various, any job opening needing a mechanical engineer i applied it also the opening being in malaysia(i dont think they would consider me for their offices/plant/work site out of malaysia)(but also noting the experience field, x dak la i blindly apply for manager or senior positions )

if there is even internship opening oso i want to apply but jobstreet web doesnt allow.what im looking now is a platform to start.im also saving up a bit so that come dec i can take a twi+bosiet course to at least give a small mini boost.

This post has been edited by mhyug: Oct 11 2011, 07:18 PM

I got bunch of friends from Middle East (saudis, uae, qatar etc) and having worked with them in a team, I can understand how bad they are in listening to instruction. Azraeil, you keep mentioning about the amount of local talents in oil and gas industry pursuing their career abroad. Is it so much worse than what many think?

cash is King and very cocky, they are the paymaster, so just be tolerate.
one day, karma will come.

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Added on October 11, 2011, 8:31 amtry from these type companies' (technip) sub-cons & apply appropriate positions.

This post has been edited by ch_teo: Oct 11 2011, 08:31 AM

Just like me..even tried applying for internship.

Need some advice guys..(positive energy and mhyug already know this )

I have received an offer with Tokuyama, in Bintulu. Semicon industry. 8 months training in japan next january. 5 years bond. Salary 2k + 100/day allowance (if I'm not mistaken). Haven't discuss yet on the job scope, increments and other benefits. If I go for this, it is going to be my first job. I have always wanted it to be O&G sector, just like my late father and my two brothers. Be the first engineer in the family, as the other only worked as ship crew and technician. If I receive this offer, then it's going to be a 5 years bond. It wouldn't be wise to turn back to O&G after 5 years, right? 5 years experience in O&G already enough to get a way better job.

I am trying not to be picky. But I really wanna make a living out of something I love doing. But I can't stay jobless anymore.......

This post has been edited by preakzz: Oct 11 2011, 11:20 AM

If it is me,I would give it another few months to try,anyway the term of this company is way too one sided.5 Years bond with an allowance of 100/day for the training,it is bad unless they give 100usd/day,well that's another story.But the final decision is your's truly,and don't give up hope on SLB yet ok,they might have other position for you,try to call up the recruiter.

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Added on October 11, 2011, 11:31 amJobscope,i don't know much ,but i think it has something to do with improving the whole process for maintenance.Salary is the same as FE,just that you don't get the offshore allowance since you are not going offshore anyway.


This post has been edited by backspace66: Oct 11 2011, 11:31 AM

Slb....How I hope they know how much I want the job...
Yea, the 5 years bond makes me scared. Its like closing the door for O&G.


Yep, maintenance engineer don't go to offshore. That's why somebody lucky switched from that to FE after his FEP. Caused some argument inside.

There are several reasons why people leave. Supply and demand in the first place (so there is a pull factor) where the salary on the side is insanely high not to mentioned that they cover the education for your children (let's not get started on the state of our education system). There's the push factor as well, when I was in Petronas, the salary was pathetic. I was one of the first person in Petronas building a 3D geological model (heck even the book published by Petronas, the Petroleum Geology of Malaysia has my model as the front cover) but I have no savings, 2 small kids and an HR that refuses to accept the fact that they were paying peanuts while paying 10 times the amount for expats who does nothing but TALK. They keep saying that our salary was on-par with TNB, Telekom etc (funny how they don't compare even with ExxonMobil Malaysia). After a while, people got sick for being taken for granted by the company. In 1998, it was unheard of if Petronas people leaves for a contractor or operators, by 2005, it was a flood (me included). I remembered one HR GM sayign that if one leaves, there are 10 people who can replace him/her. When I left, they had to hire 3 expats to do what I was doing .... clever company don't you think.

Now, as mentioned by some other posters, Petronas has realised their folly (penny wise, pound stupid foolish) and they have change the remuneration scheme. Tier 1 personnel (Geology/Reservoir Engineers/Drilling Engineers) are on a different remuneration scale (just like what I recommended in the Corporate Strategic Study which was tossed by the then CEO) and they are doing much better, I'm told that some 7-10 years experience people are still leaving the company and that's mostly due to the push factor I guess (slave driver of a boss etc etc)

Anyway, I cherished my time in Petronas, it was a place where I was able to networked and gain tremendous amount of experience which allowed me in the end to get the job that I am doing now.

5 years bond is almost no turning back to o&g. chances are very very very slim after 5 years. jap factory just be more cautious, paying that certain scale with expecting lot lot lot hardworks. maybe got morning exercise before start work, punctuality is a mandatory with discipline penalty, etc...

suggested u take some part time jobs just to cover your daily expenses if really need to. or job that during probation with period notice 24 hours or 2 weeks or 4 weeks if by chances you happen to find one. full swing looking for o&g jobs.
btw, semi-con (electrical/electronics industry) is 1 of the hardest hit when every 10-year econ down-cycle coming with vss or down-sizing. o&g is mostly those contract type the 1st to go, depends on e&p decision from the top management/stakeholders of the operators.

my 1st job as mech engineer/site inspector consultant in construction 2 months notice period was a "killer" during pre-interview phone conversation/ during interview stage.
was 3 years as consultant in construction before jump ship to o&g. applying more than 1000 applications by e-mail/hardcopy/website since before getting my last trimester result from uni.
my target is o&g, construction, heavy industry. factory is not in my list, had my industrial training in semi-con factory in kedah, every day in the production floor with SPC charts, some lab measuring tasks with instruments, segregation of electronics components by category and occasionally assisting seniors tech in maintenance works of machines.

