now im using the onboard soundstorm with optical cable.last time i was using coax...so if anyone can share their experience or help me out that would be greatlah cos im really confused now how come the sound n bass levels so suck:((((

halo. i got problem with my z-680 i bought a week ago. after breaking in for few days, i started to play high bass song with subwoofer volume max, system volume max, then speaker volume only at 50%... then i heard some rattling sound (kRRk kRRk KRRk) from the speaker. at 40% the speaker still sound sweet n can shake my table.

so is my speaker defective or all malaysian z-680 also like this? kinda worried because my z-640 still in lowyat being repaired becoz got rattling sound even at low volume.

u cant put ur bass n system volume at max la..u will spoilt any speaker in ur hand

this is not the way 2 play wit speaker..u will hurt it alot

my advice is..subwoofer volume at 50% or slightly more(depends on ur liking)..then system volume at 70%-75%..speaker at 50%-75%

but i've heard a lot of reviews in da internet they put max subwoofer volume and max volume and still sound very sweet coz it is thx certified.

for example:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/in...in/t164473.html

and of coz many more websites.

u try 2 put full bass in long run..c wat will happen..THX-ed speaker also got its limit

i owned a z5300 and if what they say is true, all logitech systems share the bloody noisy bass. i cant imagine you even thinking of adding more bass!

anyway, the 'THX Certified' multimedia speakers are just pure nonsense. it means nothing

edit: i forgot to tell you, you basically paid logitech who paid Lucasarts for the cert. the multimedia THX cert is a waste of money too, though we cant choose wheter to have it or not


edited to be more specific towards THX mutimedia.

This post has been edited by Silon: Sep 8 2005, 01:25 AM

wat silon said is veli true

yes, ive typed it correctly. logitech's latest project are a 5.1 set with wireless rear speakers, apart from what im reading here [I KNOW I KNOW, people say they're not trustworthy], there isnt much information on the net either. logitech has yet to officially announce it. it should retail at a recommended price of 500USD. im curious wheter its a completely new system or just another modified and face lifted z5500.

cool wireless rear speakers,
huh! 500USD is like RM1900+ tax for 5.1, OMG!!!!!
BTW thank for the info

looks like a upgrade version of z5300,with wireless rear speakers...even the sub are same with the z5300...and it only have a total power of 315 watts RMS...quite low if compare with the z5500...

so that means z-680 cannot go pass half volume at full bass la? means it sux lo. my z-640 also can be at full volume and full bass.

that was not what i meant. i feel that i should explain, but i think i should keep my thoughts to myself

Actually THX Multimedia certification means nuts. It's not quite as easy to get a THX home theater or THX Cinema certification.

tht's not the way 2 use ur speaker..full volume n bass it will hurt ur speaker alot

It will hurt your brains and intestines too.

i see 'young' people [that are older than me] driving around in their cars with the bass so loud i can hear them inside my car, boom boom boom boom. i can feel the beats going through my heart. i wonder what the hell theyre listening to. whats the point, thats not music, its just noise. we dont live in the stoneage, we can differentiate and appreciate a good voice, instruments and and 'music'. we didnt go through 5000 years of civilisation just to listen to mono beats.

This post has been edited by Silon: Sep 8 2005, 02:25 PM

i accept SPL as another category in the audio world... i won't say they are neither uncivilized nor stoneage... SPL sees SQ as ppl who don't appreciate BASS while SQ sees SPL ppl who don't appreciate sound quality who is wrong and who is right depends on which angle u r looking at...

