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This post has been edited by fifi85: Oct 7 2010, 09:58 PM

Reporting in v3 !

This post has been edited by franklooi96: Oct 7 2010, 06:15 PM

Should be v3.

Reporting for duty. V3.

I'm contacting the mods to see whether there's anyway we can find out the top contributors for the past two editions

For the Temp version.


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franklooi, how u get those number? u count 1 by 1?

No lol.

There's an implanted function in the forum.

Oh. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I didn't know that

Crap. I need to spam more HAHAHAHAHAHA!

oh cool i didnt know that function

Reporting in...

gila banyaknya sia spam. haha.

ya.. drumma semua spamma

wow, a new thread!
I'm in!

Apparently my highest post count in a thread is 400.

In SNSD thread?

HAHAHAHAHAHA! About 1/2 of my posts (not counting the ones that I did in Audio and Accesories) were made here

ANYWAY... Since we seem to just be hanging around and doing nothing...

Here's something for you guys to discuss


ELECTRIC DRUM vs ACOUSTIC DRUM.

1. For live shows
2. For under 3k budget
3. For unlimited budget.

Which would you choose?

Reporting in for v3!

Isaaac,

Definitely acoustic drums! Definitely good for shows (like duh haha). Under 3k budget? Should be able to get some descent stuff. FOR UNLIMITED BUDGET? OH BABY! HAHAHAHA

If no limitations acoustic drums will be the best for everything. Maybe in recording electronic drums can make it easier.

The only reason I would choose to use elctronic drums is because of complains from others. If no complains will go acoustic all the way.

Number 1, Electric drums for live shows just don't make it.

Unless you're on a Roland TD-20 which is RM 30k, number 2.

For number 3, there's still higher grades acoustic drums like DW/Ludwig/etc that can beat Electric drums flat.



I've seen this drum kit before.

Forgotten who's though.

1. Acoustic definitely for live shows, no?

2. RM3k budget.... I'd get myself a used set, maybe an old Tama Swingstar for about RM1.5k and get used Iron Cobras...RM600 and cymbals, get a Stagg promo set or the Sabian Recycled series

3. And if it was an unlimited budget, obviously I'd go for an acoustic set Maybe a Tama Warlord Limited Edition set But if I were to go for an electric set, I'd pick either the Roland TD20KX or the Yamaha DTXtreme III I've played the Yamaha before and it feels so...so... good. HAHAHAHA

But of course, the best thing would be to mesh it together

Anyway, I'm thinking of getting a TD-9 module... Then placing it on a practice pad kit and shifting it around my set Your thoughts?

This post has been edited by isaacmiranda7: Oct 8 2010, 06:41 PM

Yup. Its Disturbed drum kit. What SNSD song u playing now?


Electric kit can also play live but its just not cool enough. Not the quality problem or anything.

How much is the Yamaha? Is it same level as TD20?

There is this feeling difference, sound hearing feeling difference, and appearance difference IMO.

You mean what song I want to cover?


That's of course worth some effects if you have extra plugs.

And bold part: QFT.

I think its really vital to use an acoustic set for live shows. Very sure that an electric drum will deliver good sound quality? But, i believe the acoustic set, gives it more kick and life. So i very much believe live shows need acoustic sets to give the performance a live-lier feel.

Just my thought.

U need a separate monitor if you play live with e drum

eh u not playing any snsd song currently? then what snsd song u 1 play?

Well, then your thoughts on the Pearl ePro? Looks and feels like an acoustic drumset


Very true

Even if you play live with an acoustic set you need monitors...

But personally when I play live I prefer using in-ear monitors More focused.. Of course. That is, if everything is mic-ed up lah

Mm might want to practice more timing and create more rolls/fills first for now.


Never tried one. Bro you got your hands on it edi?

