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post Dec 28 2010, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Dec 28 2010, 01:13 AM)
1. Q:Why ppl said Inspira is improved Lancer? A:Coz Inspira using 15'' Rim, and Lancer using 18'' Rim, sure Inspira more comfortable, but lack of stability and grip. Improved CVT gearbox, and with more better tuned Handling. That's the reason behind of 'Improved Lancer'. But for what I seen, Lancer in term of QA still better than Inspira ALOT!! My friend owns Lancer EX(Not GT - better version), also better than so called 'Improved Lancer'.
2. Q:Why u said Forte is no better than Lancer? A:I think you got it all wrong. Forte is much more better in QA and even compare with it's BODY!! My Forte kena accident, Front is juz slight damage. But hit is very hard(80km/h vehicle rushing, hitting my accelerating 30km/h speed) damage juz little, thanks to the strong chassis, or else my car will be like OMG!! Totalled!! Another 1 u can ask is Izputra, which uses 2.0 Forte...recently an P1 Iswara hit his Forte butt, surprisingly, P1 Iswara front is gone, can't move, can't start engine. Yet, his Forte butt is juz like nothing!!! Juz like need abit of paint job then back to original. Wanna complain?? If u wan prove :NAZA KIA SC Alor Setar
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Just want to give u some info. When a car bangs another car from behind, usually, the car kena hit , the butt will be minor damage. The car hitting the butt of the car will have more serious damage in front. (Unless maybe Benz bang Kancil lar..).

It doesn't mean ur Forte is super strong.
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post Apr 6 2011, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(kyheng @ Feb 26 2011, 02:30 PM)
Well, prevention are always better than cure....
Like a lot of people also says maintenance free battery last longer than normal acid lead batteries, but at the end, fact proves that it is not...
Anyway, do you smell some butthurted fanboys?
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i dunno about you...but my MF battery in my Savvy last 2 to 3 years i think....Acid Lead batteries can only last long if you do periodical fill up with battery water....for most people...it's very troublesome...especially ladies driver....the last thing they want to do is to open the car bonnet!!! LOL
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post Apr 6 2011, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Apr 6 2011, 11:56 AM)
kyheng again... I'm always impress with your immature comments. Yes maintenance free battery would not last that long so? I prefer maintenance free i don't need to check on the water level and so on. i'm using original PROTON MAINTENANCE FREE BATTERY. 3 years already, still strong. Your water one 3 years only? .... What have you proven?

PPL already promoting maintenance free GearBox then no need replace the gear box oil la you think still so old skool like your WIRA meh. After 5 - 6 years then change car la, not everyone like you stagnant for the rest of your life and stuck with the WIRA until now.
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Yeah...original PROTON MF really good....i remember now...my Savvy battery actually last 3 years!!! That guy said add water only one time in 3 years and battery not die yet??? BS.....
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post Apr 6 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(kyheng @ Apr 6 2011, 12:05 PM)
Well, still better than a kid that drive sawi only..... It only last me almost 3 years, because I still need  few months to confirm... Atleast not like you... Read my statement properly first before want to be a screen dumb.....
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Sawi >>>>>>>>> Wira.

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- Korean design exterior
- Renault Engine inside™
- Lotus Ride and Handling (well, maybe not LOTUS, but it's way better than WIRA!)
- Body thicker than all previous Proton car at that point...including Waja (Wira no need to say lar...).
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post Apr 6 2011, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Apr 6 2011, 02:19 PM)
I kinda like Savvy design too, it's like the younger, smaller brother of Satria Neo.
But the price is quite expensive for the car and FC is not good... Better buy Viva...
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Who says FC not good?? I get 14km/l city driving, highway can go up to 19km/l!!!! It's one of the most fuel efficient compact cars around.

VIVA?? doh.gif It's piece of junk!!! I've test drive 4 VIVAs before i bought the Savvy.

Seriously, even Myvi loses to Savvy. I drive both... Ron Jeremy is right...Myvi is for people to drive with a long face....can't argue.... tongue.gif VIVA lagi longer face i guess....

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post Apr 6 2011, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Apr 6 2011, 02:33 PM)
Don't lah cucuk until like that, me Wira owner feel sakit leh tongue.gif
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Sorry yah...not meant at you...but that guy simply tok cok....i seriously do not believe any Acid Battery can survive 3 years without adding battery water. Either he seldom use his car or his mechanic top up water for him when he go service the car without him knowing...LOL.

