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post Sep 6 2011, 10:06 PM

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post Sep 6 2011, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Sep 6 2011, 08:46 PM)
you are wrong , cmi, because he regret brought his god like forte, but cannot afford to lose the value to sell it , so he just can stay with it, because he cant sell it , so he convince more people to join his pain, hahaha.
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LMAO~ notworthy.gif

BTW, people who choose Forte over the Inspira should just because of the Potong badge or the bad memories from Potong~ Or simply just wanna avoid of buying Potong...again..maybe~

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post Sep 6 2011, 10:28 PM

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cant believe till today this topic still going on..walau..if u like forte just get it la, if u like inspira just get it..test drive both, see what you like, suit your needs, go ahead.

I chose forte because i love the styling and the gadgets that come with it. I would chose inspira if i'm into a more performance oriented car which I'm not too into that, so i chose forte. I dont regret choosing forte at all because I never even considered inspira tongue.gif

In any case, everyone has their reasons for buying forte or inspira, just test drive both, decide and be done with it. No need for wars like this...
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post Sep 6 2011, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Sep 6 2011, 12:48 AM)
erm forte 2.0 got eaten by the lancer 2.0, sad to say the heavier lancer won....
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forte 2.0 lost to lancer 2.0?
really bo hmm.gif

by looking at the Forte & Inspira fact sheet, Forte 2.0 claimed the 0-100 is 9.8s and inspira is 10.5s.

clear enough to say that pick up inspira is already loose to forte, mid to high end lagi no need to mention more liao la whistling.gif

btw, the overall interior quality of inspira is much more cheapskate than forte, the sound of door close is not as solid as forte, look at the dashboard...so boring...look at the radio and power window switch... doh.gif almost same like wira laugh.gif

moreover, i hate the CVT gearbox, so laggy when driving at city or pick up, it just only powerful when u floor it and hold the max output of torq but end up with high FC wink.gif

still love the conventional auto gearbox, like DSG wub.gif but forte 6 speed also not bad, silky smooth and responsive and wisely spread of torq at all range of speed thumbup.gif

Vote to FORTE !!!:peace:
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post Sep 6 2011, 10:49 PM

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looks at the vote.. we knows which one is better.. no need to said this car is more good bla2.. majority wins..
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post Sep 6 2011, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 6 2011, 09:59 PM)
Your source?? Your statement shows nothing related to Forte neither.

Here:

http://kiaspectra5.blogspot.com/2009/06/g4...nformation.html

G4FC 1.6 I believe this is the same engine in the Forte 1.6

Well, if you have more source to prove otherwise, feel free to post.

Anyway, it still sucks bad compared to Inspira 1.8...new or old... biggrin.gif
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Gamma_engine

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QUOTE(ferrari38 @ Sep 6 2011, 10:41 PM)
forte 2.0 lost to lancer 2.0?
really bo hmm.gif

by looking at the Forte & Inspira fact sheet, Forte 2.0 claimed the 0-100 is 9.8s and inspira is 10.5s.

clear enough to say that pick up LANCER is already loose to forte, mid to high end lagi no need to mention more liao la whistling.gif

btw, the overall interior quality of LANCER and EVO X is much more cheapskate than forte, the sound of door close is not as solid as forte, look at the dashboard...so boring...look at the radio and power window switch... doh.gif almost same like wira laugh.gif

moreover, i hate the CVT gearbox, so laggy when driving at city or pick up, it just only powerful when u floor it and hold the max output of torq but end up with high FC wink.gif

still love the conventional auto gearbox, like DSG wub.gif but forte 6 speed also not bad, silky smooth and responsive and wisely spread of torq at all range of speed thumbup.gif

Vote to FORTE !!!:peace: 
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post Sep 6 2011, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Sep 6 2011, 10:53 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Gamma_engine

You rather trust a blog than Wikipedia?

