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 Inspira vs Forte, which one will you go for

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Taipan052
post Nov 17 2010, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 17 2010, 11:32 PM)
i refuse to comment anymore
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 17 2010, 11:51 PM)
no point talking about resale value here... it is something that dont exist! YET!
so leave it till next time. even forte resale value also remains unknown to me yet. so why bother to compare resale value?
why talk about something that dont exists yet?
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by the way.. TS, like i said come ask at forte/inspira thread if you wanna know more. all those non-forte/non-inspira/non-lancer owner knows nothing but to bash without facts.

edit: add "by the way.." laugh.gif

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post Nov 18 2010, 12:08 AM

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The most important feature in the forte is its Traction control System.. 6 Airbags on the 2.0..(10 deployable points)

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post Nov 18 2010, 12:15 AM

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pick proton inspira if only manual

pick forte if only auto
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post Nov 18 2010, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Nov 17 2010, 11:55 PM)
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TS, like i said come ask at forte/inspira thread if you wanna know more. all those non-forte/non-inspira/non-lancer owner knows nothing but to bash without facts.
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LOL rclxms.gif

don't comment anymore also means i'm bashing? so comment means not basing? hahaha... i know comments can be constructive ones, but dont comment means complete bash hahahahahhahahahahha u're so cute like your avatar =)

oh ya, ask u guys to discussing something that don't exists yet also means i'm bashing without facts?
common sense please? if something that is dont exists yet, and u all are giving conclusion like inspira resale value better???? u dont mind providing me some FACTS please?

seems like u guys are concluding WITHOUT facts.
did i bash without facts? Lol! i dont understand which part i bash on both cars flex.gif
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post Nov 18 2010, 12:22 AM

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1 of the bashers here is kevin23
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post Nov 18 2010, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 18 2010, 12:20 AM)
LOL  rclxms.gif

don't comment anymore also means i'm bashing? so comment means not basing? hahaha... i know comments can be constructive ones, but dont comment means complete bash hahahahahhahahahahha u're so cute like your avatar =)

oh ya, ask u guys to discussing something that don't exists yet also means i'm bashing without facts?
common sense please? if something that is dont exists yet, and u all are giving conclusion like inspira resale value better???? u dont mind providing me some FACTS please?

seems like u guys are concluding WITHOUT facts.
did i bash without facts? Lol! i dont understand which part i bash on both cars  flex.gif
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dun get me wrong. i quote your "refuse to comment anymore" and then suddenly got another comment from you. thats funny. thats all. laugh.gif

my comment below that does not related at all with you and your comments. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Nov 18 2010, 12:37 AM

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from what TS said, forte suits TS more.

but yeah if got the dough, just go for civic hybrid. save money on gas, great handling, and safe+quiet car and great for family too..

yeah
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post Nov 18 2010, 01:06 AM

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Are you guys sure there's anything good about the forte's 1.6 engine? the Cerato is only offered in 2.0 and 2.4 elsewhere if I'm not mistaken, so most evaluations are for these two engines. Not the 1.6. Besides, there is a difference between the gamma engine and the GEMA engine right? no?
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post Nov 18 2010, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Nov 18 2010, 12:22 AM)
1 of the bashers here is kevin23
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he is famous bashing korean cars around the forum. try to see any Korean Car vs Anything (except korean), he'll be there to bash it.
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post Nov 18 2010, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(kiaforteclub @ Nov 17 2010, 11:02 PM)
lets see renault and euro civic (non type r) uses t-beam all set for comfort bias also
so did citreon and others.... so what gives? bad for performance? nope the above statement says its capable to be tuned for track
bad for comfort? nope cause most comfort bias cars also use t-beam so whats wrong with it?  hmm.gif

not good enough???
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i am actually quite amazed at your knowledge window actually......
so are u saying comfort or performance now?

let me see,
lets take a off the showroom forte and off the show room civic euro R...
now tell me, which car will u rather be in, in a track?

if u want to compare out and out track car, sorry i still choose not to be in a forte...
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forte is a good car but if u want to compare it to inspira handling or other same category/class bread and butter cars, sorry forte is not at the top of the list but more towards the middle...
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post Nov 18 2010, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 18 2010, 01:59 AM)
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i am actually quite amazed at your knowledge window actually......
so are u saying comfort or performance now?

let me see,
lets take a off the showroom forte and off the show room civic euro R...
now tell me, which car will u rather be in, in a track?

if u want to compare out and out track car, sorry i still choose not to be in a forte...
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forte is a good car but if u want to compare it to inspira handling or other same category/class bread and butter cars, sorry forte is not at the top of the list but more towards the middle...
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take a showroom forte vs a showroom euro civic (non-R) this is fair comparison>?
but someone compared it to viva myvi etc would forte fair better or worst?
if Forte has a sport version to compare to euro civic type-r it'll be the Koup below....

