I suppose that's why there are more and more non-dealing, non-solicitation and non-competition clauses in employment contracts nowadays.

hoo petronas suffering ka, never knew them that deep but i did hearback then when i was at uni the engineers there say almost daily some pak arab in jubah pry's away the staff at klcc ...well i hope you can mentor me too one day . how is saudi btw in haj season.

This post has been edited by mhyug: Oct 10 2011, 02:28 AM

Hi all sifus...wanna ask is kencana HL a good place to start my career n o&g industries??? was offered assistant planning engineer on contract basis

Suffering woooo .... the most important thing you need in the Oil & Gas industry is the ability to make decision. This ability comes with experience. Without it, you end up delaying the process which costs money which leads to opportunity lost and what not.

When you have guys that has no seniors to tell them the ropes and all you have is a supposedly structured training for the last 5 years, you end up with people not sure if their technical analysis is correct, you end up with managers not being able to make the necessary decision because they themselves don't trust their subordinates recommendation. Ends up with the process being repeated 3-4 times before they make a decision. Before I left the company I went down to see a friend in Carigali, he had 5 young engineers around the table and everyone had no blood in their face ... I was wondering why, strewn across the table was the log interpretations, some maps and the drilling supervisor on the speaker phone ...

DS: Are we on target? We have reached the recommended depth .... should we perforate? The guns are ready ...

Team: Ermm .... ermmmm .... (everyone looking at one another)

Me: What the heck is going on ... is that the rig?

Team: Yes .... the wanted to perf now ...

Me: So what's the problem? Looked at the logs, confirmed the depth with DS, told my friend that based on my technical judgement, they are at the right depth and said that it will cost USD150K a day for the rig cost if you delay the decision ...

Team: Proceed with perf .... (by the way it cost around USD1 million for the perf ) ...

That's why they were shitting in their pants .... but delaying the decision would have been a lot worse (an you still have to perf no matter what)

Turns out the decision was good .... well flowed 1500 barrels of sweet crude a day ...

Nowadays, I hear managers complaining every day that their subordinates really need some guidance ...

This is what happens when you pay peanuts .... you get monkeys.

why not going back to petronas? upon ur Ex GM request?

dude... its all about the $$$$$$... its all about the dum dum dududum dum

Not the time yet lah. The kids are small, they are enjoying the international school here. I get to spend a lot of quality time with them. Once they go to college, then I'll most likely return.

ur employer pays for ur kids school's fees? wow! i got it then.....

Yes they do. They will pay up to RM120K per year per child ....

A few of my friends working as Terminal operator being recruited by Rasgas@Qatargas. And they are with 2+ years experience.
This is the first time I heard of such requirement. and of course their pay is less and they have to work 4days on/off not like the previous recruits.

Salam,

Interesting view azraeli. I believe being an engineer will surely put u in a position to make tough decision. But, do u reckon that it happened among young engineers because lack of knowledge or merely lack of confidence?

P/s: I've been following this informative forum for a long time and it's about time for me to join the discussion prior to my graduation. I'll graduate in May 2012 with Bsc. in PE. Please show me some guidance dear O&G seniors.

It's both actually. Confidence and the ability to make decision comes with experience. If you have spent 5 years doing nothing but attending training, you're not going to get the experience. When you have experienced personnel in your organization, they act as mentors to these juniors. You do not need to attend training to get the knowledge from these seniors, the interaction in the team working environment is how you can implement institutional capability development in the company (ohh dear, I sound like those Boston Consulting or McKinsey consultants during one of the task force meeting). But I strongly believe that having experienced personnel is key ... if you're a junior, you will gain confidence since you can easily asks the seniors if what you're doing is correct, the process and the path to make decision is correct. The seniors can point out that some of the process maybe redundant and can be shortened or some of the process is required and cannot be avoided. Within a 1 hour discussion, the juniors can get all the necessary do's and don't from the seniors and after 2-3 years, they themselves will know from their interaction and seeing the success that comes with the decision based on the discussion with the seniors, how things are run .. these successes will inculcate the confidence and the ability to make faster and correct decisions in the future.

Yes, training helps but in order to make the juniors understand the where the information from the training is applied, you will need on-site mentoring.

1 very reputable company who does not have o&g experience takes over a o&g company in year 2007. old timers with experience were laid off or some resigned. employ fresh grads or new hired without o&g experience. then the operations become haywire. the top management realized the mistakes and decided to re-hire or take experience people to guide the new people.

This post has been edited by ch_teo: Oct 10 2011, 07:03 PM

Hi all, out of topic for a sec. Does anyone know where else to apply for engineering related post in kerteh/kemaman? I've been sending my cv around KSB for years,apply vacant position online,but there is no answer. It has been 2 years now,and I'm in need of a job. Too long waiting for luck.. ~sigh~

just give it a try as what the other person said.. good luck.. =)

yup i am working there..

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Added on October 10, 2011, 9:25 pmgood luck mate..

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Added on October 10, 2011, 9:26 pmoops sorry then.. one of the managers told me 3.5, maybe thats y.. they recruited two freshie into subsea department. they muct be damn smart..

This post has been edited by skinnydude: Oct 10 2011, 09:26 PM

Hi All Seniors here,

Anyone know the jobscope and salary for SLB Maintanence engineer in Malaysia?

I appreciate ur reply and completely agree with what u said. Experience definitely a great tool to measure one's ability to make important decision, apart from basic knowledge. Since I haven't got any working experience in Malaysia yet, can u comment on the 'mentoring' culture in O&G industry in Malaysia and how does it help u developed to be a better engineer u are today? and having working both in Malaysia and overseas, how does this 'mentoring' mentality differs?

This post has been edited by kyser645: Oct 10 2011, 11:54 PM

hua...now thats big.well lets hope us fresh/semi fresh ones gets the opportunity somewhere to start and from there on build the knowledge and experience and who knows one day return back to the mother ship to help

last few days every day i pass by the technip office...rasa mcm nak serbu masuk and ask why la none of my application successful

Mhyug,

What positions have you applied?

Overseas especially in the middle east, you are "expected" to mentor the locals but the problem here is, the locals refused to be mentored. They graduate and expect to be the team leaders/managers so their attitude coming out from university is screwed up. In Malaysia, I see the juniors eagerly asking questions, guidance etc and I pity them actually when I know that there's none going around since a lot of experienced personnel have left the country/organization.