As long as price per performance is okay. Which is what we are seeing how AMD is competing nowadays.

For sure new technology from Intel won't be cheap. At least we know Bulldozer is around USD250 today. Next year will perhaps go down to sub USD200.

Definitely there will be people who will go for top performance no matter what is the cost. And I salute those guys with deeps pocket for driving the technology up. While letting us normal people do the exact same thing with cost effective processor.

but now, the price : performance ratio does not justify either.

I like the way you respond to this new AMD bulldozer. I'm also one of old AMD user. although i very very upset with the new AMD CPU, but still, i feel that, there is the hope for the AMD. I also hoping that, sales person that handling CPU selling or DIY selling, not to pushing Intel product..

But we got to admit that many will choose intel when they are building a new rig withn end of this year
but of course there are people who lacks of knowledge buy bulldozer procs just because its brand news+amazing discount given by seller
so all we have to do is pray that its enough to make they operational smoothly for another development

I just hope there's that many people who factor x264 as the most important benchmark.....

We're paying the price for AMD's server first and only approach with processor design right now.

They'll hit power and thermal walls quite soon if they follow through with this.I mean,look at the FX-8150,it's already gobbling down massive amounts of power on stock as it is.

That is probably more of a sign of immature 32nm work. The power consumption will probably improve by Piledriver. If it doesn't improve by then, or by the following refresh, then Bulldozer probably would be a dead end.

so far, no stock of FX processor arrive. My order has been delayed, perhaps a week

lets hope when we got the invoice, the price is really lower

Overclock3D's AMD FX Bulldozer 8150 8 Core Review video...

He also talks on AMD's briefing on overclocking caveats.

Other interesting reviews that came in late...

- PC Perspective » Reviews » AMD FX-8150 Processor Review - Can Bulldozer Unearth an AMD Victory?
- Guru3D » Hardware reviews » Processors » AMD FX 8150 - 8120 - 6100 and 4100 performance review
- HT4U.net: AMD Bulldozer FX in the full test - The lame horse
- HEXUS.net - CPU - Review - AMD FX-8150 at 4.7GHz. Does it stand tall?
- TweakTown USA Edition > Articles > CPU, APU & Chipsets > AMD FX-8150 vs. Intel i7-2600k CrossFireX HD 6970 x3 Head-to-Head

This post has been edited by lex: Oct 18 2011, 10:28 AM

Any FX8120 or any other lower range is being tested? I'm very interested to see how much OC potential this baby have. It seems the 32nm is kind of unmature; OC above 4ghz the power consumption increase substantially, lots of leakage it seems. Hope the lower range do not suffer from this

CPU and GPU are not in same game league, Radeon HD30xx & HD40xx success is very difficult to be duplicated in these case. GPU depends a lot of the driver. Hopefully launch of window 8 or some other workaround able to boost the per core performance for AMD.

Hopefully the next iteration will be push forward and make a good optimization to boost the per core performance.

refer to guru3d benchmark even fx4100 still way to far at behind >< i thinks only can consider as alternative to i3 but not i5 for sure ><
Hai hope my Q6600 can last long till next year to see how amd perform (he is seriously bottleneck my 560TI ><

This post has been edited by bai1101: Oct 14 2011, 09:24 AM

Price/performance? It seems Intel are better now. With i5 2500K selling just above RM600. IMO, if AMD wanna hit the price/performance mark, + given their shit power consumption, FX-8150 should have sell @ Rm500+ not RM900+.

There is simply no reason to buy AMD now, since Intel come out Sandy bridge, AMD isnt price/performance anymore. We got expensive 1100T, then the useless Llano, now bulldozer. All overpriced.

No I am hoping the salesman is telling the truth. AMD is product bad and expensive now, AMD ripping off their customer now. It is the truth.

U hv to agree with billytong, the FX8150 should worth RM600+/- only since its performance is not even close to 2600K & sucking more power. 8150 is more or less than a 2500K.

wonder why in guru3d comparing all the new FX's, FX8150,8120,6100,4100 all score almost the same in crysis 2 at 1920x1080 res.

means for those who wanna go for bulldozer can go for cheaper solution FX6100 & FX4100???

