So, have you already test drive both "showroom" unit yet? I bet you didn't, right? So don't just simply say which one is better while you haven't even touch the car body yet. Please put your statement with facts if not for me it just all "tahi kerbau"...

This post has been edited by Adin: Nov 18 2010, 10:37 AM

agree. infact, the cousin of forte, i30 handles even better with its independant multi link, but, oddly enough there is not much hype here in msia. the kia ceed which the i30 shares the platform got praises from TG for it's excellent handling. i know the i30 here is using an older generation engine (not the theta, should be either gamma or beta), but mechanically & interior material wise, it is a much upmarket vehicle.

Forte handling sucks. 4 speed gearbox no fun to drive.

Driven Forte 2.0 / Civic 2.0 / Altis 2.0 / Mazda 3 2.0

Still thinks forte handling sucks. Those are facts.

Its up to the buyer, you want to say your car is the best. Thats fine.

I personally love the civic, I bought it, it got stolen 2 months ago.

So you may think I am biased against the civic, but honestly.

If price wasnt a factor, there are many cars you can choose but for 90k the forte is 2.0 none the less.

This post has been edited by omnimech: Nov 18 2010, 10:43 AM

dude, the lancer GT 2.0 engine is being whacked too...
for a mivec 2 liter, its low to mid end is quite disappointing...
all u need to do is just open your eyes bigger...

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i am actually quite inclined to reply to this as it will just lead on to my forte handling is better then established players

not so sure if they should bash the lancer for its engine. when i drove it, i felt the combi of engine & cvt is wrong. similarly, the forte with its engine & 4-speeder is wrong. so finally, i manage to sit inside the Sonata, that finally has a combi that makes more sense. the same engine family, mated with a 6-speeder. i could swear if the sonata was lighter (down to the forte/lancer weight) the experiance would be very spirited drive. but sadly, the sonata needs at least a 2.4 so i am left with only speculations on what is the best combi for the gema engine,

Personally I have to agree a little bit. Sucks wouldn't be the right word to classify it, just that the suspension is a little wobbly as compared to the Civic (yes I have driven both cars before). Upside to that, the Forte is a lot more comfortable to drive and I love the gadgets on it while the Civic is lacking in a lot of gadgets. But after my friend brought his Forte to get it done with Autofoam, the handling improved and the drive improved in terms of comfort and quietness. Totally awesome!

Have to agree, but the lancer is pretty alright on acceleration, definitely better than the forte.

I personally dislike cvt gearboxes so I am probably slightly biased. .

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Added on November 18, 2010, 10:54 amPersonally, I dont feel as "secure" in the forte. I know forte / civic is not a sports car.

But regardless, I think they could have done much better.

That aside, its still a car well worth the 90k, but like i said, taking price out of the equation, there are a lot better cars in that segment.



This post has been edited by omnimech: Nov 18 2010, 10:54 AM

+1 if the torsion beam suspension is so good, cheaper and simpler to design. why don't they use in on F1, Ferrari and rally car such as Evo, Impreza etc? tell me why there are always cheaper range car use torsion beam? (please don't compare with estima or alphard, it's for space saving on MPV) Forte need Electronic Stability Control (ESC) and
Traction Control System (TCS) due to it's cheap suspension design.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/how-mult...works-7804.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-link_suspension

No doubt it will happen on inspira as well.
Let us know after few years of driving if u happen to go for inspira

because for all its impressive stats on paper, the engine don't really deliver compared to k20 series found in the regular FD2s...

yeap~ its proven~ stock fd2 has 126whp and the lancer has 114whp~ it just shows the CVT gearbox on the lancer isnt as efficient as the CVT on the old Jazz~ its all about efficient and less powerloss on the transmission hence more power to the wheel~

as for torsion beam~ generally~ is lack on handling if compared to independent suspension on the same chassis/model~

What time the show start.
Get ready for some pop corn & drinks

Does this statement really help ?

if based on inspira 1.8 vs forte 1.6..i'll vote inspira!

Exactly, i really cant understand why ppl like to compare using on paper specs when in real life it doesnt deliver. Wats the purpose hving it on paper?

Just like forte 2.0 , on paper the Hp is higher than civic 2.0 but in real life, pick up is crap compared to civic. And civic engine is so much more smooth and refined.

Honestly, this is more failure on the gearbox more than anything.

If they had a 5 speed gearbox like the civic, it may give the fd2 a run for its money.

But we will never know.

I have seen ppl in singapore driving the 2 door kia koupe which is based on the forte.

I havent driven it before but from what I hear, its quite a solid car

prolly due to the diff gearbox limitation and also gear ratio settings, personally i dont think their pickup is crab at all.

i dont think that their pickup is ketam too
just that it's not as good as it 'advertised'

forte's handling has got nothing to shout about, really
i wonder what's the hype from the existing owners

yeap~ transmission efficiency is very important to have more power freed to the wheel~ the fd2 5-speed auto is a new design specially for FD2~ compact yet efficient in its design~ from 155hp on engine to 126whp on the wheel~ its less than 20% powerloss for an auto gearbox~ thats pretty good edi~

Hard to say too. It has to be efficient and having the right ratio.