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ericmaxman
post Sep 7 2011, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Sep 7 2011, 07:09 PM)
dude, Gamma engine is not the same as the GEMA engine...wiki it.

the GEMA engines only come with min displacement of 1.8l
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Wait, wha- ?

Damn, getting old

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ar188
post Sep 7 2011, 07:12 PM

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so who won?
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post Sep 7 2011, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 7 2011, 07:12 PM)
so who won?
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C segment car that can do RM0.11 / km .. even cheaper then my manual gear myvi..
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post Sep 7 2011, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Sep 7 2011, 07:02 PM)
Who the FUCUK troll-ed this shit in??

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IP Address -> 175.145.121.52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Forte

Just because it isn't interlinked, doesnt mean its not used in the Forte doh.gif

and here

http://www.nazakia.com.my/sedans/forte-6-s.../specifications
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haiyo...wiki also wiki properly la bro.

GEMA= GLOBAL ENGINE MANUFACTURERS ALLIANCE,

GEMA TARAK SAMA WITH GAMMA

Chrysler kahwin Mitsu kahwin Hyundai = GEMA engine

anak Chrysler i dont know,

anak mitsu 4B series

anak Hyundai = Theta series

the ones in the sonata is equipped with dual-CVVT and the ones in forte koup and 2.0 only comes with CVVT
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post Sep 7 2011, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Sep 7 2011, 07:14 PM)
C segment car that can do RM0.11 / km .. even cheaper then my manual gear myvi..
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dem kheng.. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 7 2011, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Sep 7 2011, 07:14 PM)
haiyo...wiki also wiki properly la bro.

GEMA= GLOBAL ENGINE MANUFACTURERS ALLIANCE,

GEMA TARAK SAMA WITH GAMMA

Chrysler kahwin Mitsu kahwin Hyundai = GEMA engine

anak Chrysler i dont know,

anak mitsu 4B series

anak Hyundai = Theta series

the ones in the sonata is equipped with dual-CVVT and the ones in forte koup and 2.0 only comes with CVVT
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my bad
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post Sep 7 2011, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Sep 7 2011, 03:04 PM)
MAX 510km for 48L
48L (Ron95) = 48 X 1.9 = RM91.20

RM91.20 for 510km = RM 0.18 / KM ....
48L (Ron95) = 48 X 1.9 = RM91.20

RM91.20 for 700km (HW) = RM 0.13 / KM
Where got RM0.11 or RM0.06 / KM .. u tot hybrid meh ..

you cant even calculate properly tongue.gif
I get about 15.5km/L on highway drives (at 130kmph) and 13.5km/L in town driving on my 2003 Toyota Vios. So at current fuel pricing its about RM0.12 for 100% highway.
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post Sep 7 2011, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Sep 7 2011, 07:14 PM)
C segment car that can do RM0.11 / km .. even cheaper then my manual gear myvi..
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when i saw RM0.11 - RM0.13 per-KM with RON95 i was very surprised, but then 510KM for 48L/50L, it is more worse than my 17 years old engine hmm.gif

and RM0.05 - RM0.06 with RON97?? epic fail! laugh.gif


QUOTE(ckk125 @ Sep 7 2011, 07:14 PM)
haiyo...wiki also wiki properly la bro.

GEMA= GLOBAL ENGINE MANUFACTURERS ALLIANCE,

GEMA TARAK SAMA WITH GAMMA

Chrysler kahwin Mitsu kahwin Hyundai = GEMA engine

anak Chrysler i dont know,

anak mitsu 4B series

anak Hyundai = Theta series

the ones in the sonata is equipped with dual-CVVT and the ones in forte koup and 2.0 only comes with CVVT
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another thing to add, eventho they using the same basic design for every engine, each manufacturer will customize it according to their own priorities. excerpt from wiki:
"Each manufacturer configured their variants of the basic GEMA design differently based on their engineering needs and standards, so consumers may experience very different power, fuel efficiency, and "feel" from each manufacturer."
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 7 2011, 07:15 PM)
dem kheng..  thumbup.gif
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My Savvy also cannot fight.... sweat.gif


Added on September 7, 2011, 8:21 pm
QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Sep 7 2011, 07:11 PM)
Wait, wha- ?

Damn, getting old

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Bro. YOU NEED GLASSES. biggrin.gif laugh.gif

This post has been edited by Matrix: Sep 7 2011, 08:21 PM
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post Sep 7 2011, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 7 2011, 08:19 PM)
My Savvy also cannot fight.... sweat.gif


Added on September 7, 2011, 8:21 pm
Bro. YOU NEED GLASSES.  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif
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wah you got savvy wan ar.. just notice.. last time got one fanatic called savvybaby.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Sep 7 2011, 09:04 AM)
what is the kurb weight of the forte 1.6?

real world performance, the cvt will allow the 1.8 inspira to maintain at 6k rpm and the 4 speeder will be constantly hovering at 4-6k rpm. that performance loss is worse.

here are the comparison for the 4b10 and the gamma 1.6 cvvt torque curve. i think we can see which has more torque at lover revs is better for town driving.

look at 2k rpm, which most of us will be at in town
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wondering why the people here always compared car with different CC one doh.gif
1.6 how to compared to 1.8?1.8 sure got better low end torq and power la bro blush.gif

why not take 2.0 compared to 1.8?
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QUOTE(ferrari38 @ Sep 7 2011, 09:09 PM)
wondering why the people here always compared car with different CC one doh.gif
1.6 how to compared to 1.8?1.8 sure got better low end torq and power la bro blush.gif

why not take 2.0 compared to 1.8?
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Because it's the same price range. tongue.gif Money talks.