FYI, back in the 5000 yrs of civilisation... they already have live surround the jungle is just full of those sounds

wat soudn card r u using???n u dun put bass to full volume la...50% enuf la...my z5500 also i onli put at 30%

i used to use z680 first version...not the updated decoder one....still no problem except the crack sound on the center speaker la...that one normal...but no woofers can tahan at full volume la....limit abit la..pity ur neighbours....i blasted my z680 last time at 8pm....volume onli at 70% woofer @ 40% n surround @ 50% n police at my door liao la...

this is not the way to use ur PC sound system, u can't push the BASS to MAX.
one thing u got to know, what u using is PC sound system not HOME sound system.
u can't push ur PC sound system to get the SPL like ur HOME sound system.
get it?

z680 is not good enuf for u la ......
u should get a home theater set .. .with THX certified ..... since u like THX so much...

are theyre appreciating good bass or are they just chasing a flawed illusion of 'power' from speakers? highly distorted and overly boomy bass with no substance?

we all have our preferences, i guess thats what makes us different from one another.

yes, thats precisely my point. the ultimate goal of a speaker is to reproduce sound as realistically and as closely to the original as possible. we didnt advance so many years to listen to the beatings of low frequencies.

wow, youre neighbours called the police?! hmmmm you must have really annoyed them

so a HT system's bass settings should always be pushed to the maximum?

oh, my mistake, what i mine is HT without pushed the bass to the max, u can get more SPL than PC sound system.

good point there ! u said it all... so how is thunder suppose to sound ? and the real blast of a cannon should be able to be heard a couple of houses away (as if it's shooting from your house)... if your system is capable of producing realistic sound... it should sound damn loud

my point being is... SPL is part of the system... without the necessary SPL... ur thunder might sounds like a dog bark...

now you awaken the neighbour... this has to be something to do with sound damping... which is a different issue... if u have a vacuum wall around ur room... u will get total sound isolation ... but that will cost a bomb... which is why i mention a total different issue...

and who said about enjoying distorted bass ??? those are inefficient and bad design/manufacturing... and about maxing the sub... a good sub should allow u to push to the max without distortion in sound or watsoever... whether u should push to max or not is another subjective issue... if the thunder u r hearing isn't as real as it is... u turn it up...

This post has been edited by Infinity: Sep 9 2005, 04:56 PM

I remember reading something on head-fi.org about the system volume settings, and they recommend leaving it at maximum because its a digital volume control. You'll lose a little detail by leaving it at anything but maximum. I don't think you should leave the bass settings at max though, aren't the Z-680s boomy enough as they are?

Try stuffing socks into the phase plug it should help reduce some distortion... imo anyway

Also keep stuff away from the sub to avoid rattling... I can't stop my roof from rattling tho

Your audio source is also a factor coz some low sampling mp3's sound terrible.

i guess in addition to a massive blow of low frequency sounds, there is also medium to high frequency sounds.

i guess here is where we find the difference between systems designed more for HTs and cinemas and systems designed more for audio. in an enclosed environment, recordings can be recorded closer to a point of perfection [if there is any ] and thus, an excellent set of speakers would be able to reproduce sound very closely to the original. if youre watching a movie, it'd be harder to capture the sounds of those horses' footsteps thumping on the ground around you [ala LOTR ], right?

in terms of music, im fine if the purpose of adding more bass is to reach a personal preference but i dont see how putting the bass to the maximum settings would be logical. music just werent intended to be listened to this way.

lets say if the recorded sound of the thunder you mentioned is perfect, no flaws whatsoever, just exactly like the original, a good set of speakers [wheter designed for HTs or audio] should be able to give you the same sense of power, right?

[at this point, id suspect the HT/cinema system being a culprit because theyre tuned to give an 'extra' boost in bass, correct me if im wrong... ]

id enjoy a speaker that can go really low and produce super tight notes at moderate and medium bass levels, not pushed to the maximum, distorted or not. an overwhelming amount of bass [just like an overwhelming amount of highs and lows] would jsut spoil the rest of the song, right?

apparently not

try trance or club music subwoofer vol 50% overall vol 50% . if the prob still persists, send the system to the dealer (not the shop), they replaced mine with a new one .. i EXPLODED mine. until got chemical smell coming out of the circuit board. dont want to say what i did with the speaker ..

