PROTON SAGA BLMCLUB V11, version eleven
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 Feb 23 2011, 02:48 PM
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2,250 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Penang / Bentong, Pahang / Genting   
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I plan to get a Saga FL 1.3 Auto soon (still deciding between Standard or Exec), cuz its within my budget. I'm currently driving a Wira 1.6 Auto (1995). I wonder what will be the differences I should expect? I need to drive up and down Genting quite frequently, so this car should be able to do the job right? (from KL-karak highway and also via Batang Kali). Usually will drive the car 2 ppl only. Budget is about 40-45k.
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Feb 23 2011, 03:06 PM
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3,112 posts Joined: Jul 2006
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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Feb 23 2011, 02:48 PM) I plan to get a Saga FL 1.3 Auto soon (still deciding between Standard or Exec), cuz its within my budget. I'm currently driving a Wira 1.6 Auto (1995). I wonder what will be the differences I should expect? I need to drive up and down Genting quite frequently, so this car should be able to do the job right? (from KL-karak highway and also via Batang Kali). Usually will drive the car 2 ppl only. Budget is about 40-45k. Saga >100kg more heavier than Wira Wira is 1.6L while Saga is 1.3L So what you expect? I will suggest you buy Persona rather Saga, else you will suffer in terms of FC and power with Saga. |
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Feb 23 2011, 03:26 PM
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70 posts Joined: Jun 2009
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hey guys, have you faced this sound coming from the side mirrors while driving on the highway? I get the squeaky noises and I'm worried that my sidemirrors will 'fly' one day. lol any solutions for this?
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Feb 23 2011, 04:29 PM
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1,329 posts Joined: Sep 2007 From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. 
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Feb 23 2011, 03:06 PM) Saga >100kg more heavier than Wira Waaa.... Interesting... 100KG man...how come that much heavier?  in my mind I am even thinking that Saga might be a lighter car... Anyway, overall a lighter car is considered better or? |
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Feb 23 2011, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Feb 23 2011, 04:29 PM) Waaa.... Interesting... 100KG man...how come that much heavier? For me Wira 1.6L auto -> Saga 1.3L auto consider downgrade. Especially he always travel to Genting. in my mind I am even thinking that Saga might be a lighter car... Anyway, overall a lighter car is considered better or?I think Campro engine contribute to the extra weight, becos is alloy. In terms of weight, Saga = Vios, Wira = Myvi. This post has been edited by coolkwc: Feb 23 2011, 04:37 PM |
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Feb 23 2011, 04:54 PM
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465 posts Joined: May 2005 From: Puchong, Selangor
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Feb 23 2011, 04:34 PM) For me Wira 1.6L auto -> Saga 1.3L auto consider downgrade. Especially he always travel to Genting. Yeah, the difference could be painful at first. I downgraded from a Satria 1.8 manual to a Saga 1.3 auto and the pickup at first is I think Campro engine contribute to the extra weight, becos is alloy. In terms of weight, Saga = Vios, Wira = Myvi.  After awhile, i'm used to it.. Its more leg friendly in traffic jams  |
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Feb 23 2011, 04:54 PM
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133 posts Joined: Dec 2005 
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Feb 23 2011, 02:33 PM) then must be this particular car's problem liao oh i think the gear spring is broken already...common problem with the car...but it needs very simple fix...Added on February 23, 2011, 4:58 pm QUOTE(coolkwc @ Feb 23 2011, 04:34 PM) For me Wira 1.6L auto -> Saga 1.3L auto consider downgrade. Especially he always travel to Genting. alluminium should be lighter...older engine using cast iron which is heavier...I think Campro engine contribute to the extra weight, becos is alloy. In terms of weight, Saga = Vios, Wira = Myvi. but the chassis is heavier than older car... which is normal for proton car now...they use high tenstile steel This post has been edited by xshiro: Feb 23 2011, 05:03 PM |
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Feb 23 2011, 08:01 PM
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4,735 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: ★~Starlight~★
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Feb 22 2011, 07:20 PM) U inspired me to go test drive tomorrow in VW Ampang.. there got a hot SA... I wana ask her demo how to close bonnet... haha....  did u ask her to do t demo? p/s: < dont do this infront of ur sa..hahaha  |
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Feb 23 2011, 10:46 PM
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PPS: Please remember to film the whole thing and take pictures!!!
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Feb 24 2011, 12:33 AM
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411 posts Joined: Apr 2008 From: Bahau,N9 
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Feb 23 2011, 02:31 PM) What mean by 'loose'? I found it very 'tight'. yup same here, kinda of "tight",hehe, update about the sound,its not from inside the car, its the air cond sound, when on aircond, tak! and then tretetetetatete for a while and then gone edy,but some time the sound come again when driving and then magic gone  the sound some time feel very annoying |
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Feb 24 2011, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(sa10 @ Feb 24 2011, 08:42 AM) it's time to have new thread Not yet la, 2300+ posts only, must reach 2.5k first. |
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Feb 24 2011, 09:17 AM
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707 posts Joined: Jan 2007 From: Island of Borneo
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QUOTE(sa10 @ Feb 24 2011, 08:42 AM) it's time to have new thread sabar la encik... hehehehe...btw cant wait for next week, blm camproturbo... wahahahha |
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Feb 24 2011, 09:20 AM
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0 posts Joined: Jan 2011
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pros out there pls help.
there's some shaking noise coming out from my dashboard. do you all know how to take it out in order to stuff some sponge to prevent it from making noise. by the way i've stuff some rags into the steering space to stop the noise of it and it works, does this act harms the steering function? the horn still work. Added on February 24, 2011, 9:23 amand by the way i change my steel rim to 14" spoon rim (not ori), and it rocks man. the car is totally in control and handling is awesome..... really enjoy it man. but my driver door is too loose, always open finish whenever i open it, sigh. i've told the sc at first service and they answer me its like tht de la....... the other three doors are diff from this driver door, tight. how har? This post has been edited by khiat999: Feb 24 2011, 09:23 AM |
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Feb 24 2011, 10:17 AM
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2,250 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Penang / Bentong, Pahang / Genting
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I always thought Saga is lighter than the wira, so the smaller engine will be ok since the weight is lesser. Looks like im wrong.