Added on September 7, 2011, 9:40 pm
QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 7 2011, 08:23 PM)
wah you got savvy wan ar.. just notice.. last time got one fanatic called savvybaby..  laugh.gif
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Wah, u also know that guy...he used to be active in the old motor trader forum i think...talk one kind one...like talking to himself...sounds like orang gila....*cringe*...memalukan all savvy owners.

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Sep 7 2011, 07:02 PM)
Who the FUCUK troll-ed this shit in??

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IP Address -> 175.145.121.52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Forte

Just because it isn't interlinked, doesnt mean its not used in the Forte doh.gif

and here

http://www.nazakia.com.my/sedans/forte-6-s.../specifications
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hahahaha
see wiki kena troll

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post Sep 7 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Sep 7 2011, 11:21 PM)
hahahaha
see wiki kena troll

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must be someone from this tered...
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post Sep 8 2011, 01:55 AM

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Forte 1.6 SX
NEW = 81,000 2nd VALUE : 60-65K (1 YEAR)
Interest Rate = 2.8
- service cost = very expensive = sum for 6 years = RM2000 - RM3000
- 5 years warranty

depreciation ~ 15- 20% /year MAX


http://www.mudah.my/Naza+Forte-10530600.htm?last=1

64k? still no one wanna buy it!

1 month advertisement.. still no buyer

INSPIRA 1.8
NEW = 85,000 REBATE = 4000 RM81k
Interest Rate 2.8

- Free service A to Z until 60k km!! (save around RM2k)
- Warranty A to Z 5 years!

2nd VALUE dont know.. no one sell it !!!! if sell it.. for sure used car will buy it at higher price!...
if there is no one sell it, the 2nd value car will be sure high!

you to decide!

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post Sep 8 2011, 01:57 AM

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sry, calculation wrong...hehe
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QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 8 2011, 01:57 AM)
sry, calculation wrong...hehe
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which one ye brO.. maybe can edit some part.. sweat.gif
also newbies on this area
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 8 2011, 01:59 AM)
which one ye brO.. maybe can edit some part..  sweat.gif
also newbies on this area
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He not mentioned to your post. Just belek2 few page back and see his calculation about FC.
That's the part that he wrong smile.gif
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 8 2011, 01:55 AM)
Forte 1.6 SX
NEW = 81,000 2nd VALUE : 60-65K (1 YEAR)
Interest Rate = 2.8
- service cost = very expensive = sum for 6 years = RM2000 - RM3000
- 5 years warranty

depreciation ~ 15- 20% /year MAX
http://www.mudah.my/Naza+Forte-10530600.htm?last=1

64k?  still no one wanna buy it!

1 month advertisement.. still no buyer

INSPIRA 1.8
NEW = 85,000 REBATE = 4000  RM81k
Interest Rate 2.8

- Free service A to Z until 60k km!! (save around RM2k)
- Warranty A to Z 5 years!

2nd VALUE dont know.. no one sell it !!!! if sell it.. for sure used car will buy it at higher price!... 
if there is no one sell it, the 2nd value car will be sure high!

you to decide!
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Yeap agree with you bro.Forte 2nd hand value is teruk.They can advertise 70k for 1 year old car,but if nobody buy where they gonna get their money from? laugh.gif laugh.gif

OBTW,so fast people selling off their FORTE already? laugh.gif laugh.gif Just saw a post ,someone selling 2010 Forte 1.6 off for RM 62k..hahaha..so damn cheap. Also,i dont think anyone has bought it yet...


And I thought you guys say resale value not important? Only when you sell ur car ,then only you feel it yea!

Thats why the price keep dropping until its so cheap ,then only can get the interest of some buyers...LOL..

And a 2009 Honda City iVtec is still selling for RM75,000 upwards..Ohmy,I just love JAP cars!

If I hadnt bought my Honda CIty,I would have bought Inspira 2.0.Just love the engine! Fantastic!

This post has been edited by kevin23: Sep 8 2011, 08:03 AM
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post Sep 8 2011, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Sep 8 2011, 07:55 AM)
Yeap agree with you bro.Forte 2nd hand value is teruk.They can advertise 70k for 1 year old car,but if nobody buy where they gonna get their money from?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

OBTW,so fast people selling off their FORTE already?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif Just saw a post ,someone selling 2010 Forte 1.6 off for RM 62k..hahaha..so damn cheap. Also,i dont think anyone has bought it yet...
And I thought you guys say resale value not important? Only when you sell ur car ,then only you feel it yea!

Thats why the price keep dropping until its so cheap ,then only can get the interest of some buyers...LOL..

And a 2009 Honda City iVtec is still selling for RM75,000 upwards..Ohmy,I just love JAP cars!

If I hadnt bought my Honda CIty,I would have bought Inspira 2.0.Just love the engine! Fantastic!
Well to be fair to Forte owners, the lack of interest in buying a 1 yr old 2nd hand car could also be due to fear. Most of the ppl who sell their cars within the first 3 yrs do so because of accidents. That fear is increased especially if its being sold by 2nd hand car dealers instead of direct owners. We will have a better understanding of the Forte resale value once we've passed the 4 year mark since the launch when there are more 2nd hand units up for sale.

Yes the Jap's surely have better resale value. My 2003 Toyota Vios is still going for about RM 42K (original price was RM 74K+) despite being 8 years old. thumbup.gif

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