i owned a z5300 and if what they say is true, all logitech systems share the bloody noisy bass. i cant imagine you even thinking of adding more bass!

anyway, the 'THX Certified' multimedia speakers are just pure nonsense. it means nothing

edit: i forgot to tell you, you basically paid logitech who paid Lucasarts for the cert. the multimedia THX cert is a waste of money too, though we cant choose wheter to have it or not


edited to be more specific towards THX mutimedia.

This post has been edited by Silon: Sep 8 2005, 01:25 AM

yes, ive typed it correctly. logitech's latest project are a 5.1 set with wireless rear speakers, apart from what im reading here [I KNOW I KNOW, people say they're not trustworthy], there isnt much information on the net either. logitech has yet to officially announce it. it should retail at a recommended price of 500USD. im curious wheter its a completely new system or just another modified and face lifted z5500.

that was not what i meant. i feel that i should explain, but i think i should keep my thoughts to myself

i see 'young' people [that are older than me] driving around in their cars with the bass so loud i can hear them inside my car, boom boom boom boom. i can feel the beats going through my heart. i wonder what the hell theyre listening to. whats the point, thats not music, its just noise. we dont live in the stoneage, we can differentiate and appreciate a good voice, instruments and and 'music'. we didnt go through 5000 years of civilisation just to listen to mono beats.

This post has been edited by Silon: Sep 8 2005, 02:25 PM

are theyre appreciating good bass or are they just chasing a flawed illusion of 'power' from speakers? highly distorted and overly boomy bass with no substance?

we all have our preferences, i guess thats what makes us different from one another.

yes, thats precisely my point. the ultimate goal of a speaker is to reproduce sound as realistically and as closely to the original as possible. we didnt advance so many years to listen to the beatings of low frequencies.

wow, youre neighbours called the police?! hmmmm you must have really annoyed them

so a HT system's bass settings should always be pushed to the maximum?

i guess in addition to a massive blow of low frequency sounds, there is also medium to high frequency sounds.

i guess here is where we find the difference between systems designed more for HTs and cinemas and systems designed more for audio. in an enclosed environment, recordings can be recorded closer to a point of perfection [if there is any ] and thus, an excellent set of speakers would be able to reproduce sound very closely to the original. if youre watching a movie, it'd be harder to capture the sounds of those horses' footsteps thumping on the ground around you [ala LOTR ], right?

in terms of music, im fine if the purpose of adding more bass is to reach a personal preference but i dont see how putting the bass to the maximum settings would be logical. music just werent intended to be listened to this way.

lets say if the recorded sound of the thunder you mentioned is perfect, no flaws whatsoever, just exactly like the original, a good set of speakers [wheter designed for HTs or audio] should be able to give you the same sense of power, right?

[at this point, id suspect the HT/cinema system being a culprit because theyre tuned to give an 'extra' boost in bass, correct me if im wrong... ]

id enjoy a speaker that can go really low and produce super tight notes at moderate and medium bass levels, not pushed to the maximum, distorted or not. an overwhelming amount of bass [just like an overwhelming amount of highs and lows] would jsut spoil the rest of the song, right?

apparently not

yeap. frankly, i dont see how a single wire to the sub can be such a hard thing. doesnt power wires just cause the same problems?

i recommend a Gigaworks [as a fanboy, as an owner and as a person who has read comparisons between it and the 5500 ]. no other recommendations on the 5500 except if you need its internal decoder.

ah, so its officially out
well, they dont look like much, and theyre suggested to retail at 500USD. my ar$e. ill get a gigaworks again and again anyday

the 5500 has improved clarity and improved bass. improvements everywhere. while i will not be able to say wheter its 'worth' upgrading -because this is a very personal opinion-, logic would dictate it is not

the gigaworks is just a couple of hundred bucks more. save a longer time lar

you should go and do a comparison between the 5500 and your own songs. if you have a friend who has a 5500, bring along your soundcard and your songs, sit down and listen. LYP does not provide a fair listening environment because its noisy, the acoustics are not the same as your room's/house'.