Pearl e pro sounds good. But i think it will be expensive. Not sure how it compares to td20. If can put more trigger and not so expensive i might get it. Need see review first also la

My ideal drum kit will be 1 snare, 1 bass, 3 toms, 1 floor, 2 crash, 1 ride, 1 china, 1 splash, and 1 hat... Im very simply no need so many funky stuff... But now max trigger for electric i think is 12 trigger only not enuff

No one says you must have a full electric drum kit.

You may buy the Pearl ePro and then add acoustic drums.


Fulamak money well spent.

This post has been edited by franklooi96: Oct 8 2010, 11:40 PM

cannot la.. 1 do recording time acoustic and electric cannot mix how r

And main prob wif acoustic is the noice kacau ppl. if dun kacau ppl i already forget about electric

Condo cannot play acoustic ka?

I'm stay terrace and when I play, the room next to my room can only hear abit.

Down stairs hear nothing.

I use electric drum for a show last year in Cherating. It took me around 30 minutes for drum setup and sound check. Plus, I don't have to get my brother's van for transportation. Compare to my previous setup...
Furthermore, I can switch the sound in my preset list using foot switch ie after playing Beatles, I can switch the sound to Bee Gees then switch to A.Rahman Hassan.
Talkin about edrum sound for live show, it is common to have drum triggering in live acoustic setup. Especially snare and kick drum.
Too many drummer using the drum trigger to mention. From Jojo Mayer to George Kollias..

Just my opinion

Nope it isn't in Malaysia.

The Pearl E Pro is about RM10k-RM15k if I'm not mistaken
If I do get it eventually, it will will after I purchase a good acoustic set
People say the TD-20 modules do sound more complete and better, but then again, that has been the end product of years, working with keyboards, synths and electronic drums.

Acoustic sound-wise for the Pearl E-Pro vs the Roland TD-20.... Pearl 1, Roland 0 HAHAHAHAHA!


Actually, it's possible. Many drummers do use a mixture of acoustic and electric drumsets.The difference being, the acoustic is triggered into a module or mic-ed and the electric goes through a module before meeting up in the mixer

Well recording with Acoustic is not as complicated as it seem.

U stay double storey different cuz at top.. but then again, u stay terrace beside got neighbour oso they wont complain? Did u use some kind of padding or wat? Can teach me?






yUP I OSO THINK SAME THING... td20 IS past tech and e pro is new stuff... R u sure pearl e pro sound better? Then like dat pearl e pro will definitely better... E pro can change into acoustic also?? 100% same like acoustic with the crash and other stuff real acoustic?

Why is it different?

The storey below you cannot hear you, your neighbour cannot hear you.

And I think the neighbour above you wouldn't complaint too.

So how is your room set up? Your family can hear then they got complain?

When I close my door they cant hear anything from my speaker/drums.

In fact, the room beside mine was only divided with wooden seperators.

Another way some drummers practice is to buy cymbal pads to reduce noise and to stuff cushion/pillow in them toms and bassdrum till full. The sound will be dead flat and have no bounce.

You might say, how to play without bounce? Well, you can learn to bounch your stick with the pull back stroke like > single hit and then you pull back the stick with your last 3 fingers. The more you practice with this method (single, double, triplets, paradiddles strokes and get up to speed, imagine what you can do when you're playing with proper drum skin with bounce.

Some ineresting thing to try if you will. Take a 50 cent coin and place it on the wall. Start hit the coin with your first stick (right hand) while holding the coin with your left hand. Get up to speed and then take another drum stick with your left hand and start hit the coin as well. Not easy but Lewis Paragasm done it before.

Btw, this tip is from Lewis Paragasm.

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Oct 9 2010, 03:47 PM

Oh yeah I stuff pillows in my bassdrum to prevent my walls from shaking.

Maybe there's a tip there.

Mute pads for cymbals, snares is something you might want to try. I don't use them, though.

