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 Inspira vs Forte, which one will you go for

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omnimech
post Nov 18 2010, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Adin @ Nov 18 2010, 10:37 AM)
So, have you already test drive both "showroom" unit yet? I bet you didn't, right? So don't just simply say which one is better while you haven't even touch the car body yet. Please put your statement with facts if not for me it just all "tahi kerbau"...
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Forte handling sucks. 4 speed gearbox no fun to drive.

Driven Forte 2.0 / Civic 2.0 / Altis 2.0 / Mazda 3 2.0

Still thinks forte handling sucks. Those are facts.

Its up to the buyer, you want to say your car is the best. Thats fine.

I personally love the civic, I bought it, it got stolen 2 months ago.

So you may think I am biased against the civic, but honestly.

If price wasnt a factor, there are many cars you can choose but for 90k the forte is 2.0 none the less.

This post has been edited by omnimech: Nov 18 2010, 10:43 AM
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(eddie_al @ Nov 18 2010, 10:50 AM)
not so sure if they should bash the lancer for its engine. when i drove it, i felt the combi of engine & cvt is wrong. similarly, the forte with its engine & 4-speeder is wrong. so finally, i manage to sit inside the Sonata, that finally has a combi that makes more sense. the same engine family, mated with a 6-speeder. i could swear if the sonata was lighter (down to the forte/lancer weight) the experiance would be very spirited drive. but sadly, the sonata needs at least a 2.4 so i am left with only speculations on what is the best combi for the gema engine, smile.gif
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Have to agree, but the lancer is pretty alright on acceleration, definitely better than the forte.

I personally dislike cvt gearboxes so I am probably slightly biased. smile.gif .


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QUOTE(Mavik @ Nov 18 2010, 10:51 AM)
Personally I have to agree a little bit. Sucks wouldn't be the right word to classify it, just that the suspension is a little wobbly as compared to the Civic (yes I have driven both cars before). Upside to that, the Forte is a lot more comfortable to drive and I love the gadgets on it while the Civic is lacking in a lot of gadgets. But after my friend brought his Forte to get it done with Autofoam, the handling improved and the drive improved in terms of comfort and quietness. Totally awesome!
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Personally, I dont feel as "secure" in the forte. I know forte / civic is not a sports car.

But regardless, I think they could have done much better.

That aside, its still a car well worth the 90k, but like i said, taking price out of the equation, there are a lot better cars in that segment.



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post Nov 18 2010, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Nov 18 2010, 11:16 AM)
What time the show start. brows.gif
Get ready for some pop corn & drinks  rclxms.gif
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Does this statement really help ?
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post Nov 18 2010, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 18 2010, 11:21 AM)
Exactly, i really cant understand why ppl like to compare using on paper specs when in real life it doesnt deliver. Wats the purpose hving it on paper?

Just like forte 2.0 , on paper the Hp is higher than civic 2.0 but in real life, pick up is crap compared to civic. And civic engine is so much more smooth and refined.
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Honestly, this is more failure on the gearbox more than anything.

If they had a 5 speed gearbox like the civic, it may give the fd2 a run for its money.

But we will never know.

I have seen ppl in singapore driving the 2 door kia koupe which is based on the forte.

I havent driven it before but from what I hear, its quite a solid car smile.gif
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post Nov 18 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(kiaforteclub @ Nov 18 2010, 02:49 PM)
"when it comes to regular bread and butter car handling, torsion beam will still lose out to independant... and this suspension discussion has been over and done with so many times until we can actually get fedup...." and yet still insist couple axle torsion beam watever bla bla is not your normal torsion beam....
pls refer back to my postings since when did i mentioned whatever beam was superior to independent suspension???

i posted the diff for forte vs others which referred to as by someone which felt disappointed and compare to other h-beam. i also pointed out the tech diff of various h-beam and how its better now. someone then butted in claiming Honda h-beam is better than others H-beam then claim again a H-beam is all the same = bad performance then compared to independent... why keep changing the topic and gold posts?

i have been using MULTILINK SUSPENSION (this is the right term) for many years and have company civic & bmw 3 as well so i know the pros-cons well enough. the h-beam posts is to update the misconception or perceptions if being inferior. but the comparison is only about out right performance which takes up 20% of your daily drive or less???

for me its was simple 75k car with comfortable strong body wide space & boot quite great audio good FC capable for long distance runs without much fuss.

did i say inspira no good? did i say multilink no good? since all h-beam the same then honda's ain't much better right? then why claim honda's beats everyones? for this then i can safely say inspira's handling can beat the crap out of honda's civic's h-beam? then Honda fanboys will claim no way Honda sure beats Lancer/Inspira...... i can't wait to see more new models coming with H-beams from Honda with best handling sales pitch.
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"for me its was simple 75k car with comfortable strong body wide space & boot quite great audio good FC capable for long distance runs without much fuss. "

To me this sentence is just trying to justify your purchase.

No one cares how much you pay for the car. Downright question is which one is more value for money.

So stop defending your purchases and answer the question

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To imply that Forte fans feel that we need to justify our car just because your civics or hondas has a better handling misses the point. In real world the trick is to find which car has been packaged to give you the best value for money and without doubt the 1.8 Inspira is a very good bet."

