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post Nov 15 2010, 09:21 PM

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Dont ever buy the forte. I seriously dont know what the hype is all about forte??!! I am currently driving the Nhc so when i got a chance to drive my frens forte 1.6 outstation, i was expecting a good experience.

First of all, full tank was rm79++ which we filled in damansara. When we reached ipoh, it was half tank d. Half a tank to reach ipoh???!!! And i was doin 110 -120 km/ h all the while with total 4 ppl in the car. Thats atrocious fc. And my frens car is a about 5 months old, yet when i sat in the car, the interior feels like it has been used for 2 years. Even my Nhc at 1.5 years looks newer than his .

Secondly, the steering is seriously so bad, u feel like ripping it up from the dashboard. It has a silly rubber feeling while driving. Absolutely no feedback at all, and the stupid thing keeps veering to the left for no particular reason. Alignment? My fren tried fixing it but no solution until now. Seriously am not being bias, one of the worst steering i hv ever used in my life. At speeds of 110km/h i can feel that the steering is not solid at all compared to
Nhc.

Thirdly, pickup from say 90 km/ h is zomg terrible. The moment i step on the gas, the engine made a huge fuss just to accelerate.

But no doubt this forte has good noise insulation, and all those fancy stuff like auto headlights, pushstart.

But seriously i hv been anti proton all this while, just this time, just for this time, i would recommend ts to take the inspira. It has jap dna and is way better than forte anytime, anywhr.

The koreans are on par with the japs now? Not even close!

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Nov 15 2010, 08:59 PM)
in Malaysia Civic sell at RM11xxxx
in Thailand/Langkawi the same Civic priced at RM7xxxx or less

does this shows that Civic sold in peninsular are way better than those sold in Thailand/Langkawi??

if like that ah, I advice u, don't get Inspira, please get the Vios TRD edition
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So how much does the forte sell
In langkawi? Wait, do they even sell forte in langkawi?


Common sense, if the rest of a c segment cars are sold at more than rm110k , and all of a sudden thrs one can sell below rm100k for 2.0 version, its definately not gonna be as good as say civic 2.0.

If it really is, it will be top sales in msia now. But thats not the case.
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post Nov 16 2010, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 16 2010, 12:02 AM)
guys, i really think it is stupid to compare like that, just like many others said:

Inspira fanboi or lancer wannabe will go for insipira.
same goes to Forte.

test your ownself, at the end of the day, u yourself paid your own car.

If u really want to compare, please do it PROTON VS HYUNDAI or KIA being Malaysian vs Korean car manufacturer.

I take Proton vs Hyundai as an example.

Both started off at almost the same time, and has been in the market for about 25 fucukkk years!
Where is Proton now and where is Hyundai now in the market?

what kind of cars, design, performance and others has Proton provided?

look at their latest product - Inspira and Sonata.

design wise - it is just sebijik lancer! 99% look alike. To me, it is just a complete copy over or they claim it is rebadge or whatever shit, i dont care.
Proton CEO says R&D is very expensive and dont worth the money to do it, and hence, they collaborate with Mitsu to buy this LANCER design.
Bear in mind, this lancer model has been in the market for so long (min also 4-5 years) already. Ppl sell u old model, u guys get HYPED with it? and now ppl come out with their new sportsback model, another 5 yrs later? Inspira aeroback?

Look at Hyundai Sonata, from R&D to FINISHED PRODUCTS are all by KOREAN themselves. try comparing their design? dont even need to compare cars from different segment, oops, Hyundai are producing a higher segment cars than the SORRY Proton whereby they started off the same era?

Hyundai Sonata 2.0 Standard is only priced RM60k *(after conversion) in Korea, for a D-segment car.
At what price is this Proton Inspira 2.0 priced in malaysia? 90k?

Here the arguments arise again, why people could priced their NATIONAL CARS so cheaply in their HOMEGROWN?
why are we buying expensive NATIONAL CARS in our HOMEGROWN?

I Don't mind being patriotic and to buy Proton if Proton could deliver similar class products like Hyundai.

Just to FEED YOU some facts, a fresh undergraduate that works in Samsung earns an annual salary of KRW30,000,000 to KRW35,000,000. Yes, it is 30 Million Korean Won! which is equivalent to about RM100k annual income or RM9-10k monthly income. I chop my xxxx off if a fresh graduate here in Malaysia can earn that money.

