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post Mar 9 2011, 01:28 PM

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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/2..._Gen_Chips.html

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Advanced Micro Devices has finalized shipments schedules of its future microprocessors, according to industrial sources. The world's second largest designer of x86 microprocessors will begin commercial shipments of its high-end FX-series chips based on Bulldozer micro-architecture in the second half of June and will initiate supplies of A-series code-named Llano accelerated processing units (APUs) in early July.

Shipments of AMD FX-series high-end desktop microprocessors will commence on the week of June 20th, 2011; Supplies of A-series APUs will begin on the week of July 4th, 2011, according to industrial sources. As expected, AMD's Bulldozer central processing units for desktops will become available earlier than Llano APUs. As a result, AMD will be able to create a "halo" effect for its microprocessor lineup with a high-end offering that is projected to outperform existing Phenom II chips by 50%.

Based on a document seen by X-bit labs, AMD plans to release four eight-core AMD FX8000-series chips, two six-core AMD FX6000-series microprocessors and two quad-core AMD FX4000-series central processing units (CPUs) this year; four chips are to be launched in Q2 2011, another four processors will be introduced in Q4 2011.  The amount of quad-core and dual-core A-series APUs to be released this calendar year will be eleven, if the plans do not change.

One of the intrigues that remain is the formal launch date of the new CPUs and APUs by AMD. Some expect the company to introduce its desktops chips with Bulldozer micro-architecture at the E3 trade-show.

AMD did not comment on the news-story.

Anyone here didn't jump to the P67/Sandy Bridge platform yet and still holding out for this?
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post Mar 9 2011, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(barry @ Mar 9 2011, 04:16 PM)
Does it mean that we can have a cheap desktop solution without the need of a gfx card? I am very keen on a HTPC - low power, silent, decent performance. Hope that this is a viable solution.
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ITX HTPCs and only web surfing + movies? Then the current AMD Fusion mobos are for you.

If you want to do 720p gaming wait for Llano. The IGP is rumoured to be similar in performance to the Radeon 5670.

Personally I'm waiting to see how well Bulldozer fares, I can wait since my rig still holds well with new games, and if AMD is competitive against Intel's offerings I'd buy their stuff instead since my current one's an Intel.
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post Mar 17 2011, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Mar 16 2011, 01:41 PM)
All indicators from AMD says Bulldozer is only compatible with socket AM3+ motherboards. Socket AM3+ also has an extra pin on the CPU and thus will not fit.
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post Mar 18 2011, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Mar 17 2011, 05:39 PM)
Stop with the Bulldozer updates!Why not have some Llano updates? tongue.gif

Initial Desktop AMD "Llano" Lineup Will Include Five APUs
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/2..._Documents.html

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Because we lowyat kakis mostly like uber rigs with performance discrete cards tongue.gif

Llano's main sell, IMO will be the budget PC rigs and OEM desktop/laptop builds.
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post Mar 19 2011, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Mar 18 2011, 10:20 PM)
I think it will be FM1 Socket and hopefully backwards compatible with newer processor next year..

Llano 400SP Graphic card performance maybe around HD3870. or maybe better since HD3870 is 320 SP..but no one knows.

But if it is better than HD 3870,it is quite decent already  wink.gif
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More comparable to 5570, since it has similar shaders to the Redwood core due to DX11 support, 400 shaders at slower speeds and a shared memory bus means performance is more akin to 5570 than the 5670.
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post Apr 14 2011, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Apr 14 2011, 02:25 PM)
Woah. Llano quad core also below 700 USD. Is it gonna be more than 500? :S
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Compare prices with the Sandy Bridge equivalent. The 700USD quote is for the whole rig.

Regarding USB3, would they release a new southbridge that supports it for FX890? That would be important to enthusiasts I reckon, rather than the current third party Renesas chips.
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post May 5 2011, 01:17 PM

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The A8 APU is expected to be uncompetitive from the processor's point of view, it should only return scores similar to Athlon X4. You won't be looking at it at all unless you plan to buy entry/mid range laptops or HTPCs that need more performance than Brazos/Ontario APUs.
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post May 16 2011, 01:08 PM

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http://twitter.com/#!/ilucasmr

This guy claims to have a FX-4110 and posted superpi results. Translate from Portuguese to English.

QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ May 7 2011, 02:59 PM)
I read some really impressive marks.
FX-8100 on stock is as fast as i7 2600K (OC-ed to 5GHz) in single threaded workload.
A beast is coming. tongue.gif
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sos?

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: May 16 2011, 01:09 PM
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post Jun 16 2011, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 16 2011, 01:12 AM)
Yes, generally SSD gives you the most significant performance boost. A known fact.

We do not know how ultra portable Llano is. And what are the models available for Malaysian market. 12"? 13.3"? 14"?
MYR2100? I'd consider an Acer 3820TG or 4830TG instead. I reckon it is approx MYR3000 too (+ an SSD, of course).
Balance performance of both CPU and GPU.

P/S I think it depends of price. If Llano priced at MYR1500-1700, I'd say it is one good value-for-money.
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How would a SSD give a significant performance boost apart from faster Windows load times? Just curious here.
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post Jun 30 2011, 11:55 AM

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http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/zakladni...v-zari?start=11

FX-8130P @ 4GHz vs i7 990X @ 4GHz

Sounds promising if it's the new stepping, even better if it's the old stepping.
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post Aug 11 2011, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Aug 11 2011, 11:31 AM)
got review on it or picture ? tempting..
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For reviews don't expect it to be outstanding, it's just value RAM after all.
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post Aug 22 2011, 11:50 AM

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http://www.chiphell.com/thread-250461-1-1.html

More Bulldozer benchmarks! Taking on an i7 2600k with both processors at 3.6GHz.
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post Sep 12 2011, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 12 2011, 04:47 PM)
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-series-...der/13540.html#

Sad,
Kinda figured. Glad I stopped waiting and went Intel. Good luck to those who are still waiting, hopefully it's at least *close* to 2500k/2600k
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Given the price there (surely inflated a bit), I estimate the 8150 is being positioned against the 2500K.
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post Sep 12 2011, 11:51 PM

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http://www.hpcwire.com/hpcwire/2011-09-09/...big_supers.html

Seems like HPC customers are already buying up Interlagos CPUs. I take that as Bulldozer outperforming the current microarchitecture.
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post Sep 13 2011, 04:24 PM

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http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037734171&postcount=3

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Board is primed, hopefully BD makes use of what it brings to the table.

I think you will be happy with it. Not ultraf***ingblown out the water with it, but after OCing I think you will be good with your purchase.


I take that as a hint from the HardOCP chief editor.
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post Sep 14 2011, 08:45 PM

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http://blogs.amd.com/play/2011/09/09/guinness/

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Even with more conservative methods, the AMD FX processors, with multiplier unlocked throughout the range, appear to scale with cold.  We also achieved clock frequencies well above 5GHz using only air or sub-$100 water cooling solutions.

Now the last question: How much voltage can Zambezi processors sustain before degradation?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4770/amd-set...dozer-processor
The 4.8GHz hit was on an Antec Kuhler water cooling kit. I guess that typical 24/7 home OC setups will top out at 5GHz.

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post Sep 14 2011, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(narong @ Sep 14 2011, 09:21 PM)
So it's worth to wait for bulldozer ?
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Depends. It certainly won't beat SB in single core benchmarks, that is a given. But it appears to clock very well. At worst, it'll be like Pentium D minus the extreme power and heat.

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post Sep 19 2011, 04:00 PM

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AMD Trinity APU launching Q1 2012

IIRC, Trinity APUs will be using an improved version of Bulldozer modules that will be present in next year's Komodo chip. Perhaps Bulldozer Enhanced is coming Q2 2012?

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post Sep 20 2011, 06:55 PM

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http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,837552/B...ie/?iid=1555077

Not sure if serious benchmarks, as OBR leaked a batch of fake benchmarks to Donanimhaber before.
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post Sep 20 2011, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(lex @ Sep 20 2011, 08:19 PM)
Dear fraudmeister OBR again? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Sep 20 2011, 08:23 PM)
Anything OBR says, write or does have to be taken with a large chunk of rock salt, a grain wouldn't be enough.
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Well, I already said "not sure if serious". I expect the 8150 to perform better than those scores given, since OBR is a known pro-Intel troll.

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