BTW - they replaced the new one on the spot .. don't even have to come back another day ... sumore got 3y warranty .. letup kau-kau the last few month .. AND DAMMMMMMMN Z680 is now selling for RM999 . I bot mine at RM1450 few years back

Correct me if I am wrong, but it's not exactly wireless rite?

You still need to connect the rear speakers to a power source rite?

yeap. frankly, i dont see how a single wire to the sub can be such a hard thing. doesnt power wires just cause the same problems?

hey guys~

I have Z680 now..can i know what is the difference between Z5500 n Z680? worth of upgrading ? Since both speakers have the same power output of 500W just the Master controller different...

So any other recommandation on it?

CHeers~

i recommend a Gigaworks [as a fanboy, as an owner and as a person who has read comparisons between it and the 5500 ]. no other recommendations on the 5500 except if you need its internal decoder.

Logitech Z-5450

Picture worth a thousand words.

ah, so its officially out
well, they dont look like much, and theyre suggested to retail at 500USD. my ar$e. ill get a gigaworks again and again anyday

Where and who is the dealer?

sure boh rm 999? i got mine at rm 1400

Plan to upgrade to z5500..is worth it?

so basically z680 n 5500 are almost the same thing iz?

Gigaworks price will kill me...my max can afford Z5500..if i have my own huge room..i will consider getting a gigaworks 7.1 without police drop at my house.

the 5500 has improved clarity and improved bass. improvements everywhere. while i will not be able to say wheter its 'worth' upgrading -because this is a very personal opinion-, logic would dictate it is not

the gigaworks is just a couple of hundred bucks more. save a longer time lar

I bought one for RM950 last week. It's an old model so what do you expect?

u mean Z680 is an old model? i seach robincom selling Rm 1350 (if im not mistaken)

Wow if really rm 950 as u said ..i might sell of mine n get z5500 ( i like the master volume control pad)

Overall z680 stil the best 9.5/10 hehe

emm...better clarity and improvement bass..hmm..gigaworks quata at rm 1800 approx...

Z5500 at rm 1500 approx...for a 5.1 system..

For your own preferences, would a Z5500 have much noticable differences between Z680 and Z5500 ? is the sound difference obvious to compare these 2 baby speakers (not gigaworks)

Coz i dont really like Z680 is the Master volume control pad..the digital words on the LCC doesn't look clear..wonder logi Z5500 control pad have batter or sharp display on the LCD.

Creative Gigaworks..i know is powerful..but iz neccessary to spend almost rm2k (approx) to get a computer speakers? hmm..can go for a hi-fi home theatere. (my opinion) IF...let said IF gigaworks.. really have huge difference compare to Z5500 / Z680 then i might save another bucks for it.. (my wallet bleeding hehe)

Thanks~

guys pls use this thread from now on for all about logitech speakers. i've merge all similar thread together for easier discussion. thanks

scotty

@scotty

Thanks a lot man..is alot easier for me to ask q without looking both thread. *thumbs up*

hey dude~

I just check the Z5500 speakers..i went to the shop n ask the differences between Z680 n Z5500..they said jus the design n the LCD control pad different..

Any more major differences? Is this Z5500 latest model? when it launch?

Thanks

you should go and do a comparison between the 5500 and your own songs. if you have a friend who has a 5500, bring along your soundcard and your songs, sit down and listen. LYP does not provide a fair listening environment because its noisy, the acoustics are not the same as your room's/house'.

it may not be necessary, but youre already paying 25% of RM2k to get the 5500. if you can cough out 1.5k, the 300~400bucks is extremely worth it, if you have no need for the internal decoder. please keep in mind that the gigaworks does not have an LCD display nor a digital display for volume. its just bars

ive already told you, the 5500 sounds better, it uses better drivers and the bass is improved [i felt a sudden sense of irony when i said that ]. its sad that the shopkeepers do not know what theyre selling

if anything, those are the major differences, not the colour or the design or a new LCD panel...

it was launched 1year ago. new or not does not really matter, the z5300 are newer than the z650s, but the z560s sound better.

