the price ald lowered alot compare with Lancer GT which cost RM13xxxx
why the price lowered if the QA same as lancer GT?

lancer euro ncap rating

http://www.euroncap.com/results/mitsubishi...11-b37f9369f2f7

however no forte result as the car is not sold in europe.
http://www.pakwheels.com/forums/attachment...listupdate1.jpg

lol...got so big difference meh??
my fren which owns a Lancer EX current model, compare with Inspira, said Inspira quality nt dat gd compare with his lower specs lancer EX...
same feel as interior

dunno.. forte only have NHTSA crash official result

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Added on November 17, 2010, 2:56 pm

btw this is lancer NCAP full review.

hard to compare coz forte is missing from EuroNCAP rating. only got lancer.
same goes to NHTSA (US rating), only have forte rating and lancer rating is not available.

proton? should be the same with lancer i guess

just bear in mind that the rating for both EuroNCAP and NHTSA is for high end model.
for forte, applicable for 2.0SX and above. same goes to Lancer/Inspira.

Audi has all gearbox u wish for. DSG, conventional autogearbox, manual and CVT. Depends on the model and specs u opt for.
not sure about lancer but i know a stock lancer on the dynojet machine make 114whp on the wheel from 155hp on engine while the old jazz make around 85 to 90whp on the wheel from 109hp on engine. so u go figure.

About the 125WHP from 155hp of the Lancer 2L Civic is correct I witness it
Same for the Lancer as well....around 114-116WHP stock

Yeah lah, Gouki was mentioning about that way earlier also so I just confirm it la

Kia Forte vs Jazz VTEC CVT
stock to stock


Blue is Forte (NCK 83*)
Red is Jazz (WPL323*)



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which u mean.... inspira is mivec but is proton tunning d, so gg.com like the old mitsu engine in proton cars. eg wira n saga....

seriously if wan go for value for money, forte yes ! better den city, fiesta, vios... bcoz of its functionality.... but not performance vice n parts vice.....

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Added on November 29, 2010, 2:36 am

so? which better? how to c?

1. Q:Why ppl said Inspira is improved Lancer? A:Coz Inspira using 15'' Rim, and Lancer using 18'' Rim, sure Inspira more comfortable, but lack of stability and grip. Improved CVT gearbox, and with more better tuned Handling. That's the reason behind of 'Improved Lancer'. But for what I seen, Lancer in term of QA still better than Inspira ALOT!! My friend owns Lancer EX(Not GT - better version), also better than so called 'Improved Lancer'.
2. Q:Why u said Forte is no better than Lancer? A:I think you got it all wrong. Forte is much more better in QA and even compare with it's BODY!! My Forte kena accident, Front is juz slight damage. But hit is very hard(80km/h vehicle rushing, hitting my accelerating 30km/h speed) damage juz little, thanks to the strong chassis, or else my car will be like OMG!! Totalled!! Another 1 u can ask is Izputra, which uses 2.0 Forte...recently an P1 Iswara hit his Forte butt, surprisingly, P1 Iswara front is gone, can't move, can't start engine. Yet, his Forte butt is juz like nothing!!! Juz like need abit of paint job then back to original. Wanna complain?? If u wan prove :




That's Izputra's Forte butt and that P1 Iswara






That's mine Forte front

Prove ur Lancer and Inspira toughness....or better if u all wan 2 compare...these photos are real. Photoshots at NAZA KIA SC Alor Setar

Hmm are sure? About ride the Forte is way better than the stiff lancer.

Handling wise, go read reviews, most american automobile reviews said the Forte is quite good.
Of course it wouldnt be on par with Civics and most Multi link suspension vehicles. also, inspira uses a 16 inch tyre, not 15.