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SEMA Show: Kia Forte Koup Type R Concept

Making its debut at this week's SEMA aftermarket show is Kia's Forte Koup Type R Concept model, which is said to be inspired by its racing siblings that take part in the GRAND-AM Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge.

The concept was developed by Kia's racing partner, Kinetic Motorsports, who built and campaigns the Forte Koup race cars. Performance upgrades are limited to a set of BBS RG 18-inch forged aluminum alloy wheels, race-inspired tires and suspension components, a short throw gaearshift and dampened composite fiber disc clutch.

On the styling front, the Koup Type R is finished in a dramatic looking gray color and comes with a widened body kit that includes front fenders, rocker panels and rear quarter panels.

Inside, the designers modified the interior with custom dressed seats and door panels, a new gear shift knob and carbon inlays.

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post Nov 18 2010, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Nov 18 2010, 12:08 AM)
The most important feature in the forte is its Traction control System.. 6 Airbags on the 2.0..(10 deployable points)
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... and ECS!!!


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post Nov 18 2010, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Nov 18 2010, 07:24 AM)
... and ECS!!!
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and mind to enlight me what ECS stands for? hmm.gif
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post Nov 18 2010, 08:16 AM

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Antilock Braking System (ABS)
Electronic Stability Control (ESC)
Traction Control System (TCS)

Suspension
Front McPherson Strut with coil spring, Shock Absorber – Gas (Mando)
Rear Coupled Torsion Beam Axle (CTBA), Shock Absorber – Gas (Mando) - (new patented version by Hyundai diff from normal torsion beam)


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post Nov 18 2010, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(RahXeph0n @ Nov 18 2010, 01:06 AM)
Are you guys sure there's anything good about the forte's 1.6 engine? the Cerato is only offered in 2.0 and 2.4 elsewhere if I'm not mistaken, so most evaluations are for these two engines. Not the 1.6. Besides, there is a difference between the gamma engine and the GEMA engine right? no?
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Yes exactly. 1.6 is hopelessly weak.. I m not sure bout the 2.0 but i reckon its hardly powerful and cant compare with civic 2.0 .

Korean cars hv nice designs nowadays, sadly their performance is still lagging behind.


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post Nov 18 2010, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(xVince @ Nov 18 2010, 02:16 AM)
he is famous bashing korean cars around the forum. try to see any Korean Car vs Anything (except korean), he'll be there to bash it.
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now i see......
if he hates korean car so much....why not he juz leave us alone?!?!
this is TS's thread, not for him to simply bash around....
we(I) are korean fans...love korean products....samsung, LG, KIA....i am using it all....quality = very reliable.
yes, the 1.6 engine is mainly for budget types of buyer like me....
and that's also the reason why korean ald launched the 1.6GDI engine with 140hp 6 spd transmission now in korea, and MIGHT be in malaysia by nx year....with this 1.6GDI engine can be on par with 4B10 engine ald....
don't think korean are stup1d....they are smart, reacted very fast, response very fast.
when they knew a problem, they wun delay find out wat the problem was..better than protons
that's why in juz 7 years time since spectra launched, it improved soooo much....wat bt T&H??? look at previously toyota corolla and vios, to current VIOS and altis(corolla), and from 2004 city with 2009 city.....VIOS(damn ugly look) CITY(more makan minyak than 2004-2005 ones)

called that improvements?
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(kiaforteclub @ Nov 18 2010, 07:11 AM)
take a showroom forte vs a showroom euro civic (non-R) this is fair comparison>?
but someone compared it to viva myvi etc would forte fair better or worst?
if Forte has a sport version to compare to euro civic type-r it'll be the Koup below....

user posted image

SEMA Show: [B]Kia Forte Koup Type R Concept

Making its debut at this week's SEMA aftermarket show is Kia's Forte Koup Type R Concept model, which is said to be inspired by its racing siblings that take part in the GRAND-AM Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge.

The concept was developed by Kia's racing partner, Kinetic Motorsports, who built and campaigns the Forte Koup race cars. Performance upgrades are limited to a set of BBS RG 18-inch forged aluminum alloy wheels, race-inspired tires and suspension components, a short throw gaearshift and dampened composite fiber disc clutch.