This post has been edited by franklooi96: Oct 9 2010, 04:06 PM

so weird.. your drum muz soound very soft or u playing softly.. no way close door cannot hear unless your door is like the prison metal door.. take pic

Actually, it's the bounce of a conventional drum that's hard to control. The response of a practice pad is predictable hence easy to get used to.
On a conventional drum, every hit causes waves in the skin which makes the subsequent hits slightly harder to control.
The faster and harder you go, the bigger the inconsistency in bounce from each hit; same goes if both your hands are hitting closer to each other, i.e. hitting the same spot, or at the dead centre where the skin is most flexible.

i find it hard to believe. either they want to jaga ur hati kah or they full blast their tv set to cover up the noises u make.

how is it possible for a "wooden seperators" manage to cover up the monstrous decibels that a drum makes? if it is possible, party2dmax would've get pissed, real pissed. haha.

Some of my friends use acoustic drum for home practice. Their neighbors seems ok with that. Maybe they just dun care.
For me, 200++bpm twin paddle/blast beat on snare will never be quiet.
Try it first.. if nobody throw a kapak to you, then it's fine la. Good luck

haha.. thrown by a kapak is still fine..
burned till bcame ABU is hazardous...

hehe, just joking..

"..party2dmax would've get pissed, real pissed." thingy also the very the lulz too.. haha

I'm using an acoustic set at home. but to jaga my neihgbours' privacy, I only play them during office hours (10am-4pm on weekdays) and no drums on weekends. It's been almost 6 years already, didn't receive any complaints yet.

anyone has tried any Cadeson drum kits before?
I've tried the Lewis Pragasam's signature kit (Glaze series) and their Stadium series before. The Lewis Pragasam's kit is actually the original kit used by him, he left it at TGS Hartamas for a while. His acrylic set is a monster man, very big. Got tone and very punchy, I can say that it is worth buying( RM10K plus). The stadium series (RM3.8K) is quite nice also. The kit's resonance is fantastic. anyone?

play during office hour u no need work?

I'm still studying in a local Uni.
hehehe..

i c.. that an advanatge of being student. better play as much as u can next time work cant get this privilege anymore

Well we never expect it would be so quiet.

I lock my room doors and I hit the drums hard.

I have a king size bed and quite stuffed room though. Not to mention that my drums is near a busy road and there's a wide balcony beside.


Playing soft is not my style.

In fact I play really hard. That if my ear mutes fell off my ears would hurt.

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Added on October 9, 2010, 10:43 pmI'm having afternoon school and it sucks to play before noon and during evening.

This post has been edited by franklooi96: Oct 9 2010, 10:43 PM

Hey guys,wanna ask,I see those drummers in concert usually wear headphones.What are the use of it actually?Protect their ears from loud music?

Metronome/music playing.

in-ear monitors which let's them hear the backing track+other musicians+metronome+communicate with background crew. or it could be either combination of those few.

IEM. a real life saver.

just like the regular monitor that they put up in the stage, except its in ear. lol

zul.z - where u study at? music college too?

for me. im playing from 5-8. makan dinner time. and most of it i just practicing grooves, x bising sgt. haha. and from there onwards, is all on practice pad. 10-12. 1 hour for hand, 1 hour for feet.

but im still sucks at it. haha

edit : http://www.mudah.my/YAMAHA+PHOENIX+DRUM+KI...OOD-7350547.htm

yamah PHX selling for rm12k? cheap oh. haha. i tot this beast would sell for like rm20k++

This post has been edited by brokenbomb: Oct 10 2010, 07:32 AM

E-Pro sounds better than TD-20 acoustically because YES you can change it into an acoustic drumset, and no, the TD-20 can't be changed Personally though.. I find that the TD-20 sounds better.

Yeah... But mute pads defeat the purpose of having a nice setup.
I know a guy in the PDF forums who bought a nine piece, double bass drum Tama Starclassic Bubinga/Birch, complete with Portnoy's Melody Masters and a couple of Warlord snares, just to mute it up.

Ahh... I'm the opposite of you.

My kit is in an office... So I only play way after office hours... 7PM to 12AM anyone?