Added on April 6, 2011, 2:36 pm
QUOTE(mutt @ Apr 6 2011, 02:26 PM)
hi mr know-it-all icon_rolleyes.gif

wow.. I'm offended as a sawy owner laugh.gif

i think your wira also need to refuel once in every 3 year. notworthy.gif
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Maybe his mum refill the fuel for him while he was sleeping...LOL.

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post Apr 7 2011, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Apr 7 2011, 11:24 AM)
Sorry, I dint meant FC is not good. It is very good, just not as good compared to Viva. Viva can easily go 17km/l city drive. (My car average 10km/l only. 8km/l city drive T_T)
But of course Savvy looks nicer compared to viva and myvi. For me, myvi look like girls car, Savvy look like machoman's car.
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Not everyone get's that figure. Depends where you drive. I saw most people gets around 14km/l to 15km/l for city drive on the VIVA normally.

Ok, today we argue CocaCola vs Pepsi. I vote CocaCola. tongue.gif (Will add 70+ pages to bodycount!!!)

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post Apr 17 2011, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(seanoys @ Apr 17 2011, 08:43 PM)
Well im driving a forte..so you'll know my answer..hahaha forte has very big boot and spacious interior..whereelse the polo is a small hatchback so it's not so spacious.Honestly if you let me choose I will choose forte 2.0..or the Chevrolet cruze! But end of the day it's up to you..go test drive both cars..vw polo interior is abit too basic for me..whereelse forte and cruze interior is nice and full of wonderful features that can make passengers/friends go WOW SO COOL!! wink.gif
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I don't own forte...but i vote forte 2.0 also between forte and polo. thumbup.gif

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post Apr 23 2011, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(twskola @ Apr 23 2011, 04:17 PM)
you cant really vs both of this car it is from different segment.my opinion is if you buy a forte you will pay tax dude a lot.... you buy inspira you got a bigger segment car and pay no tax that is why the slogan[smart guys get it]and you really pay for what you get compare to forte, you will be still wondering why i paid so much....for a korean car compare to a japanese make
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Inspira is same segment as Forte lar...both are comparable C segment. The price of Forte 2.0 isn't that far off from Inspira 2.0, so question of insane tax like City and Dugong is not an issue. IMO, both cars are good buy...just see which one you like more. The engine in both Inspira comes from the same branch of the World Engine with modification by Hyundai and Mitsubishi to their own version. KIA has improved a lot in the Forte and making waves worldwide...but i believe it's the 2.0 or 2.4cc version that is making the waves...not the local stripped down 1.6 which i feel is pretty underpower after test driving.

I have made a decision to go with Inspira after much dabbling, mainly because i don't trust NAZA support, at least for Proton, their MD DSZ is very out spoken and dedicated to improve Proton and can be contacted in case you have a serious complain. And also i like Proton Ride and Handling™ much better....smile.gif But i actually much prefer the Forte sexy design (except the rear is too high for my liking) over the older Inspira/Lancer exterior outlook.

Both cars are good buy over expensive junk like City and Dugong...seriously!! Whichever you choose, both are good buy!
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post May 19 2011, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(eone @ May 18 2011, 10:10 PM)
I'm in dilemma of choosing this two, My gen2 had been involved in pretty bad  accident, and it really hard to choose which one....
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Depends on your budget lor. But my advice is, don't buy Forte 1.6. Either buy forte 2.0, Inspira 2.0 or Inspiria 1.8.
The forte 1.6 use the old Spectra engine and is pretty underpower.
You should go test drive all these cars before making a decision.
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post May 19 2011, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(underworld @ May 19 2011, 10:21 AM)
bro dont think the forte is using the old spectra  engine. right now the forte has 6 speed definitly not a spectra engine at all
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It's the later spectra engine as stated by ckk125, gearbox and engine is two different thing. You can slap a new gearbox to the same old engine as long as tuned properly....think of it like CPU and GPU...hehe.
Anyway, just test drive it...you'll feel the underpower...forte is too heavy for 1.6cc...like what they did last time with Sephia and Spectra....downgrade to 1.5cc/1.6cc....overseas version was 1.8cc. I believe the Forte versions that is getting the good reviews are 2.0cc and 2.4cc..in US..which also gets 10 years warranty!!!! (No wonder the good reviews!)....why Naza here only give 2 years manufacturer + 3 years EWP?? doh.gif
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post May 19 2011, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(eone @ May 19 2011, 02:53 PM)
Is there any conclusion for this? really need to make decision fast, tested both car edy, pretty same, ispira 1.8 and forte 1.6 feels the acceleration same as my previous car.. or i'm less sensitive sweat.gif
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I dunno about you...1.6 forte seriously lacks response in acceleration, from the moment you step on pedal to getting it moving. 1.8 Inspira has better response from my testing experience. And 1.8 CVT now has promotion 3 years free maintenance (parts + labor). This should make choosing easy....tongue.gif