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bro, this 1 wrong la..forte 1.6's engine doesnt come with dual cvvt.

plus, forte wasnt listed in the car's usage there

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post Sep 6 2011, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(ferrari38 @ Sep 6 2011, 10:41 PM)
forte 2.0 lost to lancer 2.0?
really bo hmm.gif

by looking at the Forte & Inspira fact sheet, Forte 2.0 claimed the 0-100 is 9.8s and inspira is 10.5s.

clear enough to say that pick up inspira is already loose to forte, mid to high end lagi no need to mention more liao la whistling.gif

btw, the overall interior quality of inspira is much more cheapskate than forte, the sound of door close is not as solid as forte, look at the dashboard...so boring...look at the radio and power window switch... doh.gif almost same like wira laugh.gif

moreover, i hate the CVT gearbox, so laggy when driving at city or pick up, it just only powerful when u floor it and hold the max output of torq but end up with high FC wink.gif

still love the conventional auto gearbox, like DSG wub.gif but forte 6 speed also not bad, silky smooth and responsive and wisely spread of torq at all range of speed thumbup.gif

Vote to FORTE !!!:peace: 
just my 2cents sweat.gif
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hahaha
please la....
this is a well known secret drag between both the club members la... and they are having it again soon... real soon...

figure on paper is nothing... it is bias towards selling point... sales person can use it to sell...
125HP on a 1.6 but when being driven hard, it dont feel like it has 125HP.. it felt much lesser than that (4-spd or 6-spd even)
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actually if the inspira has other badge than proton, trust me ppl will worship it..
because at the end of the day its the brand that counts...

if lets say this Forte is from toyota or honda, i can tell u upfront that it will be worshiped like mad..
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even the 2.0 forte is nothing much to shout about when it comes to power wise...
a 1.6 non-vvt engine with manual tranny can easily keep up with a 2.0 forte....

spec wise... at RM 100k region... no car can come close to what the forte 2.0 has on its list...
there is only one choice at that price bracket...

This post has been edited by kcng: Sep 6 2011, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(astina18 @ Sep 6 2011, 10:18 PM)
LMAO~  notworthy.gif

BTW, people who choose Forte over the Inspira should just because of the Potong badge or the bad memories from Potong~ Or simply just wanna avoid of buying Potong...again..maybe~
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but i can assure you this times is different, when my dad purchase this car , thinking don't wan proton anymore , cause already from iswara > wira > waja, most of them a lot rattling sound, but after test drive vios city inspira,take proton again, why? its value for money and most important you see it in real life and drive it , you will think " ah... this time proton done a great job on assemble job, very well built on inspira".
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QUOTE(taylorskaki @ Sep 5 2011, 11:56 AM)
Lol Im sure it's a malfunction of parts or steering cos the car suddenly goes right to hit d divider.. Lol I ask u la if u driving 160++ will u play around wit ur steering? Turning left suddenly u go turn right?? Lol..
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Forte 1.6 handling sucks bro... test drive inspira urself... forte handling really sucks.. even my friends who own forte said 120 - 140km/h handling very bad!
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Sep 6 2011, 10:53 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Gamma_engine

You rather trust a blog than Wikipedia?

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dude... wikipedia is not always "the truth"
u should know right?

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post Sep 7 2011, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 7 2011, 12:58 AM)
Forte 1.6 handling sucks bro... test drive inspira urself... forte handling really sucks.. even my friends who own forte said 120 - 140km/h handling very bad!
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we nv said Forte handling bad....if Forte's handling system for 2.0, yes is good, coz under MDPS....even Civic n Altis oso lose to Inspira lo....the cars that can win are : FD2R n Ford Focus....gd luck Inspira, go vs both those cars....i bet 99.9% it lose to savvy n persona n gen2 n satria neo oso...handling perhaps might be 'bad' in ur case....but car still very stable...even my 1.6 @ 182km/h oso stable...car no wooble2....


Added on September 7, 2011, 1:35 am
QUOTE(kcng @ Sep 7 2011, 12:13 AM)
hahaha
please la....
this is a well known secret drag between both the club members la... and they are having it again soon... real soon...