I hereby attach 2 photos for you to check out their car prices, cars that you dont see in Malaysia. Forte Koup priced at KRW21M and K5 is priced at KRW 27M. compare their income and spending power then compare Malaysian fresh graduate annual income and spending power. annual income of RM30k? buy inspira 90k? need 3 full years 100% savings?

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Off-topic abit, what Malaysian Brands has penetrated the world market?
A few of the world top brands are from Korea - Samsung, Hyundai, Kia and LG - they have successfully penetrated the world market.

In case if you do not know, please check out Kia K5, K7, their new sportage. Kia Korea
Samsung cars and Genesis.
and tell Proton those are the cars that they should produce instead of copying here and there, for instance, Inspira (which is 99% Lancer look-alike model) and has been running on the road for so many years, look at Sonata, their cars has a life cycle of 5 years. unlike Proton, Special edition, Limited Edition, Sports Edition, Merdeka Edition.

10 years later, Korean are well on top of us and we are no longger comparing to Korean, but we're comparing with Vietnamnese or Cambodian, let alone singaporean and korean.

No match comparing Malaysian vs Korean made.
A Phailed nation, even in many years to come.

Flame me as you wish~
Or tell me "if i dont like, I keluar" - Good job! This is the attitude that constitutes to the failure.
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Yes ,Korean cars are MUCH better than 100% Msian made cars,but still light years behind the Japs.

Since the Inspira has Jap DNA in it,it automatically makes it better than any Korean make.Korean cars are upcoming but still they lack that something to make it on par with Japs.Their designs are good,but in terms of engineering and technology,they are still way way behind the Japs.Just that you guys dont see it onie.You guys compare which car has better features like start stop button ,auto headlights..etc etc..


Jap will forever > Korean in terms of automotive engineering.Now thats a fact.

And I never trust any review especially from American websites,why? Cuz even Americans make crappy cars.SO yea how can you trust their reviews?

No matter how good the rating on the web,it still boils down to real life driving. wink.gif


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post Nov 16 2010, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Nov 16 2010, 12:35 AM)
and why you keep bashing your car (NHC) at city's thread?
japs technology your @$$. hahahaha
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Exactly. That shows i am not bias. I bash based on real life driving.Yes my Nhc has flaws but not as bad forte. So you can imagine where forte is. Wayyyyyyyyy back!

And yes forte leaves you speechless all the time ? Why cuz of its horrible drivetrain and driving experience. Ohyea was i speechless man!

Just admit it lah guys, i been driving jap cars for so long, up until now no single korean brand has been able to give the same jap driving experience.

If the car is good , i will praise just like i praised 308 turbo. But as i said , korean cars still hv a long way to go.

Hw they can survive in msia? Here you go, a minority of ppl that support them and most come frm this forum.

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post Nov 17 2010, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Nov 17 2010, 06:42 AM)
comfort driving ; forte slightly ahead(just) in term of nvh rate. but forte was sold in lower profile tires for the looks? and changing to different profile tires
may required the recalibration of mds in 2.0 model. not to mentioned changing tires sizes.
inspira ride is leaning towards sporty feel which is slightly stiffer and more composed.
Good FC ; if you can stand the constant gear changing in traffic jam, inspira 1.8 manual is the choice over the 1.6 forte.
Good resell value ; very subjective issue. korean's car resale value used to sux' to the max. but forte is a new model.
a friend of mine sold his year old car(from his own evaluation) car was bought at the end of last year.
while standard industry calculation render the car to be as good as 2 years old car, thus used car evaluator value his car at 5x,xxx bucks.
he sold it to a relative at 6x,xxx.  smile.gif
since inspira was a re-badge lancer, it should be able to hold its value better than its predecessor(existing proton model).

oh, drove a friend's forte before he sold it and test drive the inspira 2.0 too.
and inspira's handling is almost 2 step ahead of the forte. you should test drive and feel for yourself  smile.gif
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Just test drove the inspira 1.8 and i can officially say it is anytime better than forte.

Forte is no match at all lah. Inspira feels so jap which is fantastic! Pick up is great and the playing with the gears using the gearstick is just a joy to drive. Responsive with loads of made in japan parts,forte does not even come close!

This inspira really has got to be the buy of the year!
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post Nov 17 2010, 01:55 PM

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I dont even know why they bother comparing forte with inspira. Its not even a close fight.

