according to a source (as all story goes)

Launch Date : Mid Oct...Seems Very Sure
Pricing : RM 450 (6 Core???) to RM 800 (Top End)
Performance : Between I5 to I7 (Stock I guess)
Deal Breaker : Throw in a BF3 game for FREE!!!!!

what is deal breaker means?
sorry,im a bit lame on this

Most likely there will not be a 5GHz stock BD in the future. It is likely that some minor improvements is made to BD's architecture to improve its performance. AMD's priority now is not the desktop space and not much effort will be placed in a market they can't compete very well and is not that big anymore. AMD's priority is more of the server space, that's why you see the server BD, Interlagos is released way earlier.

I never said that it is impossible for IB to be 4GHz, I just say that it is more likely that Intel wouldn't. Why would they release the first iteration at 3.8GHz with the current price when they can release a new processor with a 200MHz speed bump over the original iteration and call it an upgrade with a higher price. There is no need for Intel to be pushing the limits of their processors and raise the competitive bar when they are not facing much competition from AMD.

The price of Core i7 2600K is not a constant. It has been steadily decreasing since it was first launched and Core i7 2700K when launched will be priced at the original price of Core i7 2600K at release a few months ago, not at the current price of Core i7 2600K hence what I mean by higher price. The quality of the processor can also drop at the end of the lifetime of the product as they shift their attention, equipment and resources for the newer product.

There are many ways to counter yield issues and one of them is setting the standard factory voltage a bit higher. That is why Llano has such high voltages to increase the probability of having a 'good' chip but in actual fact its voltages can be much lower than the original. High stock speeds doesn't matter when you can have processors at a standard voltage that they have come to accept. The method of quality control is never the same and it may be totally different 6 months from now.

The thing is even with the current SB, Intel still have enough room to launch a 3.6-3.8GHz SB counter BD should BD turn out to be good enough to threaten their SB leading position.

if u ask me I do not have high hopes on BD taking the crown, looking at how much headroom Intel still have under its sleeves, and AMD isnt proud about showing off their BD performance unlike bobcat, Llano.

Different price range nawh hw u compare that 

It is normal for companies to cherry pick their comparisons to make themselves look better. Nobody wants a chart that shows that your product is inferior to the competition. It is a fallacy to even consider that BD having a much higher default clock would result in it having higher performance than SB. There are many other variables in play that will affect its performance as both of them are not identical in any way as they are made by 2 different person with differing methods. If your statement is true then I can assume that a 1.5L Toyota will have equal performance, top speed and mileage as a 1.5L Proton regardless of price.

It would be a lot better to actually wait for the user reviews to come out to actually decide whether BD does deliver as promised. I'm not saying that BD will annihilate or dominate SB but the numbers will show what is BD strong points and weak points.
When you're the underdog in the industry and you're against a competition that is dominating you have no choice but to be in the average field. AMD is only able to creep up slowly while gaining market share and not be an instant success overnight. Also to consider that AMD is much smaller than Intel therefore R&D budget is also constrained which will definitely affect the duration of making a product and how well a product will be made as there are less manpower to deal with the work. Nobody is forcing you to get AMD, if you have the money for a top range then get Intel. You have the money, you have the freedom of choice then buy what you want.

Average consumer dont really care about clock speed. as long as the price/performace is great. it will sell well.

If the real performance is so, it is not sucks.
FX-4150 will gives better gaming performance compared to i3 2100, considered a win already.

When the price is reasonable, everything will be fine.
No people will complain but instead, start recommending it.

The release date keep changing. Is there a release date?

Suprisingly, so near to the launch date but no official review yet. Hmmmmm. I thought all those big time sites or reviewers normally get it a couple days before the official launch date?

actually gaming performance isnt that bad under real world situation, 3dmark is not a game......

@.@ And u judge the gaming performance wif only 2 graphs ? lolssss ...

It will lose no doubt however those game are tested with no aa and 1050 res so i wouldnt really call it accurate.

And the site state p state is not working properly for the cpu it doesnt turbo up according to ppl translating it on overclock.net.

The early reviews tell me 8150 is rubbish. But I never intended to get the 8150 anyway. Why bother when the 8120 is far cheaper and probably hits the same clockspeeds after OC?

Besides, you're not going to be playing games at 1024*768, nor are you going to care about the the framerate on those. We all mostly game on 1080p anyway.