@Silon

Ohh thanks for your precious opinion..
Yeah i like the volume control pad..is awesome!!

Too bad i don have frens own a Such exp speakers.. *sob sob*
Anyway..Since Z5500 n Z680 doesn't have much huge difference..so i might wait n for the price of Z5500 drop or gigaworks S750 drop..

N for Z5450..i dont really like it..since is USD499.99 ..but only 315W compare to Z680 nor Z5500 at 500~505W.. so stick back to Z680~

Too bad Z680 lcd is not clear or sharp enough compare to Z5500..if i have change to test out the system..i tell u guys about it..

Thanks!

if sound control is so important to you, then youd most probably hate the gigaworks. the controls are just aweful. the control module's buttons are like a sub-RM400 system's, the remote uses infrared and you really really need to point at the module directly.

power isnt everything bro, if im not mistaken, the 5500 is more powerful than a 5.1 gigaworks system

hmmm that wont be quite necessary bro, the 5500 was trashed, squashed, mutilated and kicked in the @ss the last time a thread was made about it. if i remember correctly, it was just launched and someone very excited started the thread.

cheers

This post has been edited by Silon: Sep 14 2005, 08:30 PM

kianwee - its mcl or something like that lah .. Logitech's distributor here lor ..

Z- 5450 (630 rms watt) but still no tweeter for satelites .. sticking to my Z680 must wait untill the price drops to RM1199 then i buy ...

sori for the wrong watt .. the sub looks like creative lor ... logi logi lah, creative creative mah .... this model sound more trible kah ... woofer driver Drivers:
- Satellites: 2 1/2" aluminum phase plug driver
- Band-pass subwoofer: 6 1/2" high-excursion driver

merged by scotty

im oso a user of logitech z680 here...bought RM990 at lYP round 2 mths ago...the volume knob of the control pod is juz sux...sumtime when spinnin, it will either jump/not response...so most of the time i'll use the remote to control the volume...beside that im juz happy wif this system

@bdon16

U got it for rm 990...whaa ~~ good bargin mate.~~
Anyone know who much is Z5500 in malaysia? currently im stil at oz

OZ selling $699 for Z5500 = (approx) rm 2.1k sob sob..

ya the control pad sometimes got will auto jump 1~2 time of the volume~ but is normal dude~ dont worry..

I think Z5500 might have the same prob too~ now im waiting for sale hehe ..~~ logitech Z-3e selling rm 400 (after conversion) hehe

@Silon

haha yeah..i really dont like creative control mode..since im using logi control pad...IT looks soo high class!! hehe~ it likes having a mini home therther at your room~

i admit that power is not everything..too bad Z5450 haven launch in oz yet..if not i can touch n feel it ~

Juz wanna ask u guys... any one heard bout Logitech Z-5450??? when will it arrive in Malaysia??

Z-5500 is selling for $490 in most major computer retailers in OZ

mind to ask?...wat device is dat?

@Computer^freak

Which computer shop?
Harvey norman selling $699~ super exp..
not many retailer selling such an exp speakers...nor gigaworks..

Can u recommand any shop selling in bris?

@yingchai

OMG~~

Is logitech Z680 /Z5500 speakers with THX certifite. hehe~~

Malaysia is selling it for around RM1.5k-RM1.6k

Sexy speaker, too bad i spend all my dope on my graphics card, have to settle for the older model.

U sure Z5500 at rm 1.5~1.6k? what about Z680?

Act i read lots of review on logitech Z5500 n Z680..

Some user said that get a "Monster THX certified optical cable" for the Z5500 it works very very well.... Anyone try this setting using opitical cable? It seems Z5500 have much better sound clarity n less hiss compare to Z680...

While Z680 using RCA cable...im very confused...which one is better in terms of wire connection?

