i guess you don't really read much...

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and why must you wait for JC to say anything nice about what you want to drive? his balls smells nicer? that's some twisted logic in yr statement. JC doesnt say anything nice about hybrid cars too, infact, he hated them. so? every carmakers should just stop making them because of that?

i got some Root Beer...want some bro? lol. damn, i so wished i am a fanboi so i could join in the fight...disqualified. ish....

i dont see actors, only spectators & some fans throwing fansign & posters at each other. it would have been a 3 way fight if a certain Toyota warrior joins in. FAN is RAW. lol.

sorry but i always try to maintain a clear line between enthusiasm & fanboism. odd how some peeps gets ego boost from driving certain rides... ...it's not like the two compared cars are highly sought after or exclusive also.

the 2.0 theta is essentially the same 4b11 lancer of the same engine family. they dont differ much on power, but because each maker uses different tranny, the power deliverance is therefore slightly different. should they all use the same g/box, they should be almost identical. (engine nature & performance). so, while not exactly civic k engine standard, the power is definately there with the high torque. it is forte's 4-speeder thats holding it back.

meantime, the 1.6 gamma is from the spectra5 iirc. it's not the best engine to run the forte, & as other pointed out, the awards forte received are from other powertrains. should the 1.6 become the only engine forte has, i too, doubt there would be as much praise from external reviewers. (sorry, owners opinion excluded)

for heavy cars, bigger displacement is the only way to go for the common NA. unless koreans/japs goes something brilliant like the VW's TSi. btw, c-segment cars suffering smaller cc are not only a korean problem, the altis 1.6 was similarly lethargic compared to the bigger cc sibling. hope this sets the info straight for fanbois from both japs & koreans.

agree. infact, the cousin of forte, i30 handles even better with its independant multi link, but, oddly enough there is not much hype here in msia. the kia ceed which the i30 shares the platform got praises from TG for it's excellent handling. i know the i30 here is using an older generation engine (not the theta, should be either gamma or beta), but mechanically & interior material wise, it is a much upmarket vehicle.

not so sure if they should bash the lancer for its engine. when i drove it, i felt the combi of engine & cvt is wrong. similarly, the forte with its engine & 4-speeder is wrong. so finally, i manage to sit inside the Sonata, that finally has a combi that makes more sense. the same engine family, mated with a 6-speeder. i could swear if the sonata was lighter (down to the forte/lancer weight) the experiance would be very spirited drive. but sadly, the sonata needs at least a 2.4 so i am left with only speculations on what is the best combi for the gema engine,

in the end of the day, we can all see who gives opinion based on nuetral ground & who's a fanboi

back to the TS's topic, after considering all the pros & cons weighted against his requirement, TS, you should go with the inspira.

if all goes well, it will replace the standing of the old Wira & waja, where once not so long ago, the whole road is infested with them before endangered marine animal & tropical flowerhorn became the national car. with proton, the least you need to worry is spare part availability. the most you have to worry is the doors & windows failing on you. on the lancer, that should be quite unlikely...i hope.

i used to have a wira that i loved so much because i can find any parts anywhere. but same time it is very temperamental as it always wants me to keep finding parts since they will break down regularly. love hate relationship, like first love.

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different torsion beam because it is mounted differently. say....custom faded colors...anyone?

This post has been edited by eddie_al: Nov 18 2010, 01:22 PM

please...do not rub salt onto Proton anymore than they already have. didnt you read? a few pages back someone mentioned that Proton wanted to get laid with a German lass, only to be rejected. that's why now they got back with their divorced wife.

i mean, comon, who doesnt want a hot, sexy, blue-eyed.....DSG/TSi/GT golf/polo/passat cc.

p/s: i know what you all are thinking after reading the 1st half of the sentence above...ahahaha....even Proton had wetdreams too ok.

i see. sorry, guess not everyone loves driving something fun,

from war, we came to love. from love, we came to discussing about war, love, women, german lass & french blonde & japanese GT queens. i just love cars, dont you all do?