Inspira feels so solid and the steering gives plenty of feedback. Ride is superb for a Proton! I dont need push start buttons, gimme an inspira!


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post Nov 17 2010, 01:59 PM

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Even if forte 2.0 vs inspira 2.0, inspira will win hands down.

Totally no match at all..
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post Nov 17 2010, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Nov 17 2010, 03:46 PM)
Exterior :
Forte
W=1775mm
L=4530mm
H=1460mm
Wheelbase=2650mm
Inspira
W=1760mm
L=4570mm
H=1490mm
Wheelbase=2635mm

Interior :
Forte
W=1467mm
L=1903mm
H=1207mm
Inspira
W=1421mm
L=2030mm
H=1190mm

Source :
http://www.protoninspira.com/
http://www.nazakia.com.my/sedans/forte/specifications


Added on November 17, 2010, 3:46 pmnow which 1 is more big and spacious?
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Lolz,such tiny difference.I bet you dont even bother about it when you are driving the car.If that kinda difference is so important to you,then you must be a very very obese man.

Anyhow,TS why dont i recommend you to test drive the Inspira 1.8? If got budget get the 2.0.

AS for Forte 1.6,pickup is teruk.I dont know how that engine can win so many awards.Dont even want to know.Might not even be credited.

If you must get a Forte,you have to get the 2.0 lah TS,cuz 1.6 seriously lacking in engine and driving dynamics.Its seriously not nice to drive at all.

Inspira on the other hand ,has much better driver involvement .Forget about all those "extras" on the Forte.The reason why Forte has to include all these "EXTRAS" is because without it,FORTE will never sell well in Msia.

EXTRAS like pushstart,auto this and that.All these are marketing gimmicks.The main thing when you buy a car is,the engine has gotta be a good one,driving pleasure has to be there.And forte is not even close to that at all.

DOnt be fooled by gimmicks like mentioned above.Cause at the end of the day,you are gonna drive the car not bother about the EXTRAS when you are driving on the road.

Ok,TS you may close this thread now.Thank you everyone for watching.Dont eat too much popcorn,you might get fat and need a bigger car "LIKE FORTE"


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post Nov 17 2010, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(nash9701 @ Nov 17 2010, 07:00 PM)
i think like i want to host a Malaysia Top Gear Special Edition (Inspira) next year to bring up challenge from other car with Inspira..so that can satisfy everyone...

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you will never be able to satisfy everyone.Cuz KIA fanboy will say forte is the best while Proton fanboy will say Inspira is the best.

I am a Honda fella,and I am saying a PROTON INSPIRA is the better car.SO go figure!

But if you have a chance at hosting MTGSE ,i would love to attend the show in person.Would be great to see how Japs can put a nail in the coffin to this Jap vs Kor argument.

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post Nov 18 2010, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(RahXeph0n @ Nov 18 2010, 01:06 AM)
Are you guys sure there's anything good about the forte's 1.6 engine? the Cerato is only offered in 2.0 and 2.4 elsewhere if I'm not mistaken, so most evaluations are for these two engines. Not the 1.6. Besides, there is a difference between the gamma engine and the GEMA engine right? no?
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Yes exactly. 1.6 is hopelessly weak.. I m not sure bout the 2.0 but i reckon its hardly powerful and cant compare with civic 2.0 .

Korean cars hv nice designs nowadays, sadly their performance is still lagging behind.


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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 18 2010, 11:00 AM)
because for all its impressive stats on paper, the engine don't really deliver compared to k20 series found in the regular FD2s...
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Exactly, i really cant understand why ppl like to compare using on paper specs when in real life it doesnt deliver. Wats the purpose hving it on paper?

Just like forte 2.0 , on paper the Hp is higher than civic 2.0 but in real life, pick up is crap compared to civic. And civic engine is so much more smooth and refined.
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LOL the argument is still going on.Cant believe it.

Anyway just dropped by to say have fun debating.Hope the winner gets a million bucks!
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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Nov 18 2010, 05:53 PM)
Let's have a race Between Inspira & Forte settle once & for all !! rclxms.gif
Location Sepang circuit  brows.gif

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Inspira will pawn Forte all the way back to Holland!
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post Nov 27 2010, 12:35 PM

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LOL you guys still discussing about the crappy Forte?

Cant understand why you like Forte so much.