Lets stop playing compare. Some people think the automatic trunk opening when key is inside is a gimmick.

Some would rather have the power of the vtec and the 5 speed gearbox over the 4.

I dont know why you forte drivers come in and make a big hoo hah about your purchase.

no one cares. move along and answer the thread question.

I stand by the fact tha the forte handling is weak compared to the civic, altis, lancer.

ps . and before anyone says im going off topic, inspira is based on the lancer and many ppl claim that the handling on the inspira is similar if not better.

I personally test drove the 2.0 inspira, i felt the tyres were abit small, handling wise, couldnt tell much cause I wasnt speeding, but it was quite steady.

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post Nov 18 2010, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(keagan @ Nov 18 2010, 03:00 PM)
omnimech, altis's handling is as bad as it can get honestly...i would agree if you said the forte's handling is weaker den a civic..but i doubt it will be worse den an altis..heck even a honda city (dugong version) handles better den a stock altis imho...i have had both hence i'm making this statement from my personal experience
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Hrmm, I felt it was quite alright ?

Do you mean the new altis. I test drove the 2.0 dual vvti.

The engine response was not as great as the civic, but it definitely feels better than the 1.8 altis (1 version older).

Suspension wise, I did feel that it was a bit soft, but I was quite impressed by the cruising on the highway.

Given tyre noise was there (its not a bmw), it felt quite good.

Alas, I dont think the 140k price tag can be justified.

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post Nov 18 2010, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(keagan @ Nov 18 2010, 03:03 PM)
haha..maybe dugong's wrong.. lor hon den..ahaha...the bubbly front IDSI. tongue.gif
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You mean the honda city versoin right before the current new one ?

>_<

Handling on that is horrendous, that car is meant for city driving period.

Even slighly spirited driving can get you killed. the suspension is way too soft for any above average cornering >_<.

trust me, i used to drive one before i upgraded to civic .
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post Nov 18 2010, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(kiaforteclub @ Nov 18 2010, 03:07 PM)
i dont care if u want vtec or whatever u can have the nice engine all u want for all the price u pay
i want a car to enjoy & drive at the price i willing to pay! your money your own justification ...
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Like i said answer the question.

not try to bully your justification for buying your car.

I personally hate the forte for its lack of a 5 speed gearbox. Just couldnt feel the power and I didnt like the handling.

Those are my views.

like you i weighed the pros and cons and i bought the civic.

do i look like im trying to justify my purchase ?

eventhough i pay 40k more than you for a car of equivalent cc ?

just stick to the topic dude.

Some people would rather pay 230k for a bmw 320i

the driving pleasure is there.

Its up to the driver and how he manages his finances. No doubt most people can afford a 320i but not everyone is willing to go so far just for a car.

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post Nov 18 2010, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(keagan @ Nov 18 2010, 03:07 PM)
it can be corrected bro...i did a 4 point struts in front and the handling did improve =) was on 15 inch rims with stock suspension setup...i did play around with the springs and rims and the best was using the stock settings..yeah its wobbly when its stock standard..anything above 90 km/h gives me goosebumps..hahah
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Talking about stock . Hahah. no doubt any car with some money invested will have better handling.

For me the city was something to get from a to b.

Only when I got my civic, i felt more confident to go at higher speeds.

as a fellow city driver, you should know when a big truck overtakes you on the highway, your car wobbles tongue.gif
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post Nov 18 2010, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(kiaforteclub @ Nov 18 2010, 03:15 PM)
i have i-vtec and vanos to play with so ? even compressor so ? u can't feel the power or no 5th gear is your problem not others don't justify your anger to others happy with their cars. so u have a civic fine then why are u here bombing others preferences go play with your vtec....
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Bombing?

TS asking for opinion. Thats my opinion . Whats wrong with that. Just cause you own one ? TS should follow you =.= .

Oh wow. Even "Kompressor". Playing the money card? LOOOOOOL.

Dude, if you wanted to compare pocket sizes, I will gladly do it with you.

I am just stating my opinion, ts is free to read both our opinions and make a decision.

I just feel that your hardcore defence of the forte is cause you own one more than anything.
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post Nov 18 2010, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(kiaforteclub @ Nov 18 2010, 03:28 PM)
who wants to compare pockets i'm a poor bump cant affort vtec which suddenly became the topic which is always when u meet a honda fanboy.
just like when u meet a toyota fanboy its always FC which sadly honda still loses to.
forte or inspira owners rather not be lumped together even with H & T ppl
i feel for inspira owners they get the same heat as forte owners from others.......
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=.= .

Right. Just cause I said inspira is better compared to forte. you get riled up.

Wokay.

Woe is anyone who drives anything better than the forte.

If you want to go down that road, do whatever you want.

Geeeze, justify your purchase more, the more you do it, the more it looks like you regret it.
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post Nov 18 2010, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(keagan @ Nov 18 2010, 03:41 PM)
tht's quite a significant loss...i do wonder though, coz honda did have a history in its cvt by the name of multimatic or something like that which were used on the civics previously...but did mitsubishi have any experience in cvt boxes prior to this? coz i did read tht the cvt did have overheating issues too in the 2007-2008 models..
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I think they still do. It was a design issue. That could be fixed by installing a cooler.

According to proton, they identified this issue and fixed it in the inspira o_o

 

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