The Z5500 still uses the old pattern computer speaekrs cable...Whereas, the Z680 uses a hi-fi wiring connection? Any ways to improved the sound system in Z680? Or any better THX RCA cables for Z680?

Seems useless to replace another 90% same specifications in Z680 n Z5500...but i might consider if the price went down..

P/s" heard Z5500 selling rm 1300 in LYP??

Ohh yeah ..

N what is the purpose connecting a opitical wire to the Controller? Is there any ways to change all my RCA cable to Opitical? ( is a bit stupid Q..) but hope it can improve the sound system of this bad boyz!!!

Here the pic of "Monster THX certified optical cable"

i connect my dvd player's sound using a canare coxial, pc-speaker = analogue and optical .. BIG difference between analogue and optical ... but my sound card is cheapo Hercules DIGIFIRE . lor

emm...I have creative audigy2 Zs , does it work fine if i get a opitical cable connect to my Z680??

my housemate is using creative's card and gigaworks .. i notice that the system's analogue sound much better than the coaxial connection

huhuhuhuh....how long u been in OZ ???

Harvey Norman is only for ignorant rich bastards.

Use www.staticice.com.au ...type Z-5500

You will see some Brisbane shops are selling it for $449 .

hi there.. i knwo harbey norman earn 30~50% more on the products..

Yeah really rich bastards only shop there.. i go harvey norman n suvey the speakers set only..n check any latest hardware.

i been staying here about 2 and the half yrs..what about u?

THis shop iz cheap?

Thanks mate!

Result too limited in bris...lowest is $440...
Anyway...still trying to search for more review comparing Z500 n z680.

i think i can share some taughts,
first of, z80 does not use a single rca at all, only 5300 does,

680 uses screw cap to connects tha speakers and spring clip to connet to ta woofer, so for connection is pratically same as 5500, as long as its above 5300 range, its okay, just change to some decent audio cables to reduce noise and improve clarity(personal experience)

5500 IS selling about 15xx in lowyat, just check today, actually ta performance does improve alot to 680 if u do examine and listen properly, but casual listening does not really make up alot of different except for ta henfty price.

if u willing to spend on 1.5k pay Rm100 extra get a level entry home theatre set, performs much better and lots of inputs and settings,

as for ta Hiss u mention, i call it noise ratio, most high power system have em , but mostly unnotice from a far, but i do notice ...the better the response range the lesser noise ration there is....doesnt not know if its 100 true but just my taughts,

there are ways to reduces the noise try google, but for z680 rev 1.03 the noise tis terrible newer rev 1.12 is much much better....

optical cables doesnt help much if your sources produce low digital output, any optical cable will do, i doubt u using this speakers with 2k dvd player or HD player right.....

hopes this help u clear up ur doubts~~ by all means z-680 is very very value or money at the moment,

@Hwoarang45

Good review from u bro~

Im using my Z680 with my Laptop pair with Creative SB Zs pcmcia works very well~ Mostly i used to watch DVD's, music tat's all. I'v been trying Logitechs product since last yr...I got myself a X-620 (aus version), n tested it with my frens Z5300 n Z620 ..but Z5300 still the BEST tat time

SO i got myself a higher end logitech Z680..was damn happy tat time..too bad Z5500 is out of budget...but for now...i realised many ppl using Z5500 n z680 had obsolute replace by Z5500...

I cant really tell how big is the differences in terms of clarity n sound pump..compare to Z680 cant really test in the shop..

Since u said Z5500 price still range at rm1.5k~1.6...im not willing to spend such much money on slightly different specs on logitechs...but will consider for the price drop for Z5500 since less hiss (noise ratio) nad better performance on it.

Thanks anyway fren...

Hey all logi user,

mind i ask a q?