Oh,anyway just to let you guys know.Up to you to believe me or not.My frens 6 month Forte 1.6 now has some squeaking sound coming from absorber when go over bumps and when he turns his steering to the right.

Typical Korean quality.

Nice when New,Rubbish when OLD.

For Korean cars,OLD = 6 months!

Oh well,their parts all dont last long.My company deals with Korean medical equipment.My goodness,the reliability is horrible.So many breakdowns,so many hardware failure.I dont know why I am still in this company.

Obtw,this will be my last post here.

Have fun with your Korean Junk!


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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Nov 27 2010, 03:06 PM)
lol..why forte won so many awards? Now malaysia won 2 Car of the year award somemore? where is city hah?
what a joke this kevin dude..

Ur still working in medical sales becoz of ur stupid mentality.. no one would accept anyone like you to be their employee.. wasted ur biotech degree.. lol..
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Haha,at least earning more than you. I dont mind doin sales better than ur pathetic 9-5 job.

And who cares how many awards forte wins. Most important is nice to drive.

Previous post shud b last post. but such silly comments just begged to be replied
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Duno what kinda president this xioncity is. Doesnt talk or act like one.

Just reflects on him badly.

R u sure u are really a president of myforte club? Pls step down if u are cuz you dont deserve to be there
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Hahahahahahaha,someone said Forte has European SOUL? LOL!

Biggest joke of the century!

PLs i test drove Forte 1.6 countless times.In terms of gadgets ,yes its got plenty.In terms of driving experience,it TOTALLY FAILED! Its not even close to Proton.Proton drives so much better.Mind you,I hate Proton so much.But Proton driving experience is way better than KIA.

Inspira doesnt have the gadgets but the engine is phenomenal and the gearbox is so damn freaking smooth! The suspension is amazing,it absorbs all road irregularities like nobodys business.

If I had to pick a Proton or a Kia this time,I would 100% pic Proton Inspira simply because it drives amazingly and has pure Jap soul inside of it.

The Kia has the looks and gadgets,but drives with the soul of a 20 year old Korean car.Its just not there yet.Its not even close to any Jap make let alone European make.

I know,all the usual suspects like XionCity will come to protect his beloved Forte.I am bored of that,can you just accept the fact about ur car?! doh.gif


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post Feb 6 2011, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Feb 5 2011, 10:33 PM)
You drove a 4 speed Forte.

Currently 6 speed Forte gearbox is so smooth that it is better than CVT and make a statement that says, why need CVT if
got 6 speed GB.

Forte do have Audi soul since the designer are previous Audi designer. So its better than Japan soul. As a matter of fact, Japan
car has no soul ever since they become top car manufacturer. They lost their soul until their car cannot break and causing death.

Jap soul in Proton Inspira? hahaha...
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Hahahaha....u can put a 10 speeder in the stupid Forte and it will still have the same useless engine.So what?

Forte have Audi SOUL? LOL! doh.gif Ok ,give u the benefit of the doubt ,it has Audi design cues,but still drives like shit. sweat.gif


QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Feb 6 2011, 03:23 AM)
ahahah...and he tot his new city is so keng enuf to bash every other car out there...face the fact...u f***ing bought a 90k car 1.5 which u can f***ing add another 2k for a 2.0 inspira with better engine,better gearbox,better chasis,better interior and a much better,well,priced car

a CVT is there to replace conventional gearbox for a reason...no matter 5 speed 6 speed o 7 speed...normal auto gearbox pulls better at 1st...and also mayb 2nd....but there's time consuming shift time also,so if the gearbox is lousy and it doesnt shift fast enuf,its gonna be left bhind

ok...korean cars are catching up really fast,and of coz with very attractive price...but still have to face it...those newer auto makers are copy paste of watever there is in the market already.tats y they dont have to be at high price which those euro and japs auto maker have to do with intense RnD for parts and technology...this is why u see the LFA is so damn expensive...all the money paid into RnD of making the car

Inspira is cheap because Mitsubishi has did all the RnD on the lancer and most of problematic parts has been solved by mitsubishi...proton just sign the design and everything over and then add a bit of this and tat to it so tat its Proton...cant really bash proton for this because i would say many out there would love to have mitsubishi technology than proton's own rnd technology
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Haha,better than your cheapo ahbeng cheap looking modded piece of crap if that is urs.Oh wait,do u even have a car dude? doh.gif


