i'd say marketing department need to bear some responsibilities on this "huge" disappointment. they created d hype which made some ppl thought that BD would be Intel slayer. for those who closely follow AMD in recent years, they should know there's no way AMD can close the performance gap (let alone slayin Intel) with Bulldozer, which is something totally new if compared to previous gen. The marketing guys shouldn't labelled BD as FX series thou, coz FX still hold a special status in some AMD fans (or most), & when reality hits, it sure pains more.

undeniably BD is a let down, personally d power consumption (when overclocked) surprised me d most. but d things are here, so either i go blue camp or i just bare with it. no one is committed to use one brand of chip only, so it's always up to d users to choose what suit themselves d most. it amuses me to see some even go to d extent like having breakup with gf (those swearing they'll never buy AMD again) because they feel cheated. for me, i'll just stick around for a 'lil longer (since I've ledi got an 990FX board & doesn't want to go thru d hassle of changin board & chip). whether BD architecture could be foundation for better product lines in future is remain to be seen. fingers crossed & i'll keep reminding myself to stick my feet on d ground regardless what being "advertised" next time. 

With all those bad reviews, it seems on oct 12, AMD stocks still open up higher than previous day lol.

http://www.google.com/finance?q=AMD

I just realise Intel is practically 4.5x bigger than AMD lol...

i'd say marketing department need to bear some responsibilities on this "huge" disappointment. they created d hype which made some ppl thought that BD would be Intel slayer. for those who closely follow AMD in recent years, they should know there's no way AMD can close the performance gap (let alone slayin Intel) with Bulldozer, which is something totally new if compared to previous gen. The marketing guys shouldn't labelled BD as FX series thou, coz FX still hold a special status in some AMD fans (or most), & when reality hits, it sure pains more.

undeniably BD is a let down, personally d power consumption (when overclocked) surprised me d most. but d things are here, so either i go blue camp or i just bare with it. no one is committed to use one brand of chip only, so it's always up to d users to choose what suit themselves d most. it amuses me to see some even go to d extent like having breakup with gf (those swearing they'll never buy AMD again) because they feel cheated. for me, i'll just stick around for a 'lil longer (since I've ledi got an 990FX board & doesn't want to go thru d hassle of changin board & chip). whether BD architecture could be foundation for better product lines in future is remain to be seen. fingers crossed & i'll keep reminding myself to stick my feet on d ground regardless what being "advertised" next time. 

With all those bad reviews, it seems on oct 12, AMD stocks still open up higher than previous day lol.

http://www.google.com/finance?q=AMD

I just realise Intel is practically 4.5x bigger than AMD lol...

What do you expect from turbo core?
It should work because CPU runs in turbo mode is not something rocket science.

wait for enhanced bulldozer, i think it will come out by beginning of 2012...



ur CPU is good enough for most things now.. unless u r into very heavy gaming.. just wait 

all people blame and curse AMD, not knowing that global foundaries (the fab company amd uses) had serious issues, and bulldozer was one of the victims..

AMD always comes back ...

Who is responsible?
I'd say the management team of AMD should take 50% of the blame.
They do not know the work of their staff, both engineering and marketing team.
They should have fired both engineering and marketing guys many years ago.

The engineering guy shares the 25% of blame. For his crappy work over the years.
The marketing guy shares the 25% of blame. For the sh*t he spewed over the years.

, so will u get 1 to OC it kaw kaw?  

By reading the reviews online,
that reminds me what happened to ATI few years ago, when HD2000 <-> HD3000 era.

The technology used at HD3000 is totally different compare to HD2000, but the performance was poor compare to it's competitor. But after sometime, with the release of HD4000, the whole story start to change in VGA card market.

I start to think AMD uses the same tactic for it's processor now

....its undeniable the results are shocking. neway, another year of waiting to go.

calm down bro.. I was just saying this speaking from a general perspective

i was so excited about bulldozer also.. but its finally out and this is all they could do..

no one ever speaks about global foundaries when the blame should at least 50% on them. They are the ones who fabricate the cpus.. amd is an engineering company it can't build the whole thing it self..

you look at things from the end user perspective, "show me the product or get out"... just listen to the story, try to know WHY THEY FAILED.. the bulldozer u see today was not AMD original plan

this bulldozer focus on games performance or multitasking job?
i thought multitasking should be great on FX

so AMD Bulldozer FX-8150 better or Intel Sandy Bridge i7-2600K better now? Quite confuse now!

Then really wasted lof of my time for waiting this Bulldozer.Zzz TDUEnthusiast, u already changed Asus Sabertooth P67 mobo.

With the HD 3000 series and forward, their die size is smaller than Nvidia's die sizes. In short, ATI was able to manufacture their GPUs much more cheaply than Nvidia could hope and was able to hit all the market segments at once (low, budget, mid, and high) with good GPUs; Nvidia's much larger chips took much longer to be shrunk in order to service the lower market segments and doing so cost Nvidia a lot.

In the case of Bulldozer, its die size is 45% larger than Intel's Sandy Bridge, so AMD is instead in Nvidia's position and Intel is in ATI's position.

The difference is Nvidia have the performance with a larger more power hungry chip, it beat ATI completely. But here.... AMD, they are neither. Big for nothing. the 16MB cache is a waste of money.

They should have take Phenom II X4/X6 and tweak it, shrink it down to 32nm for higher frequency or add two more cores to become X8 using the smaller 32nm tech. All these can easily finish SB 1155 in multitask area better than the stupid BD now. And the R&D is also much cheaper, because u take an old chip and tweak it.