Do u guys plan to change your current speakers to Creative mega/gigaworks?
Creative gigaworks have sooo much big differences in Z5500/680?
Anyone knows what so special in gigaworks 7.1 compare to Z5500 (not the extra sets)

Thanks!

p/s: abit off topic..

sure, no prob

yes, i planned and i changed a few months ago.
havent heard the 5500 or 680 before, but from what the reviewers and forumers at klipsch say, the 5500/680 is no where near the gigaworks/promedia ultra [PMU].
the gigaworks and PMU both have tweeters, the 5500/680 uses a single driver for everything. thats not a bad thing, but it can never be as good as actual tweeters.
one thing is for sure: the 5500 doesnt not have the clarity nor the detail that both the gigaworks and PMU have.
also, the subs of the PMU and gigaworks go lower than the 5500. theyre more subtle. basshead or not, i believe the bass that the 5500/680/5300 provide is NOT bass, its just noise. good bass doesnt need to come in huge quantities, small and powerful ones are enough. the 10" driver in the 5500's bass although looks to be the most powerful of the 3 [5500, PMU, gigaworks], it cannot go as low and it is tuned to the upper frequencies, thus making lots of booom bannggg and never that deep tight punch.

youre always welcomed!

nah, this is becoming/or is a logitech fan thread already, i guess the mods wont mind
theyve just dumped all the logitech fans into one thread LOL

i hope by mentioning the K L I P S C H promedia ultra i did not inject more interest in K L I P S C H and did not recruit more worshipers of K L I P S C H

Haha thanks Silon very good review for me too

Fist of all will u regret on getting Creative product or the S700/s750?
So with build in tweeters have much better clarity compare to Z5500...did u really try both set of speakers? or is *just* a slightly clarity differents between them?

How's the sub for creative gigaworks? how big is the sub? 10" or 8" ?Iz as big as Z5500 sub (height & weight). I admit that logitech products have very heavy boomy pump..even though sometimes i cant even take it..i feel very dizzy while listening to *black eye peas-where is the love*

What about the creative gigaworks speakers *sets*? iz as big as Z5500? in terms of design n sound system? which sets u prefer? the logi Z5500 or s750? coz i need some information b4 i decide to upgrade either Z5500 or gigaworks s750 (exp speakers)

Too bad..creative doesn't have the LCD contral pod and the build in decoder if u 1 2 hook up to something else .. Dono y since i change to logitech product the only thing i really like is the control pod..looks very high class... ohh yeah silon if u free can u snap the pic of the volume control for me to c? thanks if u can

BTW...u have very good and exp multimedia speakers bro~ hehe

Thanks for everyting~~

This post has been edited by terencetoo: Sep 18 2005, 04:13 PM

no probs bro. just sharing the weeks and weeks of reading reviews and opinions before buying... i must say, i never bought a single item that cost so much before
-its even more than my graphics card or CPU!

no regrets. changed from z5300. no regrets whatsoever, but then again, i love my music very much. it might be different for someone else

the sub is very small [suprisingly], it is the size (and weight) of the z5300's sub. i presume its smaller than the z680's or the 5500s? the driver is an 8incher. though it aint as 'powerful' as the 5500's sub, it sure goes lower and tighter.

it should be as big if not bigger than the 5500s/680s satellites. as i said, i havent heard the 5500 before. i didnt even think of the 5500 because they were worse sounding than the gigaworks and to make matters worse, for only 300bucks, i could get 2 more satellites and a much better sounding system. i didnt even think of the 5500
but then again, thats just me. i dont really care about the control pod's looks and i dont have any use for its internal decoder....

if you really go around reading, you will find that the real battle is between the gigaworks and the PMU. the 5500 just trails behind them.