Added on February 6, 2011, 3:41 pm
QUOTE(XionCity @ Feb 5 2011, 11:58 PM)
F U C K Y O U!!!!! DAMN KEVIN!!!! PLEASE STOP PUTTING MY NAME ON THE LIST U M.f***A..
STOP BASH KOREAN CARS!!!!!!! GO AHEAD WITH YOUR BELOVED NHC.....f***A BASHER!!!!!!
TEST DRIVE 1.6 COUNTLESS TIMES SO WHAT?!?!?!?! THAT IS YOU, NOT OTHERS!!!!OTHER PPL LIKE FORTE OR INSPIRA IS THEIR OWN!!! YOU GOT YOUR OWN NHC, SO GET THE f*** OUT!!!!!!
DAMN....YOU ARE GETTING MORE RUDE THAN EVER!!!!


Added on February 6, 2011, 12:02 am
Conventional Auto gearbox with never win CVT gearbox....might only win in 1st and 2nd gear, then 3rd to 6th, CVT kiss conventional bye bye.....
and some information 2 u all.... current fortes dun hv CVT(Although is 6 spd)...BUT!!! Forte Hybrid LPi came with CVT gearbox....


Added on February 6, 2011, 12:05 am
yea, all he knows is bashing koreans....whenever korean manufactured, he bash....including Samsung, LG.....and alot more
Cybermaster89 formally korean basher also, but he's turn now to appreciate korean stuffs....at least i can c in him...
kevins only bash...damn hate him....


Added on February 6, 2011, 12:09 am
me too..
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Hahaha,ex-president has stepped in.Good to know that you stepped down.You sound like an uneducated kiddo here.And you were formally the president of Forte Club? Hahahahhaa..good joke!


QUOTE(xVince @ Feb 6 2011, 02:43 AM)
who doesn't? only dumbos listens to him. let him be. he needs to make himself feels good buying an overprice 90k honda city.
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Nah,i dont have to make myself feel good for buying overpriced cars.I always feel good with the car.In fact,I dont mind buying overpriced cars .At least i get to contribute to the economy.

Too bad my perception towards Korean cars is still that they have good design,but still drives terribly.If not I would have bought an expensive overpriced junk like Sonata.

Weird though,so many of you say Forte is a great car which is cheap for its class but I see more of the new BMW 5-series on the road compared to Forte.Whats wrong eh? sweat.gif



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post Feb 6 2011, 04:46 PM

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Hahaha..thanks for ur fantastic replies.Keep them coming in.I feel so "PAINFUL" you all attack Honda City.But pls keep them flowing.


Added on February 6, 2011, 4:48 pm
QUOTE(adrianteddy @ Feb 6 2011, 04:22 PM)
haha, no need sked la, that guy cakap besar, bola tarak, sendiri sudah beli junk liao tak mahu mengaku sad.gif im sad for him u know ! he think his car can pwned inspira and forte ! tengok2 , its only a piece of ShY-TTttttt !


Added on February 6, 2011, 4:23 pm
inspira>his piece of rubbish car ! LAP SAP ! vtec useless one ! Inspira got MIVEC and also better handling ! smile.gif City sucks ! Lap Sap(rubbish) car ! still wanan act yeng with that piece of junk -.- tsk tsk tsk
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Yea yea,bola tarak.You dont have to be sad for me.Go and be sad for ur parents for having a retard like you. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(squareballs @ Feb 6 2011, 04:40 PM)
my wajunk more space den city..
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Why dont u go drive a lorry then.You will have plenty of space.Another dumbass doh.gif


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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Feb 6 2011, 04:50 PM)
The only dumbass and retard is see here is kevin
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Haha,good for you .

QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Feb 6 2011, 04:53 PM)
pakai city pun nak kecoh..mcm bagus sgt..
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LOL! Who kecoh now? Me or the Forte owners?

Go ask XionCIty and Frostlance.




Inspira all the way !!!

Forte sau pei lah.Stupid engine,stupid chassis,stupid 6 speed gearbox.

And suddenly all saying I kecoh bout my city?!

LOL! I am here supporting Inspira lah retards! BODO!

See how FORTE fanboys u are?!

Cant even differentiate Honda CIty and INspira!


Added on February 6, 2011, 5:00 pmHow come you guys here are so defensive about ur car?

I am here supporting Inspira and you go say i kecoh about Honda City?

Did i even mention one thing bout my car in the last few posts?

Are you all blind or retards?



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