Yup But drummers who can't AFFORD IEM's... Usually use them just to soften the tone. There's one ear mute in US that allows you to change the level of noise that you hear, more bass, more treble, etc. Not connected to anything... Just switch out one or two parts for something else xD

No lah There was once where Yamaha Malaysia had a clearance sale and let it go for around 50% off.

There is an adjustable pair I see selling in Guitar Collection SS15.

Not sure how it works, though.

Hmm... Any idea on the pricing?

<100.

There's different materials and a control port.

hahaha..that's why laa.. need to practise a lot now before my college years are over.

Owh no lah.. I'm currently doing my bachelor degree in engineering at one "private local uni" (Just to remain anonymous, hahaha)
Not studying music, I only have Rockschool certs in drums and currently working as a part-time drum instructor at one "local music store" (To remain anonymous also,hahaha!)

Btw, just got back from Bentley and JS music. Tried the Ddrum at JS. I was surprised by the price, very reasonable and affordable. Shawn Drover's snare drum is around RM800 plus and Vinnie Paul's Signature around RM1.1K-Rm1.2k. I've tried the Ddrum Duo Maple kit (RM4.5K), the resonance is quite nice. Will put that kit in my wishlist. hehehe.

Went to Bentley to check out the price for the speed cobra. Double pedal is RM1.6K and single pedal is RM750. asked the sales assistant, he said there's no much different between speed cobra and iron cobra, just that for the speed cobra, the board is longer than iron cobra thus the feel is a bit different.

This post has been edited by zul.z: Oct 10 2010, 02:03 PM

Rockschool cert, I'm having lessons under Rockschool too.

Guitar Collection.

which guitar collection?

SS15.

Don't tell me you teach any of their branches?

isaac - ah? damn. haha. one of my favourite drums tu.

btw anything special about ddrum? snare kah hardware ka. haha. aside from their dios series of course. since well. they kan popular with QC issue. hehe. rosak here and there la.

Haha dude i think you got me wrong. I didn't mean to question the sound quality of an edrum. I'm stating that the edrum has good quality, but doesn't have that live-acoustic feel for live shows.

I think 1 take drum class next time but what the difference between someone who take class and dun take class?

Well when you take class you have someone more experienced to guide you, live.

Point out your mistakes, ways to overcome it, etc.

Specialities? Their kits and drum triggers I guess. Yeap, I heard about that before, there are a lot of issues regarding the quality of their drums last time but maybe they have improved now. But their artistes are very well known, carmine appice, dave lombardo, vinnie paul, shawn drover, etc.

franklooi96: No, but I'm planning to switch to Guitar Collection OU later this year (it depends on the availability). The place where I'm teaching now is in Hartamas, a bit far from my house.

This post has been edited by zul.z: Oct 10 2010, 07:47 PM

zul,

how much u charge for your class? how many times a week? how many hrs?

i agree with franklooi. besides, u lebih fokus on ur practice if u study with a teacher. haha

So you graduated Rockschool under Guitar Collection also?

What do you personally think about their syllabus?

Well, I only teach beginners (still new). So the fee is around RM100-RM130, once a week, 30minutes per class. A bit expensive huh? hahaha..But I also teach at my friend's studio, RM80 for beginners and RM90 for Intermediate. 45 minutes per class.

No, I was a TGS student before.

hahaha, don't ask me that question laa, you're asking me like I'm a pro only, I'm still new laa. hahaha. But for me, the syllabus are good but you need to know how to apply it on your drums. For example, the triplet, in the book you need to do it on the snare, but you can also try it on the toms or hi-hats. Eg, 1 (bass drum)-2 (tom) - 3 (tom) or 1 (hi-hat) -2 (hi-hat) -3 (snare).

This post has been edited by zul.z: Oct 11 2010, 11:16 AM

wow a bit expensive for me... once a week 45 mins...

hahaha, ya laa..that's why I don't really encourage people to take any music lessons at music shop or centre, quite expensive. Better take private lesson, much cheaper. Unless you want to take exams, then go to music shop or centre laa. easier, because most of them (like TGS) they have their own place to conduct the exams.