it may not be necessary, but youre already paying 25% of RM2k to get the 5500. if you can cough out 1.5k, the 300~400bucks is extremely worth it, if you have no need for the internal decoder. please keep in mind that the gigaworks does not have an LCD display nor a digital display for volume. its just bars

ive already told you, the 5500 sounds better, it uses better drivers and the bass is improved [i felt a sudden sense of irony when i said that ]. its sad that the shopkeepers do not know what theyre selling

if anything, those are the major differences, not the colour or the design or a new LCD panel...

it was launched 1year ago. new or not does not really matter, the z5300 are newer than the z650s, but the z560s sound better.

if sound control is so important to you, then youd most probably hate the gigaworks. the controls are just aweful. the control module's buttons are like a sub-RM400 system's, the remote uses infrared and you really really need to point at the module directly.

power isnt everything bro, if im not mistaken, the 5500 is more powerful than a 5.1 gigaworks system

hmmm that wont be quite necessary bro, the 5500 was trashed, squashed, mutilated and kicked in the @ss the last time a thread was made about it. if i remember correctly, it was just launched and someone very excited started the thread.

cheers

This post has been edited by Silon: Sep 14 2005, 08:30 PM

sure, no prob

yes, i planned and i changed a few months ago.
havent heard the 5500 or 680 before, but from what the reviewers and forumers at klipsch say, the 5500/680 is no where near the gigaworks/promedia ultra [PMU].
the gigaworks and PMU both have tweeters, the 5500/680 uses a single driver for everything. thats not a bad thing, but it can never be as good as actual tweeters.
one thing is for sure: the 5500 doesnt not have the clarity nor the detail that both the gigaworks and PMU have.
also, the subs of the PMU and gigaworks go lower than the 5500. theyre more subtle. basshead or not, i believe the bass that the 5500/680/5300 provide is NOT bass, its just noise. good bass doesnt need to come in huge quantities, small and powerful ones are enough. the 10" driver in the 5500's bass although looks to be the most powerful of the 3 [5500, PMU, gigaworks], it cannot go as low and it is tuned to the upper frequencies, thus making lots of booom bannggg and never that deep tight punch.

youre always welcomed!

nah, this is becoming/or is a logitech fan thread already, i guess the mods wont mind
theyve just dumped all the logitech fans into one thread LOL

i hope by mentioning the K L I P S C H promedia ultra i did not inject more interest in K L I P S C H and did not recruit more worshipers of K L I P S C H

no probs bro. just sharing the weeks and weeks of reading reviews and opinions before buying... i must say, i never bought a single item that cost so much before
-its even more than my graphics card or CPU!

no regrets. changed from z5300. no regrets whatsoever, but then again, i love my music very much. it might be different for someone else

the sub is very small [suprisingly], it is the size (and weight) of the z5300's sub. i presume its smaller than the z680's or the 5500s? the driver is an 8incher. though it aint as 'powerful' as the 5500's sub, it sure goes lower and tighter.

it should be as big if not bigger than the 5500s/680s satellites. as i said, i havent heard the 5500 before. i didnt even think of the 5500 because they were worse sounding than the gigaworks and to make matters worse, for only 300bucks, i could get 2 more satellites and a much better sounding system. i didnt even think of the 5500
but then again, thats just me. i dont really care about the control pod's looks and i dont have any use for its internal decoder....

if you really go around reading, you will find that the real battle is between the gigaworks and the PMU. the 5500 just trails behind them.

here is the pic:

im sorry about the pic quality, the irony being that i bought the gigaworks before a digicam

believe me, the controls are just plain sh!tty. the entire thing looks like a control module for a sub RM600 speaker system. the remote needs to be pointed at the module very accurately... the whole control is just plain shitty. im lucky i have audio controls on my keyboard

oh. did i say that? i must admit, my memory aint that great, but for what its worth, i dont remember saying that

bro, im confused. what are you trying to say?

