this thread is so damn crazy & ghey
just bought what you like lorrr....go & test drive what you want...every car have pro & con....some like more on performance.....so like more on style...

the damn truth is lot of uncle & aunties out that bought car only consider in resale value, reliability & FC only....they dont care torque/suspension/brake/or whatsoever

^ Truth.

Test drive both and decide for yourself. If you plan to use the car for around 7 years or more, resale value is not as important as you think.

I was refering to the system of MDPS...not the handling ....

yea....fuel economy might be QUITE good, but nt as good as 'FE' series of Toyota engine or any economical engine in it's class....'GE', 'B series', 'F series' are more to performance....even without VTEC or it's VVT tech, the engine block n design is more for performance type...try compare 16V 4AGE n 16V 4AFE....u shud knw the different, y 4AFE is still 1 of the best economical engine up to now....i had fren uses 4AGE 20V Blacktop stock 6MT vs my old 4AFE 16V 5MT.....cant even b close when comes to FC....

This post has been edited by XionCity: Sep 7 2011, 11:01 AM

if u wan to compare FC like this... u try compare to a diesel la...


i am taking the b-series FC in relative comparison to your much newer 1.6 and 2.0 engine...

the only thing that the b-series will lose out is emission (as it is build and designed in the 90s with the 90s regulation)...



this is what u have mentioned....

Diesel is whole lot different class ald...even name also different....dun compare old vs new la...4AFE's old engine FC anytime outrun MOST of the 1.6 class engine...yes, including mine...

while about the MDPS stuff, is the handling SYSTEM....not the way u handle the car...like those lotus tuned handling stuff...i only refers to the MDPS system vs standard Hydraulic n EPS system...

yup, that's correct. but be too fanatic with what brand u r using also not good

this guy will never learn & understand

Btw, anyone knows what's the average consumption for both cars? Not by paper result, but daily commute experience.
Forte 1.6 and Inspira 1.8 CVT?

On paper, comparing the Inspira 2.0 with the Forte 2.0, the Inspira has 7HP less than the Forte but with 3Nm more torgue.

Spec wise, the Forte wins hands down with its superior safety specs. These additional specs (ESC, TC, side airbags & curtain airbags) are not cheap for sure. So that would explain the additional RM6K in pricing for the Forte.

But overall quality is still unknown. Proton and Kia are known for their quality issues. Its left to be seen whether these new generation cars have really improved or not.

But the Inspira would have a better resale value for sure as its a Proton and also because its sales are much better than the Forte. The Forte sales seem to have dropped further. For the period Jan-July 2011, the Forte sold fewer models compared to even the Toyota Altis.

Actually, max rating hp and torque doesn't really matter much on daily usage.
On real world driving condition, city driving especially, we only need to look range between 2k to 4k rpm. It's not like we're gonna drag race the cars every chance we get.

Back to my question, anyone knows the ave. FC for both cars?

Forte 1.6SX 4Spd : 100% City drive around RM0.11-RM0.13/KM with Shell Fuelsave RON95(max 510KMs per full tank = 48L/50L).... 100% HW with BHP InfinityX2 RON97 around RM0.05-RM0.06/KM....(more than 700KMs....for 100% HW cruise)
as for EX 4spd/6spd n SX 6spd...i dunno, but i assume is a little better than mine...of coz, let engine break-in 1st...(above 5k mileage)..mine clocked 25k mileage ald..

This post has been edited by XionCity: Sep 7 2011, 12:11 PM

Actually it does matter. HP and torque come into question during pickups and climbs not really during highway cruising. If you have lower HP and torque with a heavy car, then you car is gonna be underpowered and this will affect your fuel consumption drastically. This is 1 of the reasons why some high cc (and heavier cars) consume more fuel in city driving.

So if you have a car with a decent power & torque output between 1500-2000cc, you'll get good fuel consumption in city drives.

MAX 510km for 48L
48L (Ron95) = 48 X 1.9 = RM91.20

RM91.20 for 510km = RM 0.18 / KM ....


48L (Ron95) = 48 X 1.9 = RM91.20

RM91.20 for 700km (HW) = RM 0.13 / KM


Where got RM0.11 or RM0.06 / KM .. u tot hybrid meh ..

you cant even calculate properly

^ That's why always use litres / 100km or km / litre for FC.

510km use 48L = RM0.11 ?????

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Added on September 7, 2011, 5:32 pmdoes it matter, can even use MPG if you like, it'll come back to the same thing.. unless dunno how to count.

This post has been edited by ar188: Sep 7 2011, 05:32 PM

I think he might not be wrong ...
His Ron95 cost only RM56.10 for 48L which is .. Rm1.17 per L .. gosh .. tats was 10 years ago pricing .. i remember when i first started driving it was like RM1.10/L

Haiya...just go fuelly lar...

http://www.fuelly.com/car/kia/forte
http://www.fuelly.com/car/proton/inspira

Real world data with real world statistic....the local Kimchi fanboy info where can trust one, count also wrong....

Anyway, as i mentioned many times before, FC depends on where you drive and your driving style. Unless you compare the exact route with two cars on regular basis, it is a futile attempt. If you worry about FC. Just drive a Savvy like i do... (when i want to save fuel...).

This post has been edited by Matrix: Sep 7 2011, 06:01 PM

True ma. The Spectra engine, (unless he means the Spectra5), is not the Gamma engine used in the Forte.

Forte 1.6 is 1591cc, old Spectra is 1594cc.

IINM, the old Spectra engine has some Mitsu genes in it.

I think

Nice Dig. Where's the Forte??? RTFLOL.

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Added on September 7, 2011, 6:45 pmI did give u a Spectra 5 link, need glasses???



This post has been edited by Matrix: Sep 7 2011, 06:46 PM

Who the FUCUK troll-ed this shit in??



IP Address -> 175.145.121.52

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Forte

Just because it isn't interlinked, doesnt mean its not used in the Forte

and here

http://www.nazakia.com.my/sedans/forte-6-s.../specifications

This post has been edited by ericmaxman: Sep 7 2011, 07:02 PM

dude, Gamma engine is not the same as the GEMA engine...wiki it.

the GEMA engines only come with min displacement of 1.8l