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orang90
post Oct 14 2010, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 14 2010, 12:04 PM)
Protein powder and other supplements are just that, supplements!
Supplements aren't, and shouldn't, be looked upon as magic pills or powders that will transform you overnight. For me, they are an easier way of getting nutrients you aren't getting through proper food. They're there to plug the gaps in your diet, not to form the main core of your diet.

Do you need protein powders?
It depends. If you want to build muscle, are you working out? If yes, good. But working out doesn't build muscle, it fatigues it and causes small tears in your muscles which your body rebuilds and the muscle becomes a little bigger. But what does your body use to repair the muscle? Protein! So, if you don't take enough protein in your diet, you can work out all you want and not grow much.

So, are you taking enough protein in you diet? Asian diet is notoriously carb heavy and protein deficient. Fish, meat and even some vegetables have protein. So you do the math and think, okay, I need x amount of protein a day. But all meals considered, I can't reach that figure! I don't want to start eating fish during my tea break in the office. So now you have a gap in your diet.

This is when you plug the gap with supplements. It's tea time and I whip out my protein shake because instead of scarfing down currypuffs, I now get much need protein as a healthier alternative.

See how I did not give you a yes or no, but gave you an overview of the process. Remember to always ask why, once you understand the process the task of making an informed decision becoems much easier. And tread carefully, there aren't many fields which have as much BS as health and fitness. Marketing is partly to blame. Some of it may be well meaning BS, but is BS all the same.
My advice to you as you are just getting started would be to lay off the supplements for now. Even the fat burner. You're just starting to get fit and probably don't need it. Give yourself two months.

After two months, if you do your homework, you're probably in a better position to tell yourself what you need.
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QUOTE(vinesh22 @ Oct 14 2010, 01:50 PM)
Dude seriously, stay off those freaking fat burners man, I'm not saying they dont work, but at the same time, I cannot tahan when people try to "pill" themselves to good health. Look at the long run mate, u start taking lipo6 now. Lets say, after a few weeks of using, u see some weight loss, ok fine, you're happy. Then u start reading that fat burners are recommended to be taken in cycles, which means, u take it for a few weeks straight, then lay off them for a few more. Now, your body was so bloody dependent on those pills that it now cannot burn its own fat as effectively. U see, when u think of taking something, look at it in the long run. Sure, supplement companies might come up with wonder pills to help u loose weight NOW, but at what cause in the future?
As for protein shakes, yes, if u are working out hard, and u need that extra bit of protein for muscle recovery and solid mass building, by all means, go for it. If not, all you're gonna be doing is paying for expensive pee, because that is where the excessive unabsorbed protein will go..
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thanks for advice guys..
help me alot on this..
next week im gonna start going to gym 5 - 6 times a week..
im gonna get really serius on my diet..
u guys really support me!!
i love u guys!!

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post Oct 14 2010, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(blablablablabla @ Oct 14 2010, 05:42 PM)

Added on October 14, 2010, 5:44 pm
its a bit hard o get a pure soy protein to drink, trust me on this!

i been looking for organic purely protein back to ages ago

hmm if u want a economic one,

u can try the cosway protein powder costed ard 10rm.

orelse u can go for milelea protein ard 15rm.

but i feel the milelea got suger added tats y i quit it
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Protein is protein, I don't see why you would want to stick with soy (I avoid because I read in medical papers somewhere it lowered T-levels in the long run) unless you are vegetarian.


Added on October 14, 2010, 6:05 pm
QUOTE(orang90 @ Oct 14 2010, 06:02 PM)
thanks for advice guys..
help me alot on this..
next week im gonna start going to gym 5 - 6 times a week..
im gonna get really serius on my diet..
u guys really support me!!
i love u guys!!
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Best of luck in changing your life.
Just keep in mind the hardest part is sticking to your plan for the first few weeks. After that, everything is second nature.

This post has been edited by statikinetic: Oct 14 2010, 06:05 PM
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post Oct 14 2010, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 14 2010, 06:02 PM)
Protein is protein, I don't see why you would want to stick with soy (I avoid because I read in medical papers somewhere it lowered T-levels in the long run) unless you are vegetarian.


Added on October 14, 2010, 6:05 pm

Best of luck in changing your life.
Just keep in mind the hardest part is sticking to your plan for the first few weeks. After that, everything is second nature.
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can share ur experiance before bro??
are you just like me?