here is the pic:

im sorry about the pic quality, the irony being that i bought the gigaworks before a digicam

believe me, the controls are just plain sh!tty. the entire thing looks like a control module for a sub RM600 speaker system. the remote needs to be pointed at the module very accurately... the whole control is just plain shitty. im lucky i have audio controls on my keyboard

hello - one thing i think users of Logitech sets that are thinking of getting mega or gigaworks. Hmm i have the luxury of having z680 and gigaworks in one house (another housemate owns giga). If u are used to the multiple input of Z680 and Z5500, please be advice that the feature is NOT available in S750 (unless if u are willing to fork out another RM599 for the creative decoder DDTS-100 - as my housemate did) As u all probably already know, the Logitech Control Center for Z680 and Z5500 have FOUR inputs and a headphone output. One of the reason i bought Z680 was because - i connect my dvd player, my sony mini compo to the Control Center. i also pc connect my PC analoguely and digitally to the Contro Center therefore .. the four inputs are totally used .. i think that is why silon said that for RM999... Z680 IS VERY VALUE FOR MONEY... i totally agree. BUT THEN I GOT MINE FOR RM1430 .. DAMNNNNN shud have wait another two years ..

silon - just for clarification - i said that z630's woofer is smaller than Z680 and Z5500 and not S750? because i just checked, S750's sub is bigger than Z680.

BTW - but then if u only use a single input on our logitech ... and want better sound ,,, go for S750 or PMU. Want think i don't like about S750's is that (maybe its because of my housemate's treble config) .. the treble is SOOO loud that sometimes my ears hurt during car explosions scenes for example.

here is how S750 inside of the sub look like .... ( and i did not secretly open my housemate's sub and took photos )

Ohh silon what a fast replied~

Make my day intresting~ after long hours work *sob sob*
So i can made a conclusion tat every speakers have their own pros n cons~

Such as creative gigaworks have good sound n extra satellites but creative engineers never try to implement a digital pod for controller

Wheras for logitech...have big sub n boomy bass speciality for games i think but sound wise..i think cant perform well compare to gigaorks [since gigaworks is the most exp one]

Act i dont really need a 10" sub...dont really dare to BLAST at home nor back my hometown~ too bad price tag for creative gigaworks..cost a lot more then Z5500~ haha [u really lucky guy bro~hope u really enjoy yor gigaworks]

Thanks for the pic too~ the device look plain...yeah is really plain compare to mine z680...but overall...still is *Gigaworks*

Ohh yeah...does the satellites of all Gigaworks produce equal sound quality nor surround? Can gigaworks switch the multichannel mode effect?

eg:
=7 channel direct
=Stereo
=PL2 music
=Pl2 movie and more from the controller?

Thanks!

g5sim, please edit your previous post and not start a new one, it's damn annoying reading multiple post.

correction - One thing i don't like about S750's is that (maybe its because of my housemate's treble config) .. the treble is SOOO loud that sometimes my ears hurt during car explosions scenes for example.

sorry i can't edit my own post .. something is wrong with my windows .. that is why u see multiple post. will join them once i reached the office tomorrow .. sorry again .. pai seh

more pics here http://www.ixbt.com/multimedia/creative-gigaworks750.shtml

well i have to agreed, logitech's bass is loud ,but dont have tat long throw woofer 's solid feel, tat ooohmmp, as u might say...
but its very decent enough for the price man, we have to agreed price VS performance it all come to value of the product,

i choose (i think mostly also) logitechs speakers mainly on the value of the speakers,

if i want performance i frankly wont choose creative, nor logitech, i move to ta next level, proper home theatre amps and speakers, ANY brand also can beat ta heck out of any pc speakers any hour or time loh~~

so buddy , i have to think for ur self loh, wat u buy the speakers for? no point comparing cause all speakers HAVE limitation, nothing is perfect.

so by buying pc speakers of course u are on budget right, so....
if u want music ,clearity feel, get ones with proper driver like creative or klipsh,

on the other hand, if u want bass and conectivities like optical, spdif, coaxial, get logitech loh....

regards, good luck on ur choice....

oh. did i say that? i must admit, my memory aint that great, but for what its worth, i dont remember saying that

bro, im confused. what are you trying to say?

hmmmm the s750's sub is bigger than the z680? youre absolutely sure about that? it looks smaller than my z5300's sub

this sounds interesting. please can you go check the settings? id really like to know