1. figure on paper is nothing... it is bias towards selling point... sales person can use it to sell...
125HP on a 1.6 but when being driven hard, it dont feel like it has 125HP.. it felt much lesser than that (4-spd or 6-spd even)

smile.gif

actually if the inspira has other badge than proton, trust me ppl will worship it..
because at the end of the day its the brand that counts...

if lets say this Forte is from toyota or honda, i can tell u upfront that it will be worshiped like mad..
smile.gif

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2. even the 2.0 forte is nothing much to shout about when it comes to power wise...
a 1.6 non-vvt engine with manual tranny can easily keep up with a 2.0 forte....

spec wise... at RM 100k region... no car can come close to what the forte 2.0 has on its list...
there is only one choice at that price bracket...

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1. 1.6 under 17'' rims, while 1.8 under 15/16'' rims....whose is lighter?? think la....try change to 15'' rims n c.....i bet 100% u can feel the true power of 1.6 engine.....is juz same theory as current Proton Exora, big body, small engine....
2. u can't compare the non-vvt engine with 2.0 engine of Forte....like u r comparing Ferrari to Kancil.....
think la.....1 is pure performance engine, another is economical....let me ask u la...B16A/B or 4AGE series engine or SR16DE engine....do their FC can b as gd as Forte 2.0's engine??? think la.....if u wan compare like dat....as well i get RX7/8 1.3 engine to tapao ur 1.6 engine.....wan??


Added on September 7, 2011, 1:38 am
QUOTE(ferrari38 @ Sep 6 2011, 11:41 PM)
forte 2.0 lost to lancer 2.0?
really bo hmm.gif

by looking at the Forte & Inspira fact sheet, Forte 2.0 claimed the 0-100 is 9.8s and inspira is 10.5s.

clear enough to say that pick up inspira is already loose to forte, mid to high end lagi no need to mention more liao la whistling.gif

btw, the overall interior quality of inspira is much more cheapskate than forte, the sound of door close is not as solid as forte, look at the dashboard...so boring...look at the radio and power window switch... doh.gif almost same like wira laugh.gif

moreover, i hate the CVT gearbox, so laggy when driving at city or pick up, it just only powerful when u floor it and hold the max output of torq but end up with high FC wink.gif

still love the conventional auto gearbox, like DSG wub.gif but forte 6 speed also not bad, silky smooth and responsive and wisely spread of torq at all range of speed thumbup.gif

Vote to FORTE !!!:peace: 
just my 2cents sweat.gif
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nice 1....


Added on September 7, 2011, 1:38 am
QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 6 2011, 11:49 PM)
looks at the vote.. we knows which one is better.. no need to said this car is more good bla2.. majority wins..
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both results are very close......i dun think that is good choice, if far apart, yes...but very close result indeed

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 7 2011, 01:28 AM)
1. 1.6 under 17'' rims, while 1.8 under 15/16'' rims....whose is lighter?? think la....try change to 15'' rims n c.....i bet 100% u can feel the true power of 1.6 engine.....is juz same theory as current Proton Exora, big body, small engine....
2. u can't compare the non-vvt engine with 2.0 engine of Forte....like u r comparing Ferrari to Kancil.....
think la.....1 is pure performance engine, another is economical....let me ask u la...B16A/B or 4AGE series engine or SR16DE engine....do their FC can b as gd as Forte 2.0's engine??? think la.....if u wan compare like dat....as well i get RX7/8 1.3 engine to tapao ur 1.6 engine.....wan??
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1) Rims is not much of a big factor, it is the auto slushbox that is the main culprit as well as the lower displacement. Well if you compare nicely, power to weight ratio with a CVT 1.8 Inspira, The Forte still has better power to weight ratio, the CVT Inspira might have avg 8-10whp more but it can be easily canceled out due to its sheer weight but why still lose, blame the slushbox.

2) What kcng was refering to is the real world performance (doesn't need to be the B series, 4AGE or SR16DE), not on paper and definitely not regarding the engine's fuel consumption. Newer engines with newer technology of course will be more fuel economical. If you wanna compare FC, go take the old 13B rotary and cry

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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Sep 6 2011, 10:28 PM)
cant believe till today this topic still going on..walau..if u like forte just get it la, if u like inspira just get it..test drive both, see what you like, suit your needs, go ahead.

