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somemore it really depends on the financial situation... even though u knew long run will save you alot more, but now u need dslr so badly, so badly poisoned, but only enuf money to get 60D, instead of 7D or 1d mkIV, then just go for 60D lo.. im sure u will not really regret after getting 60D. its a good camera. i get 500D but not 550D cuz i got really really limited budget that time. and i know i will be upgrading again in the future.. so, its ok lo just learn from 500D since that time i only ahve that amount of money to allow me to buy that model..
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to start the new thread ill post my new baby and photo
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guys, don't spam.
QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 12:29 AM) i understand aspire's situation as well.. but mayb perhaps he don really need the features that 7D body offers yet? like i said previously, im sure most of us will upgrade later.. so he get this one to learn first i guess? after that few years later after he know mroe bout photography and understand his needs, he will upgrade a better one.. the 60D just fits nicely into ppl who have not owned any dslr previously in my opinion.. most people couldn't even use 500D properly to begin with.  i'd rather they spend $$$ attending workshop / classes to improve rather than spending more on body and feel good but photos look the same. |
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welcome to V30~ canon dslr user is increasing day by day~ happy shooting~
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Oct 6 2010, 12:34 AM
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ive attend one of the workshop before wow it really opens alot more perspective in photography. Recommended to go if who havent
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 6 2010, 12:27 AM) wow~ ur way of getting lens~ each lens getting more exp~ not very sure what u trying to ask here. did u mean, btw,just a question tht suddenly pop out from my mind~ its better a get only a wide angle lens or isit better 2 get a wide angle tele lens~? *nt getting it,just asking* is it better to get a wide angle lens(10-22) or is it better to get a wide angle tele lens(15-85) is that what u mean? it depends on your preference la. if it was me, i'll get 1 lens for normal outing(17-50), 1 for tele photo(55-250), 1 UWA(10-22), 1 fast aperture prime(30 f/1.4), and a flash of course that is the set up which i prefer. *reply continue from last thread |
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U fellas talking bout 24-70L. Very cheap only la now. There's a guy called shadow-dweller or sumthing selling it for only rm4700 IIRC. Who cares whether 24-70L IS comes out or whatever since it's so cheap now.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 6 2010, 12:33 AM) guys, don't spam. agree wit goldfries, attending workshop really hlp a lot n nt only tht~ u can still meet wit other ppl n get 2 know them n learn from them~ most people couldn't even use 500D properly to begin with. i'd rather they spend $$$ attending workshop / classes to improve rather than spending more on body and feel good but photos look the same. lately wedding season no workshop to attend at all~  o ya~ nt only workshop hlp improve ur photography skill~ attending model photoshoot n other photoshoot can also hlp a lot~ |
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 12:32 AM) somemore it really depends on the financial situation... even though u knew long run will save you alot more, but now u need dslr so badly, so badly poisoned, but only enuf money to get 60D, instead of 7D or 1d mkIV, then just go for 60D lo.. im sure u will not really regret after getting 60D. its a good camera. i get 500D but not 550D cuz i got really really limited budget that time. and i know i will be upgrading again in the future.. so, its ok lo just learn from 500D since that time i only ahve that amount of money to allow me to buy that model.. +1 DSLR is not a cheap investment and we all know we cant chase up to technology everyday there will be something better out there. |
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yea, what goldfries say is true..
no need so rush wan get the best of the best one go. most of the people only get their pro level bodies after years of experience with lower body. like goldfries himself, he use 500d 550d also wat. now baru upgrade to 60D cuz the features this body offers appeal to his needs. as for me, i have been reading for months and i began with pns camera before i venture into dslr.. so once i got my first dslr, it doesnt seem new or alien to me anymore.. instead i can enjoy the photography itself, while learning new skills.. |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 12:36 AM) U fellas talking bout 24-70L. Very cheap only la now. There's a guy called shadow-dweller or sumthing selling it for only rm4700 IIRC. Who cares whether 24-70L IS comes out or whatever since it's so cheap now. 4.7k cheap haha can i ask for a loan lol. 1 lens 4.7K if 3 lens can reach up to 10k all the best lensesThis post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Oct 6 2010, 12:38 AM |
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 6 2010, 12:35 AM) not very sure what u trying to ask here. did u mean, erm...my meaning is lik...isit better to get wide angle lens for wide angle purpose n tele lens for tele purpose or to get 2 in 1~is it better to get a wide angle lens(10-22) or is it better to get a wide angle tele lens(15-85) is that what u mean? it depends on your preference la. if it was me, i'll get 1 lens for normal outing(17-50), 1 for tele photo(55-250), 1 UWA(10-22), 1 fast aperture prime(30 f/1.4), and a flash of course that is the set up which i prefer. *reply continue from last thread |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 12:32 AM) somemore it really depends on the financial situation... even though u knew long run will save you alot more, but now u need dslr so badly, so badly poisoned, but only enuf money to get 60D, instead of 7D or 1d mkIV, then just go for 60D lo.. im sure u will not really regret after getting 60D. its a good camera. i get 500D but not 550D cuz i got really really limited budget that time. and i know i will be upgrading again in the future.. so, its ok lo just learn from 500D since that time i only ahve that amount of money to allow me to buy that model.. me too, that is why i get 450D, btw, money i spent so far on the lens upgrade can bring me a newer body(xxD model most probably), but i realize that, buying a better body can't upgrade my shooting quality. and i need a faster lens, that is why, lens is 1st priority. |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 6 2010, 12:33 AM) guys, don't spam. This is why I bought a Sony Alpha 1st. So that I can abuse the free workshops n free photography trips to the Zoo, Melaka, etc etc. Those workshops sure help a lot n get right down to the basics that so many fellas here dont even have any idea about. FOV, Compression, barrel distortion, pincushion distortion n all oso talak tau. most people couldn't even use 500D properly to begin with. i'd rather they spend $$$ attending workshop / classes to improve rather than spending more on body and feel good but photos look the same.  |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:41 AM
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You all lucky can go workshop... I TFK also no time ar... only got ~30-40mins everynight after put baby to sleep go jalan jalan snipe mei mei.
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Oct 6 2010, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 12:41 AM) You all lucky can go workshop... I TFK also no time ar... only got ~30-40mins everynight after put baby to sleep go jalan jalan snipe mei mei. its like that when they are few months old. When the baby is about 1 year 1/2 should have more time already. We got so many sifu sifu here can ask them set up a workshop for us.This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Oct 6 2010, 12:42 AM |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 6 2010, 12:33 AM) most people couldn't even use 500D properly to begin with. i tink im d one...i'd rather they spend $$$ attending workshop / classes to improve rather than spending more on body and feel good but photos look the same. xD btw wanna ask...is d canon sales still on? tat one hari raya sales... n d sale is at evry canon shop outlet? |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 6 2010, 12:38 AM) 4.7k cheap haha can i ask for a loan lol. 1 lens 4.7K if 3 lens can reach up to 10k all the best lenses rm10k u wanna buy 3 of the best lenses already? U better go sleep early tonight n have sweet dreams. Even 1 nice 28-300L is rm10k oredi. If talking bout 3 lenses then take The Holy Trinity as an example- 16-35L- rm6k 24-70L- rm5k 70-200 f2.8L IS- rm9k. Those 3 BEST lenses for all round usage is already rm20k. |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 12:36 AM) U fellas talking bout 24-70L. Very cheap only la now. There's a guy called shadow-dweller or sumthing selling it for only rm4700 IIRC. Who cares whether 24-70L IS comes out or whatever since it's so cheap now. i don't have catch fish, i don't have that much fish to sell to earn so much money QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 6 2010, 12:38 AM) erm...my meaning is lik...isit better to get wide angle lens for wide angle purpose n tele lens for tele purpose or to get 2 in 1~ it is just like getting a gaming computer for gaming and getting a HTPC for watching TV. yeap, both works the same(it is computer right) but both is not the same profession, one is more to gaming and another one is more to watching movie.so, do you think a fusion between tele and wide angle is better or a UWA for UWA and a tele for tele is better? unless u can find a lens that is range 10-300 |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 6 2010, 12:33 AM) guys, don't spam. 7 September – 15 October 2010 : Canon Camera Gila-Gila Salemost people couldn't even use 500D properly to begin with. i'd rather they spend $$$ attending workshop / classes to improve rather than spending more on body and feel good but photos look the same. http://www.shoppingnsales.com/2010/09/07/7...gila-gila-sale/ Added on October 6, 2010, 12:47 am QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 12:45 AM) rm10k u wanna buy 3 of the best lenses already? U better go sleep early tonight n have sweet dreams. Even 1 nice 28-300L is rm10k oredi. =.=" If talking bout 3 lenses then take The Holy Trinity as an example- 16-35L- rm6k 24-70L- rm5k 70-200 f2.8L IS- rm9k. Those 3 BEST lenses for all round usage is already rm20k. This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Oct 6 2010, 12:47 AM |
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 12:45 AM) rm10k u wanna buy 3 of the best lenses already? U better go sleep early tonight n have sweet dreams. Even 1 nice 28-300L is rm10k oredi. Or one big white fast prime tarpau all that di.... not enough summore. If talking bout 3 lenses then take The Holy Trinity as an example- 16-35L- rm6k 24-70L- rm5k 70-200 f2.8L IS- rm9k. Those 3 BEST lenses for all round usage is already rm20k. QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 6 2010, 12:46 AM) i don't have catch fish, i don't have that much fish to sell to earn so much money Comparing cameras and computers are just so wrong it is just like getting a gaming computer for gaming and getting a HTPC for watching TV. yeap, both works the same(it is computer right) but both is not the same profession, one is more to gaming and another one is more to watching movie. so, do you think a fusion between tele and wide angle is better or a UWA for UWA and a tele for tele is better? unless u can find a lens that is range 10-300  |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 12:53 AM) Or one big white fast prime tarpau all that di.... not enough summore. Why so wrong? All my computers are white Macs. My camera oso White Knight. Same same la. Comparing cameras and computers are just so wrong  |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 12:53 AM) Or one big white fast prime tarpau all that di.... not enough summore. i can't figure out anything can use to compare Comparing cameras and computers are just so wrong  |
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Oct 6 2010, 01:02 AM
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okok~ i get the point d~
L lens really can make u ikat perut if really saving for one~ nt wat a student can afford... |
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Oct 6 2010, 01:02 AM
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Saw the Canon shop in KLCC carrying 60D. They had two demo units there too, one with the 18-55 and the other with the 18-200.
It's nice actually. Without actually spending much time with it, the only gripe I have is the lock button on the mode dial. And oh, I like its shutter sound.  |
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 12:56 AM) Why so wrong? All my computers are white Macs. My camera oso White Knight. Same same la. If color coding is important... boh pien lo... besides, your case is special. QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 6 2010, 12:58 AM) i can't figure out anything can use to compare You know recently I develop this habit of shooting people with cameras right. I feel that in Asia, we're like upgradaholics.. everything also want the latest and greatest but during my travels to Europe, I see a lot of people using ancient PnS sized like a brick la.... 350D's... 400D's... old film cameras etc and for sure their average pay is higher than ours here. I think we should take goldie's and some forgot-where quote ... pay more attention to quality images rather than image quality. but if I kena jackpot.. I'll get a new house to put the whole canon catalog |
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Oct 6 2010, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 01:09 AM) I feel that in Asia, we're like upgradaholics.. everything also want the latest and greatest but during my travels to Europe, I see a lot of people using ancient PnS sized like a brick la.... 350D's... 400D's... old film cameras etc and for sure their average pay is higher than ours here. yup~ agree wit u~ we asians always lik 2 hv the best n b the best in everything~ I think we should take goldie's and some forgot-where quote ... pay more attention to quality images rather than image quality. but if I kena jackpot.. I'll get a new house to put the whole canon catalog for some stupid reason, whenever smth new came out~ ur mind sure hv the feeling tht u gonna get tht for sure~ |
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Oct 6 2010, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 01:09 AM) If color coding is important... boh pien lo... besides, your case is special. because canon and nikon is from asian country.. HAHA... LOL jk.You know recently I develop this habit of shooting people with cameras right. I feel that in Asia, we're like upgradaholics.. everything also want the latest and greatest but during my travels to Europe, I see a lot of people using ancient PnS sized like a brick la.... 350D's... 400D's... old film cameras etc and for sure their average pay is higher than ours here. I think we should take goldie's and some forgot-where quote ... pay more attention to quality images rather than image quality. but if I kena jackpot.. I'll get a new house to put the whole canon catalog btw, guys, do u guys know where can get bagman product? wanted to have a look at this bagman Snapshot Trekka |
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Oct 6 2010, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 01:09 AM) If color coding is important... boh pien lo... besides, your case is special. About being upgradaholics, I can proudly say I ain't 1 of them coz I'm saying NO to modern tech and goin retro! You know recently I develop this habit of shooting people with cameras right. I feel that in Asia, we're like upgradaholics.. everything also want the latest and greatest but during my travels to Europe, I see a lot of people using ancient PnS sized like a brick la.... 350D's... 400D's... old film cameras etc and for sure their average pay is higher than ours here. I think we should take goldie's and some forgot-where quote ... pay more attention to quality images rather than image quality. but if I kena jackpot.. I'll get a new house to put the whole canon catalog |
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Oct 6 2010, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 6 2010, 01:23 AM) because canon and nikon is from asian country.. HAHA... LOL jk. if nt mistaken i saw b4 at mitmivec website~ correct me if i'm wrong~ bt nt sure which model isit~ n somehw their website is gone this few days when i checked~btw, guys, do u guys know where can get bagman product? wanted to have a look at this bagman Snapshot Trekka |
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Oct 6 2010, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 6 2010, 01:26 AM) if nt mistaken i saw b4 at mitmivec website~ correct me if i'm wrong~ bt nt sure which model isit~ n somehw their website is gone this few days when i checked~ his website is kinda slow in loading *runs if mitmivec saw this |
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Oct 6 2010, 01:31 AM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 6 2010, 01:28 AM) his website is kinda slow in loading *runs if mitmivec saw this it say account suspended.... the website totally gone... |
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 12:37 AM) yea, what goldfries say is true.. I didn't know goldfries has a 60D, the one in his blog was just for a preview not review la. Or I'm not up to date enough that he already got a 60D?no need so rush wan get the best of the best one go. most of the people only get their pro level bodies after years of experience with lower body. like goldfries himself, he use 500d 550d also wat. now baru upgrade to 60D cuz the features this body offers appeal to his needs. Wow, just went off to watch drama and play games on my iPad, you guys have moved into the new version. Actually I'm very keen in getting my first L lens, it could be the 70-200mm f/4 non-IS.  My friend's younger bro is using that and totally mesmerised by his shots.  |
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hello..im quite new here.. an quit noobie in EOS just bought 500D 2 days ago.. just want to ask any, used gear want tosell?? cikai2 also can..just want testing gear.. consider it cheap
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 6 2010, 02:01 AM) I didn't know goldfries has a 60D, the one in his blog was just for a preview not review la. Or I'm not up to date enough that he already got a 60D? or save a bit more/makan magi to get the 70-200 2.8 II Wow, just went off to watch drama and play games on my iPad, you guys have moved into the new version. Actually I'm very keen in getting my first L lens, it could be the 70-200mm f/4 non-IS. My friend's younger bro is using that and totally mesmerised by his shots.  that 1 is a monster... |
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QUOTE(ceym @ Oct 6 2010, 02:20 AM) hello..im quite new here.. an quit noobie in EOS just bought 500D 2 days ago.. just want to ask any, used gear want tosell?? cikai2 also can..just want testing gear.. consider it cheap u are really new in photography. did you check on the recent price list? join us and we will poison u Added on October 6, 2010, 2:29 am QUOTE(kaigraphy @ Oct 6 2010, 02:22 AM) or save a bit more/makan magi to get the 70-200 2.8 II i everyday makan maggi just to get the tamron... that 1 is a monster...This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Oct 6 2010, 02:29 AM |
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alex u getting tamron 17-50 VC? but i tot u got the 24-70mm canon L lens edi rite?
Added on October 6, 2010, 6:59 amfark... my lens just arrived i found out its not a good unit.. HOW???? inside the lens like loose loose. i shake the lens inside elements can move de??? and i shake i will hear sound gulong gulong inside the lens. but after i fix into camera and switch on, then no sound... after i switch off, i shake got sound... whY????? does this happen to tamron? the inner elements just feel like falling off when i terbalik-an the lens... wth... DEMO OF IT MY OLD KIT LENS PERFECT SHAPE this one taken using that 17-50mm sigma, showing that it can work perfectly. just that the sound of OS can hear. can focus everything good, but when i shake abit the gulong sound come. WTH! This post has been edited by Michaelbyz23: Oct 6 2010, 07:32 AM |
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QUOTE(kaigraphy @ Oct 6 2010, 02:22 AM) or save a bit more/makan magi to get the 70-200 2.8 II A bit more? Are you sure is a bit? that 1 is a monster...QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 02:31 AM) alex u getting tamron 17-50 VC? but i tot u got the 24-70mm canon L lens edi rite? Since when? |
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Oct 6 2010, 08:29 AM
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fLuitie, help me! Isit normal that sigma or third party lens will have such problem? check my previous post. i am so nervous and sad now =(
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Oct 6 2010, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 01:25 AM) About being upgradaholics, I can proudly say I ain't 1 of them coz I'm saying NO to modern tech and goin retro! uncle ian want to upgrade to leica m9 titanium ke? |
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Oct 6 2010, 08:31 AM
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from 18th to 19th second you can actually hear that something or some glass inside the lens is shifting..
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Oct 6 2010, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 08:31 AM) from 18th to 19th second you can actually hear that something or some glass inside the lens is shifting.. cant access youtube at my officeis there any weird sound during focusing? |
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no weird sound during focus. but the focus speed seem just almsot the same as 18-55mm kit lens. image everything is sharp. OS working fine. but got sound.
The lens inside seems as if very loosely packed. when i turn around it feels like something is going to fall off. and u can hear elements inside shifting when u over turn the lens. but when i switch the camera on, the sounds gone. |
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Oct 6 2010, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 08:29 AM) fLuitie, help me! Isit normal that sigma or third party lens will have such problem? check my previous post. i am so nervous and sad now =( Definitely a problem if it was my camera lens. Email the company you bought from and ask them for an exchange as well as an explanation. You should then send back the lens over if there is a problem.  when you shake, a lens shouldn't make that much noise.If nothing is wrong, then I guess it I'd how sigma zooms work. Try to google your problem and you should get at least an answer.This post has been edited by azrinarizz: Oct 6 2010, 08:39 AM |
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Oct 6 2010, 08:38 AM
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exactly bro azrin.. it is so loud and im not kidding about this. u can see my kit lens, i shake so hard but takde bunyi pon...
Thanks for clarifying this matter for me. i will call up the company and request for a change. i will send back to them this friday. |
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 08:29 AM) fLuitie, help me! Isit normal that sigma or third party lens will have such problem? check my previous post. i am so nervous and sad now =( Erm, it seems abnormal to me. My Tammy has no sound at all.It seems something is loosing inside your lens. QUOTE(azrinarizz @ Oct 6 2010, 08:36 AM) Definitely a problem. The lens shouldn't be like that. Email the company you bought from and ask them for an exchange. You should be able to do it. Yes, attach your recorded video too. Else, it is difficult for you to explain in words. when you shake, a lens shouldn't make that much noise. |
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Oct 6 2010, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 08:38 AM) exactly bro azrin.. it is so loud and im not kidding about this. u can see my kit lens, i shake so hard but takde bunyi pon... i hope there is no element broken insideThanks for clarifying this matter for me. i will call up the company and request for a change. i will send back to them this friday. got warranty? |
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Oct 6 2010, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(ahyie @ Oct 6 2010, 08:40 AM) i hope there is no element broken inside I think 3 years warranty since he is in the States now.got warranty? |
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Oct 6 2010, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 08:35 AM) no weird sound during focus. but the focus speed seem just almsot the same as 18-55mm kit lens. image everything is sharp. OS working fine. but got sound. Could it be just the way the Sigma's OS work?The lens inside seems as if very loosely packed. when i turn around it feels like something is going to fall off. and u can hear elements inside shifting when u over turn the lens. but when i switch the camera on, the sounds gone. http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/407-sigma_18125_3856os_50d QUOTE There's only a single mode OS-switch (on/off) but the lens is able to detect panning (object tracking) which is different compared to Canon's IS implementation. The OS seems to have a little side effect though. You may be aware that the active OS/IS/VR produces a "humming" noise caused by the system which shifts the OS/IS/VR element to compensate shake. The Sigma has the strange behavior to do that in non-OS mode as well. Even more strange - the image gets "lifted" into position when switching on the camera. Obviously the OS system remains active to keep the OS element in a static position in non-OS mode. This behavior is "normal" and no defect. This unnecessary power drain may be somehow annoying but, frankly, most users will not disable the OS anyway Lepak for a while first lor... wait for someone with stabilized Sigma to post. This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Oct 6 2010, 08:44 AM |
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Oct 6 2010, 08:47 AM
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yea, got 4 years warranty. i have the warranty card with me also.