I suggest you go for Forte 2.0 if you really like Forte, or sure regret later....

What is your previous car anyway???

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QUOTE(kyheng @ May 19 2011, 02:45 PM)
Bad Forte FC.... By Inspira fanboys..... Such statement can carry any weight? I in doubt....... Really in doubt......
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Anybody said bad Forte FC?? I only saw UNDERPOWER. Maybe you need to find dictionary meaning of UNDERPOWER and BAD FC? Two different things yar. But then again..anti Proton fanboys too blinded by hatred and jealousy.... coz still driving 10 years old battered WIRA....tongue.gif

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post May 19 2011, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(kyheng @ May 19 2011, 03:58 PM)
Conclusion? Well, test drive both and decide....
As stated clearly on my sig, if you are the tak apa person that don't mind on the tak apa attitude when having problems with your car soon-to-get, Proton will be great.
But if you mind on after sales service, any brand other than Proton can do....
To choose between 2, in terms of features, Forte will be better choice... Now is Ipad, iPhone connection, Proton still using a 10 year old concept....
If short distance driving and once a blue moon long journey travel, lower cc engines will be better, as they can help on reducing your wallet's burden....
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I think the sig of a troll does not have much credibility lor. 10 years old concept? LOL. True for people still driving 10 years old rusty Wira. nod.gif

Eone: Electronic gadgets are cool and great. But when it breaks, your wallet flys. Personally i think even the Inspira have too many unnessarry stuff like rain detector, auto air cond...(whatever the hell is that, haven't read manual yet!). The only really useful gadget is the auto-cruise, coz this will helps you rest your legs on long journey.

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post May 20 2011, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(kyheng @ May 20 2011, 11:19 AM)
Forgot to add..... Some people want to overtake a Merc CLK or a BMW X5 when speeding of 240km/h with their poor sedan that only can do max of 200km/h..... In such way, sure will be underpower....
But overtake cars that doing 100-110km/h, even my 1.5 Wira also more than enough....
Anyway, I don't use android.....
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LOL. People who has no ideas about cars or what 'UNDERPOWER' means still wanna troll...

Since when 'UNDERPOWER'==MAX TOP SPEED??

Trollz will be trollz.

Too bad some trollz can't even smell the butt of a BMW X5 and see dust only because they can only go 110km/h in their 10 years old Wira.... whistling.gif

Added on May 20, 2011, 11:40 am
QUOTE(eone @ May 19 2011, 08:42 PM)
found out that only 2.0 inspira got auto-cruise, 3 years warranty, 84.5 k, 3% interest, but only for cvt 1.8, not 2.0, is it ok? I just come back from proton edar, submitted all required documents, but still got time to choose which one until I sign the agreement..
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Honestly, if you going for CVT, go for 2.0...worth the 7k difference or so. Btw, you should get at least 1.5k discount from your SA...my white Inspira is RM90K only after discount.

Added on May 20, 2011, 11:44 am
QUOTE(kyheng @ May 19 2011, 10:57 PM)
^Well, if want to say under power, all the sedan cars will be under power, if I want my cars 0-100km/h at 3 seconds.....
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whistling.gif shocking.gif doh.gif biggrin.gif

Trying to twist your way out??? Try harder....LOL.

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post Aug 25 2011, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(kyheng @ Aug 13 2011, 01:44 PM)
Anyway, on second thought, I shall stop fighting with a small boy... Let others to judge what is right and what is wrong.....
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Trolling and flambaiting again?