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx-8150-...mance-review/10

if direct convert from USD it should be around
FX-8150: Eight cores, 3.6 GHz CPU base (3.9 GHz Turbo Core, 4.2 GHz Max Turbo), RM 772 (USD 245)

FX-8120: Eight cores, 3.1 GHz CPU base (3.4 GHz Turbo Core, 4.0 GHz Max Turbo), RM 646 (USD 205)

FX-6100: Six cores, 3.3 GHz CPU base (3.6 GHz Turbo Core, 3.9 GHz Max Turbo), RM 520 (USD 165)

FX-4100: Four cores, 3.6 GHz CPU base (3.7 GHz Turbo Core, 3.8 GHz Max Turbo), RM 363 (USD 115)

But distro here selling quite expensive >< Like other say we better put hope on next version.

I just noticed that prices (USD) for FX processors in Newegg appears higher than listed during release date. AMD shooting itself in the foot?

FX-8150: Eight cores, 3.6 GHz CPU base (3.9 GHz Turbo Core, 4.2 GHz Max Turbo), RM 882 (USD 279.99)

FX-8120: Eight cores, 3.1 GHz CPU base (3.4 GHz Turbo Core, 4.0 GHz Max Turbo), RM 693 (USD 219.99)

FX-6100: Six cores, 3.3 GHz CPU base (3.6 GHz Turbo Core, 3.9 GHz Max Turbo), RM 598 (USD 189.99)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....&name=FX-Series

Ah! taking my post out of context much?

I was replying to TristanX about incoming intel new processor arch and not comparing to the current midlle or top performing Intel processor.

Definitely AMD Bulldozer is not doing well at the moment. You can read my earlier post with 5 point underlining the current issue.

IMHO, we should look at this situation objectively without much frothing in the mouth. A non competitive AMD also means that Intel will monopolize the x86 processor market once again. Perhaps we will see another US$1000 processor soon. Perhaps than the people with mouth frothing now will sober up a little bit or probably have mouth frothing issue with Intel CPU pricing?

Anyway, the CPU market is not a charity. Hence it is not a good idea to push consumer to buy AMD when AMD is not performing. Let's not reward them (referring to AMD) when they screwed up.

1. If you (as PC enthusiast or the master geek of your community) need to buy a CPU in the short term. By all means, buy Intel. As their price and performance ratio is the best at the moment.

2. If someone ask for recommendation for short term purchase, recommend the same.

3. But a bit of education or being informative is good. Just to let people know what is the current situation with regards to Intel and AMD competition in the space. As well as letting people know the direction of AMD new Architecture (i.e. shooting for multiple core performance while not so hot on single core performance and the fusion stuff next year which should improve things).

In respond to other comment about seller being dishonest. Well nothing much we can do about that right? Seller are always selling to make quick bucks. The only defence for that is education (i.e. consumer not supposed to just walk in and buy stuff without doing any research). Hence my 3rd point above. I know that much of us here in LYN are supposed to be reference point of people around us. So do our best ler.

Cheers!


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Edit: Just to say that at this point I am so damn jealous to see so many stars on other poster . I am long time user of LYN myself but never being chatty so much in the forum. And just post whenever there is a reason. Like this debacle with AMD Bulldozer. I know that everyone here is being fair. And we all want to see a verry competitive and high performing CPU market. But hey, a little bit flame here and there add spice to discussion!

This post has been edited by haris: Oct 14 2011, 10:40 AM

Even the new x79 chipset wont be in mass production it seems most board manufacturer deem it to expensive to gather general publix interest and the additional core wont appeal most buyers.

Sandy bridge is just too good in performance and price.... in this trend intel can delay ivy bridge for at least 2 more years and still be on par with bulldozer ; ; orz

Sorry for replying my own post. Just found more technical information that might give more clues on the state of Bulldozer today. Probably this will be my last post about the matter.

Quoted from ArsTechnica user comment

Hard to say for sure, they already have the roadmap for the IB anyway so I doubt Intel will delay... besides AMD's BD actually beat the i7 on the gaming front so it won't be long for them to catch up if Intel stays stagnant

Actually the only thing preventing us from praising AMD now is the pricepoint of the new CPU... if the tech is priced similarly or lower than the i5 2500K then I'd imagine a lot of ppl interested with the 8150