But, couldnt be that loud rite? any one with sigma has this as well? I don qutie understand what the website means.. but defintiely not saying something about this problem.. it is loud. u notice at 18-19 seconds, there is a shift of glass in the lens. @.@ |
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Oct 6 2010, 08:49 AM
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Googled another one http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=891623
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Oct 6 2010, 08:53 AM
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http://www.bobatkins.com/smf/index.php/topic,757.0.html
i also seek help from bob atkins.. but whatever good news about this unit or being normal, i will still wan to send back. this is ridiculously loud. now i try shake i lagi no mood. it feels like something is just moving freely in the lens.. |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:16 AM
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It may be the OS.
My 70-200 f4 IS makes some noise if I shake it too. Sounds like gears moving around. |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:18 AM
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Just some pictures i shot with Kit lens and 17-50mm lens. The box in dark situation photos are shot with kit lens. the rests shot with sigma. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Oct 6 2010, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 09:18 AM) Just some pictures i shot with Kit lens and 17-50mm lens.
The box in dark situation photos are shot with kit lens. the rests shot with sigma. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « wow nice lens how much is it? can it make close macro too?This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Oct 6 2010, 09:28 AM |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:29 AM
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Why dun u juz send back to Sigma and get a new one change
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Oct 6 2010, 09:29 AM
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sry, not really in the good mood to test and give review now.. sorry
im still trying to seek answers from bob atkins. Now i am more relieved http://www.bobatkins.com/smf/index.php/topic,769.0.html Added on October 6, 2010, 9:30 amyes bro, giving them a call to see whther this matter is normal or not normal. and if not normal, sending back for exchange. this thing cost a bomb Added on October 6, 2010, 9:44 amjust asked my fren who owns the 17-55mm canon lens. he said his one got no sound at all. he watched the video of my kit lens, he say its exactly liddat. firm. hmmm... oh well, canon is FTW now. alright, sorry for the interupt yea guys. This post has been edited by Michaelbyz23: Oct 6 2010, 09:44 AM |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 09:29 AM) sry, not really in the good mood to test and give review now.. sorry The pictures so sharp, what are u complaining about? Just use it la. After all u got 4 years warranty if anything were to really fall out.im still trying to seek answers from bob atkins. Now i am more relieved http://www.bobatkins.com/smf/index.php/topic,769.0.html Added on October 6, 2010, 9:30 amyes bro, giving them a call to see whther this matter is normal or not normal. and if not normal, sending back for exchange. this thing cost a bomb Added on October 6, 2010, 9:44 amjust asked my fren who owns the 17-55mm canon lens. he said his one got no sound at all. he watched the video of my kit lens, he say its exactly liddat. firm. hmmm... oh well, canon is FTW now. alright, sorry for the interupt yea guys. |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:50 AM
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if you have the money. just buy/upgrade. hahahaha... as long as u are satisfied,ok la
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Oct 6 2010, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(ahyie @ Oct 6 2010, 08:29 AM) uncle ian want to upgrade to leica m9 titanium ke? I no money to play Leica la. I only play with old junk Yashica MG-1. |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:53 AM
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hey uncle ian, is that normal? what do you think?
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Oct 6 2010, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 09:53 AM) hey uncle ian, is that normal? what do you think? if sound loud i think not normal |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 09:51 AM) I no money to play Leica la. I only play with old junk Yashica MG-1.  |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 09:53 AM) hey uncle ian, is that normal? what do you think? I dont have Sigma lens except the 50mm f1.4 so I cant say. But if u turn on the camera n there's no sound means it should b the moving element of the OS like Bob Atkins said. The pictures so sharp n nice so I wouldn't worry if I were u. If there's sumthin wrong the pics surely will b screwed up.Added on October 6, 2010, 10:00 am QUOTE(ahyie @ Oct 6 2010, 09:56 AM)  This post has been edited by ianho: Oct 6 2010, 10:00 AM |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 09:57 AM) I dont have Sigma lens except the 50mm f1.4 so I cant say. But if u turn on the camera n there's no sound means it should b the moving element of the OS like Bob Atkins said. The pictures so sharp n nice so I wouldn't worry if I were u. If there's sumthin wrong the pics surely will b screwed up. vivitar? it is p&s film right?Added on October 6, 2010, 10:00 am U shud try my Vivitar CV 35 too, damn nice camera. It's good to take a break from all the super duper hi-tech of Canon once in a while. ur nokton sold oledi ka? |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:04 AM
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since this is EOS thread
so i wanna share my film pictures oso here  canon eos 3 + 50mm EF 1.4 + fuji pro 400H |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(ahyie @ Oct 6 2010, 10:02 AM) vivitar? it is p&s film right? The Vivitar is a damn nice camera. I recently found it in my storeroom when I went in there to clean up. Really old skool look. Sharp center n blur blur sides. No need Lomo when I have this dreamy cam. Hehe.ur nokton sold oledi ka? The 40mm f1.4 no takers yet. Very few M mount afficionados in Malaysia I guess. QUOTE(ahyie @ Oct 6 2010, 10:04 AM) since this is EOS thread Damn nice pic. Just look at the lovely grain. Dunno why nowadays ppl always complain about the slightest bit of noise. Old skool rules!so i wanna share my film pictures oso here » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « canon eos 3 + 50mm EF 1.4 + fuji pro 400H This post has been edited by ianho: Oct 6 2010, 10:15 AM |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 09:29 AM) sry, not really in the good mood to test and give review now.. sorry Canon's IS and Sigma's OS work differently wat... how can compare like that?im still trying to seek answers from bob atkins. Now i am more relieved http://www.bobatkins.com/smf/index.php/topic,769.0.html Added on October 6, 2010, 9:30 amyes bro, giving them a call to see whther this matter is normal or not normal. and if not normal, sending back for exchange. this thing cost a bomb Added on October 6, 2010, 9:44 amjust asked my fren who owns the 17-55mm canon lens. he said his one got no sound at all. he watched the video of my kit lens, he say its exactly liddat. firm. hmmm... oh well, canon is FTW now. alright, sorry for the interupt yea guys. Or turn on the camera but turn off the OS.... see if it's rattles... if it does... confim it's annoying but normal liao. QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 09:50 AM) The pictures so sharp, what are u complaining about? Just use it la. After all u got 4 years warranty if anything were to really fall out. Yeah man... the pics giler sharp. Poisoned liao... though I still think it's too expensive. I think I can live with a rattling lens... heck my 28-105 USM has loose bits and pieces all over... nifty fifty worse than my daughter toys. QUOTE(ahyie @ Oct 6 2010, 10:04 AM) since this is EOS thread That's how a flower will look like in my dreams (haven't upgraded brain to FullHD yet). Brilliant so i wanna share my film pictures oso here » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « canon eos 3 + 50mm EF 1.4 + fuji pro 400H This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Oct 6 2010, 12:07 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 10:14 AM) The Vivitar is a damn nice camera. I recently found it in my storeroom when I went in there to clean up. Really old skool look. Sharp center n blur blur sides. No need Lomo when I have this dreamy cam. Hehe. i oso use p&s film, olympus mju IIThe 40mm f1.4 no takers yet. Very few M mount afficionados in Malaysia I guess. Damn nice pic. Just look at the lovely grain. Dunno why nowadays ppl always complain about the slightest bit of noise. Old skool rules! try fuji pro 400H lah uncle ian really like the grain using this film else can try superia xtra 400 nokton + M8 = swirl bokeh  |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 10:16 AM) Canon's IS and Sigma's OS work differently wat... how can compare like that? Aiyaaaaaah u got Sigma 30mm f1.4 oredi now. It's time to put ur 50mm f1.8 hereOr turn on the camera but turn off the OS.... see if it's rattles... if it does... confim it's annoying but normal liao. Yeah man... the pics giler sharp. Poisoned liao... though I still think it's too expensive. I think I can live with a rattling lens... heck my 28-105 USM has loose bits and pieces all over... nifty fifty worse than my daughter toys.  |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 10:20 AM) Aiyaaaaaah u got Sigma 30mm f1.4 oredi now. It's time to put ur 50mm f1.8 here tats a nice one...btw can throw at my house bin?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 09:53 AM) hey uncle ian, is that normal? what do you think? did u try turn of OS and try it? |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:21 AM
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Just curious...can dslr achieve this kind of photo~?
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Oct 6 2010, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 6 2010, 11:21 AM) Just curious...can dslr achieve this kind of photo~? olden days camera can do it. The new LX5 also has this feature built in. U can take several exposures n it comes out as a single jpeg.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I think it's call multiple exposure...from the movie it's taken using lomography... |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 11:29 AM) olden days camera can do it. The new LX5 also has this feature built in. U can take several exposures n it comes out as a single jpeg. That's the problem...search everywhere bt no technique for it on dslr...was thinking of bulb mode bt nt sure will work or nt...gonna try it out later...shoot a photo using bulb mode,close the lens cap n move on to the next location,open the lens cap n let it expose awhile to the thing I wanna take...smth lik that... |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:12 PM
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I just got my 550D and 17-55mm lens.
Using a tripod, i tested the lens sharpness and to my surprise, i notice that switching ON the IS will consistently produce softer image than turning it OFF. Anyone has the same results with this lens? Here's the 100% crops to show what i mean, IS on:  IS off:  |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:17 PM
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Michaelbyz23,
Initially I thought you were describing it as soft muffled chucking sound, which is very normal in IS lens, which has this sound increasingly in effect of its focal length. But I wasn't expecting such loud sound which sounds like glasses are in direct impact with the lens body(?). I only had Sigma 18-200mm OS that has OS and is Sigma. It does have noise when I shake, but doesn't sound like that. Similarly to my 70-200mm f4L IS, it is very loud, but does not sound worrying. ------ steven789, IS should be off when you mount on tripod, unless it is the new generation of image-stabilized telephoto lens that does work on tripod for panning. |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 6 2010, 02:28 AM) u are really new in photography. haha..want poison me? where to check the price list for canon geardid you check on the recent price list? join us and we will poison u Added on October 6, 2010, 2:29 am i everyday makan maggi just to get the tamron... |
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Oct 6 2010, 01:00 PM
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@mengsuan, so that means mine isnt really normal? Yea, i posted the videos at other forums and people give comments just like yours. some of them have the same lens, but their unit don produce such loud sound. It does not sound like the glass inside is moving and hitting on each other as well as the barrel.
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QUOTE steven789, so if i want to shoot landscape with my 550D and 18-135mm on a tripod, off IS to get nicer pictures?IS should be off when you mount on tripod, unless it is the new generation of image-stabilized telephoto lens that does work on tripod for panning. This post has been edited by Boomeraangkid: Oct 6 2010, 01:03 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 01:04 PM
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Theoretically you do not need IS on tripod.
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Oct 6 2010, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 02:31 AM) alex u getting tamron 17-50 VC? but i tot u got the 24-70mm canon L lens edi rite? haha, since when? Added on October 6, 2010, 6:59 amfark... my lens just arrived i found out its not a good unit.. HOW???? inside the lens like loose loose. i shake the lens inside elements can move de??? and i shake i will hear sound gulong gulong inside the lens. but after i fix into camera and switch on, then no sound... after i switch off, i shake got sound... whY????? does this happen to tamron? the inner elements just feel like falling off when i terbalik-an the lens... wth... DEMO OF IT MY OLD KIT LENS PERFECT SHAPE this one taken using that 17-50mm sigma, showing that it can work perfectly. just that the sound of OS can hear. can focus everything good, but when i shake abit the gulong sound come. WTH! my geavity is just for fun. btw, i though US got 14-day 1 to 1 exchange policy ? QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 6 2010, 08:25 AM) Since when? yea, right, since when? QUOTE(ceym @ Oct 6 2010, 12:26 PM) haha..want poison me? where to check the price list for canon gear www.canon.com.my got recommended retail price mah. |
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Oct 6 2010, 01:34 PM
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http://www.bobatkins.com/smf/index.php/topic,769.0.html ini comfort me the most. i may not wanna send it over to exchange anymore i guess. but i will see what the dealer and sigma say about this. and what uncle Ian said is true also, got warranty 4 years. if spoil then send for warranty stil sempat. but anyway, just hope they say this is normal and it applies to all lenses with OS. then i lega edi. So far, everything seems to work fine with the lens. tested in low light situation and find that focus wasnt that fast, IQ not too good in low lights. But it doesnt really matter now as long as its fine.. tested some close up, it really performs cuz it can really go pretty close. note that i say close up, not macro.. sharpness, is excellent built quality quite sturdy n heavy.. size big enuf and offer better ergonomics. OS works fine. turn it off or on the image still not shaky. dunno y, maybe my hand too steady? so i decided not to test further anymore. i just wanna share some of the pictures i took with the lens when i run some testings on it. Cheers » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Oct 6 2010, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 01:34 PM) http://www.bobatkins.com/smf/index.php/topic,769.0.html
ini comfort me the most. i may not wanna send it over to exchange anymore i guess. but i will see what the dealer and sigma say about this. and what uncle Ian said is true also, got warranty 4 years. if spoil then send for warranty stil sempat. but anyway, just hope they say this is normal and it applies to all lenses with OS. then i lega edi. So far, everything seems to work fine with the lens. tested in low light situation and find that focus wasnt that fast, IQ not too good in low lights. But it doesnt really matter now as long as its fine.. tested some close up, it really performs cuz it can really go pretty close. note that i say close up, not macro.. sharpness, is excellent built quality quite sturdy n heavy.. size big enuf and offer better ergonomics. OS works fine. turn it off or on the image still not shaky. dunno y, maybe my hand too steady? so i decided not to test further anymore. i just wanna share some of the pictures i took with the lens when i run some testings on it. Cheers » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Wow.... those are OOC?Poisonous sial... damn poisonous. It's bloody expensive in Taiwan though... ~RM2.3K for 3rd party lens... a bit hard to stomach. Maybe I'll wait till more people bring it in and price to fall |
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Oct 6 2010, 02:44 PM
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what is OOC?
yea, the sharpness is really good. now i can feel it already. haha. at f2.8 is really sharp. tested several position and style, still sharp. the sharpness ithink can compare with tamron edi |
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Oct 6 2010, 02:45 PM
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OOC = Out of Camera
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Oct 6 2010, 02:48 PM
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no la, i done editings to the photos. otherwise the vignetting wont be so obvious already =/
hmm, next time i try to upload OOC pictures. tmr ade test in morning, i better go study still got 3 more chapters to go. and thanks everyone for the advise just now. thanks fluitie too for the explanation. |
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 02:44 PM) what is OOC? any idea how was it compare with tamron 17-50 VC?yea, the sharpness is really good. now i can feel it already. haha. at f2.8 is really sharp. tested several position and style, still sharp. the sharpness ithink can compare with tamron edi I was deciding between these 2 as well |
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Oct 6 2010, 02:52 PM
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that one u need to wait for next week bobatkin's review. and read some reviews on the net.. i nvr really tried tamron. so i don know the performance. but from what i see at fluitie's photos, they are sharp also. but something sigma offers that appeals to canon users like me, is the direction of rotation. =x tats me, my personal preference.
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 01:34 PM) http://www.bobatkins.com/smf/index.php/topic,769.0.html
ini comfort me the most. i may not wanna send it over to exchange anymore i guess. but i will see what the dealer and sigma say about this. and what uncle Ian said is true also, got warranty 4 years. if spoil then send for warranty stil sempat. but anyway, just hope they say this is normal and it applies to all lenses with OS. then i lega edi. So far, everything seems to work fine with the lens. tested in low light situation and find that focus wasnt that fast, IQ not too good in low lights. But it doesnt really matter now as long as its fine.. tested some close up, it really performs cuz it can really go pretty close. note that i say close up, not macro.. sharpness, is excellent built quality quite sturdy n heavy.. size big enuf and offer better ergonomics. OS works fine. turn it off or on the image still not shaky. dunno y, maybe my hand too steady? so i decided not to test further anymore. i just wanna share some of the pictures i took with the lens when i run some testings on it. Cheers » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « sharp copy bro |
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Oct 6 2010, 03:29 PM
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Oct 6 2010, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(coolice @ Oct 6 2010, 02:49 PM) any idea how was it compare with tamron 17-50 VC? Tamron 17-50 VC's graphI was deciding between these 2 as well http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/482-tamr...c_canon?start=1 Siggy 17-50 OS's graph http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/531-sigma1750f28os?start=1 |
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Oct 6 2010, 03:41 PM
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How much price difference ya between these two models?
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 6 2010, 03:41 PM) How much price difference ya between these two models? Taiwan price.... all grey market price I'm still happy with my Tammy for the price I paid. Tammy VC --> ~RM1.4K Siggy OS --> ~RM2.3K Expensive sial. |
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 03:44 PM) Taiwan price.... all grey market price wah Tammy VC so cheap in Taiwan Tammy VC --> ~RM1.4K Siggy OS --> ~RM2.3K Expensive sial. |
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Oct 6 2010, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 03:44 PM) Taiwan price.... all grey market price Tammy VC --> ~RM1.4K Siggy OS --> ~RM2.3K Expensive sial. I bet Malaysia is more expensive. Cannot consider at all. If buying that I'll get a used L lens. |
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Oct 6 2010, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 6 2010, 03:45 PM) I bet Malaysia is more expensive. Cannot consider at all. If buying that I'll get a used L lens. But buy L just for red ring also not worth it lor. 17-40 only f4 and no IS 24-105 not wide enough for crop + heavy Aikss... decision decisions.... |
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Oct 6 2010, 03:51 PM
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no buying, no need to think.
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Oct 6 2010, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 03:49 PM) Ya lar.. giler mahal for a Sigma. 70-200 f/4L non-IS. But buy L just for red ring also not worth it lor. 17-40 only f4 and no IS 24-105 not wide enough for crop + heavy Aikss... decision decisions.... Or maybe 10-22mm.  |
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Oct 6 2010, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 03:49 PM) Ya lar.. giler mahal for a Sigma. Both also not wide enough for crop.But buy L just for red ring also not worth it lor. 17-40 only f4 and no IS 24-105 not wide enough for crop + heavy Aikss... decision decisions.... Best solution is pair with 10-22 |
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Oct 6 2010, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 6 2010, 03:52 PM) 70-200 f/4L non-IS. buy 10-22 if u like landscapes. shoot at between f5.6 to f8 for optimum. 3.5 is unusable imo. about the same fov as the 16-35mm on FF.Or maybe 10-22mm. imho the 70-200 f4 non IS is hard to use. usable outdoor only mostly. indoor at f4 its quite hard to use when u zoom in... z:pQUOTE(steven789 @ Oct 6 2010, 12:12 PM) I just got my 550D and 17-55mm lens. hi steven, if u r shooting on a tripod it's best to turn IS off on that lens. on some higher end lens it detects if the body is on a tripod but i always turn it off as well. since u r on a tripod if IS is turned on, the gyros are spinning inside and will try to compensate for movement which isn't there. so what you are showing in the pics is expected. Using a tripod, i tested the lens sharpness and to my surprise, i notice that switching ON the IS will consistently produce softer image than turning it OFF. Anyone has the same results with this lens? Here's the 100% crops to show what i mean, This post has been edited by crocs: Oct 6 2010, 04:12 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 03:44 PM) Taiwan price.... all grey market price No need get the OS lar....Tammy VC --> ~RM1.4K Siggy OS --> ~RM2.3K Expensive sial. get the normal 18-50 Macro HSM shud do i tested out frenz one its sharp already its around rm1.8k btw @micheal how is teh MFD? can focus very close? cuz your version doesn seem to have "macro" This post has been edited by Redcross: Oct 6 2010, 04:21 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(crocs @ Oct 6 2010, 03:58 PM) hi steven, if u r shooting on a tripod it's best to turn IS off on that lens. on some higher end lens it detects if the body is on a tripod but i always turn it off as well. since u r on a tripod if IS is turned on, the gyros are spinning inside and will try to compensate for movement which isn't there. so what you are showing in the pics is expected. I'm aware that the manual says to off IS when using a tripod (reason is to safe battery  ), i never thought that the picture quality can be so much different. Anyway, just now i tried with steady handheld, the difference is less noticeable. |
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Oct 6 2010, 04:50 PM
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trying multiple exposure using BULB mode~ will upload the result later~
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Oct 6 2010, 04:55 PM
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Hi to all sifus here
I wanna to ask about the Canon 50mm f/1.8 lens.....does it a good buy? It costing around RM350....my purpose to buy this lens is I want it's wide aperture which allow. Easier shoot at night and most important the bokeh produced by it It is very cheap compared to the 50mm f/1.4L which is costing around 2K and 35mm f/1.2L which is around 5K something......I wonder how it's quality |
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Oct 6 2010, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(A Wil @ Oct 6 2010, 04:55 PM) Hi to all sifus here 50mm f/1.8 II is RM 290 and it is a very good lens at its price. I wanna to ask about the Canon 50mm f/1.8 lens.....does it a good buy? It costing around RM350....my purpose to buy this lens is I want it's wide aperture which allow. Easier shoot at night and most important the bokeh produced by it It is very cheap compared to the 50mm f/1.4L which is costing around 2K and 35mm f/1.2L which is around 5K something......I wonder how it's quality And 50mm f/1.4 is not an L lens. You get what you pay. This post has been edited by fruitie: Oct 6 2010, 04:57 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(A Wil @ Oct 6 2010, 04:55 PM) Hi to all sifus here definitely as a first lens. good for portraiture on 1.6 crop factor bodies. the build quality is not so good though with plastic mount but for that price nobody shud complain I wanna to ask about the Canon 50mm f/1.8 lens.....does it a good buy? It costing around RM350....my purpose to buy this lens is I want it's wide aperture which allow. Easier shoot at night and most important the bokeh produced by it It is very cheap compared to the 50mm f/1.4L which is costing around 2K and 35mm f/1.2L which is around 5K something......I wonder how it's quality bokeh is nice.the 1.4 ofc is better in build quality and optics. it's got a 8 bladed diaphragm which makes bokeh slightly rounder. the 1.8 has 5 blades. 1.2 is L series so price is multiple. imho. just buy it first. even if u decide to get a 1.4 or 1.2 later u wont lose much to begin with. p.s. as fruitie said u get what u pay for la haha. This post has been edited by crocs: Oct 6 2010, 05:00 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 05:01 PM
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wah..seems like a lot of ppl actually loves the bokeh of 50 f1.8
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Oct 6 2010, 05:12 PM
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I hate the bokeh, but no choice but to use it cos of the speed
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Oct 6 2010, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(khaiandrew @ Oct 6 2010, 05:12 PM) I hate the bokeh, but no choice but to use it cos of the speed this is for u then bro... I want nice circular bokehh  This post has been edited by crocs: Oct 6 2010, 05:17 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 6 2010, 04:50 PM) trying multiple exposure using BULB mode~ will upload the result later~ Just do it in photoshop la. Why want so mahfan. Have to keep holding the shutter button.  |
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Oct 6 2010, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(Chiet @ Oct 6 2010, 05:24 PM) Just do it in photoshop la. Why want so mahfan. Have to keep holding the shutter button. out of camera nicer whatt baru test technical skill |
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Oct 6 2010, 05:34 PM
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Phuiyoh! Sum1 mentioned there's 50L for rm2k? Please give me 10 units. I take it now, COD.