I chose forte because i love the styling and the gadgets that come with it. I would chose inspira if i'm into a more performance oriented car which I'm not too into that, so i chose forte. I dont regret choosing forte at all because I never even considered inspira tongue.gif

In any case, everyone has their reasons for buying forte or inspira, just test drive both, decide and be done with it. No need for wars like this...
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I agreed....but some Kimchi fanboy never say die...every thread also need to say how godly the Forte is...not sianz meh??? ZZzzz.....
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Sep 7 2011, 08:40 AM)
1) Rims is not much of a big factor, it is the auto slushbox that is the main culprit as well as the lower displacement. Well if you compare nicely, power to weight ratio with a CVT 1.8 Inspira, The Forte still has better power to weight ratio, the CVT Inspira might have avg 8-10whp more but it can be easily canceled out due to its sheer weight but why still lose, blame the slushbox.

2) What kcng was refering to is the real world performance (doesn't need to be the B series, 4AGE or SR16DE), not on paper and definitely not regarding the engine's fuel consumption. Newer engines with newer technology of course will be more fuel economical. If you wanna compare FC, go take the old 13B rotary and cry
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what is the kurb weight of the forte 1.6?

real world performance, the cvt will allow the 1.8 inspira to maintain at 6k rpm and the 4 speeder will be constantly hovering at 4-6k rpm. that performance loss is worse.

here are the comparison for the 4b10 and the gamma 1.6 cvvt torque curve. i think we can see which has more torque at lover revs is better for town driving.

look at 2k rpm, which most of us will be at in town

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The Forte should be around 1.2 tonnes IIANM
The Inspira is around the 1.3tonne range

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QUOTE(astina18 @ Sep 6 2011, 07:14 PM)
Two of the poor thing inside the inspira is the Clarion headunit and that piece of black/greyish plastic on the steering wheel airbag cover.
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If anyone can remove the "piece of black/greyish plastic on the steering wheel airbag cover." i'll pay him to do it, and i'll buy inspira biggrin.gif the steering is so good looking, spoilt by the black/grey plastic, lol


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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Sep 6 2011, 11:58 PM)
Forte 1.6 handling sucks bro... test drive inspira urself... forte handling really sucks.. even my friends who own forte said 120 - 140km/h handling very bad!
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well, handling at 120-140km/h? we are in ferrari/GTR thread?

wow.....a family saloon wants handling above speed limit? erm, there are evos and subarus you know?

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 7 2011, 01:28 AM)
we nv said Forte handling bad....if Forte's handling system for 2.0, yes is good, coz under MDPS....even Civic n Altis oso lose to Inspira lo....the cars that can win are : FD2R n Ford Focus....gd luck Inspira, go vs both those cars....i bet 99.9% it lose to savvy n persona n gen2 n satria neo oso...handling perhaps might be 'bad' in ur case....but car still very stable...even my 1.6 @ 182km/h oso stable...car no wooble2....


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1. 1.6 under 17'' rims, while 1.8 under 15/16'' rims....whose is lighter?? think la....try change to 15'' rims n c.....i bet 100% u can feel the true power of 1.6 engine.....is juz same theory as current Proton Exora, big body, small engine....
2. u can't compare the non-vvt engine with 2.0 engine of Forte....like u r comparing Ferrari to Kancil.....
think la.....1 is pure performance engine, another is economical....let me ask u la...B16A/B or 4AGE series engine or SR16DE engine....do their FC can b as gd as Forte 2.0's engine??? think la.....if u wan compare like dat....as well i get RX7/8 1.3 engine to tapao ur 1.6 engine.....wan??
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dude....
MDPS (Power steering) wont help nuts in handling la....

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u can even bring that out

really have to give u this
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btw non-vvt engine dont meant performance
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it basically meant the engine belongs to the old tech category
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do u know that a b16a/b16b engine can be very economical if u do not engage vtec at all?
i think u seriously need to look at a bigger picture la...

i have a good friend who used to have a b16 engine and without v-tec on, his fuel economy can be say quite good...
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