On the styling front, the Koup Type R is finished in a dramatic looking gray color and comes with a widened body kit that includes front fenders, rocker panels and rear quarter panels.

Inside, the designers modified the interior with custom dressed seats and door panels, a new gear shift knob and carbon inlays.[/b]
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this forte coupe type-R is still concept...
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a showroom forte vs a showroom euro civic, sorry to say the civic will still handle better....
but when it comes to value for money features, yes, forte is better...
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why bother when people take myvi/viva handling in comparison with forte?
those are go to market cars of a different category... why even bother replying to that? they just make themselves look stupid and just let it be.
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QUOTE(kiaforteclub @ Nov 18 2010, 08:16 AM)
Antilock Braking System (ABS)
Electronic Stability Control (ESC)
Traction Control System (TCS)

Suspension
Front McPherson Strut with coil spring, Shock Absorber – Gas (Mando)
Rear Coupled Torsion Beam Axle (CTBA), Shock Absorber – Gas (Mando) - (new patented version by Hyundai diff from normal torsion beam)
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a torsion beam will still be a torsion beam no matter what and how u name it or how you put it...
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its just that the way marketing people put it makes the general public think "wow my t-beam is different"..

when u look at it mechanically, it is actually just a normal torsion-beam with different level of tension (by manufacturer)
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 18 2010, 08:37 AM)
Yes exactly. 1.6 is hopelessly weak.. I m not sure bout the 2.0 but i reckon its hardly powerful and cant compare with civic 2.0 .

Korean cars hv nice designs nowadays, sadly their performance is still lagging behind.
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the 2.0 theta is essentially the same 4b11 lancer of the same engine family. they dont differ much on power, but because each maker uses different tranny, the power deliverance is therefore slightly different. should they all use the same g/box, they should be almost identical. (engine nature & performance). so, while not exactly civic k engine standard, the power is definately there with the high torque. it is forte's 4-speeder thats holding it back.

meantime, the 1.6 gamma is from the spectra5 iirc. it's not the best engine to run the forte, & as other pointed out, the awards forte received are from other powertrains. should the 1.6 become the only engine forte has, i too, doubt there would be as much praise from external reviewers. (sorry, owners opinion excluded)

for heavy cars, bigger displacement is the only way to go for the common NA. unless koreans/japs goes something brilliant like the VW's TSi. btw, c-segment cars suffering smaller cc are not only a korean problem, the altis 1.6 was similarly lethargic compared to the bigger cc sibling. hope this sets the info straight for fanbois from both japs & koreans.
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 18 2010, 08:37 AM)
Yes exactly. 1.6 is hopelessly weak.. I m not sure bout the 2.0 but i reckon its hardly powerful and cant compare with civic 2.0 .

Korean cars hv nice designs nowadays, sadly their performance is still lagging behind.
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it has more HP then the civic lol...
basically the same engine as the 4b11 la..
weird ppl praise the lancer engine's but bash the forte's.
lol


Added on November 18, 2010, 10:36 am
QUOTE(eddie_al @ Nov 18 2010, 10:32 AM)
the 2.0 theta is essentially the same 4b11 lancer of the same engine family. they dont differ much on power, but because each maker uses different tranny, the power deliverance is therefore slightly different. should they all use the same g/box, they should be almost identical. (engine nature & performance). so, while not exactly civic k engine standard, the power is definately there with the high torque. it is forte's 4-speeder thats holding it back.

meantime, the 1.6 gamma is from the spectra5 iirc.  it's not the best engine to run the forte, & as other pointed out, the awards forte received are from other powertrains. should the 1.6 become the only engine forte has, i too, doubt there would be as much praise from external reviewers. (sorry, owners opinion excluded)

for heavy cars, bigger displacement is the only way to go for the common NA. unless koreans/japs goes something brilliant like the VW's TSi. btw, c-segment cars suffering smaller cc are not only a korean problem, the altis 1.6 was similarly lethargic compared to the bigger cc sibling. hope this sets the info straight for fanbois from both japs & koreans.
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the forte's 4 speed is holding is back is quite true..but performance wise...it has much better then the slow lancer bottleneck CVT,

Yes some ppl complaint the 1.6 forte is quite underpowered..hopefully by 2011 they can bring in the GDi 1.6 which are superb..(same as avante's)
with 138 bhp if not mistaken and damn low fuel consumption..city n dugong is gonna die mang...(that is if they bring the new facelifted forte with GDi and 6 speed auto or avante with this spec)

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