Is ATF cooler needed for the saga auto? |
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Feb 24 2011, 11:26 AM
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Anyone here use semi-syn 5w-30 or 10w-30 engine oil for our BLM? If yes, please comment if it ok or not for our campro IAFM engine. Campro CPS factory recommendation is 5w-30 or 10w-30 for Exora.
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Feb 24 2011, 11:30 AM
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1 posts Joined: Oct 2010 From: Penang
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Feb 22 2011, 05:10 PM) VS help a little, because during compressor on, there are some voltage dip, VS can help to minimised the voltage dip, but the loss is mainly due to mechanical rather than electrical, so you might not be able to notice the improvement. I knew an electrical engineer's comments would be useful. Guess you're right about the torque converter vs clutch. Thanks man So far noticed on Myvi, Camry, Altis. City light will dim when compressor kickin, i would say almost all cars. But this is normal, in real world, sudden current suck will cause the voltage to drop, thats why we have Vdroop in PC CPU, and compensator to auto compensate the voltage drop. Unfortunate our cheap BLM didn't come with this equipment. I drove Myvi manual before, jerk like hell in low gear as well, which is same as BLM. But not for BLM auto and Myvi auto. My guess is the torque converter 'absorb' the sudden kick from the compressor, thats why the jerking feel is minimized, but it also fulfill the theory that torque converter is less efficient in torque transferring compare to manual clutch, isn't it?  QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Feb 22 2011, 07:06 PM) meaning? It's a Proton. The cheapest one some more. And you're looking at a second-hand one. So do expect a little bit of rattling here and there  QUOTE(Reign @ Feb 23 2011, 09:37 AM) Which one is better? Manual or Auto for Saga 1.3? Manual anytime  QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Feb 23 2011, 01:30 PM) tried a manual BLM just now Yes the shift action is not the best. I couldn't believe the difference between that and my friend's LMST. But since it's my first manual car, I'm okay with it the gear shifting, is soooo vague  ==================================== Speaking of power to weight ratio, yes it's surprising that our BLM is heavier than the Wira (better, stronger chassis as pointed out by Xshiro), but could someone comment on Campro 1.3 IAFM vs 4G15P, since I think the vast majority of Wiras on the road are 1.5? This post has been edited by lhwj: Feb 24 2011, 11:39 AM |
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Feb 24 2011, 12:40 PM
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3,580 posts Joined: Oct 2007 From: everywhere in sabah
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my absorber i think kong already...it became so hard already...didn't absorb any of the shock already
anyone here can recommend me any absorber that is good but affordable? no need those adjustable one...lol |
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Feb 24 2011, 12:53 PM
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3,112 posts Joined: Jul 2006
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QUOTE(khiat999 @ Feb 24 2011, 09:20 AM) pros out there pls help. Dashboard area no solution yet, no one dare to open it, its complicated and not as easy as the steering cover.there's some shaking noise coming out from my dashboard. do you all know how to take it out in order to stuff some sponge to prevent it from making noise. by the way i've stuff some rags into the steering space to stop the noise of it and it works, does this act harms the steering function? the horn still work. Added on February 24, 2011, 9:23 amand by the way i change my steel rim to 14" spoon rim (not ori), and it rocks man. the car is totally in control and handling is awesome..... really enjoy it man. but my driver door is too loose, always open finish whenever i open it, sigh. i've told the sc at first service and they answer me its like tht de la....... the other three doors are diff from this driver door, tight. how har? |
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Feb 24 2011, 01:01 PM
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1 posts Joined: Oct 2010 From: Penang
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Feb 22 2011, 05:47 PM) Our compressor is Sanden SD7H15, top of SD7 family, piston type, well known damn cold aircon, even better than famous Nippon Denso, you can go to search their main website. But the draw back is it need higher torque from the engine to drive it. Oh my gosh.QUOTE The Enhanced SD7 is a higher performance version of Sanden's popular SD7H15 compressor. We made design improvements to the SD7H15 that provide higher refrigerant gas flow, decreased gas re-expansion, and improved efficiency. The Enhanced SD7 has the same outer dimensions as the standard SD7H15, but is capable of 15% - 20% cooling capacity based on independent testing. The Enhanced SD7 is ideal for applications that traditionally use 170cc - 210cc A/C compressors. Typical applications include: large AG or construction vehicles, transport buses, school buses, ambulances, fire trucks, motor homes, and specialty military vehicles. http://www.sanden.com/index.php?tag=SD7E Never knew our compressor is so badass  (okay okay, I know this is the Enhanced model, but still...) This post has been edited by lhwj: Feb 24 2011, 01:03 PM |
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Feb 24 2011, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Feb 24 2011, 11:30 AM) Yes the shift action is not the best. I couldn't believe the difference between that and my friend's LMST. But since it's my first manual car, I'm okay with it I feel that the LMST's one seems better |
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