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Oct 6 2010, 05:37 PM
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60D bidding at facebook.
http://apps.facebook.com/canonbid/Default.aspx current price rm2,105, anyone mau? bidding ends in 6 hours im not the seller, canon is organizing the bidding This post has been edited by azrash: Oct 6 2010, 05:52 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(Chiet @ Oct 6 2010, 05:24 PM) Just do it in photoshop la. Why want so mahfan. Have to keep holding the shutter button. gt shutter remote ma~ so no nd hold on to it~ the effect directly from camera is always better than edit~plus it feels gd 2 c the photo of ur hardwork no matter hw the result come out~ This post has been edited by chinti: Oct 6 2010, 05:44 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(azrash @ Oct 6 2010, 05:37 PM) 60D bidding at facebook. What's the package ya? Only the body?http://apps.facebook.com/canonbid/Default.aspx current price rm2,105, anyone mau? bidding ends in 6 hours |
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Oct 6 2010, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 6 2010, 05:46 PM) What's the package ya? Only the body? Package nice! got 18-55mm kit lens, Manfroto tripod, 8gb SD, and Lens Workbook (12th edition). Mau? |
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Oct 6 2010, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(azrash @ Oct 6 2010, 05:50 PM) Package nice! got 18-55mm kit lens, Manfroto tripod, 8gb SD, and Lens Workbook (12th edition). Mau? Will see the price at 11.55 p.m. |
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Oct 6 2010, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(azrash @ Oct 6 2010, 05:50 PM) Package nice! got 18-55mm kit lens, Manfroto tripod, 8gb SD, and Lens Workbook (12th edition). Mau? Why lah u post here!I already senyap senyap din tell anyone since the price already stay there!  now u juz make more competitors!  |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(Redcross @ Oct 6 2010, 05:58 PM) Why lah u post here! Relax la. I already senyap senyap din tell anyone since the price already stay there! now u juz make more competitors! All experienced bidders will bid at last minute. Check out Lelong, then you will know. Nobody will bid now one la. The price can be static for hours or days but you will see it shoots up at the very last minute. |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:11 PM
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nv knew canon gt bidding system 1~ go test my luck~
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Oct 6 2010, 06:12 PM
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no need 60D. keep my darling 550D and str8 go 5DMKIII!
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Oct 6 2010, 06:18 PM
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Where can actually test the Canon 60D body? I try asking around Sunway Pyramid and they don't have the actual product heh :/
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Oct 6 2010, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(wingster @ Oct 6 2010, 06:18 PM) Where can actually test the Canon 60D body? I try asking around Sunway Pyramid and they don't have the actual product heh :/ I thought i heard someone mentioning KLCC Canon store has 2 60D demo units already?You want to jump ship? This post has been edited by -kytz-: Oct 6 2010, 06:19 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(wingster @ Oct 6 2010, 06:18 PM) Where can actually test the Canon 60D body? I try asking around Sunway Pyramid and they don't have the actual product heh :/ I heard Canon Concept Store in KLCC has 60D. |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(Redcross @ Oct 6 2010, 05:58 PM) Why lah u post here! same here.. I already senyap senyap din tell anyone since the price already stay there! now u juz make more competitors! |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(A Wil @ Oct 6 2010, 04:55 PM) Hi to all sifus here I wanna to ask about the Canon 50mm f/1.8 lens.....does it a good buy? It costing around RM350....my purpose to buy this lens is I want it's wide aperture which allow. Easier shoot at night and most important the bokeh produced by it It is very cheap compared to the 50mm f/1.4L which is costing around 2K and 35mm f/1.2L which is around 5K something......I wonder how it's quality some reference, i like this video very much |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 6 2010, 06:20 PM) same here.. relax bro~ sharing is caring~ is it easy 2 win a bid~? as far as i know a lot of those system always hv an auto-bid bot 1 so its near impossible~ |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 6 2010, 06:20 PM) same here.. Don't worry I won't fight with you guys la. |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 6 2010, 06:19 PM) I thought i heard someone mentioning KLCC Canon store has 2 60D demo units already? Sort of ... You want to jump ship? but I'm go with 2 system at the end .. my purpose for 60D is for movie shooting only and my college only able to rent us Canon lenses for assignment so is much flexible for me when I have a Canon system |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(wingster @ Oct 6 2010, 06:22 PM) Sort of ... no need think, just jump la. we welcome u aboard but I'm go with 2 system at the end .. my purpose for 60D is for movie shooting only and my college only able to rent us Canon lenses for assignment so is much flexible for me when I have a Canon system |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:27 PM
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Why no A55 wan?I thought the screen is also variable angle what,got AF somemore lol
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Oct 6 2010, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Oct 6 2010, 06:12 PM) no need 60D. keep my darling 550D and str8 go 5DMKIII! hahaha, same here, my 450d i will use till lunyai, then upgrade to 5dMarkIII, str8 to FF, nicer! This post has been edited by azrash: Oct 6 2010, 06:31 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 6 2010, 06:27 PM) Why no A55 wan?I thought the screen is also variable angle what,got AF somemore lol A few pages back... ppl talking about build quality of 550D...I don't know about you guys but I think the A55 build quality lagi crap. Tap tap also get hollow sound. IMHO, EVF is practical but the whole feel of the camera is too digital (yeah yeah... what the crap am I crapping about.. it's a digital camera.. but ya know what I mean) |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 6 2010, 06:27 PM) Why no A55 wan?I thought the screen is also variable angle what,got AF somemore lol A55 is actually the same level as Canon 550D, I actually like it but because they don't offer any single flexible control on video mode and the movie quality on Canon is better from what I test so I decided to go for 60D |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(wingster @ Oct 6 2010, 06:22 PM) Sort of ... buy adapter for canon la. so can use sony's/minolta's lens but I'm go with 2 system at the end .. my purpose for 60D is for movie shooting only and my college only able to rent us Canon lenses for assignment so is much flexible for me when I have a Canon system |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 06:32 PM) A few pages back... ppl talking about build quality of 550D...I don't know about you guys but I think the A55 build quality lagi crap. Actually it's not the build quality i'm concerned of, it's the grip Tap tap also get hollow sound. IMHO, EVF is practical but the whole feel of the camera is too digital (yeah yeah... what the crap am I crapping about.. it's a digital camera.. but ya know what I mean) After all it's the grip we'll be holding, not the body Heh, small matter, i'll try to live with the grip , when i get it.So far so good?Any hand strain of some sort? This post has been edited by -kytz-: Oct 6 2010, 06:45 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 03:49 PM) Ya lar.. giler mahal for a Sigma. But L gives very nice colour and the right amount of contrast. You can expect consistency in its image output. But buy L just for red ring also not worth it lor. 17-40 only f4 and no IS 24-105 not wide enough for crop + heavy Aikss... decision decisions....  |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(azrash @ Oct 6 2010, 06:38 PM) buy adapter for canon la. so can use sony's/minolta's lens I have no idea where to get it by the way, even I found it might not have the aperture ring control :/ |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 6 2010, 06:47 PM) But L gives very nice colour and the right amount of contrast. You can expect consistency in its image output. True as well... have another trip coming soon in a couple weeks. Unfortunately this time is with a colleague who has a habit of lugging a backpack full of L's.. who knows. |
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Oct 6 2010, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 6 2010, 06:52 PM) True as well... have another trip coming soon in a couple weeks. Unfortunately this time is with a colleague who has a habit of lugging a backpack full of L's.. who knows. I love this kind of colleagues.  |
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Oct 6 2010, 07:20 PM
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just bought a cheap cheap flash.. but nothing to shoot with..
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Oct 6 2010, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 6 2010, 06:24 PM) no need think, just jump la. we welcome u aboard hahaha u so rich you buy camera and lens like go pasar malam buy stuff like that |
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Oct 6 2010, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(aidlover @ Oct 6 2010, 07:20 PM) just bought a cheap cheap flash.. but nothing to shoot with.. cheap cheap flash~?wat flash~? mind sharing~? |
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Oct 6 2010, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 6 2010, 07:28 PM) cheap cheap flash~? digieye flash..wat flash~? mind sharing~? go garage sales find lar good for noob like me.. since got eTTL.. |
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Oct 6 2010, 07:38 PM
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Haha. I bought that flash for my bro-in-law, from sunnyboy. Used set, 3 1/2 months old for only RM 110.
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Oct 6 2010, 08:14 PM
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lol.. yours cheaper lidat..
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Oct 6 2010, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(aidlover @ Oct 6 2010, 07:20 PM) just bought a cheap cheap flash.. but nothing to shoot with.. how much? where u buy? QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 6 2010, 07:27 PM) hahaha u so rich you buy camera and lens like go pasar malam buy stuff like that manaada.jpg if i like that i already own 5DmkII and bunch of L lo QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 6 2010, 07:38 PM) Haha. I bought that flash for my bro-in-law, from sunnyboy. Used set, 3 1/2 months old for only RM 110. Nissin Di622? |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:33 PM
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Hello to everyone... i gt a question to ask.
I got a EFS 18-135 as my kit lens but i hardly fully utilize the zoom lens. Should i sell it and get another shorter zoom lens? How much can i sell the EFS 18-135?? Thanks |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:45 PM
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Y wan sell and get another zoom lens? U will rugi money leh.. How much did u pay for the lens? U buy with camera body ?
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Oct 6 2010, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 09:45 PM) Y wan sell and get another zoom lens? U will rugi money leh.. How much did u pay for the lens? U buy with camera body ? Feel like i dont need that kind of range. i got the lens together with my body. I bought it at RM3300 with the 550D body. But it still depends how much i can sell. So should i sell the 18-135 refund for better standard zoom lens?? This post has been edited by varickgoh: Oct 6 2010, 10:16 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:05 PM
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who says 50mm f/1.8 bokeh is ugly?
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Oct 6 2010, 10:10 PM
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hi all,
want to ask something to all canon sifuu... eos 1d mark iv only can support ef lens? if ef-s lens how?? cannot?? i've read review about it...and most of the review mention that only can mount with canon ef lens... also, can this camera use with third party lens (sigma, tokina, tamron)? sorry if i ask silly question. i'm still new in photography and decide to jump to canon.... about 1d mark iv.....just question it....bcoz my friend decide want to buy it... some very rich fren...hehehehe |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(onijoseph @ Oct 6 2010, 10:05 PM) who says 50mm f/1.8 bokeh is ugly? bokeh hood? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Oct 6 2010, 10:11 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(khairi83 @ Oct 6 2010, 10:10 PM) hi all, the review u read is true.want to ask something to all canon sifuu... eos 1d mark iv only can support ef lens? if ef-s lens how?? cannot?? i've read review about it...and most of the review mention that only can mount with canon ef lens... also, can this camera use with third party lens (sigma, tokina, tamron)? sorry if i ask silly question. i'm still new in photography and decide to jump to canon.... about 1d mark iv.....just question it....bcoz my friend decide want to buy it... some very rich fren...hehehehe only ef lens, not ef-s lens. as for third party lens, no problem at all. Added on October 6, 2010, 10:46 pm QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 6 2010, 10:10 PM) bokeh hood? no need hood, the technique so simple.This post has been edited by onijoseph: Oct 6 2010, 10:46 PM |
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QUOTE(khairi83 @ Oct 6 2010, 10:10 PM) hi all, EF-S lens is only designed for APS-C camera. Anything larger than that such as APS-H and full frame camera requires EF lens. 1D4 is a APS-H camera. EF-S lens have a notch with does not allow the user to mount it on APS-H and full frame.want to ask something to all canon sifuu... eos 1d mark iv only can support ef lens? if ef-s lens how?? cannot?? i've read review about it...and most of the review mention that only can mount with canon ef lens... also, can this camera use with third party lens (sigma, tokina, tamron)? sorry if i ask silly question. i'm still new in photography and decide to jump to canon.... about 1d mark iv.....just question it....bcoz my friend decide want to buy it... some very rich fren...hehehehe Third party lens, no problem. |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(onijoseph @ Oct 6 2010, 10:45 PM) the review u read is true. long exposure + a dragon shaped light source? only ef lens, not ef-s lens. as for third party lens, no problem at all. Added on October 6, 2010, 10:46 pm no need hood, the technique so simple. |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 6 2010, 12:33 AM) to start the new thread ill post my new baby and photo where u get ur 60D bro? |
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QUOTE(onijoseph @ Oct 6 2010, 10:45 PM) the review u read is true. how to do that?only ef lens, not ef-s lens. as for third party lens, no problem at all. Added on October 6, 2010, 10:46 pm no need hood, the technique so simple. |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 6 2010, 10:51 PM) long exposure + a dragon shaped light source? Just cut out any shape u want on a piece of black paper. Tape it in front of ur lens n that's it. 2 minute job. |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 6 2010, 10:47 PM) EF-S lens is only designed for APS-C camera. Anything larger than that such as APS-H and full frame camera requires EF lens. 1D4 is a APS-H camera. EF-S lens have a notch with does not allow the user to mount it on APS-H and full frame. concur. only red dot lens haha. the 1dmk4 is a 1.3 crop factor body though. hopefully 1dmk5 is FF then i will sell backside to upgrade.Third party lens, no problem. |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:56 PM
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Oct 6 2010, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 10:54 PM) Just cut out any shape u want on a piece of black paper. Tape it in front of ur lens n that's it. 2 minute job. that is the reason uncle is our sifu.bingo! |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 6 2010, 10:54 PM) Just cut out any shape u want on a piece of black paper. Tape it in front of ur lens n that's it. 2 minute job. yea, that is the bokeh hood i'm talking about. what u guys name it? |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(quineMc @ Oct 6 2010, 10:56 PM) the diy in the video is too troublesome.i just use a cardboard mounted in my cokin p system. |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(onijoseph @ Oct 6 2010, 11:45 PM) the review u read is true. meaning that if use for example sigma 17-50 f2.8.....no problem....only ef lens, not ef-s lens. as for third party lens, no problem at all. Added on October 6, 2010, 10:46 pm no need hood, the technique so simple. the camera still can perform as well?? anyway..thanks a lot for ur info.... Added on October 6, 2010, 11:08 pm QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 6 2010, 11:47 PM) EF-S lens is only designed for APS-C camera. Anything larger than that such as APS-H and full frame camera requires EF lens. 1D4 is a APS-H camera. EF-S lens have a notch with does not allow the user to mount it on APS-H and full frame. thanks bro..Third party lens, no problem. This post has been edited by khairi83: Oct 6 2010, 11:08 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:10 PM
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what do u mean still no problem? all third party has red dot, but not all designed for FF.. in this case sigma 17-50 is desgined for 1.6x crop sensor.
if attached to 5d mark II, still can work, but will have vignetting. i believe if u mount this lens on 1.3x crop sensor, u will see vignetting as well |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 6 2010, 11:10 PM) what do u mean still no problem? all third party has red dot, but not all designed for FF.. in this case sigma 17-50 is desgined for 1.6x crop sensor. autofocus still works. but as michael pointed out, there will be some vignetting at the wider zoom.if attached to 5d mark II, still can work, but will have vignetting. i believe if u mount this lens on 1.3x crop sensor, u will see vignetting as well but that is only for third party lens designed for aps-c. there are also third party lens dedicated to FF. This post has been edited by onijoseph: Oct 6 2010, 11:14 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 7 2010, 12:10 AM) what do u mean still no problem? all third party has red dot, but not all designed for FF.. in this case sigma 17-50 is desgined for 1.6x crop sensor. ok...meaning that if mount on the FF camera then will have vignette..if attached to 5d mark II, still can work, but will have vignetting. i believe if u mount this lens on 1.3x crop sensor, u will see vignetting as well what i understand in sony gear..if FF camera..need to use FF lens rite.. if use aps-c lens..then will have vignette. in this case, 1d mark iv is 1.3x crop sensor, so if use non-FF lens, then will have vignette also... isit rite? EF lens is FF lens? sorry coz ask soo many question? |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:17 PM
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I'm so excited over next week!
 Monday - Lunch with colleagues at Iketeru Japanese Restaurant in KL Hilton. Hope I can get some nice shots on the Shashimi, sushi, unagi and etc. Tuesday - Friday - Will be in Langkawi. Better get my batteries charged and memory card ready. |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:18 PM
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Sigma 17-50 f2.8 n Tamron 17-50 f2.8 totally CANNOT use on FF camera 1 la. It comes out with a big black circle around the frame.
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Oct 6 2010, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(onijoseph @ Oct 7 2010, 12:13 AM) autofocus still works. but as michael pointed out, there will be some vignetting at the wider zoom. bro, can u give some example third party lens that design to FFbut that is only for third party lens designed for aps-c. there are also third party lens dedicated to FF. normal zoom...17-50mm for example?? thanks a lot for ur info. |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(crocs @ Oct 6 2010, 10:56 PM) concur. only red dot lens haha. the 1dmk4 is a 1.3 crop factor body though. hopefully 1dmk5 is FF then i will sell backside to upgrade. Since when got 1D with FF sensor 1? U want FF, u hafta go for 1Ds. U can start selling ur bekside now coz 1Ds MkIII is rm29k.Added on October 6, 2010, 11:21 pm QUOTE(khairi83 @ Oct 6 2010, 11:18 PM) bro, can u give some example third party lens that design to FF FF lenses will mostly be 16-35mm f2.8 or 24-70mm f2.8 or 28-70mm f2.8.normal zoom...17-50mm for example?? thanks a lot for ur info. This post has been edited by ianho: Oct 6 2010, 11:21 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 7 2010, 12:20 AM) Since when got 1D with FF sensor 1? U want FF, u hafta go for 1Ds. U can start selling ur bekside now coz 1Ds MkIII is rm29k. isit canon lens??Added on October 6, 2010, 11:21 pm FF lenses will mostly be 16-35mm f2.8 or 24-70mm f2.8 or 28-70mm f2.8. sigma/tamron have??? canon 16-35 f2.8 if i not mistaken around 6k rite....giler mahal...huhuh |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:29 PM
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16-35mm f/2.8L II is giler mahal?
That is one of ianho's favourite lenses. You haven't seen his 28-300mm yet. That one costs nearly RM 10k, best for walkabout. |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:30 PM
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Today I saw a used 16-35L Mark I selling for 3800. Good price?
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Oct 6 2010, 11:31 PM
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Canon 60d cameout already....anyone knows how much is the price?