But lancer has good ride? not quite. Handling wise i think Civic is the best in the class.

toughness is not good?? crumples = death!! or cost more money 2 repair...at least...that's the noobest and lamest post i've ever seen

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Added on December 28, 2010, 10:27 am
if u sure like that, try hit iswara with iswara.....i bet front of the 1st iswara and rear of the victim's iswara, definitely gone.....trust me, i've been hit by behind for like 3 times ald, while driving my old toyota..and also avanza
hv 2 replace whole thing bhind...

juz wan mentioned, go for Top Gear, to see the review of Proton cars, and KIA cars....proton rating 0 and KIA at least got 5..
Proton featured : Neo, Gen2 and Savvy, P2 will b Kenari, Kelisa and Myvi
KIA got alot(Forte not included, but new sportage and soul included too)

well, u all dig up the old thread again, which i dun wan even read or hear it....tired of all these arguments...

there will be no prediction on resale value....only will know when the time comes....
another thing is, that proton is probably year 2004 or above....that's y so high...
spectra might be in year 2002...same goes with aveo
depend on wat year, and dun follow the price sold by people or 2nd hand shop.
if u really wanna know abt resale value, try ask them, how much would they take in for those models(buy directly from buyer's price)
not selling price....coz, they can put wateva price they wan....
and also, judge on the quality of the car, whether it needed alot of maintenance or repairs, or juz buy and use without much maintenance or repairs
there are alot of things to look into, for resale value....u can't expect a VIOS 05 sells at RM5xk if needed repair alot, right?? the value of the car will drop too(become price like no resale value)....
paint job, anti-rust, check for accident free cars, also does concern in resale value....if that car like VIOS 05 got accident 1 or 2 times, the resale value will drop too....

so, in my last words, u can't judge resale value price base on wat u see in 2nd hand car shop....there are ALOT of things 2 consider b4 selling price came out.....

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Added on January 3, 2011, 1:19 am
Inspira got 4 spd only.....yet, Forte this year ald got 6 speed...
advantages of conventional autogearbox, u can feel the acceleration power of it, while disadvantage of it is, u feels jerkiness when changing gears(not more modern CAGB anymore)
advantages of CVT autogearbox, u can feel smooth acceleration of the gears without feeling any jerks while changing gears, while disadvantage of it is, not as powerful as CAGB...
advantages of DCG autogearbox, uses in Fiesta, VW and audi, u can feel the advantages of both CAGB and CVTAGB, disadvantage of it is maintenance and cost, way HIGHER than CVTAGB and CAGB....
Now modern cars with 1.6 above ald had sports mode(a.k.a. tiptronic, shiftronic, sport mode) juz only Fiesta dun hv....that's 1 of the disadvantages of Fiesta....

If base on past experience, i wont even consider Inspira cause PROTON let me REGRET like the Perdana... But i still open my mind thinking inspira will be different.. but.... PROTON is PROTON. for reseller value, i just don't care because instead of worry about how much your car worth when u sell it, why not focus on earn more money??

Please do let me know which branch you went to and can' book an appointment ...
just Service my car today and got my car out in less than 2 hour, done with alignment,  full service, tyre rotating ....
So if you have thing to post, please post thing with evidence and not a blant  statement without any proof

Just tell us which branch let's make a call to book for service

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Added on January 24, 2011, 9:33 pmFor new buyer the 6 speed auto is a great thing to have but more tender care have to be taken... else  history will repeat itself -> City Gear Box issue

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Added on January 24, 2011, 9:40 pm
Yah is more of a personal preference, some prefer to take some risk , while some will take in features as consideration, while alot give a passes to local brands and opted for T & H even it is a smaller segment vehicle...

It was quite a good example you have given on Korean cars, as for Proton you will cry if you have purchase Perdana, Waja at time it is one of the cheapest 2.0 car while another Lancer copy.

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Added on January 24, 2011, 9:48 pmFORTE - > quite proven around the world, local content is minimal

Inspira -> Lancer is well proven around the world, but with increasing local content how will it perform we have to see.

On service I still see more of tak apa attitude from Proton - It is proton quality la what you exect sound familiar ?, so far Naza had place a good effort thou there's a few bad apples. Proton more branches.

Expertise in solving complex issue, I think both fair quite the same, One need advice from Jap another from Kr.

Spare parts definitely Inspira would have more... but major parts like gear box might need to wait as well, unless recon units

So make your judgement

my point is no matter how high/low resale value is, at the end of the day depend on ur bank account whether you can afford to buy another car. T/H/N car maybe have good resale value and may give you extra money like 20K maybe, but if i dont like the T/H/N driving experience, extra money for after 3-5 years sell it just won't enough compensate my mentally tortured by T/H/N car IF i don't like.  Buying a car is not investment anyway.

the reason of CHEAP, is bcoz NAZA OWNS KIA...same, REBADGE..thus the price drops. in anyway, definitely both of them have lower resale value than others, coz of REBADGE...