This post has been edited by ch_teo: Oct 11 2011, 01:03 PM

how is petronas performance fared among all operators? is it a good company to stay for long period?

In terms of revenue? In terms of Profit? Very difficult to compare. I seriously would have stayed (and probably be a GM by now) if they have made the changes in 2005 instead of 2010. In my personal opinion, it's a good place to work.

In terms of working culture, efficiency of employee. I had heard that petronas employee is not that efficient compared to other operator employee. I am wondering whether it is true.

Thanks for ur insightful view bro. What u did back then was the best decision u can possibly made. I bet it was a big decision at time when the big operator company like saudi aramco came knocking on ur door. I would do exactly the same, why wouldn't I? At the end of the day if u happy with ur choice, its all that matters.

I heard some say that it is better to start ur career with an operator company rather than service company. The reason is its hard for service company personnel to jump into operator company due to difference in work ethic. I know it might not be necessarily the case, but how true is that?

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Added on October 11, 2011, 3:24 pm[quote=ch_teo,Oct 10 2011, 06:27 PM]
cash is King and very cocky, they are the paymaster, so just be tolerate.
one day, karma will come.

Exactly, right? I know that it is not a fair judgement to say that money is everything but in this case, it certainly is. With great money comes great power. lol

This post has been edited by kyser645: Oct 11 2011, 03:24 PM

Some people say that it is better to start with the service companies while some say it is better t start in an Operator. I really can't give you any advice on that (since I've never been in a service company) other than my belief that if you are in an operator's company, you will be in an Asset team where you will be working with people from the entire scope of the field life. If you are a geologist, you will be working with the petrophysicist, reservoir engineers, drilling engineers, facilities engineers etc and you get to know why your work is needed, where your data is being used and you can also know what other people are doing, why it is important for you to understand what they are doing etc. I believe it gives a holistic approach to the entire O&G operation. In service companies, you will be focused on getting your project in your area of interest and you won't be exposed to the other parts of the filed life (sorry if this is a misconception on my part).

Thank You Guru Azraeil for your insightful opinions, it sure did expand my views on the entire OnG operator company in upstream operations.

I've been working in service company (early days), operator (not so long ago) and consultant company (current) (shit, I just realized that!). My take is in service company you are not going to know much besides your work discipline. Your work is only a portion of the entire project.
Operators give you a better understanding on how the entire unit works. You get to know more besides your discipline (drilling RE, pp, etc). My experience with operator, sometimes its a bit laid back/got nothing much to do. But its really a good platform for you to understand and learn ONG world much better.
Consultancy, its similar to operators, but its way hectic. Works need to be in high quality and in shorter time frame (most of the time). Most of the time you have two party to satisfy, your client (operators) and PMU. I also found out that I engage more with RE, pp, ptech, etc. compared to when I was in operator. Good thing about consultancy is you learn how to defend your own work (meaning that you have to make sure your work is up to standard), how to give a convincing presentation and how to manage your work.
Which one is better to start with, i dont know. But Im glad that i joined operator in my early days. I learn all about ONG and subsurface and drilling etc. I have a proper and structured training. And once I have a bit of confidence, I join consultant to sharpen my skills and increase my knowledge.

Thank you bros. I will definitely keep that in mind. Personally I am more keen to work with operator company, regardless of how much money they pay. Currently I am seeking for full time job prior to my graduation in May 2012. I know some people might think I still got plenty of time before my graduation, but I think it is important for me to start seeking now rather than later. With bunch of my friends here already got their employment in line, I would love to secure an offer or two back in Malaysia.

thx for the tip bro, will try and dig as many of them and "bombard" their emails

hoo they sending u to japan.....thats big ...anyway what is the allowance 100 a day mean??does it mean end of the month you get the 2k+25days*100=total salary?



This post has been edited by mhyug: Oct 11 2011, 06:44 PM

All sifus..i rejected the position as assistant planning engineer to accept other job in palm oil infustry due to the job scope. But then i receive an offer from my x supervisor( intern) as production engineer(full time) in kencana hl. Im really undecided now. Hope any senior here can help

somebody says that to improve your employable value is by applying through certificates

so i've been wondering is there any opening that i could apply e.g cswip, NDT, FEA etc

huhuhu..so ur gonna work in their new plant in similajau area huh?
is it O&G something u love doing? how if tokuyama pays u handsomely? would u leave it for o&g job?