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Oct 6 2010, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 7 2010, 12:30 AM) Today I saw a used 16-35L Mark I selling for 3800. Good price? huh....rm3800..still mahal.....huhuhuh |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 6 2010, 11:30 PM) Today I saw a used 16-35L Mark I selling for 3800. Good price? How's your FF transformation? Now looking for lenses to couple with it eh? |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 6 2010, 06:19 PM) I thought i heard someone mentioning KLCC Canon store has 2 60D demo units already? Don need heard liao...You want to jump ship? i can confirm tat... i jus been there this morning got 60D + 18-55mm and 60D + 18-200mm demo set but both also no battery one they quote me rm4.8k++ for 18-200mm package.. |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:33 PM
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more reading on how to create unique bokeh.
http://www.diyphotography.net/removing-the...rt-shaped-bokeh http://www.diyphotography.net/diy_create_your_own_bokeh QUOTE(khairi83 @ Oct 6 2010, 11:18 PM) bro, can u give some example third party lens that design to FF they are written in the lens name description.normal zoom...17-50mm for example?? thanks a lot for ur info. as far as i know, sigma fullframe lens is marked DG, (e.g. 24-70mm f2.8 EX DG) while sigma aps-c lens is marked with DC. tamron fullframe lens is marked Di (e.g. 28-75mm f2.8 XR Di) while tamron aps-c is marked Di II. |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(ptit @ Oct 6 2010, 11:31 PM) Canon 60d cameout already....anyone knows how much is the price? RM3050 for body ~ around 3.9k with 18-135 kit |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(crocs @ Oct 6 2010, 10:56 PM) concur. only red dot lens haha. the 1dmk4 is a 1.3 crop factor body though. hopefully 1dmk5 is FF then i will sell backside to upgrade. since when canon launch 1D mark 5? haha, lol, btw, canon FF series consist of only 1Ds and 5D |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(khairi83 @ Oct 6 2010, 11:27 PM) isit canon lens?? U say ur friend wanna buy 1D MkIV but then complaining that a rm6k lens is mahal? Then put rm1k lens on 1D MkIV kah? Aiyoyoooooooooooooooo........................sigma/tamron have??? canon 16-35 f2.8 if i not mistaken around 6k rite....giler mahal...huhuh |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:00 AM
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bid ended loh...
wth only can place 3 bid perday This post has been edited by gambateh: Oct 7 2010, 12:02 AM |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:01 AM
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Wah, 60D on Canon e-bidding has just ended. Guess, how much was that?! Freaking RM 2,556 only!! Whoever got that really most lucky person on Earth.
I didn't know one day can only bid thrice. Wonder if Redcross or Alex got it? |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(gambateh @ Oct 7 2010, 12:00 AM) bid ended loh... They close it in the last 3 seconds and said the bidding have reached the reserved price.wth only can play 3 bid perday |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:02 AM
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i bid on last 6sec but cant press d~
haha no luck for me |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Oct 7 2010, 12:02 AM) They close it in the last 3 seconds and said the bidding have reached the reserved price. There was a reserved price?I thought minimum increment is RM 1.00 then we may place the figure we like. |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 7 2010, 12:01 AM) Wah, 60D on Canon e-bidding has just ended. Guess, how much was that?! Freaking RM 2,556 only!! Whoever got that really most lucky person on Earth. it was 12:05 when i realise the bidding contest I didn't know one day can only bid thrice. Wonder if Redcross or Alex got it? |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:09 AM
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There was a time hang b4 i click the last second....
it was like 4sec remaining....then suddenly hang, then expired.... WTF! |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 7 2010, 12:04 AM) There was a reserved price? I'm not sure about that. I thought minimum increment is RM 1.00 then we may place the figure we like. I thought of bid at the final 1 second but suddenly they straight close the bidding. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by XiuKeong: Oct 7 2010, 12:10 AM |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:12 AM
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last 8 second i oredi cant press ...
main busuk ni |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:12 AM
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*Pats everyone*
Everyone tried their best. Perhaps God is telling you to get the 7D or a FF. |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 7 2010, 12:12 AM) *Pats everyone* Agreed! lol its not my time to change~Everyone tried their best. Perhaps God is telling you to get the 7D or a FF. Im getting poison by FF already slowly by slowly.... mayb i might end up with a 5DMkI or 1DsMkI |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(gambateh @ Oct 7 2010, 12:12 AM) last 8 second i oredi cant press ... main busuk ni QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 7 2010, 12:12 AM) *Pats everyone* haha, thank god!Everyone tried their best. Perhaps God is telling you to get the 7D or a FF. |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:17 AM
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my last bid price ....2496
haha...tekan for fun...dun hantam me... |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(Redcross @ Oct 7 2010, 12:16 AM) Agreed! lol its not my time to change~ PM forum got a 5D1 still with warranty maaaaan. Faster go sapuuuuuuuuuuuIm getting poison by FF already slowly by slowly.... mayb i might end up with a 5DMkI or 1DsMkI |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 7 2010, 12:18 AM) PM forum got a 5D1 still with warranty maaaaan. Faster go sapuuuuuuuuuuu As long you sapu something I support! ianho, you bought your 300f2.8 already? I keep dreaming about it everyday . Thinking of adding one to my arsenal when I shoot concerts This post has been edited by azrinarizz: Oct 7 2010, 12:23 AM |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 7 2010, 12:18 AM) PM forum got a 5D1 still with warranty maaaaan. Faster go sapuuuuuuuuuuu still insufficient cash....... |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:56 AM
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hi everyone~ i'm bak and as promise i gonna show my result of multiple exposure shot~ the picture came out isnt as nice as it shown on my 450D screen...*got cheated by the screen again* this photo is non-edited~ just added the words~ C&C r welcome~ still trying to calculate the time needed for more exposure~ this photo only hv two exposure~ » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Oct 7 2010, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(wingster @ Oct 6 2010, 06:47 PM) I have no idea where to get it by the way, even I found it might not have the aperture ring control :/ hahaha who say you cnot control the aperture, got laa, haha must rajin cari this adapter with aperture control, then u'll find it! QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 6 2010, 11:17 PM) I'm so excited over next week! who so nice la you get to shoot more food, watch your flickr terus perut bergendang2 Monday - Lunch with colleagues at Iketeru Japanese Restaurant in KL Hilton. Hope I can get some nice shots on the Shashimi, sushi, unagi and etc. Tuesday - Friday - Will be in Langkawi. Better get my batteries charged and memory card ready. QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 7 2010, 12:56 AM) hi everyone~ i'm bak and as promise i gonna show my result of multiple exposure shot~ the picture came out isnt as nice as it shown on my 450D screen...*got cheated by the screen again* bro, try with two different contrasting colour, like a deep blue sky with your picture or etc this photo is non-edited~ just added the words~ C&C r welcome~ still trying to calculate the time needed for more exposure~ this photo only hv two exposure~ just bought my 50mm 1.8II from DY Divine, Timesquare! hahaah, now can play with f1.8 kaw kaw . coupled it with Marumi Super DHG from International Camera Service - Pertama ComplexThis post has been edited by azrash: Oct 7 2010, 02:23 AM |
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Oct 7 2010, 04:18 AM
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QUOTE(Redcross @ Oct 7 2010, 12:16 AM) Agreed! lol its not my time to change~ if u're patient enough u should wait and get the 5dmkii instead. the price r dropping anyway.Im getting poison by FF already slowly by slowly.... mayb i might end up with a 5DMkI or 1DsMkI |
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Oct 7 2010, 05:53 AM
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someone requested for the close up quality of the lens.. so i tried my best ar to shoot some flowers.. but also some other objects as well. i dunno how to do 100% crop, i just use windows paint. select the flower and crop it my own way.. sry! the first two pictures are unedited. since also got ppl wanna see OOC pictures.. hehe.. the rests are tweaked abit at lightroom cuz the WB got messed up in some of the photos =.= i was using cloudy to shoot the affected pictures. the first picture of the flower is abit unsharp. shot at f5 at 1/60.. and abit windy.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Oct 7 2010, 08:38 AM
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^shot at MFD already?
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Oct 7 2010, 08:54 AM
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u mean the purple flower? i tot i have written there clearly...
i don think its MFD. maybe stil can go nearer by few cm. |
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Oct 7 2010, 08:55 AM
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Lol Michaelbyz really becoming next fisherman dy
Anyway, here's a shot from a recent trip! Guess where » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « First trip with my new Manfrotto Kinda annoyed that the sky was overcast though. I bought a set of 58mm UV, Cpl and ND8 for $60 USD to be used but didn't use the Cpl at all cause of the sky. Only used ND8 most of the time. |
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Oct 7 2010, 08:58 AM
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miniature? nice, can capture the sky and the land...
how you did that ar? must really be in a good position i guess.. hmm.... This post has been edited by Michaelbyz23: Oct 7 2010, 09:01 AM |
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Oct 7 2010, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 7 2010, 08:54 AM) u mean the purple flower? i tot i have written there clearly... i knw u stated there but duno for which picture... i don think its MFD. maybe stil can go nearer by few cm. |
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Oct 7 2010, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(azrash @ Oct 7 2010, 02:19 AM) bro, try with two different contrasting colour, like a deep blue sky with your picture or etc ya gonna try landscape one today coz last night raining so only tested in my room~just bought my 50mm 1.8II from DY Divine, Timesquare! hahaah, now can play with f1.8 kaw kaw . coupled it with Marumi Super DHG from International Camera Service - Pertama ComplexAdded on October 7, 2010, 9:39 am QUOTE(Earendil @ Oct 7 2010, 08:55 AM) Lol Michaelbyz really becoming next fisherman dy isit niagara fall~? Anyway, here's a shot from a recent trip! Guess where » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « First trip with my new Manfrotto Kinda annoyed that the sky was overcast though. I bought a set of 58mm UV, Cpl and ND8 for $60 USD to be used but didn't use the Cpl at all cause of the sky. Only used ND8 most of the time.Added on October 7, 2010, 9:42 am QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 7 2010, 05:53 AM) someone requested for the close up quality of the lens.. so i tried my best ar to shoot some flowers.. but also some other objects as well.
i dunno how to do 100% crop, i just use windows paint. select the flower and crop it my own way.. sry! the first two pictures are unedited. since also got ppl wanna see OOC pictures.. hehe.. the rests are tweaked abit at lightroom cuz the WB got messed up in some of the photos =.= i was using cloudy to shoot the affected pictures. the first picture of the flower is abit unsharp. shot at f5 at 1/60.. and abit windy.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « bro, for cropping just open ur RAW photo in photoshop then a window will come out~ below there select 100% and then just use the crop tool crop out the part u wan~This post has been edited by chinti: Oct 7 2010, 09:43 AM |
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Oct 7 2010, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 7 2010, 05:53 AM) someone requested for the close up quality of the lens.. so i tried my best ar to shoot some flowers.. but also some other objects as well.
i dunno how to do 100% crop, i just use windows paint. select the flower and crop it my own way.. sry! the first two pictures are unedited. since also got ppl wanna see OOC pictures.. hehe.. the rests are tweaked abit at lightroom cuz the WB got messed up in some of the photos =.= i was using cloudy to shoot the affected pictures. the first picture of the flower is abit unsharp. shot at f5 at 1/60.. and abit windy.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Dang Dang Dang... I veli like this lens oledi. |
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QUOTE(rayzaw @ Oct 7 2010, 04:18 AM) if u're patient enough u should wait and get the 5dmkii instead. the price r dropping anyway. ya, totally agree wat you said, for those kena poison with FF, have to be patient and get 5DMKII.This post has been edited by angelbird6860: Oct 7 2010, 10:05 AM |
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Oct 7 2010, 10:16 AM
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The close up i was talking about is the last picture of course. the first few pictures is just normal shots ... hehe..
sry for not making it clear to you guys. and sorry, first picture also close up. but not till MFD i think. This post has been edited by Michaelbyz23: Oct 7 2010, 10:16 AM |
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Oct 7 2010, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 6 2010, 11:33 PM) How's your FF transformation? If I have tons of money extra, I will really get a 16-35L but it's just too expensive for me.Now looking for lenses to couple with it eh? My FF transformation, haven't turn well yet. Lol.. |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 7 2010, 09:38 AM) ya gonna try landscape one today coz last night raining so only tested in my room~ Yep it is. Unfortunately, he shot that on the not so good looking US side of the Falls. The Canadian side is better. I've been there quite a few times. Should go and take picture of it when they fire up the multi coloured spot lights.Added on October 7, 2010, 9:39 am isit niagara fall~? Now thats something that calls for weather resistance. They have the Maid of the Mist, boat ride that gets very close and very wet to the falls. |
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Oct 7 2010, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Oct 7 2010, 12:30 PM) Yep it is. Unfortunately, he shot that on the not so good looking US side of the Falls. The Canadian side is better. I've been there quite a few times. Should go and take picture of it when they fire up the multi coloured spot lights. Been there last time bt that time still haven't started photography~ very nice place for slow shutter photo~Now thats something that calls for weather resistance. They have the Maid of the Mist, boat ride that gets very close and very wet to the falls. |
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Oct 7 2010, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Oct 7 2010, 12:30 PM) Yep it is. Unfortunately, he shot that on the not so good looking US side of the Falls. The Canadian side is better. I've been there quite a few times. Should go and take picture of it when they fire up the multi coloured spot lights. Yeap, it's the Niagara Falls. Can't get to the Canadian side cause I don't have the visa so it's kinda sad. I would have took pictures of the lights too but then the lights were fired up too late. Had to get on my bus back dy. Unfortunately I don't have any weather-sealed gears so I didn't dare to take photos during the Maid of the Mist. It's like practically taking a shower!Now thats something that calls for weather resistance. They have the Maid of the Mist, boat ride that gets very close and very wet to the falls. |
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Oct 7 2010, 02:01 PM
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 OOC shot 7D + 100mm f2.8 what da ya think? its a macro lens. |
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Oct 7 2010, 02:34 PM
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magnificent shot! very sharp and super nice =D wow... composition is near perfect too! last spam before i sleep~ » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 7 2010, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(rayzaw @ Oct 7 2010, 02:01 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « OOC shot 7D + 100mm f2.8 what da ya think? its a macro lens. 100mm f2.8 macro not L rite? |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:16 PM
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Oct 7 2010, 03:22 PM
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Wow. I just received the price list of 60D, ( From shop one ). RM2999 for Body only.. That's almost same as 50D.... O gosh~~~
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Oct 7 2010, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(jeremyocc @ Oct 7 2010, 02:56 PM) super sharp ty for the compliments... hard to catch the moments while the horse keeps moving........ and eating grass. but i guess im kinda satisfied with this since both of em look so happy. 100mm f2.8 macro not L rite? its the L with IS lens. very silent n fast focus. ideal for both macro n portrait (racun) This post has been edited by rayzaw: Oct 7 2010, 03:27 PM |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(rayzaw @ Oct 7 2010, 03:27 PM) ty for the compliments... hard to catch the moments while the horse keeps moving........ and eating grass. but i guess im kinda satisfied with this since both of em look so happy. Wow!! this would be my next lens... its the L with IS lens. very silent n fast focus. ideal for both macro n portrait (racun) |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(rayzaw @ Oct 7 2010, 03:27 PM) ty for the compliments... hard to catch the moments while the horse keeps moving........ and eating grass. but i guess im kinda satisfied with this since both of em look so happy. sifu how much is that lens?its the L with IS lens. very silent n fast focus. ideal for both macro n portrait (racun) |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 7 2010, 03:35 PM) sifu how much is that lens? Rm3150 quoted form Hike Ent. in Penang. |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Oct 7 2010, 03:22 PM) Wow. I just received the price list of 60D, ( From shop one ). RM2999 for Body only.. That's almost same as 50D.... O gosh~~~ Which shop is it? I want to grab one soon. QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 7 2010, 03:35 PM) sifu how much is that lens? Prices for lenses can refer to places online such as Shashinki or mylensdb. |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(Chiet @ Oct 7 2010, 03:37 PM) Which shop is it? I want to grab one soon. Price i got it from skydrake. Shop is in digital mall |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Oct 7 2010, 03:38 PM) Price i got it from skydrake. Shop is in digital mall Most seller selling around that price i got mine around the sameThis post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Oct 7 2010, 03:42 PM |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:43 PM
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No need get L also can lar
Normal 100mm Macro already sharp  unless u got more money to throw away, get the L lens~ Else the non-L shud do already |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 7 2010, 03:35 PM) sifu how much is that lens? i bought for rm3300 in JB.. u get 1 la sifu..i see u like taking close-up picsQUOTE(jeremyocc @ Oct 7 2010, 03:37 PM) Rm3150 quoted form Hike Ent. in Penang. that is cheaper than when i bought » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « when analog meets the 100mm. and an expired film. |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:45 PM
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too many pros and poison di L L L L L L
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Oct 7 2010, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 7 2010, 03:42 PM) Most seller selling around that price i got mine around the same Wow you got it already? man I'm such as slowpoke.... Gonna get it.... now got actuall rough price, can argue argue abit liao muahhaa |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(rayzaw @ Oct 7 2010, 03:45 PM) i bought for rm3300 in JB.. u get 1 la sifu..i see u like taking close-up pics next next now no money di sai lang all on the 60D hehe. that is cheaper than when i bought » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « when analog meets the 100mm. and an expired film. next next i was thinking to get the 50mm 1.8 first Added on October 7, 2010, 3:48 pm QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Oct 7 2010, 03:46 PM) Wow you got it already? man I'm such as slowpoke.... Gonna get it.... now got actuall rough price, can argue argue abit liao muahhaa I got it on the day it available in marketmy opening shot  This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Oct 7 2010, 03:52 PM |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(Redcross @ Oct 7 2010, 03:43 PM) No need get L also can lar sharp yes ... color n bokehness... i say L ftw. just my opinion base from trying those lenses lah..Normal 100mm Macro already sharp unless u got more money to throw away, get the L lens~ Else the non-L shud do already |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:51 PM
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Yeah, the non-L is already sufficiently sharp. Any serious macro photography will always involve a good tripod anyway. That and at f/9 or narrower, the IS isn't going to matter anymore.
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Oct 7 2010, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 7 2010, 03:47 PM) next next now no money di sai lang all on the 60D hehe. hey congrats on the 60D... its a great tool. yes go get the 50mm 1.8. still using it till now.next next i was thinking to get the 50mm 1.8 first Added on October 7, 2010, 3:48 pm I got it on the day it available in market my opening shot |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(rayzaw @ Oct 7 2010, 03:52 PM) hey congrats on the 60D... its a great tool. yes go get the 50mm 1.8. still using it till now. thanks i saw your gallery on flickr i still have alot to learn from you |
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Oct 7 2010, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(Redcross @ Oct 7 2010, 03:43 PM) No need get L also can lar No L on the lens marking no syiok 1. Normal 100mm Macro already sharp » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « unless u got more money to throw away, get the L lens~ Else the non-L shud do already When using non L lens, whole body boh song . |
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Oct 7 2010, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 7 2010, 03:55 PM) No L on the lens marking no syiok 1. aiyah i know lar....but i "work wif budget" moto When using non L lens, whole body boh song . unless i fisherman job then no need worry lar U think i also dowan L? of cuz its poisonous and also with the new Hybrid IS and weather sealing body |
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Oct 7 2010, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 7 2010, 03:55 PM) No L on the lens marking no syiok 1. agree with ian.. no L no bo song When using non L lens, whole body boh song . everytime I went to Vivocity Canon shop seeing the display lens drooling till the floor wet... This post has been edited by jeremyocc: Oct 7 2010, 04:12 PM |
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Oct 7 2010, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 7 2010, 03:55 PM) No L on the lens marking no syiok 1. Chris Week say Canon glass boh song... he rather Zeiss wor When using non L lens, whole body boh song . |
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Oct 7 2010, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 7 2010, 03:55 PM) No L on the lens marking no syiok 1. but L lenses are not really good also When using non L lens, whole body boh song . *runs away frantically with my schneider lenses* |
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Oct 7 2010, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 7 2010, 04:49 PM) but L lenses are not really good also you mean not really good for the wallet? *runs away frantically with my schneider lenses* |
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Oct 7 2010, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 7 2010, 04:16 PM) Chris Week say Canon glass boh song... he rather Zeiss wor Cheh! U go chrisweeks.net. Look carefully at the pic in his About page see what camera he using la. That's what we call real glass. QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 7 2010, 04:49 PM) but L lenses are not really good also so action! *runs away frantically with my schneider lenses* Watodo, L is the best we can get for EOS oredi. But I hafta admit that the German L has really spoiled me. |
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Oct 7 2010, 05:57 PM
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hi, i wanna ask, did canon sell the eye piece extender for the 450D?
what model? how much? This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Oct 7 2010, 05:59 PM |
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Oct 7 2010, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 7 2010, 05:57 PM) hi, i wanna ask, did canon sell the eye piece extender for the 450D? The EX15 extender doesn't fit 450D. Some sales sites specify that it will work. They're idiots. what model? how much? |
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Oct 7 2010, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 7 2010, 05:57 PM) hi, i wanna ask, did canon sell the eye piece extender for the 450D? Even if it fits... don't waste your money on EX15. It's rubbish.what model? how much? |
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Oct 7 2010, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 7 2010, 06:14 PM) Even if it fits... don't waste your money on EX15. It's rubbish. It's good la. U just hafta remove the glass inside it. It's very nice coz ur nose doesn't touch the LCD with the EX15. |
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Oct 7 2010, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 7 2010, 06:05 PM) The EX15 extender doesn't fit 450D. Some sales sites specify that it will work. They're idiots. QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 7 2010, 06:14 PM) Even if it fits... don't waste your money on EX15. It's rubbish. only got 1 eyepiece extender? what u guys mean don't fit?? how it doesn't fit? |
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Oct 7 2010, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 7 2010, 06:27 PM) It's good la. U just hafta remove the glass inside it. It's very nice coz ur nose doesn't touch the LCD with the EX15. I did remove the glass...but while it does extend out the viewfinder a bit. I find that the fit isn't that good.. a bit loose and sometimes it'll just dislodge itself inside my bag. |
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Oct 7 2010, 07:10 PM
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http://www.canon.com.my/section/digitalcam...enses/index.jsp
i found 1 in Canon website, it is for 450D one. EYEPIECE EXTENDER EP-EX15II(450D) RM150 shashinki selling also. http://shashinki.com/shop/canon-eyepiece-e...50d-p-1512.html RM150 This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Oct 7 2010, 07:12 PM |
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Oct 7 2010, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 7 2010, 05:47 PM) Cheh! U go chrisweeks.net. Look carefully at the pic in his About page see what camera he using la. That's what we call real glass. German L is really extremely tempting. Lucky the cheapest German L digital rangefinder oso so mahal so action! Watodo, L is the best we can get for EOS oredi. But I hafta admit that the German L has really spoiled me. Ian, you know any cheap digital rangefinder body that can mount German L lens? |
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Oct 7 2010, 09:26 PM
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Digital rangefinders? There are only 3.