This post has been edited by zul.z: Oct 11 2010, 11:20 AM

not easy to find private. Also not sure how much private charge. Might be more expensive

Mm thought of that, I'm learning from youtube too, the tiger fella.

never tried Cadeson kit before but I love to try one. I've watched LP played in a concert and at that time he is using his signature snare. Sounds awesome. Owh yea, there's a recording studio in PJ (Big A Productions) who also have Cadeson kit available for recording.

Third highest poster? Wow!

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Added on October 11, 2010, 8:45 pmits funny and quite depressing when an unexperienced teacher can charge for that kind of money for 30 minutes, once a week. I still remember my drum teacher who only charge RM100 for 1 hour a week (sometimes 1hour 30mins).

and he was a 8th grader and have alot of experience.

This post has been edited by kari_convention: Oct 11 2010, 08:45 PM

Say guys, for a secondary snare, would you use a regular snare or get a drum pad?

Take a look at this, off CK's site.



The Korg Wavedrum.

You can get standard snare drums, kick sounds, toms, anything from a normal set, followed by tablas, bongos, etc.

I must admit, I'm intrigued. And the sound quality is pretty good too

versatile. y not? haha

Excuse me bro,what do you mean by "unexperienced teacher can charge for that kind of money "? it's not me who set the price for the fee. it's the management of the music school who set it. And do you know how much i get from the fee? You'll be surprised by the little amount that i get from each student (and this is why all the experienced instructors cabut lari and do private lessons). So don't blame me. And that's why I told fifi85 to find a private instructor rather then going to a music centre or shop.

This post has been edited by zul.z: Oct 11 2010, 10:41 PM

white box fixxed

Why not? Since it'll be a secondary snare, it's okay if it's not perfect sounded for one tone, if you can change the tone, it's the best to be called Secondary snare.

And fix'd the youtube link.

i think gonna buy few of those and make a custom e kit

u mean guitar collection 1Utama?? i think they need a teacher now..

yeap, I already asked one of the staff there, and he told me that they are short of instructors. That's why I'm planning to switch there, but have to wait first, coz I need to give a 2 months notice before I quit.

btw, how you know about this?

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Added on October 12, 2010, 9:32 amanyone knows the price for Sonor SQ2 set? I thought it'll be more expensive than this?

http://www.mudah.my/Sonor+SQ2+Vintage+Birc...Eye-7379078.htm

This post has been edited by zul.z: Oct 12 2010, 09:33 AM

The SQ2 is a custom set, maybe this guys used the cheapest options for everything?

But then again, it does seem a bit too low. It's Sonor's top of the range set. I remember checking it out, and they quoted me about US$1000 for a 13' snare, so I doubt this is the real thing. But if it is.... xD

WHERE IS THIS SHOP ANYWAY?

I guess this guy is not from Malaysia, and maybe he wanted to put the price in USD or other currencies but since Mudah is a Malaysian site, the price will automatically be in RM. Hahahaha...

Check this out, http://www.songnetworks.org/sonor-sq2-vint...irds-eye-maple/

or maybe its a scam, coz I still remember last time when I posted my stuff on Mudah, there are few foreigners offering to buy my stuff in USD. The weird think is, I received the same email from different people.

This post has been edited by zul.z: Oct 12 2010, 07:29 PM

I've tried Korg Wavedrum before. Amazing.

Not possible. You're right, definitely not from Malaysia. No place here that deals with Sonor, DW, Pearl, and Sabian under one roof.

Well IMO, I'd stick with real shoplots/LYN.


I'm loving Sonor drums alot now.

New discovery:
http://cgi.ebay.com/YAMAHA-PHOENIX-DRUM-KI...DefaultDomain_0

The same pictures used by the seller on mudah linked by Brokenbomb earlier.

even on ebay, the price is $8250.00

If it is really a scam, maybe this guy just took the pictures randomly on the webs, and post it on Mudah, and wait for people to reply. Later, will ask the buyer to bank in 5%-10% deposit, and buhbye!