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post Oct 14 2010, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(blablablablabla @ Oct 14 2010, 05:42 PM)
i done yoga before... when i was in high schl

hmm u can see de result thou but u need to stick to wat u do everyday~

n i felt it kinda stressful as i was aiming for a speed lose weight that time

no harm for a try  thumbup.gif


Added on October 14, 2010, 5:44 pm
its a bit hard o get a pure soy protein to drink, trust me on this!

i been looking for organic purely protein back to ages ago

hmm if u want a economic one,

u can try the cosway protein powder costed ard 10rm.

orelse u can go for milelea protein ard 15rm.

but i feel the milelea got suger added tats y i quit it
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How about GNC - whey protein?

This post has been edited by Jean72: Oct 14 2010, 06:30 PM
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post Oct 14 2010, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jean72 @ Oct 14 2010, 06:30 PM)
How about GNC - whey protein?
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I've tried quite a few brands, and the best bang for buck for me is Optimum Nutrition whey protein.


Added on October 14, 2010, 6:47 pm
QUOTE(orang90 @ Oct 14 2010, 06:07 PM)
can share ur experiance before bro??
are you just like me?
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Of course. Nobody was born fit.
Once upon a time, I was just like you. smile.gif


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post Oct 14 2010, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 14 2010, 06:32 PM)
I've tried quite a few brands, and the best bang for buck for me is Optimum Nutrition whey protein.


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Of course. Nobody was born fit.
Once upon a time, I was just like you. smile.gif
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wats de differences btw soy n protein???

they said protein makes ppl fatter too ohmy.gif
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post Oct 14 2010, 08:43 PM

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don't take fat burner.. try to learn simple thing first..
calories in must lower than calories out, see how it goes..

ur body will adapt about something too fast..
unless u can't loss more, so start ur fat burner.. but don't take it always..

choose to eat healthy

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post Oct 14 2010, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(blablablablabla @ Oct 14 2010, 05:42 PM)
its a bit hard o get a pure soy protein to drink, trust me on this!

i been looking for organic purely protein back to ages ago

hmm if u want a economic one,

u can try the cosway protein powder costed ard 10rm.

orelse u can go for milelea protein ard 15rm.

but i feel the milelea got suger added tats y i quit it
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Ok 2 things I gotta say,
Firstly, soy protein is not that great, and was never that great to begin with. I'm not saying its not good, just that IMHO Whey Protein does so much more of a better job, much quicker.
http://build-muscle-gain-weight.com/the-be...gg-or-whey.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/protein-ty...est-for-you.htm
http://www.build-muscle-and-burn-fat.com/s...ey-protein.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson71.htm
From the last article, u can see that soy does have its benefits, but u can go around other health forums and 8/10 people would recommend whey protein as a better choice.
Secondly, this is where some people don't get it. U see, many people think all protein powders are the same, and therefore fall for marketing gimmicks from smaller companies such as Cosway or Milelea(not that I have anything against them, its just my humble opinion). Let me ask u this, if there's someone selling something for RM100 and another guy selling a SIMILAR product for RM10 which one would u go for? Obviously the cheaper one sounds like a better deal right? But have u ever asked yourself why the guy who sells it for RM100 is not budging his prices eventhough his product sounds similar to the RM10 version? Well, its because the amount of research and study that has gone into making it is wayyyyy more than what the cheaper brands could afford to begin with. In other words, if u could buy a Perdana and a Vios, which would u go for if you're thinking about owning it for the long run?
My point is, just because something is cheaper and promises results, it doesn't mean it will always work.
Some of the guys who I know who are serious about the protein they drink go for only a handful of brands, Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey Gold Standard, and Muscletech's Nitrotech Hardcore Pro-Series(my personal favourite).
Most of the bigger brands are just separated by prices but the content are almost SIMILAR, its just that some have a litle bit more research and stuff so they're more famous.

Hope that helps, I'm not trying to debunk anyone or step in any shoes, just sharing what I know. Would be cool if anyone would wanna correct me if anything I've shared here is wrong. I'm still learning new things all the time, and the knowledge I've gained SO FAR has already brought me a long way, so new input wouldn't do any harm icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on October 14, 2010, 9:30 pm
QUOTE(Jean72 @ Oct 14 2010, 06:30 PM)
How about GNC - whey protein?
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Big waste of money yo!! Save a bit more money and add on to get better brands. Although, I don't think u should be taking any right now Jean wink.gif


Added on October 14, 2010, 9:33 pm
QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 14 2010, 06:32 PM)
I've tried quite a few brands, and the best bang for buck for me is Optimum Nutrition whey protein.
HAHAHA, I used to curi-curi my friend's ON a few months back. Then I started Nitrotech HPS, never looked back since!!

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QUOTE(blablablablabla @ Oct 14 2010, 07:22 PM)
wats de differences btw soy n protein???

they said protein makes ppl fatter too  ohmy.gif
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Soy is a legume. Vegetable.
Protein is a nutrient.