Epson R-D1 and Leica M8/8.2 and M9. And no, the Epson isn't cheap either. |
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Oct 7 2010, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(khaiandrew @ Oct 7 2010, 08:19 PM) German L is really extremely tempting. Lucky the cheapest German L digital rangefinder oso so mahal Look for the Epson R-D1. Very nice camera. That's the only alternative. Ian, you know any cheap digital rangefinder body that can mount German L lens? |
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Oct 7 2010, 09:35 PM
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Canon EOS 60D RM2850 consider good deal?
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Oct 7 2010, 10:05 PM
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Sounds good but we can't really judge when there is only little 60D for sale. There are chances that it would be even cheaper when every sellers have the stock.
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Oct 7 2010, 10:57 PM
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first time trying panning and a noob bird shot~ C&C are welcome~ need tips on letting my photo shap~ please n ty~
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Oct 7 2010, 11:03 PM
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My horizon doesn't look straight. But somehow my little curved hill looks normal.
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Oct 7 2010, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(azrinarizz @ Oct 7 2010, 11:03 PM) My horizon doesn't look straight. But somehow my little curved hill looks normal. WOW~ nice shot bro~ got edit~? |
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Oct 7 2010, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(azrinarizz @ Oct 7 2010, 11:03 PM) My horizon doesn't look straight. But somehow my little curved hill looks normal. What la uuuuuuuu. 7D got horizon meter oso senget. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 7 2010, 11:42 PM
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Naaooooo, the epson 6mp crop sensor oso 3k usd
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Oct 8 2010, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(azrinarizz @ Oct 7 2010, 11:03 PM) My horizon doesn't look straight. But somehow my little curved hill looks normal. You can correct by DPP. Your horizon offset is -1.31 degree. Try it |
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Oct 8 2010, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(khaiandrew @ Oct 7 2010, 11:42 PM) Naaooooo, the epson 6mp crop sensor oso 3k usd Look for 2nd hand shud be cheap coz Epson doesn't hold value.QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 8 2010, 12:15 AM) You can correct by DPP. Your horizon offset is -1.31 degree. Try it DPP got levelling feature oredi meh? Mana ada????? |
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Oct 8 2010, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Oct 7 2010, 03:22 PM) Wow. I just received the price list of 60D, ( From shop one ). RM2999 for Body only.. That's almost same as 50D.... O gosh~~~ we shall see it become 2800 soon or later |
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Oct 8 2010, 04:27 AM
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QUOTE(xLegato @ Oct 7 2010, 09:26 PM) Digital rangefinders? There are only 3. haihhh... that epson r-d1... i've tried that b4... cool gila! cant afford to buy. costs abt rm12k++ if im not mistaken.Epson R-D1 and Leica M8/8.2 and M9. And no, the Epson isn't cheap either. |
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Oct 8 2010, 06:52 AM
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i think the B+W UV filter kinda degrade the quality of my pictures.. hmm.. all the pictures i take outdoors seem to be whitish and lose contrast. then ghosting issue quite serious.. >.< B+W 65-070156 77mm UVA Haze Filter #010 on the filter there, it says Haze x1 (what does this mean) this is the filter im using.. sifus, any problem with this filter? like is this filter has its on specific usage? a sample image with the B+W uv filter on » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Oct 8 2010, 08:11 AM
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awesome picture azrin
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Oct 8 2010, 08:16 AM
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anyone used before close up filter? is it worth to add up on to a 50mm 1.8 ?
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 8 2010, 08:16 AM) anyone used before close up filter? is it worth to add up on to a 50mm 1.8 ? Just reverse mount it  |
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Been away for quite some time... time to spam some photos
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QUOTE(khaiandrew @ Oct 8 2010, 09:02 AM) Just reverse mount it He might be asking about close-up +4? That is something reverse mount can't achieve. |
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u using MRC version or not? QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 8 2010, 07:52 AM) i think the B+W UV filter kinda degrade the quality of my pictures.. hmm.. all the pictures i take outdoors seem to be whitish and lose contrast. then ghosting issue quite serious.. >.<
B+W 65-070156 77mm UVA Haze Filter #010 on the filter there, it says Haze x1 (what does this mean) this is the filter im using.. sifus, any problem with this filter? like is this filter has its on specific usage? a sample image with the B+W uv filter on » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by 168257061: Oct 8 2010, 09:55 AM |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:54 AM
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hi bro, no.. im not using the multi coated version. just the most simplest UV filter. the full name is exactly what i provide on my previous post lo.. so what do u think sifus?
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Oct 8 2010, 10:10 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « nice photos mate like the birdy This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Oct 8 2010, 10:43 AM |
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Oct 8 2010, 10:23 AM
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my pic taken from my camera now all got this red dot. 1 pixel. how ah? need send back servicing?
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Oct 8 2010, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 8 2010, 10:10 AM) nice photos mate like the birdy Can you please add spoiler when you quote a post that contains photo(s)? |
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Oct 8 2010, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 8 2010, 10:54 AM) hi bro, no.. im not using the multi coated version. just the most simplest UV filter. the full name is exactly what i provide on my previous post lo.. so what do u think sifus? the non mrc sucsks imo |
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Oct 8 2010, 10:39 AM
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So basically means don get the non Mrc version? Aih, that non Mrc is not cheap though. Never knew that b+w non Mrc version sux, in your opinion..
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Oct 8 2010, 10:42 AM
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every filter company like hoya, kenko or b+w has varying type of filters.
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For B+W, try getting their X-pro and KSM series
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Oct 8 2010, 10:53 AM) For B+W, try getting their X-pro and KSM series All u lich buggers! I only using K4N4SA1 brand filters. |
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 8 2010, 11:39 AM) So basically means don get the non Mrc version? Aih, that non Mrc is not cheap though. Never knew that b+w non Mrc version sux, in your opinion.. all the b+w we mentioned mostly with MRC coated wan ma btw how is ur sigma 17-50 2.8 os ? QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Oct 8 2010, 11:53 AM) For B+W, try getting their X-pro and KSM series KSM CPL is for lich bugger QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 8 2010, 11:58 AM) All u lich buggers! I only using K4N4SA1 brand filters. orly ? |
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Oct 8 2010, 11:05 AM
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the lens worked superbly perfect. no problem with it so far. it is indeed designed that way.
after putting the b+w filter, the photo quality degraded.. tats all lo.. but shoot indoors not much problem i guess. the problem is when shooting outdoors. |
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Oct 8 2010, 11:09 AM
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@michael:f2.8 does help a lot in low light?
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Oct 8 2010, 11:18 AM
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Yes if u compare to kit lens f5.6. With kit lens at lowlight I may have to pump iso to 1600 to get over 100 shutter speed. With this one 800 or sometimes 400 will do.Brew I'm not saying that iso 400 can have 1/100s ar.. Don misunderstood me..
That's for me and what I observe. And this os performs better than kit lens is. Again this is also my personal observation. So that's why I can use 400 or 800iso for this lens but 1600 for kit lens lo.. Better weigh and ergonomics also affect ur handshake intensity. Too light will make me shake more.. Those r my style and my personal preference ar.. Btw the Mrc filter is soo expensive. After concert to Malaysia os around 260 to 300+.. T.T can buy new nifty fifty liaw This post has been edited by Michaelbyz23: Oct 8 2010, 11:23 AM |
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 8 2010, 11:18 AM) Yes if u compare to kit lens f5.6. With kit lens at lowlight I may have to pump iso to 1600 to get over 100 shutter speed. With this one 800 or sometimes 400 will do.Brew I'm not saying that iso 400 can have 1/100s ar.. Don misunderstood me.. Speaking of which.... how's the balance of the siggy on ur 500D body. U dun use BG right?That's for me and what I observe. And this os performs better than kit lens is. Again this is also my personal observation. So that's why I can use 400 or 800iso for this lens but 1600 for kit lens lo.. Better weigh and ergonomics also affect ur handshake intensity. Too light will make me shake more.. Those r my style and my personal preference ar.. Btw the Mrc filter is soo expensive. After concert to Malaysia os around 260 to 300+.. T.T can buy new nifty fifty liaw |
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Oct 8 2010, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 8 2010, 11:18 AM) Yes if u compare to kit lens f5.6. With kit lens at lowlight I may have to pump iso to 1600 to get over 100 shutter speed. With this one 800 or sometimes 400 will do.Brew I'm not saying that iso 400 can have 1/100s ar.. Don misunderstood me.. Sell off your Nifty Fifty lo That's for me and what I observe. And this os performs better than kit lens is. Again this is also my personal observation. So that's why I can use 400 or 800iso for this lens but 1600 for kit lens lo.. Better weigh and ergonomics also affect ur handshake intensity. Too light will make me shake more.. Those r my style and my personal preference ar.. Btw the Mrc filter is soo expensive. After concert to Malaysia os around 260 to 300+.. T.T can buy new nifty fifty liaw I doubt u be using your nifty fifty that much from now on |
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Oct 8 2010, 11:50 AM
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I am using a bg.. If u noticed. Haha. It is much more balance but definitely heavier. Hmm I Just used my nifty fifty just now to capture the sigma lens. Lol. I think i posted at flickr.
At USA I don really know how to sell stuffs yet.. Wait till I m more comfortable with the buy n sell system here first. Hehe.. |
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Oct 8 2010, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 8 2010, 11:09 AM) @michael:f2.8 does help a lot in low light? if i may, most definitely it helps with focusing speed tooThis post has been edited by crocs: Oct 8 2010, 12:06 PM |
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Oct 8 2010, 12:07 PM
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Hmmm crocs, I wanna ask .. The hsm USm motors dont really mean better iq rite? It provides faster and silent focus.. But it sometimes got messed up n unable to focus I dark place.. Or when it's too bright, like a bit of the sun is in the frame.. Hmmm.. Do correct me if I'm wrong.
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Oct 8 2010, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 8 2010, 12:07 PM) Hmmm crocs, I wanna ask .. The hsm USm motors dont really mean better iq rite? It provides faster and silent focus.. But it sometimes got messed up n unable to focus I dark place.. Or when it's too bright, like a bit of the sun is in the frame.. Hmmm.. Do correct me if I'm wrong. right, the usm is just the motor, the IQ depends on the glass inside. it's unable to focus is because the focus point doesnt have enough contrast to focus cos it's too dark or everything is the same color in the dark . thats why a 2.8 easily focusses better than a 3.5-5.6 lens. even if u r shooting at f8, it still focusses at 2.8. other factors that affect is body also la but just focussing my comment on the lens for this one. my 2sen This post has been edited by crocs: Oct 8 2010, 12:35 PM |
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Oct 8 2010, 12:41 PM
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guys guys, any promotion around kl for tripod? hopefully under rm100
looking for it asap! ;( |
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Oct 8 2010, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 8 2010, 12:05 PM) the lens worked superbly perfect. no problem with it so far. it is indeed designed that way. haiya.... u shud buy the B+W XS-PRO MRC anyway after putting the b+w filter, the photo quality degraded.. tats all lo.. but shoot indoors not much problem i guess. the problem is when shooting outdoors. got any sample of sharpness ? wide end center and zoomest end center @2.8 |
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Oct 8 2010, 01:12 PM
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hmmm... sample of sharpness ar.. i posted most of the pictures on flickr already. quite busy cuz of studies..so i don really have time to test the sharpness.. mayb in future i will do some test to compare this lens with kit lens and nifty fifty. btw, after i use the b+w filter, one of the pictures i noticed that there is some serious chromatic aberation (red line) at bottom left if i zoom in. and also the whole picture is whitish, de-constrasted. like i said just now. sharp, trust me it is xD hehe... oh ya, i wan to clarify smth.. the OS works well despite the rattling sound, since it is designed that way. sigma technician emailed me and clarified with me liaw. the sigma lens with OS mechanism will have the sound, like for example, the 17-70 OS also.. for further explanation of why... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Oct 8 2010, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 8 2010, 12:27 AM) Look for 2nd hand shud be cheap coz Epson doesn't hold value. I am using 3.8.10. Update yours.DPP got levelling feature oredi meh? Mana ada????? |
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Oct 8 2010, 03:08 PM
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wanna ask smth~ does overexposure photo shown on ur dslr screen always come out better compare to those 'ngam ngam' exposure n underexposure photo when upload to pc~?
i found out all my ngam ngam n underexposure pic came out nt sharp when upload to pc~ |
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Oct 8 2010, 03:21 PM
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the photo you see on your dslr screen is deceptive because (i) a slightly blurry/oof shot when zoomed out to the 3" size on your dslr will look perfectly sharp; and (ii) the actual brightness you perceive on your dslr screen is relative to the brightness settings and whether you are in a dark room or bright sunshine.
for (i) you need to zoom in all the way to check sharpness; for (ii) ... learn to use histogram i guess. [edit] your PC screen is uncalibrated (i assume). so when you print the photo, what looks good on your pc screen could well turn out to be over/under on the print too This post has been edited by deodorant: Oct 8 2010, 03:22 PM |
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Oct 8 2010, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Oct 8 2010, 03:21 PM) the photo you see on your dslr screen is deceptive because (i) a slightly blurry/oof shot when zoomed out to the 3" size on your dslr will look perfectly sharp; and (ii) the actual brightness you perceive on your dslr screen is relative to the brightness settings and whether you are in a dark room or bright sunshine. wow...sound complicated...so i should trust my dslr screen or computer screen~?for (i) you need to zoom in all the way to check sharpness; for (ii) ... learn to use histogram i guess. [edit] your PC screen is uncalibrated (i assume). so when you print the photo, what looks good on your pc screen could well turn out to be over/under on the print too erm...any website 2 learn to use histogram~? i dun understand at all those chart n so on... |
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Oct 8 2010, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(mauinsons @ Oct 8 2010, 09:03 AM) Been away for quite some time... time to spam some photos bro, please enlighten me » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «  the 1st picture u taken with a tripod + long exposure? the last photo(a.k.a bird photo) u taken with what lens? so sharp and so bokehness! QUOTE(RobustRobot @ Oct 8 2010, 12:41 PM) guys guys, any promotion around kl for tripod? hopefully under rm100 seriously, add another RM50 and u will get a better one, just look it this way, add in another RM50 u can save your RM2000 gear from dropping on the ground just because of the cheapo RM100 tripod is unstablelooking for it asap! ;( |
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Oct 8 2010, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 8 2010, 08:16 AM) anyone used before close up filter? is it worth to add up on to a 50mm 1.8 ? I just tested the 50mm1.8 with hoya +4, and its quite nice, can get MFD to around 6-7cm. hahaha. but im contemplating of either buying the close up filter, or the raynox DCR250. the raynox can use on more lenses, the close up filter will only fit to same size lens.SIfus, is the raynox DCR250 better than the hoya+4+1+2=+7 |
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Oct 8 2010, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 8 2010, 10:58 AM) All u lich buggers! I only using K4N4SA1 brand filters. uncle ian » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 8 2010, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 8 2010, 01:21 PM) I am using 3.8.10. Update yours. Wow! Canon finally gives us the 1 feature that the whole world has been asking for so long. But now I oso dont care about DPP anymore coz I'm using Aperture which is a lot better. QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 8 2010, 03:08 PM) wanna ask smth~ does overexposure photo shown on ur dslr screen always come out better compare to those 'ngam ngam' exposure n underexposure photo when upload to pc~? Read the histogram lor. Anyway, camera mostly under 1.i found out all my ngam ngam n underexposure pic came out nt sharp when upload to pc~ |
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Oct 8 2010, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 8 2010, 04:01 PM) Wow! Canon finally gives us the 1 feature that the whole world has been asking for so long. But now I oso dont care about DPP anymore coz I'm using Aperture which is a lot better. yup~ learning to read it nw~ kinda hard~Read the histogram lor. Anyway, camera mostly under 1. |
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Oct 8 2010, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 8 2010, 03:42 PM) bro, please enlighten me 1st photo was just a normal shot - f5.6, 1/800s, ISO200 the 1st picture u taken with a tripod + long exposure? the last photo(a.k.a bird photo) u taken with what lens? so sharp and so bokehness! the bird photo was taken with EF24-70mm f2.8L @ f2.8 |
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Oct 8 2010, 04:41 PM
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Anyone bought 60D in JB? Just now during lunch hour I went and ask one of the FotoKem shop, they said next month 60D will only arrived. =____=
Now i put hope on Tebrau City, Mee Too shop... Please let me saw 60D in the shop |
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Oct 8 2010, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Oct 8 2010, 04:41 PM) Anyone bought 60D in JB? Just now during lunch hour I went and ask one of the FotoKem shop, they said next month 60D will only arrived. =____= hav u tried Johan at plaza angsana?Now i put hope on Tebrau City, Mee Too shop... Please let me saw 60D in the shop |
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Oct 8 2010, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(rayzaw @ Oct 8 2010, 05:19 PM) hav u tried Johan at plaza angsana? Not yet. Cause I live nearby Tebrau City ><. Still working at the moment, impossible to fly over there. ( Scared traffic jam haha ).So far now left Mee Too, Photo Berlian and Johan shop... But I saw Johan price list.... RM3.3k for 60D body only... Kinda like too much already |
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Oct 8 2010, 05:34 PM
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Those of u who live in JB, y bother to buy from JB? I wud just go over to Singapore n do my shopping there. As it is, I drive all the way from KL-Sg just for camera shopping. If I live in JB, I'll be in Sg every weekend.
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Oct 8 2010, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 8 2010, 05:34 PM) Those of u who live in JB, y bother to buy from JB? I wud just go over to Singapore n do my shopping there. As it is, I drive all the way from KL-Sg just for camera shopping. If I live in JB, I'll be in Sg every weekend. LOL if ur live JB u sure complain ur pocket always empty... |
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Oct 8 2010, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 8 2010, 05:34 PM) Those of u who live in JB, y bother to buy from JB? I wud just go over to Singapore n do my shopping there. As it is, I drive all the way from KL-Sg just for camera shopping. If I live in JB, I'll be in Sg every weekend. depends lah on the person convenience. got problem later need to go to spore since the warranty valid in spore oni if im not mistaken. but yet still i do shop around for lenses there... way more cheaper. |
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Oct 8 2010, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(rayzaw @ Oct 8 2010, 05:46 PM) depends lah on the person convenience. got problem later need to go to spore since the warranty valid in spore oni if im not mistaken. but yet still i do shop around for lenses there... way more cheaper. And you don't get the 3 years warranty in Singapore.Is the 1+2 years warranty still available in Malaysia? |
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Oct 8 2010, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Oct 8 2010, 05:54 PM) And you don't get the 3 years warranty in Singapore. I think it is still available that why i choose to get camera in Malaysia. Is the 1+2 years warranty still available in Malaysia? |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Hi bro(s), i didnt mean to against your opinion or spam the thread, but somehow as a newbie here, i dont find any problem to start with semi-pro canon as his/her first camera. I just feel some of the word use above a bit mean to me. I am going to buy my first DSLR soon, either 550D or 60D, after using my sony T10 for few years. I mean with my own story, when i found out my T10 cant produce the kind of photo i want, i decided to upgrade to DSLR, but it does take time for me to collect money to get a DSLR especially in my place, i can tell you even now, 550D in my place is 3200-3400 for 18-55 kit, that is same price with new 60D in KL. So when i finally collected enough money to buy my 550D (my place price i mean), i found out i can get 60D with same price in KL. So why cant i buy a 60D if i have the opportunity to go KL and get 60D as my first DSLR, i can learn using DSLR by using 60D too. Yes i am newbie, i have a lot to learn in DSLR but i think dont label us newbie like that loo... |
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Oct 8 2010, 07:14 PM
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need some help here...i'm learning how to read the histogram...so far only know tht if the bar is too left its underexpo n too right is overexpo...bt how do i know whether the image is enough sharp n is correct expo or nt?