LOL

you dont really have to buy the gigaworks to blast all your neighbours to hell man [hmmm its nice to know i can ]. you can buy the gigaworks purely to enjoy its sweetness... when im done with my exams, im gonna use my 7.1 edge in HL2 online
oh yes, im really enjoying them. i use them at least 6days in a week

yea, all 7 sats are exactly the same. i once damaged one of the tweeters, but i wasnt very worried, i could change it to the other 5 locations [dont ask me why, and yes, i almost felt like crying]. i dont know about those stuff, i dont use them, i just enable CMSS2.0 when i game and disable it when im done

id like to share one of my most memorable moments with the gigaworks: when i loaded HL2 Online and started to shoot, i felt as if there was no bass whatsoever, kinda dissapointed but then i heard the detonation... OMG it was a punch to the heart. dissapointed no more! then, when i started to fire with the machine gun and moved forward, i could actually hear the bullet shells dropping to the floor and the sound fading away to the rear as i walked forward. that was one hell of a moment

thanks. was about to ask you already. for a moment i thought you were a star collector

so youre basically saying that all of us [the people who bought and are planning to buy the gigaworks and the PMU] are just fools?

i dont know if this is true, but it is to my belief that HT Systems are tuned for bass and effects, not *that* suitable for music.

PC speakers? any brand can beat them? the gigaworks and megaworks were built by the engineers from cambridge soundworks. C.soundworks was started by a person [the late henry kloss if im not mistaken] who was very much involded in hifis. the PMU were from Klipsch. they make hifis all the way down to pc speakers. i dont think theyre 'easy' to beat

haha good site bro...im going to read it!!

so many good brands now..Klipsch, creative,logi...no altec lancing haha~??

@silon
Im so sad for your tweeter man...what a accident..

not to be sarcastic here, i didnt know i step on your toes boy, sorry loh, i did know u were feeling like a fool for buying pc range speakers . i didnt even try to state or indicate that.... i'm feel u man,,, i'm simpatise u too~

first of i'm just helping ta dude to choose wat speakers to buy, not insulting u nor making u feels like a fool for buying pc range speakers.....,which i have some doubts now,

just because u think chambridge certified soundworks means absolute perfect for every range of usage dude, its just merely marketing tactics boy, i'm sorry u cant afford to experience proper home theatre sound stage, but tat does mean pc range are bad, man, i just means there are no perfect speakers around boy, its more to personal taste on how u match the built to your listening prefferences....

and klipsh are good no doubt , erm but maybe u and i are on a different level of audiophiles, but thier pc range totally sucks, why would someone built a 5.1 pc range without giving analog 5.1 in? well i believe they sound sweeter than 680 but dont u feel its a very ametuer approches to pc range market by not giving better connectivity?? as for logitech its is powerful in bass but lack multiple driver to makes a more dynamic sound than kilpsh, but its cheap kay....

so like i said nothing is perfect , like u for example, u might not be in ta big league but that doesnt make u a noob, i repect u share ur opinion but peace lah dude, i did say u a noob or an idiot...wats with the fury?

everyone here is just trying to help ta chap to make better choices in buying speakers he dont have much chance to test,
so .........cool boy....

This post has been edited by Hwoarang45: Sep 18 2005, 07:11 PM

Ohh...dont angry la fren....cool down~ hehe:P

Creative or logi both also good speakers la~

Yeah i dont have much chance to test the speakers nor look at creative gigaworks here (Aus) only can upgrade to Z5500 tats all..but no point on wasting money just some improvement while the bass still soo boomy~ haha

Maybe end of the yr creative gigaworks/ Z5500 the price will drop..then i might consider more tat time...i'll be back for holiday end of the yr

yup yup. i totally agreed on your taughts man, 680 was Rm14xx here last time, but now only Rm9xx, maybe sooner will 5500 also becomes cheaper hahaa....

oh u are in AUS? oooh so even, cari ausie dollar so nice....