CMI: Ignore him lar....forever tok cok. sing song, play ding dong...jelly of other's people's new car while he drive rusty Wira.... tongue.gif ....tak malu still hanging around after last time so lanci fighting with mod threaten wanna leave, but STILL HERE!!!
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QUOTE(judgeironfist @ Aug 25 2011, 01:44 PM)
Is forte 2.0 fuel consumption high for urban drive?
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Yes...any 2.0cc car will sucks fuel in city drive....Inspira included....who cares...I love my Inspira!!! thumbup.gif

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post Aug 25 2011, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Aug 25 2011, 08:31 PM)
Not for Altis 2.0 or Focus TDCI  laugh.gif
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Altis FC ain't that hot. TDCI is diesel..how to compare? You might as well compare bicycle. whistling.gif
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post Aug 26 2011, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Aug 26 2011, 09:42 AM)
Why diesel cannot be compared? U still need to pump diesel and run, same like petrol engine car but u pump petrol lah.. Your inspira 2.0 FC sucks doesn't mean all other 2.0 also sucks  laugh.gif
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You obviously have not done enough research on fuel consumption of most cars. Talking to idiots like you is a waste of time. You are comparing a Turbo Diesel car to a NA Petrol car....bah...you won't know the difference anyway. biggrin.gif

Still wants to compare?? How about saving RM30k which can buy you a lot of fuels for many years!!! LOL.

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post Aug 26 2011, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Aug 26 2011, 10:50 AM)
What's so different?? it's still 2.0cc car, a C-segment....doesn't matter Hybrid, Turbo Diesel or NA Petrol or FI Petrol or NA Diesel, all of them still run on 2.0 engine with 4 wheels, spacious C-segment, looks as a proper car......it's still a 2.0L engine car, so wat's big deal abt T.Diesel, NA Petrol, FI Petrol, NA Diesel, Hybrid powered.....we're comparing 2.0L with 2.0L and car with car, we never said any types of cars, what powered them...when all of those need fuels...it can be RON92-99 and Diesel powered(those fuels came with the same petroleum right?? Petronas, Shell etc.)
unless you're comparing 2.0L car with 2.0L motorcycle(IF it ever existed) or others....

Added on August 26, 2011, 10:54 amyou wan the best conclusion for best FC among those classes we mentioned above for 2.0L car??
1st. Focus TDCI
2nd. Altis DVVTi
3rd. Nissan Sylphy
4th onwards, your own choices...

still 1 better?? get PRIUS n INSIGHT lor...
and u wan say say Diesel can't compare right?? I assume PRIUS n INSIGHT is still powered by Petrol?? and why is it better that Focus TDCI?? Think Matrix....
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I think you have gone from respectable Forte owner to overzealous kimchi fanboys....compare all you want. Forte FC isn't any better than an Inspira anyway in city drive. Yawnnn..... biggrin.gif

Added on August 26, 2011, 11:05 am
QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 26 2011, 10:46 AM)
Darn how can comparing a fuel efficience Diesel wth Petrol..soes not amke sense. If can why not put Hybrid engine in as well?..Prius probably haha
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Compare electric car better mah, no need petrol at all....haha.

Back to topic, Inspira vs Forte. Not Hybrid vs petrol vs electric vs NA vs Turbo.

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post Aug 26 2011, 11:31 AM

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Wow...now resort to shouting and vulgarities.....Zzzz...crazy Kimchi fanboi...urghhh...you watch too many violent Korean tv dramas liao...LOL.
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QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 6 2011, 06:06 PM)
so called strip down quality version of lancer = Inspira....i dun think the quality were as good as Lancer EX n Forte....Inspira = cheaplak Lancer wannabe.....I've seen inside Lancer EX n GT, is better than Inspira...more solid than Inspira....nothing good for Inspira except the handling n suspension tuned.....for me, i rather get Lancer over Inspira....but I choose Forte over both coz of bang for bucks value, and QA better than Inspira....n of coz, Inspira 1.8 wins over 1.6 in displacement value....and slightly bigger size...wait 2 c new Elantra/Avante release, Inspira will scream like hell....
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LOL. At least there's less serious problems with the Inspira than the Forte. So many rattling dashboard cases, car pull to left. etc etc.

Really sick of your endless Inspira bashing. Dey, just go drive your Forte if you're so happy about it. No need to rants endlessly how bad your main competitor is... tongue.gif

Your Forte 1.6 sucks shit compares to Inspira 1.8....no power, crap NVH, noisy tyres, slow response...what quality?? I could go on endlessly...and you still using SPECTRA engine... whistling.gif
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