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Oct 8 2010, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 8 2010, 07:14 PM) need some help here...i'm learning how to read the histogram...so far only know tht if the bar is too left its underexpo n too right is overexpo...bt how do i know whether the image is enough sharp n is correct expo or nt? Zoom in to check the sharpness, for correct expo, all of the bars should be in the middle |
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Oct 8 2010, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(khaiandrew @ Oct 8 2010, 07:23 PM) Zoom in to check the sharpness, for correct expo, all of the bars should be in the middle so as long as all the bars is in the middle mean its correct expo d~? |
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Oct 8 2010, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 8 2010, 07:29 PM) so as long as all the bars is in the middle mean its correct expo d~? but dun reli too much on it, sumtimes u nid to trust ur eyes |
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Oct 8 2010, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Oct 8 2010, 07:31 PM) but dun reli too much on it, sumtimes u nid to trust ur eyes i cant trust my eyes anymore....thts y i'm learning to read histogram...many photo look nice to me on the dslr screen...bt then after upload to pc its either too soft, underexpo or overexpo...n nw nt sure whether is my dslr screen or computer screen problem.. |
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Oct 8 2010, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Oct 8 2010, 07:07 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Hi bro(s), i didnt mean to against your opinion or spam the thread, but somehow as a newbie here, i dont find any problem to start with semi-pro canon as his/her first camera. I just feel some of the word use above a bit mean to me. I am going to buy my first DSLR soon, either 550D or 60D, after using my sony T10 for few years. I mean with my own story, when i found out my T10 cant produce the kind of photo i want, i decided to upgrade to DSLR, but it does take time for me to collect money to get a DSLR especially in my place, i can tell you even now, 550D in my place is 3200-3400 for 18-55 kit, that is same price with new 60D in KL. So when i finally collected enough money to buy my 550D (my place price i mean), i found out i can get 60D with same price in KL. So why cant i buy a 60D if i have the opportunity to go KL and get 60D as my first DSLR, i can learn using DSLR by using 60D too. Yes i am newbie, i have a lot to learn in DSLR but i think dont label us newbie like that loo... Take your time and about dslr is easy to play play... lol lots of tutorial and video can be watch the hard part of photography is always the "composing shots" but then again you already used 1 for a few years |
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Oct 8 2010, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ Oct 8 2010, 10:53 AM) For B+W, try getting their X-pro and KSM series sorry...me noob on b+w filter so need to ask... so the xs-pro is the highest end uv filter from b+w what's ksm??? |
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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Oct 8 2010, 07:07 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Hi bro(s), i didnt mean to against your opinion or spam the thread, but somehow as a newbie here, i dont find any problem to start with semi-pro canon as his/her first camera. I just feel some of the word use above a bit mean to me. I am going to buy my first DSLR soon, either 550D or 60D, after using my sony T10 for few years. I mean with my own story, when i found out my T10 cant produce the kind of photo i want, i decided to upgrade to DSLR, but it does take time for me to collect money to get a DSLR especially in my place, i can tell you even now, 550D in my place is 3200-3400 for 18-55 kit, that is same price with new 60D in KL. So when i finally collected enough money to buy my 550D (my place price i mean), i found out i can get 60D with same price in KL. So why cant i buy a 60D if i have the opportunity to go KL and get 60D as my first DSLR, i can learn using DSLR by using 60D too. Yes i am newbie, i have a lot to learn in DSLR but i think dont label us newbie like that loo... Sure that whatever DSLR that you buy will produce sharper/less noisy pictures than your T10 but a 550D or a 60D or a 7D all produce the 99% similiar picture assuming that the person behind the camera is the same and using the same lens in the same condition. My personal opinion is that getting a high end camera.... could in some situations... actually be detrimental as one will spend much more time learning how to use a dslr rather than how to take pictures. Hence the general recommendation to just get the best bang for buck model (you said it yourself that the money is hard to come by) and keep the difference in the bank until you get limited by your lens and knows what lens to get next to best suit your style. |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Newbie in term of DSLR ma, i have friends and colleugue also share share their knowlegde with me here, but they are all pro dy.... Unfortunately for me i will be in KL from 13 to 15 oct only, maybe next time to KL is next year lo. I cant imagine how is 60D price here... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I agreed with that, that why my choices is still between 550D and 60D, hard earn money ma... I knew 550D is already enough for me, but with 60D out there, i just wondering whether to go to 60D and stay there, i dont plans to go pro anyway. If i buy 550D then i have excuse to upgrade later on. This post has been edited by Zelmel: Oct 8 2010, 08:38 PM |
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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Oct 8 2010, 07:07 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Hi bro(s), i didnt mean to against your opinion or spam the thread, but somehow as a newbie here, i dont find any problem to start with semi-pro canon as his/her first camera. I just feel some of the word use above a bit mean to me. I am going to buy my first DSLR soon, either 550D or 60D, after using my sony T10 for few years. I mean with my own story, when i found out my T10 cant produce the kind of photo i want, i decided to upgrade to DSLR, but it does take time for me to collect money to get a DSLR especially in my place, i can tell you even now, 550D in my place is 3200-3400 for 18-55 kit, that is same price with new 60D in KL. So when i finally collected enough money to buy my 550D (my place price i mean), i found out i can get 60D with same price in KL. So why cant i buy a 60D if i have the opportunity to go KL and get 60D as my first DSLR, i can learn using DSLR by using 60D too. Yes i am newbie, i have a lot to learn in DSLR but i think dont label us newbie like that loo... canon say the 60d is a prosumer camera...for semi-pro that's the 7d minimum...watch here Sos: Tim Smith Canon USA : http://vimeo.com/15549122 youtube: I do want to advise you if you don't need the articulating screen of the 60d then go for the 7d...in the long run its better imho...heck if you have money just go for 1d4 even better...hope to see your new advanced camera soon!!! This post has been edited by kaigraphy: Oct 8 2010, 09:10 PM |
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Don't care what other people say la. As long as ur buying what makes u happy. Y u care so much what other people say?
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Oct 8 2010, 08:23 PM
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^agree wif uncle ian
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Oct 8 2010, 08:24 PM
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hey guys how do u remove spec of dust from the viewfinder ? my 550D has been with me almost a month ... and now i find 2 spec of dust on the top of my viewfinder its really annoying T__T as i tried using blower to get it off but its soooo stubborn
any method? |
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Oct 8 2010, 08:33 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Somehow 7D is out of budget lo... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Nola, just my opinion nia... No offence This post has been edited by Zelmel: Oct 8 2010, 08:38 PM |
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QUOTE(LilRazor @ Oct 8 2010, 08:24 PM) hey guys how do u remove spec of dust from the viewfinder ? my 550D has been with me almost a month ... and now i find 2 spec of dust on the top of my viewfinder its really annoying T__T as i tried using blower to get it off but its soooo stubborn use cottonbudany method? d dust on d viewfinder rite?d dust on it normally quite stubborn use cottonbud+blower shud solve ur issue |
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Oct 8 2010, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 8 2010, 08:08 PM) Don't care what other people say la. As long as ur buying what makes u happy. Y u care so much what other people say? Well, I have to agree with you. Buy what you like and what makes you happy. You can only learn about the camera like what is the best and what it is capable of doing. In the end, you are the one who is using the camera.I was using a 1000D for 1 year+. I bought my 40D last May. 2 months later, I got a 7D. I had the chance to go FF aka 5D mark II and people even push me to get it. But I told myself, I want the king of crops because I simply need to boost more range + speed. I am satisfied with my purchase and the 7D is now my primary workhorse. |
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Oct 8 2010, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(RobustRobot @ Oct 8 2010, 12:41 PM) guys guys, any promotion around kl for tripod? hopefully under rm100 any ideas?looking for it asap! ;( |
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Oct 8 2010, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 8 2010, 08:40 PM) use cottonbud are u sure? wouldn't it leave traces of other stuff i don't want it there?d dust on d viewfinder rite?d dust on it normally quite stubborn use cottonbud+blower shud solve ur issue |
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Oct 8 2010, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(LilRazor @ Oct 8 2010, 08:47 PM) are u sure? wouldn't it leave traces of other stuff i don't want it there? u can try it for urselfmayb other ppl here hv better suggestions but wad i do is using cottonbud to wipe d viewfinder... |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:08 PM
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>.< it went worst .. now i got smears all over it
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Oct 8 2010, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 8 2010, 08:08 PM) Don't care what other people say la. As long as ur buying what makes u happy. Y u care so much what other people say? Couldn't agree more. Buy whAt you can afford and enjoy to the max. |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 8 2010, 08:57 PM) u can try it for urself seriously got very bad ... i looks like scratches marks on it ... PLEASE HELP ME...mayb other ppl here hv better suggestions but wad i do is using cottonbud to wipe d viewfinder... |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(RobustRobot @ Oct 8 2010, 08:44 PM) any ideas? aiyo everyone ignore u ka. for less than rm100 there r so many cheapo tripod out there. i think rm 50-80 got d. brand notimportant but all a bit flimsy. dont expect quality one la. any shop shud have those. depending on what body u want to mount on it it may or may not be stable enough imo |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(LilRazor @ Oct 8 2010, 09:18 PM) seriously got very bad ... i looks like scratches marks on it ... PLEASE HELP ME... huh?got tat serious? viewfinder only wor... try to use clean cottonbuds... any guys can suggest him a better way to clean his viewfinder? |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 8 2010, 09:27 PM) huh? viewfinder only, who cares got tat serious? viewfinder only wor... try to use clean cottonbuds... any guys can suggest him a better way to clean his viewfinder? as long as u can see and the photos look great ! |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 8 2010, 09:27 PM) huh? ...... i think gone case .... the viewfinder/focus screen thingy inside the cameragot tat serious? viewfinder only wor... try to use clean cottonbuds... any guys can suggest him a better way to clean his viewfinder? how much estimate to change the focus screen? totally messed up T___T i wanna cry wheres the nearest canon service center ? im at Petaling Jaya QUOTE(Vincent Pang @ Oct 8 2010, 09:30 PM) viewfinder only, who cares its a new camera ... i just got this T_T also my 1st DLSR .... dont want it to get messed up like this as long as u can see and the photos look great !This post has been edited by LilRazor: Oct 8 2010, 09:36 PM |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(LilRazor @ Oct 8 2010, 09:30 PM) ...... i think gone case .... the viewfinder/focus screen thingy inside the camera trust me, the more u touch, the more mess u will create. Just leave it and enjoy shooting how much estimate to change the focus screen? totally messed up T___T i wanna cry wheres the nearest canon service center ? im at Petaling Jaya its a new camera ... i just got this T_T also my 1st DLSR .... dont want it to get messed up like this |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(LilRazor @ Oct 8 2010, 09:30 PM) ...... i think gone case .... the viewfinder/focus screen thingy inside the camera are u sure u mean viewfinder?how much estimate to change the focus screen? totally messed up T___T i wanna cry wheres the nearest canon service center ? im at Petaling Jaya its a new camera ... i just got this T_T also my 1st DLSR .... dont want it to get messed up like this  plz dun use d wrong term... viewfinder is d piece that our eyes look through... did u mean tat? This post has been edited by ckdenion: Oct 8 2010, 09:50 PM |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:50 PM
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How can the viewfinder prism get scratched so easily? I once used to touch it so much from outside and inside the camera also no scratches (but focussing screen was badly scratched).
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Oct 8 2010, 09:52 PM
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@mengsuan:he said "the viewfinder/focus screen thingy inside the camera"
viewfinder inside d camera? |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:53 PM
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Oh, then I think it is the focussing screen right above the flipping mirror? That one can get scratched by any thing. Even microfiber cloth is too rough for it.
I got mine replaced in Canon for RM15 only. |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 8 2010, 09:52 PM) Oh, then I think it is the focussing screen right above the flipping mirror? That one can get scratched by any thing. Even microfiber cloth is too rough for it. I got mine replaced in Canon for RM15 only. how long did it take ? thinking to dropping by tomorrow with some servicing too xD QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 8 2010, 09:52 PM) @mengsuan:he said "the viewfinder/focus screen thingy inside the camera" the one inside the camera ... maybe i used the wrong word >.<viewfinder inside d camera? This post has been edited by LilRazor: Oct 8 2010, 09:57 PM |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(LilRazor @ Oct 8 2010, 09:18 PM) seriously got very bad ... i looks like scratches marks on it ... PLEASE HELP ME... use lenspen. or china lenspen also can. |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(LilRazor @ Oct 8 2010, 09:55 PM) how long did it take ? thinking to dropping by tomorrow with some servicing too xD make sure u knw wad a viewfinder really is...the one inside the camera ... maybe i used the wrong word >.< if not...later we mislead u...or we misunderstood u |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:58 PM
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LOL the noob strikes back...
Found a shop named Photo VW, they sell 550D 18 - 135mm @ RM 3500 with 8GB SD Tripod and Bag... can this shop be trusted? i mean it's relatively cheap compared to other shops and they say: price can be further discussed. i scared there's something fishy about this shop... and another thing... which brand of filter do you guys recommend? i don't mean UV ones tho. and where to get them cheap? going to buy camera this sunday... excited weh |
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Oct 8 2010, 09:58 PM
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Hello everyone.
I am in a dilemma, and I need some opinions. I am debating between a 500D and 550D, but not sure which one to get. I'm going to use the camera for semi-casual macro shots. Food, flower, jewelry, smallest objects maybe around 8mm. Not so hardcore to go shoot small insects like ants. I know about the extension method with 50mm f1.8 lens. But I just don't know which camera is better, 500D or 550D. I am kind of on a budget as well, which is what making me think twice about the 550D. I'm just wondering if 550D is really needed/necessary for semi-casual macro shooting. |
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Oct 8 2010, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 8 2010, 09:57 PM) make sure u knw wad a viewfinder really is... sorry my bad not ur fault if not...later we mislead u...or we misunderstood u still kinda noob on the insides of the camera ... |
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Oct 8 2010, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(kyoupiruchi @ Oct 8 2010, 09:58 PM) Hello everyone. Not really... even 1000d is enough if u know how to use it....if budget didnt allow u to go for 550d thn take 500d lor....I am in a dilemma, and I need some opinions. I am debating between a 500D and 550D, but not sure which one to get. I'm going to use the camera for semi-casual macro shots. Food, flower, jewelry, smallest objects maybe around 8mm. Not so hardcore to go shoot small insects like ants. I know about the extension method with 50mm f1.8 lens. But I just don't know which camera is better, 500D or 550D. I am kind of on a budget as well, which is what making me think twice about the 550D. I'm just wondering if 550D is really needed/necessary for semi-casual macro shooting. |
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Oct 8 2010, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(LilRazor @ Oct 8 2010, 09:55 PM) how long did it take ? thinking to dropping by tomorrow with some servicing too xD Took 1 day (next day) for me. That time I have CPS.the one inside the camera ... maybe i used the wrong word >.< Added on October 8, 2010, 10:04 pm QUOTE(kyoupiruchi @ Oct 8 2010, 09:58 PM) Hello everyone. If your budget can spare for 550D, go for it. Otherwise buy 500D and better lens and also lighting set up. In macro photography, it is your set up and skills bring more important than minor difference in camera capability.I am in a dilemma, and I need some opinions. I am debating between a 500D and 550D, but not sure which one to get. I'm going to use the camera for semi-casual macro shots. Food, flower, jewelry, smallest objects maybe around 8mm. Not so hardcore to go shoot small insects like ants. I know about the extension method with 50mm f1.8 lens. But I just don't know which camera is better, 500D or 550D. I am kind of on a budget as well, which is what making me think twice about the 550D. I'm just wondering if 550D is really needed/necessary for semi-casual macro shooting. This post has been edited by mengsuan: Oct 8 2010, 10:04 PM |
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Oct 8 2010, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 8 2010, 10:02 PM) Took 1 day (next day) for me. That time I have CPS. Would you say this is good? Macro shot of earrings with point and shoot.Added on October 8, 2010, 10:04 pm If your budget can spare for 550D, go for it. Otherwise buy 500D and better lens and also lighting set up. In macro photography, it is your set up and skills bring more important than minor difference in camera capability. I'm getting a DSLR because my point and shoot's battery cover broke, and now held close with cello tape. And it sometimes 'hang' also and will need to take out battery to reset. Quite annoying to open and tape back cello tape. Fix will be over RM200... might as well invest in DSLR. So shooting-quality wise they are both almost the same la? But I heard that 550D do better in low lighting right? How low can a 500D go until it fail to capture things clearly? |
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Oct 8 2010, 10:25 PM
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It doesn't fail just that... if you're picky theres noise ... oh yeah... anyone here have been sending to canon for sensor cleaning? it seems that my curious little niece accidently touch the inside of the camera while changing lense and smile at me...somehow it is the revenge of not giving her attention
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Oct 8 2010, 10:34 PM
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When someone touches the inside of camera while changing lens, the sensor is still being protected. What is exposed is just the mirror which does not affect anything.
Added on October 8, 2010, 10:40 pm QUOTE(kyoupiruchi @ Oct 8 2010, 10:17 PM) Would you say this is good? Macro shot of earrings with point and shoot. The photo is decent but isn't impressive. While many compacts offer super-macro kind of feature, DSLR usually require macro lens do shoot closely with high magnification. You will need to allocate some budget on macro lens or at least, close up filters or some sort of things.I'm getting a DSLR because my point and shoot's battery cover broke, and now held close with cello tape. And it sometimes 'hang' also and will need to take out battery to reset. Quite annoying to open and tape back cello tape. Fix will be over RM200... might as well invest in DSLR. So shooting-quality wise they are both almost the same la? But I heard that 550D do better in low lighting right? How low can a 500D go until it fail to capture things clearly? I assume your macro photography are done in controlled environment. Why do you need a camera with better low-light performance? You will probably be having lights illuminating your subject very well. But since you're considering deeply into 550D, I believe you do have the budget to spare. Get the 550D and you might find it useful for other usage as well. This post has been edited by mengsuan: Oct 8 2010, 10:40 PM |
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Oct 8 2010, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Oct 8 2010, 07:07 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Hi bro(s), i didnt mean to against your opinion or spam the thread, but somehow as a newbie here, i dont find any problem to start with semi-pro canon as his/her first camera. I just feel some of the word use above a bit mean to me. I am going to buy my first DSLR soon, either 550D or 60D, after using my sony T10 for few years. I mean with my own story, when i found out my T10 cant produce the kind of photo i want, i decided to upgrade to DSLR, but it does take time for me to collect money to get a DSLR especially in my place, i can tell you even now, 550D in my place is 3200-3400 for 18-55 kit, that is same price with new 60D in KL. So when i finally collected enough money to buy my 550D (my place price i mean), i found out i can get 60D with same price in KL. So why cant i buy a 60D if i have the opportunity to go KL and get 60D as my first DSLR, i can learn using DSLR by using 60D too. Yes i am newbie, i have a lot to learn in DSLR but i think dont label us newbie like that loo... just my 2 cent, no offense bro |
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Oct 8 2010, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 8 2010, 10:34 PM) When someone touches the inside of camera while changing lens, the sensor is still being protected. What is exposed is just the mirror which does not affect anything. Ahaha thanks, I'm not a hardcore photographer la Added on October 8, 2010, 10:40 pm The photo is decent but isn't impressive. While many compacts offer super-macro kind of feature, DSLR usually require macro lens do shoot closely with high magnification. You will need to allocate some budget on macro lens or at least, close up filters or some sort of things. I assume your macro photography are done in controlled environment. Why do you need a camera with better low-light performance? You will probably be having lights illuminating your subject very well. But since you're considering deeply into 550D, I believe you do have the budget to spare. Get the 550D and you might find it useful for other usage as well. It's not really a controlled environment, I rely on natural lighting and sometimes when it rains it can get a bit difficult. |
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Oct 8 2010, 10:56 PM
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 PeaceI still need learn a lot from you all too Today reading about long exposure can remove crowd from a crowded place Setting high aperture and long shutter speed, sound fun... This post has been edited by Zelmel: Oct 8 2010, 10:59 PM |
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Oct 8 2010, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Oct 8 2010, 10:56 PM) PeaceI still need learn a lot from you all too Today reading about long exposure can remove crowd from a crowded place Setting high aperture and long shutter speed, sound fun... got sample picture? |
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Oct 8 2010, 11:13 PM
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^yeah...me too...
sounds interesting... isit sth like d crowd will look blur due to long exposure? |
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Oct 8 2010, 11:35 PM
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The crowd will almost completely dissapear. Try setting up ur cam on a tripod, 30 sec exposure. Then, take the pic and walk briskly infront of your cam. Same concept
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Oct 8 2010, 11:35 PM
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I read from Digital Photo Magazine July 2010 edition, i bought from Pasar Malam. It teach this kind of technique.