hmmmm the s750's sub is bigger than the z680? youre absolutely sure about that? it looks smaller than my z5300's sub

this sounds interesting. please can you go check the settings? id really like to know

LOL

you dont really have to buy the gigaworks to blast all your neighbours to hell man [hmmm its nice to know i can ]. you can buy the gigaworks purely to enjoy its sweetness... when im done with my exams, im gonna use my 7.1 edge in HL2 online
oh yes, im really enjoying them. i use them at least 6days in a week

yea, all 7 sats are exactly the same. i once damaged one of the tweeters, but i wasnt very worried, i could change it to the other 5 locations [dont ask me why, and yes, i almost felt like crying]. i dont know about those stuff, i dont use them, i just enable CMSS2.0 when i game and disable it when im done

id like to share one of my most memorable moments with the gigaworks: when i loaded HL2 Online and started to shoot, i felt as if there was no bass whatsoever, kinda dissapointed but then i heard the detonation... OMG it was a punch to the heart. dissapointed no more! then, when i started to fire with the machine gun and moved forward, i could actually hear the bullet shells dropping to the floor and the sound fading away to the rear as i walked forward. that was one hell of a moment

thanks. was about to ask you already. for a moment i thought you were a star collector

so youre basically saying that all of us [the people who bought and are planning to buy the gigaworks and the PMU] are just fools?

i dont know if this is true, but it is to my belief that HT Systems are tuned for bass and effects, not *that* suitable for music.

PC speakers? any brand can beat them? the gigaworks and megaworks were built by the engineers from cambridge soundworks. C.soundworks was started by a person [the late henry kloss if im not mistaken] who was very much involded in hifis. the PMU were from Klipsch. they make hifis all the way down to pc speakers. i dont think theyre 'easy' to beat

altec have been sleeeping for the past few years... dunno what happened to them

oh... i sounded angry? then im sorry, i never meant for it to be that way. i thought the multiple smileys were enough to indicate my tone?

nop. i didnt say that cambridge certify stuff are perfecto, and you dont have to be sorry for me, i dont have much interest in surround sound and stuff, once in a while yes, but not all the time. im more into listening to music and for that, the gigaworks does the job nicely for me

the klipsch speakers youre talking about it, the GMX series?

once again, like i said, im cool about this, it was a misunderstanding. you got my tone all wrong. ill try to include even MORE smileys next the time

awwww now thats really sweet man. my mommy hugs and kisses me 10 times a day since i was born, i think ive enough attention thank you

in fact if anything, i too am contributing my *thoughts* [hmmm my weak mind in its n00bish state was able to spell that correctly] and opinion on this matter. everyone has their own opinion, if this wasnt the case forums wont exist. if you agree that multimedia speakers above rm1000 are not worth buying at all, then thats your opinion, im fine with it. but Hwoarang45 and others who think alike ought to see what other people think of this, i was merely trying to do so. this is, a place to share *thoughts* and opinions. you seem just as unwilling to open your mind to opinions as youre accusing me of.

nah, the GMX aint that great. they were designed for consoles [thus the digital connections and the pie shaped control module meant to be put on the floor or something]. the prices of klipsch speakers are all inflated here in malaysia. the GMX 5.1 should be selling for less than a grand [its currently selling for 1~1.3k] while the PMU should be around the gigawork's price, but its over rm2k.

okok
height? well, dont count the four legs bro

what the hell did ya guys do? either that or the power in your place is screwed up

the prices are all inflated... dunno why... im guessing its because theres only one distro and klipsch doesnt have a really dedicated distribution system here...

LOL

yeap. you can place a sattelite [use the gigaworks sat ] and take a pic, then we can have a good idea how big those subs are

hmmm i just measured the gigawork's sub, its a 1ft x 1ft x 1ft cube. the sat is 11.5cm x 16cm x 13cm [width, height and depth].

terencetoo, maybe you can do the measuring now and compare the figures