1. Set high aperture, like f/22 2. Set ISO 100 or 200 3. Need 5 seconds or more 4. Manual focus and ND filter Oh ya this is for daytime shotting. I never try it so no picture. Maybe wait til i got my DSLR |
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Oct 8 2010, 11:37 PM
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still learning to read histogram...so far so good...here some shot i tested with 50mm f/1.8 and only use histogram to determine the exposure whether correct or nt...need sifu opinion on these pic...r they sharp enough n r the exposure ok~? ty~ all of them r non-edited~
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Oct 8 2010, 11:49 PM
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Nothing wrong with exposure.
But composition wise I see nothing interesting at all. |
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Oct 8 2010, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(xLegato @ Oct 8 2010, 11:49 PM) Nothing wrong with exposure. composition~? how to improve tht~?But composition wise I see nothing interesting at all. p/s nt really know wat composition means... ok...after reading bout composition...i think i get wat it mean d...basically i just place the object on my table n din really thought bout hw interesting it will turn out 2 b...i just wanna try exposure n sharpness... This post has been edited by chinti: Oct 8 2010, 11:58 PM |
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Oct 8 2010, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 8 2010, 11:51 PM) composition~? how to improve tht~? google up "rule of third"p/s nt really know wat composition means... ok...after reading bout composition...i think i get wat it mean d...basically i just place the object on my table n din really thought bout hw interesting it will turn out 2 b...i just wanna try exposure n sharpness... |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 8 2010, 11:59 PM) google up "rule of third" ya i read bout it d^^will try again tmr... |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(crocs @ Oct 8 2010, 09:24 PM) aiyo everyone ignore u ka. for less than rm100 there r so many cheapo tripod out there. i think rm 50-80 got d. brand notimportant but all a bit flimsy. dont expect quality one la. any shop shud have those. depending on what body u want to mount on it it may or may not be stable enough imo finally 1 kind soul here, i had been looking around shop that might have sales for t ripod, last time The Mall near PWTC got sales but no money that time ;( |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:05 AM
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Thinking to upgrade to either 50D or 60D.
Both price are about same. Give some ideas pls sifu here. |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Oct 9 2010, 12:05 AM) Thinking to upgrade to either 50D or 60D. wat model r u updating from?Both price are about same. Give some ideas pls sifu here. |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Oct 9 2010, 12:05 AM) Thinking to upgrade to either 50D or 60D. If you need video then go for it. the articulate screen is another add on... If not better stick with the 50D. I think 50D is a little bit safer for 3rd party lens as it got micro-adjustmentBoth price are about same. Give some ideas pls sifu here. |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 9 2010, 12:06 AM) wat model r u updating from? from 500d to either 50D or 60D.My requirement, good picture quality. Seldom take movie. This post has been edited by chinkw1: Oct 9 2010, 12:11 AM |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Oct 9 2010, 12:10 AM) from 500d straight away get 7D...its a great camera...the price is 1k+ higher compare to 60d or 50d... |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Oct 9 2010, 12:05 AM) Thinking to upgrade to either 50D or 60D. something ianho tell us last version, he say don't upgrade from a small small kicimiao sensor to another small small kicimiao sensor, wan upgrade, straight go 5D or 1Ds Both price are about same. Give some ideas pls sifu here. |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 9 2010, 12:21 AM) something ianho tell us last version, he say don't upgrade from a small small kicimiao sensor to another small small kicimiao sensor, wan upgrade, straight go 5D or 1Ds upgrade tht n maggie mee for dunno hw many months d... |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:35 AM
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550d vs d3100...canon ftw...
but on the 60d vs d7000...I think d7000 win but no way the d7k can touch the 7d |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:35 AM
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Why don't you consider to buy/upgrade lens? since 500D is a capable camera already...
Added on October 9, 2010, 12:37 am QUOTE(kaigraphy @ Oct 9 2010, 12:35 AM) 550d vs d3100...canon ftw... I dont tink d7000 win lor... although it does have 39-AF point... the 7D has 19 ALL CROSS AF point.. ALL CROSS is more sensitive than normal one... but on the 60d vs d7000...I think d7000 win but no way the d7k can touch the 7d This post has been edited by ukiya21: Oct 9 2010, 12:37 AM |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:41 AM
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It's like upgrading from a Kelisa to a Myvi.chinkw, you should try getting better lenses....are you still using the 1855 kitlens?
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Oct 9 2010, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 9 2010, 12:21 AM) something ianho tell us last version, he say don't upgrade from a small small kicimiao sensor to another small small kicimiao sensor, wan upgrade, straight go 5D or 1Ds true true but what Canon 60D have and all the other models do not have is the articulating screen. So if u need it then 60D is an ideal but of course its better go for 5D or 1D if u can afford it |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(ukiya21 @ Oct 9 2010, 12:35 AM) Why don't you consider to buy/upgrade lens? since 500D is a capable camera already... All oso lauya. All 45x f2.8 crosspoints baru syiok. Added on October 9, 2010, 12:37 am I dont tink d7000 win lor... although it does have 39-AF point... the 7D has 19 ALL CROSS AF point.. ALL CROSS is more sensitive than normal one... |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:52 AM
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what the the best filter for my lens.
Please teach me. I am using 550d. |
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Oct 9 2010, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE(ukiya21 @ Oct 9 2010, 12:35 AM) Why don't you consider to buy/upgrade lens? since 500D is a capable camera already... errr...I say d7k against 60d = d7k wins but 7d is a class above the d7k and I know the 7d wins as stated in my previous post...Added on October 9, 2010, 12:37 am I dont tink d7000 win lor... although it does have 39-AF point... the 7D has 19 ALL CROSS AF point.. ALL CROSS is more sensitive than normal one... Added on October 9, 2010, 12:56 am QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 9 2010, 12:50 AM) All oso lauya. All 45x f2.8 crosspoints baru syiok. lol wut camera have that all 45 f2.8 cross point...5d2 lol...the 1d4 no...1dsm3 maybe...This post has been edited by kaigraphy: Oct 9 2010, 12:58 AM |
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Oct 9 2010, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(kaigraphy @ Oct 9 2010, 12:55 AM) errr...I say d7k against 60d = d7k wins but 7d is a class above the d7k and I know the 7d wins as stated in my previous post... 5D2 only has 1 cross type AF point Added on October 9, 2010, 12:56 am lol wut camera have that all 45 f2.8 cross point...5d2 lol...the 1d4 no...1dsm3 maybe... |
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Oct 9 2010, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(mauinsons @ Oct 9 2010, 01:04 AM) 5D2 only has 1 cross type AF point How I wish it has the 7D's 19pt all cross type point |
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Oct 9 2010, 01:30 AM
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that's why the are leaving the 3D out now...
should be FF with much better AF system and then charge a premium for it |
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Oct 9 2010, 07:18 AM
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Some golf shots i did this morning.. C&C welcomed =) wanna learn sports.. it's fun man! warning if u don like sports or golf, pls don open..  all the images are fresh OOC. shot at 100-200 ISO, shutter 1/320 and above. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Oct 9 2010, 07:25 AM
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just continuation of the previous post.. hope you guys like it =) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Oct 9 2010, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 9 2010, 12:41 AM) It's like upgrading from a Kelisa to a Myvi.chinkw, you should try getting better lenses....are you still using the 1855 kitlens? no, it is just like Myvi upgrade to Myvi SE. |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(ukiya21 @ Oct 9 2010, 12:35 AM) Why don't you consider to buy/upgrade lens? since 500D is a capable camera already... ukiya, u r right also. I m currently using 24-105 f4L on my 500D. I better of using the $ to buy 50mm f1.4 (take portrait) and 10-22mm (take lanscape).Added on October 9, 2010, 12:37 am I dont tink d7000 win lor... although it does have 39-AF point... the 7D has 19 ALL CROSS AF point.. ALL CROSS is more sensitive than normal one... Added on October 9, 2010, 9:05 am QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 9 2010, 12:41 AM) It's like upgrading from a Kelisa to a Myvi.chinkw, you should try getting better lenses....are you still using the 1855 kitlens? Currently using 24-105 on my 500D.This post has been edited by chinkw1: Oct 9 2010, 09:05 AM |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:15 AM
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Pretty nice shots actually, Michaelbyz23.
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Oct 9 2010, 10:24 AM
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friends
i lost my 135L lens hood where can i find a new one? called Jason J One but they got no stock |
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Oct 9 2010, 10:35 AM
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@chinkw:u gt nice lens on ur 500d unlike me. =(
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Oct 9 2010, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(ahyie @ Oct 9 2010, 10:24 AM) friends Go to Digicolor. They got the cheap cheap 3rd party hood exactly same as Canon 1.i lost my 135L lens hood where can i find a new one? called Jason J One but they got no stock |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 9 2010, 11:01 AM) Go to Digicolor. They got the cheap cheap 3rd party hood exactly same as Canon 1. thanks uncle ian |
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Oct 9 2010, 03:04 PM
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just come back from mass shopping exercise practicing...
walao, just now one of my friend he have his eye on the tamron sp90mm macro, then his sifu come in(NOT BLOOD RELATIVE) have a chit chat about how sharp is the 90mm, then in less than 5 min, his sifu say, nvm, i buy 1 for you, then he ask the tauke to pack in up, SERIOUSLY he give him . i wish i could be like that... so admire, buying lens like buying at pasar. |
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Oct 9 2010, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 9 2010, 03:04 PM) just come back from mass shopping exercise practicing... You better get yourself a sifu......FAST walao, just now one of my friend he have his eye on the tamron sp90mm macro, then his sifu come in(NOT BLOOD RELATIVE) have a chit chat about how sharp is the 90mm, then in less than 5 min, his sifu say, nvm, i buy 1 for you, then he ask the tauke to pack in up, SERIOUSLY he give him . i wish i could be like that... so admire, buying lens like buying at pasar. |
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Oct 9 2010, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 9 2010, 03:11 PM) You better get yourself a sifu......FAST that "sifu" go back just to take his box of the D3s... then he spend 1.6k more on a lens for his tou daii.. the purchase just in less than 5 min(include the time he go to ATM), 5min man.. 1.6k loss in 5 min... unbelievable. now i can't even spell thing right |
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Oct 9 2010, 03:31 PM
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Lol, ianho buy lens like buying fish in market. I believe he won't even buy Tamron 90mm. Buahaha
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Oct 9 2010, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 9 2010, 03:31 PM) Lol, ianho buy lens like buying fish in market. I believe he won't even buy Tamron 90mm. Buahaha ianho, can u be my sifu then give me the tamron as a gift... LOL!! HAHA!This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Oct 9 2010, 03:43 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 9 2010, 03:34 PM) ianho, can u be my sifu then give me the tamron as a gift... AlexLee, i can be your protege, then i will inherit the tamron after you... LOL!! HAHA! |
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Oct 9 2010, 04:39 PM
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these things bump into my life today
 *taken with el-cheapo ef-s 55-250  *taken with el-cheapo tammy 1750 the vignette is effect from lightroom Added on October 9, 2010, 4:41 pm QUOTE(ahyie @ Oct 9 2010, 04:36 PM) AlexLee, i can be your protege, then i will inherit the tamron after you... then i'll inherit your faidee... This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Oct 9 2010, 04:42 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 9 2010, 03:34 PM) ianho, can u be my sifu then give me the tamron as a gift... speaking of sifu...i really need a sifu to teach me more on photography...anyone willing to b my sifu~? i'm in penang~ LOL!! HAHA! |
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Oct 9 2010, 05:15 PM
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i also wan sifu.....
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Oct 9 2010, 05:42 PM
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Learn by hard and you do not need a sifu.
Earn your own money and you do not need a sifu. |
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Oct 9 2010, 06:14 PM
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Argh... my cheapo Tumax 386 Flash just GGed today when my friend drop it from a monopod.
Should had gone for flashes with better build quality. Will COD a Nissin as replacement... zzz.... overspend my monthly budget d. |
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Oct 9 2010, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Oct 9 2010, 06:14 PM) Argh... my cheapo Tumax 386 Flash just GGed today when my friend drop it from a monopod. i don't think the 580EXII can withstand such a fall as well. Should had gone for flashes with better build quality. Will COD a Nissin as replacement... zzz.... overspend my monthly budget d. more so if its concrete floor. anybody wanna prove me wrong? |
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Oct 9 2010, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 9 2010, 06:27 PM) i don't think the 580EXII can withstand such a fall as well. get one n try it n let us know the result... more so if its concrete floor. anybody wanna prove me wrong? |
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Oct 9 2010, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Oct 9 2010, 06:14 PM) Argh... my cheapo Tumax 386 Flash just GGed today when my friend drop it from a monopod. i would like to ask how the heck it got on a monopod to begin with... and like zstan said... any flash can spoil after having that kind of accident Should had gone for flashes with better build quality. Will COD a Nissin as replacement... zzz.... overspend my monthly budget d. |
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Oct 9 2010, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 9 2010, 05:42 PM) Learn by hard and you do not need a sifu. fruitie~ i wan u 2 b my sifu(does girl also call sifu~?)~ i really admire ur photo~Earn your own money and you do not need a sifu. |
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Oct 9 2010, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 9 2010, 06:31 PM) get one n try it n let us know the result... Dropped my 580 on a concrete floor twice and no problems. maybe I am just lucky. |
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Oct 9 2010, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(azrinarizz @ Oct 9 2010, 06:32 PM) Dropped my 580 on a concrete floor twice and no problems. one time can consider lucky...bt twice~? maybe I am just lucky. dun think tht is call lucky... |
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Oct 9 2010, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(azrinarizz @ Oct 9 2010, 06:32 PM) Dropped my 580 on a concrete floor twice and no problems. Not really, that depends on whats the height you dropped your 580ex2, last few months i shot a pre wedding and my 580ex2 fall hard on a rock, resulting into cracks all around, cannot even fire anymore. maybe I am just lucky. |
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Oct 9 2010, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Oct 9 2010, 06:31 PM) i would like to ask how the heck it got on a monopod to begin with... and like zstan said... any flash can spoil after having that kind of accident I guess he was using my flash as a slave Flash. Erm... depends on height of it when dropped too. |
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Oct 9 2010, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 9 2010, 06:27 PM) i don't think the 580EXII can withstand such a fall as well. my 430EX II dropped 6ft to the ground, marble floor and it's not even destroyed. more so if its concrete floor. anybody wanna prove me wrong? only the diffuser chipped and some how doesn't trigger on body, it triggers using the phottix trigger though. send to Hospital Peremba and it's all settled, back to perfect working condition. Added on October 9, 2010, 6:48 pm*btw it depends on the height, and i think should consider the point of impact too. |
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Oct 9 2010, 06:58 PM
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My 430EX fell to the ground from about 2m high - mounted to a flash stand and it still worked after that..
The umbrella probably absorbed some of the impact though ^^; |
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Oct 9 2010, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 9 2010, 03:34 PM) ianho, can u be my sifu then give me the tamron as a gift... I'm a lauya photographer la. I can only teach u all about spending money. LOL!! HAHA!QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 9 2010, 06:27 PM) i don't think the 580EXII can withstand such a fall as well. U'll b surprised. The 580EX2 is built like a tank n it's weather proof too. more so if its concrete floor. anybody wanna prove me wrong? |
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Oct 9 2010, 07:04 PM
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yeap yeap, its solid and great flash power output.
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Oct 9 2010, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 9 2010, 04:39 PM) these things bump into my life today how muc u got it? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « the vignette is effect from lightroom Added on October 9, 2010, 4:41 pm then i'll inherit your faidee... i will get it by nex month still gathering funds |
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Oct 9 2010, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(chinti @ Oct 9 2010, 06:32 PM) fruitie~ i wan u 2 b my sifu(does girl also call sifu~?)~ i really admire ur photo~ You must be joking dude, you admire my photos? Normal shots nia la. I have so much to learn from the people here. Snap and post them here, seek for advice and guidance, you will learn faster. |
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Oct 9 2010, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 9 2010, 07:01 PM) I'm a lauya photographer la. I can only teach u all about spending money. haha.. nice excuse U'll b surprised. The 580EX2 is built like a tank n it's weather proof too. QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 9 2010, 07:06 PM) how muc u got it? RM1810 with el-cheapo kenko uv filter.i will get it by nex month still gathering funds |
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Oct 9 2010, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 9 2010, 07:06 PM) Snap and post them here, seek for advice and guidance, you will learn faster. ehh, fastest way to learn is keep track of https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1295195 and join what interests you, while posting at https://forum.lowyat.net/PhotoGallery to get better feedback. |
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Oct 9 2010, 07:15 PM
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I'll be lucky if I have the time to snap pics >.< assignment and exam season
I hope i can make it the trip to Perak but don't know also which place nice to snap picturesThis post has been edited by ComradeZ: Oct 9 2010, 07:17 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Oct 9 2010, 07:15 PM) I'll be lucky if I have the time to snap pics >.< assignment and exam season idea for you : find was to take photo of your assignment / exam study materials. sure you need a break from your studies. experiment during your breaks. that's improving your photography while studying. productive, no? Added on October 9, 2010, 7:18 pm QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Oct 9 2010, 07:15 PM) I hope i can make it the trip to Perak but don't know also which place nice to snap pictureswhich part of Perak? plenty of places to snap in Taiping to shoot. |
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Oct 9 2010, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 9 2010, 06:27 PM) i don't think the 580EXII can withstand such a fall as well. Dropped my 430EX while on a lightstand before and it still works till today more so if its concrete floor. anybody wanna prove me wrong? |
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Oct 9 2010, 07:25 PM
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wah 430EX / 430EX II happens to be a great candidate for drop test huh?
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Oct 9 2010, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 9 2010, 07:17 PM) idea for you : find was to take photo of your assignment / exam study materials. lol usually I play games before.. kinda hardcore gamer if you would say so... now got camera maybe ill make the most of it... sure you need a break from your studies. experiment during your breaks. that's improving your photography while studying. productive, no? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « i went to ipoh last time... but dont know where im heading in perak because my brother ask me to join him. |
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Oct 9 2010, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(pengster @ Oct 9 2010, 07:23 PM) Dropped my 430EX while on a lightstand before and it still works till today And I fell in love with your 430ex dat day Me wanna get a 430exII soon..... but Samyang 14mm comes 1st probably nex month |
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Oct 9 2010, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Oct 9 2010, 07:30 PM) lol usually I play games before.. kinda hardcore gamer if you would say so... now got camera maybe ill make the most of it... Gaming+ Photography is really hard. i went to ipoh last time... but dont know where im heading in perak because my brother ask me to join him. |
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Oct 9 2010, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(khaiandrew @ Oct 9 2010, 08:19 PM) Gaming+ Photography is really hard. haha been playing hardcore non stop for almost 5 years... I guess, I'll give it a break hahaha plus now got this computer is easy for me to do some vid editing once awhile |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:11 PM
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^lol...im on d gaming side but not tat hardcore...
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Oct 9 2010, 09:13 PM
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AlexLee277, I don't like the vignetting. Too strong.
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Oct 9 2010, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 9 2010, 09:13 PM) AlexLee277, I don't like the vignetting. Too strong. the background is TOO ugly This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Oct 9 2010, 09:18 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Oct 9 2010, 09:13 PM) AlexLee277, I don't like the vignetting. Too strong. N that's not even SLR style vignetting. That kinda vignetting is from daguerreotype cameras. |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(khaiandrew @ Oct 9 2010, 08:19 PM) Gaming+ Photography is really hard. where got hard?  i don't put my gaming stats on signature only. i still play COD:MW2, and going to find time to play BF:BC2. QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Oct 9 2010, 08:32 PM) haha been playing hardcore non stop for almost 5 years... I guess, I'll give it a break hahaha plus now got this computer is easy for me to do some vid editing once awhile playing hardcore non-stop? oh i'm doing that for about 20 years now. ok la stop here and there but generally still playing games. no big deal. |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:18 PM) the background is TOO ugly i thought u said that d vignett is caused by lighting? |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 9 2010, 09:21 PM) N that's not even SLR style vignetting. That kinda vignetting is from daguerreotype cameras. QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 9 2010, 09:25 PM) i thought u said that d vignett is caused by lighting? that is not camera vignetting la, that is LightRoom3 Vignetting i don't have mini studio like u all la, just shoot tepi toilet only. so make strong strong vignetting to hide the toilet ugliness Added on October 9, 2010, 9:38 pm QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 9 2010, 09:24 PM) where got hard? i wasted my bf bc2. i don't put my gaming stats on signature only. i still play COD:MW2, and going to find time to play BF:BC2. playing hardcore non-stop? oh i'm doing that for about 20 years now. ok la stop here and there but generally still playing games. no big deal. now duno why, can't update Rm125 *can pm me how solve? i tried google, but no answer,* trying my luck here This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Oct 9 2010, 09:38 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 9 2010, 09:24 PM) where got hard? 20 years only ah? I've been gaming for 30 over years. i don't put my gaming stats on signature only. i still play COD:MW2, and going to find time to play BF:BC2. playing hardcore non-stop? oh i'm doing that for about 20 years now. ok la stop here and there but generally still playing games. no big deal. |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:41 PM
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Guys i need an advice.
Whats the right setting or picture style for those like in wedding and restaurant reddish lighting to prevent print out it become very reddish. |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:43 PM
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I noticed that my shots are not sharp enough, regardless on any lens. Could be I boost up the contrast too much.
Gotta change my settings again. Don't want to ruin my shots in Langkawi. Lastly, 17mm is not wide enough. Captured a group photo the other day, had to move backward a bit to make sure everyone is in frame.  |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:45 PM
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^17mm not wide enuf?
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Oct 9 2010, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 9 2010, 09:41 PM) 20 years only ah? I've been gaming for 30 over years. ehh, i referring to the hardcore gaming part. actual gaming, well probably 27 years? i think sure cannot beat you cos i'm only in early 30s. you late 30s. |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 9 2010, 09:45 PM) ^17mm not wide enuf? Yes, looking at 10-12mm. hmm...r u hinting urself u shud get a UWA? hehe... Not hinting la, I'll get one UWA, but don't know when only. If lucky by end of the year, if not God knows when. In the mean time, just tolerate with 17mm lo. |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 9 2010, 09:48 PM) Yes, looking at 10-12mm. how big is d group?Not hinting la, I'll get one UWA, but don't know when only. If lucky by end of the year, if not God knows when. In the mean time, just tolerate with 17mm lo. 17mm not enuf for u but for me is sufficient la i guess seldom take group shots also |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:51 PM
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fruitie - if you're using UWA, you'll be snapping at 17 to 22 range anyway. going towards 10 produces distortion that's bad enough to ruin group photos.
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Oct 9 2010, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Oct 9 2010, 09:50 PM) how big is d group? About 30 people. 17mm not enuf for u but for me is sufficient la i guess seldom take group shots also |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 9 2010, 09:24 PM) where got hard? if you say 24hrs non-stop online gaming [those grinding leveling] then yeah... I've been doing that for 5 years [mainly because no money so want fast cash.... ] ... but playing game since I was 6 years old and first game ever to be play was frog or something hahaha wayyyy backi don't put my gaming stats on signature only. i still play COD:MW2, and going to find time to play BF:BC2. playing hardcore non-stop? oh i'm doing that for about 20 years now. ok la stop here and there but generally still playing games. no big deal. now playing BF:BC2 but now hardly touch any games.... since going in to U This post has been edited by ComradeZ: Oct 9 2010, 09:52 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 9 2010, 09:51 PM) fruitie - if you're using UWA, you'll be snapping at 17 to 22 range anyway. going towards 10 produces distortion that's bad enough to ruin group photos. Yes, I know the distortion will surely happen... This post has been edited by fruitie: Oct 9 2010, 09:53 PM |
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 9 2010, 09:43 PM) I noticed that my shots are not sharp enough, regardless on any lens. Could be I boost up the contrast too much. Want sharp sharp ah? Time to buy LGotta change my settings again. Don't want to ruin my shots in Langkawi. Lastly, 17mm is not wide enough. Captured a group photo the other day, had to move backward a bit to make sure everyone is in frame. |
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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Oct 9 2010, 09:52 PM) if you say 24hrs non-stop online gaming [those grinding leveling] then yeah... I've been doing that for 5 years [mainly because no money so want fast cash.... ] ... but playing game since I was 6 years old and first game ever to be play was frog or something hahaha wayyyy back oh lvling ah? haha. ok ok . then good la. mean you've been gaming long time also. now playing BF:BC2 but now hardly touch any games.... since going in to U but lvling ahh, waste a lot of time. run around. whack whack level up buy potions buy weapons, upgrade skills then whack again. suddenly server decides to shutdown the bye bye effort all gone. |
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 9 2010, 09:53 PM) oh lvling ah? haha. ok ok . then good la. mean you've been gaming long time also. well... to those who play blindly... then yeah... to those who sees 10billion in game for $1000 its rather a job, no ? but lvling ahh, waste a lot of time. run around. whack whack level up buy potions buy weapons, upgrade skills then whack again. suddenly server decides to shutdown the bye bye effort all gone. thats where i got the fund to buy my PC and camera and mostly lots of stuffs....Now, i do about $100 a week is rather easy... |
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 9 2010, 09:53 PM) Want sharp sharp ah? Time to buy L Thanks for stating the obvious. I'm too broke to get a proper lens, apatah lagi L lenses wor... You guys ah keep OT-ing on gaming.  |
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 9 2010, 09:53 PM) Yes, I know the distortion will surely happen... what do you expect la? 17 if subject small. you go 10 then slightly bigger subjects but distorted kau kau.i kena many times from my 10-20 until group photo time i often go to 20mm only. if cannot fit? i will arrange the people. some come front squat. some middle. some back row. the other day i use 10-20 also, shoot like what looks to be about 60 people. stand on chair shoot downwards, get them make many rows. MANY MANY rows. |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 9 2010, 09:41 PM) 20 years only ah? I've been gaming for 30 over years. QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 9 2010, 09:43 PM) I noticed that my shots are not sharp enough, regardless on any lens. Could be I boost up the contrast too much. agree, 17mm not wide enough, LOL... u can't expect there will be 160° with 17mm Gotta change my settings again. Don't want to ruin my shots in Langkawi. Lastly, 17mm is not wide enough. Captured a group photo the other day, had to move backward a bit to make sure everyone is in frame. |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:58 PM
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Well there is always other alternatives for wide shots
stitch few pictures at once |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 9 2010, 09:55 PM) what do you expect la? 17 if subject small. you go 10 then slightly bigger subjects but distorted kau kau. OK, looks like it is not practical to go 10-12 for group shots. i kena many times from my 10-20 until group photo time i often go to 20mm only. if cannot fit? i will arrange the people. some come front squat. some middle. some back row. the other day i use 10-20 also, shoot like what looks to be about 60 people. stand on chair shoot downwards, get them make many rows. MANY MANY rows. Then can save money for UWA. QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:56 PM) agree, 17mm not wide enough, LOL... u can't expect there will be 160° with 17mm I didn't expect la. |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:59 PM
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Today was disastrous... taking group picture indoor using nothing but pop up flash... hahahaha
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Oct 9 2010, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 9 2010, 09:59 PM) OK, looks like it is not practical to go 10-12 for group shots. Then can save money for UWA. I didn't expect la. with tamron sp 90, sharp gila sial! QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Oct 9 2010, 09:59 PM) Today was disastrous... taking group picture indoor using nothing but pop up flash... hahahaha u can use - 1/3 or until -1 whut? didn't u set? plus no diffuser ... |
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Oct 9 2010, 10:04 PM
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no I set already... but the picture were flat... lol that should be expected....or is it the term of "flat" were misused by me...
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Oct 9 2010, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Oct 9 2010, 10:04 PM) no I set already... but the picture were flat... lol that should be expected....or is it the term of "flat" were misused by me... u can use tissue as diffuser mah, i do that cause too poor, can't buy pop up diffuseryou'll be the judge » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 9 2010, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:02 PM) with tamron sp 90, sharp gila sial! and with my jaws opened. |
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Oct 9 2010, 10:07 PM
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thinking of buying digieye flash... but also need to rethink... of what it can actually do :/
on a side note : i tot canon's focusing is better? meaning more sharp? This post has been edited by ComradeZ: Oct 9 2010, 10:08 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 9 2010, 10:07 PM) Wait till you try D3s with 24-70mm f/2.8 and 70-200mm f/2.8 VR II. My eyes gone D700 already droll. and with my jaws opened. |
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Oct 9 2010, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:41 PM) Guys i need an advice. play around with your white balance if auto fails to meet your satisfaction. set the Kelvin to below 4700 or maybe tungsten or maybe a custom white balance.Whats the right setting or picture style for those like in wedding and restaurant reddish lighting to prevent print out it become very reddish. QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Oct 9 2010, 10:04 PM) no I set already... but the picture were flat... lol that should be expected....or is it the term of "flat" were misused by me... waiseh....whats the iso setting btw.you'll be the judge |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:04 PM
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Today I saw holy grail mia lil-brother the "200f2LIS" ..... then i look at my 70-200F4IS and it feel like a childs play lol
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Oct 9 2010, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Oct 9 2010, 11:04 PM) Today I saw holy grail mia lil-brother the "200f2LIS" ..... then i look at my 70-200F4IS and it feel like a childs play lol your girl kay pic spam » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ??wow! the 70-200 f4 is child play then what the hell is my 55-250? shitto el-plastic hot wheels model car? |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:23 PM
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dem sharp la the lens .. great pics! salute! im in love with the model.. can i like her? meow..
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Oct 9 2010, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(rayzaw @ Oct 9 2010, 10:57 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « waiseh....whats the iso setting btw. This post has been edited by ComradeZ: Oct 9 2010, 11:24 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:27 PM
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nah not my gal, too young for me as gua already at unker range liou
yeah lar when you compare 70-200f4LIS with teh holy-grail lil brother .. it's like a two year old vs grown up adult lol.. no fight at all kakakka chick langsung tak mau layan gua |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Oct 9 2010, 11:27 PM) nah not my gal, too young for me as gua already at unker range liou Haloooo nowadays pretty young things very clever........ they like rich old man. yeah lar when you compare 70-200f4LIS with teh holy-grail lil brother .. it's like a two year old vs grown up adult lol.. no fight at all kakakka chick langsung tak mau layan gua |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:33 PM
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prime lenses really are super special.... die la like this.
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Oct 9 2010, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 9 2010, 09:53 PM) Want sharp sharp ah? Time to buy L hahahaa ian,but sometimes, getting sharp images is not about using sharp lenses. technique plays a part too... and tripod. |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 9 2010, 11:32 PM) Haloooo nowadays pretty young things very clever........ they like rich old man. i'm guessing uncle ianho attract a lot of young girls wit all his big big L lens~ |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 9 2010, 11:34 PM) hahahaa ian, u wanna tripod + remote shutter everytime u take a picture? but sometimes, getting sharp images is not about using sharp lenses. technique plays a part too... and tripod. |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 9 2010, 11:34 PM) hahahaa ian, Aiyaaaa I very lauya photog cant help them with technique so I can only help them on how to spend their money lor. but sometimes, getting sharp images is not about using sharp lenses. technique plays a part too... and tripod. |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 9 2010, 11:32 PM) Haloooo nowadays pretty young things very clever........ they like rich old man. agreed with that.. time to rent boat from you to catch jellyfish liou |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 9 2010, 11:36 PM) u wanna tripod + remote shutter everytime u take a picture? erm, to be honest i have to use tripod everytime i take my photos coz my film's iso is only 100 and i don't use flash and my aperture is usually at around 8 to 11.but to be honest with you, getting sharp images involve other kind of factors beside buying the sharpest lens in the world. but then again, what do members on this forum know about photography? |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Oct 9 2010, 11:38 PM) agreed with that.. time to rent boat from you to catch jellyfish liou OK. Nah, I pinjam u my boat. |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 9 2010, 11:40 PM) erm, to be honest i have to use tripod everytime i take my photos coz my film's iso is only 100 and i don't use flash and my aperture is usually at around 8 to 11. can share more master ? but to be honest with you, getting sharp images involve other kind of factors beside buying the sharpest lens in the world. but then again, what do members on this forum know about photography? i know nothing about photography beside hammering the shutter button |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 9 2010, 11:40 PM) erm, to be honest i have to use tripod everytime i take my photos coz my film's iso is only 100 and i don't use flash and my aperture is usually at around 8 to 11. Mind sharing how does other kind of factors beside buying the sharpest lens in the world? Buying the sharpest camera in the world? but to be honest with you, getting sharp images involve other kind of factors beside buying the sharpest lens in the world. but then again, what do members on this forum know about photography? I know nothing about photography except clicking the shutter button and make people happy with the photos I take. |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:52 PM
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I think they r trying to point out what's the significant difference between L and normal lens. So one of the points would be sharpness I guess? Yea there r many other ways to achieve great sharpness too. Maybe spending all your money can at least help compensate the "not so good" skills and in the same one produce sharp image? That's just my point of view. If compare kit Lena to like Tamron or sigma, indeed there r big differences in term of sharpness, built quality, image contrast and et etera. That's why u see canon 17-55 is more than ten times te price of 18-55. Why would people still buy it? Besides sharpness, people also look for speed of the lens. And many over qualities, depending on personal preference. As for me, I demand for high speed, sharpness and large dof. Maybe I don knownphotography as much as u do, yet, that's why I spend so much buying lens that has almost identical focal length.. Oh well, let image and picture quality justify whether it is necessary to spend ten times more money on similar identical lens.. That's my point of view. Peace<
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Oct 9 2010, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(ianho @ Oct 9 2010, 11:44 PM) OK. Nah, I pinjam u my boat. ahahah that's a damn good ride » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ehhh engine mana ? lol need at least a 120HP mia engine with stainless steel propeller |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:55 PM
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And to me, as long as I have enough money to get third party lens with the same specs as canon lens, i would be more than satisfied already
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Oct 10 2010, 12:09 AM
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my pov,
well everyone had their own preference... he/she love to deploy tripod, jacking aperture to F8 @ ISO100 does not mean other's would do that. Ask those fast pace event photog or wedding photog and see if they would show you the middle finger or not. Just who the hell gonna wait for you to take ya sweet time to deploy the tripod ? you miss means you miss lol ade betul kar ?? or perhaps ask the groom n bride to had another wedding dinner/ church session again just because your godly tripod condemn during the event and you cant shot without it... got logic kar ini macam? btw i dont even need a tripod to get sharp pic while doing macro over 1:1 magnification @ F14-F18 at iso100 |
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Oct 10 2010, 12:17 AM
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Sharpness is nice but is sharpness everything?
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Oct 10 2010, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 10 2010, 12:17 AM) Sharpness is nice but is sharpness everything? NO. For me, blur blur is everything. |
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Oct 10 2010, 12:19 AM
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nope, i believe everything comes in a package, such as color, contrast, build, speed and etc
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Oct 10 2010, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(ifer @ Oct 9 2010, 11:40 PM) erm, to be honest i have to use tripod everytime i take my photos coz my film's iso is only 100 and i don't use flash and my aperture is usually at around 8 to 11. can share more skill?but to be honest with you, getting sharp images involve other kind of factors beside buying the sharpest lens in the world. but then again, what do members on this forum know about photography? QUOTE(nicotine @ Oct 9 2010, 11:48 PM) can share more master ? same herei know nothing about photography beside hammering the shutter button Added on October 10, 2010, 12:22 am QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 10 2010, 12:17 AM) Sharpness is nice but is sharpness everything? i love soft focusThis post has been edited by AlexLee277: Oct 10 2010, 12:22 AM |
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Oct 10 2010, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Oct 10 2010, 12:09 AM) my pov, he said he is using film camera. don't get him wrong... he said that his camera can do only those things he said. Unlike digital can do pretty much everything except being similar quality to film camera. Thats why even now for most of the "moment shots" or money shot in hollywood they would prefer film over digitalwell everyone had their own preference... he/she love to deploy tripod, jacking aperture to F8 @ ISO100 does not mean other's would do that. Ask those fast pace event photog or wedding photog and see if they would show you the middle finger or not. Just who the hell gonna wait for you to take ya sweet time to deploy the tripod ? you miss means you miss lol ade betul kar ?? or perhaps ask the groom n bride to had another wedding dinner/ church session again just because your godly tripod condemn during the event and you cant shot without it... got logic kar ini macam? btw i dont even need a tripod to get sharp pic while doing macro over 1:1 magnification @ F14-F18 at iso100 |
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Oct 10 2010, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Oct 9 2010, 11:04 PM) Today I saw holy grail mia lil-brother the "200f2LIS" ..... then i look at my 70-200F4IS and it feel like a childs play lol Hey, these are really superb shots! kay pic spam » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « With 70-200mm F4 IS? |
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Oct 10 2010, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 10 2010, 12:25 AM) Hey, these are really superb shots! *the return of the haul queenWith 70-200mm F4 IS? *runs~ Added on October 10, 2010, 12:39 amIanho or any Sifu here, i have a question wanna ask u, what this Yoighlander lens? can't seems to google it. This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Oct 10 2010, 12:39 AM |
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Oct 10 2010, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Oct 10 2010, 12:24 AM) he said he is using film camera. don't get him wrong... he said that his camera can do only those things he said. Unlike digital can do pretty much everything except being similar quality to film camera. Thats why even now for most of the "moment shots" or money shot in hollywood they would prefer film over digital ok maybe i'm too sleeply an misinterpret what he said. His cam can do only those stuff ? maybe he's right if there's lens where aperture range start from F8, there's no iso 200 , 400 flim ? if yes then i'll apologize... if no then it's BS, you fap around and tell the world how sifu level you are, you dont need this L lah and that 7 without sharing any info then it's not right. Get my point? peace as for the moment shot's not only limited to cam ler bro even a cheap kai lorkia phone or pin hole cam also can whut, you got something the media wanted, milking few mill also no prob wat ade betul kar ? |
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Oct 10 2010, 12:45 AM
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I much prefer a stellar composition than a tack-sharp photo which fails to draw any sort of interest to it. So long the photo is in focus and isn't shaky it's good enough for me.
According to the way ifer is putting it, sounds like he knows much more about getting a sharp photo than us all. So please grace and enlighten us with your vast and profound photographic knowledge. And it's Voigtlander. Cosina-Voigtlander. |
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Oct 10 2010, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 10 2010, 12:25 AM) Hey, these are really superb shots! err yeah sis, u mau 70-200 ? With 70-200mm F4 IS? get 2.8mkII else u gonna regret later hahaha |
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Oct 10 2010, 12:47 AM
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xlegato, thanks! just found out it is Voigtlander.. where can get it? i LOVE THE QUALITY! IINM, it is Leica lens, am i right?
Added on October 10, 2010, 12:48 amit can be converted to EF mount right? where can find that converter? This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Oct 10 2010, 12:48 AM |
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QUOTE(ComradeZ @ Oct 10 2010, 12:24 AM) he said he is using film camera. don't get him wrong... he said that his camera can do only those things he said. Unlike digital can do pretty much everything except being similar quality to film camera. Thats why even now for most of the "moment shots" or money shot in hollywood they would prefer film over digital Eh? Unless you mean medium format (even this I doubt) or large format, I doubt people still use 35mm film over digital for "money shot(s)" in Hollywood. Knowing how much post-processing photos of that caliber have to go through to make it, I honestly doubt they still utilize 35mm film.It's more of Phase One/Hasselblad here, not Canon/Nikon... QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Oct 10 2010, 12:47 AM) xlegato, thanks! just found out it is Voigtlander.. where can get it? i LOVE THE QUALITY! IINM, it is Leica lens, am i right? By Leica do you mean the M-mount? Yeah, most of CV's lenses are for the Leica M-mount.Added on October 10, 2010, 12:48 amit can be converted to EF mount right? where can find that converter? eBay. This post has been edited by xLegato: Oct 10 2010, 12:52 AM |
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Oct 10 2010, 12:44 AM) ok maybe i'm too sleeply an misinterpret what he said. His cam can do only those stuff ? maybe he's right if there's lens where aperture range start from F8, there's no iso 200 , 400 flim ? if yes then i'll apologize... if no then it's BS, you fap around and tell the world how sifu level you are, you dont need this L lah and that 7 without sharing any info then it's not right. Get my point? as for the moment shot i was telling film over digital not which cam is better than any cam... and yes they use a film for movies, digital usually used for fast cutpeace as for the moment shot's not only limited to cam ler bro even a cheap kai lorkia phone or pin hole cam also can whut, you got something the media wanted, milking few mill also no prob wat ade betul kar ? @xlegato was refering to capturing movies not photography... sorry for misguided words This post has been edited by ComradeZ: Oct 10 2010, 12:52 AM |
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Oct 10 2010, 12:46 AM) err yeah sis, u mau 70-200 ? Oh please. get 2.8mkII else u gonna regret later hahahaIf I want also can only get the cheapest 70-200mm series - 70-200mm f/4 non-IS. That's the only model I can afford la among all 70-200mm lenses. This post has been edited by fruitie: Oct 10 2010, 12:52 AM |
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Oct 10 2010, 12:53 AM
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bro ComradeZ,
you sesat or i sesat ? we toking bout photography now you change to movie ? unker can't find my way out ..... must be too much whisky |
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