They are 2 different things. Protein can be sourced from multiple sources, soy being one of them so you get soy protein.

Ah, who are 'they' in the sentence 'they said protein makes ppl fatter'? This is how most myths start, by making statements attributed to no one in particular. Protein can make you fatter. Carbs can make you fatter. Fats can make you fatter. Let's generalize a bit and say food can make you fatter (That's what carbs, protein and fats are, food). Can food make you fat? Definitely. So where does this leave us?

What makes people fatter isn't food. Food is a necessity. What makes people fat is lack of exercise and generally sitting on their bums all day. Fact.


vinesh22 has got a point on the different composition of protein powders, I eyeball the nutritional label on each product. You all should too. Even down to peanut butter, I make healthier choices by reading the labels. Just by switching peanut butter brands, I cut out 100 calories without any effort. Food is your tool, not your enemy. Make it work for you.
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post Oct 14 2010, 10:11 PM

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dear forumers..
can somone please comment on my revised diet plan?
any improvements that can be made??

i am currently weigh in at 106kg..
and i want to lose for about 40kgs

Morning
* Roti Canai with a glass of hot tea (less sugar)

Lunch
* Nasi Putih(small portion)+Chicken From Any Cooking(but i'll surely tear off the skin and oil)+a lot of vegetables

Tea Time
* Nesvita 3 in 1 Mixed togther with 5 table spoon of oat
* 10 cuttings of guava mixed with asam boi

Dinner(After Workout)
* Iced Milo+Tandoori Chicken (Breast Area Oni)

Supplement?
Lipo 6 black, 3 caps in the morning,3 caps before lunch
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cut off roti canai, change it to others... egg sure will be good.
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QUOTE(syndicate @ Oct 14 2010, 10:11 PM)

i am currently weigh in at 106kg..
and i want to lose for about 40kgs

Morning
* Roti Canai with a glass of hot tea (less sugar)

Dinner(After Workout)
* Iced Milo+Tandoori Chicken (Breast Area Oni)

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Dropping 40% of your body weight is a little drastic isn't it? I would say set achievable goals first. Why not aim for 90kg as your target and go from there once you hit it?

The obvious is your roti canai breakfast. That'll have to go. I suggest to change it to a healthier alternative.
You can cut down the portions on your breakfast and lunch, then slot in something to eat in between breakfast and lunch. This will help stoke your metabolism and ensure you're not too hungry during lunch and munch excessive food. You now have a 5 meal a day plan, which is good. Get that metabolism going.

The Tandoori chicken might be fine, but why not replace that iced milo with water? Simple change. 100 grams of milo is 400 calories, excluding any condense milk they put in.

Not sure about the intensity of your workout but I think you got that covered.
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post Oct 14 2010, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 14 2010, 10:22 PM)
Dropping 40% of your body weight is a little drastic isn't it? I would say set achievable goals first. Why not aim for 90kg as your target and go from there once you hit it?

The obvious is your roti canai breakfast. That'll have to go. I suggest to change it to a healthier alternative.
You can cut down the portions on your breakfast and lunch, then slot in something to eat in between breakfast and lunch. This will help stoke your metabolism and ensure you're not too hungry during lunch and munch excessive food. You now have a 5 meal a day plan, which is good. Get that metabolism going.

The Tandoori chicken might be fine, but why not replace that iced milo with water? Simple change. 100 grams of milo is 400 calories, excluding any condense milk they put in.

Not sure about the intensity of your workout but I think you got that covered.
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Yup, agreed, and if I may add a bit to the list, try changing your fruits once in a while. U can do without the asam boi with fruits such as papaya and apples which are naturally sweet. The canai could be replaced with chapatti, I know it tastes dull by itself, but try dip a LITTLE curry just for taste and you'll be fine. Go for some telur mata too, cheap and good if u don't fancy half boiled eggs. icon_rolleyes.gif
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[quote=vinesh22,Oct 14 2010, 09:28 PM]

Big waste of money yo!! Save a bit more money and add on to get better brands. Although, I don't think u should be taking any right now Jean wink.gif

[quote=vinesh22,Oct 14 2010, 09:28 PM]


haha, nope, I am not taking. My husband is though. Instead of herbalife whey protein, he is taking GNC whey protein instead. No good?

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post Oct 15 2010, 12:16 AM

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[quote=Jean72,Oct 14 2010, 11:07 PM]
[quote=vinesh22,Oct 14 2010, 09:28 PM]

Big waste of money yo!! Save a bit more money and add on to get better brands. Although, I don't think u should be taking any right now Jean wink.gif

[quote=vinesh22,Oct 14 2010, 09:28 PM]
haha, nope, I am not taking. My husband is though. Instead of herbalife whey protein, he is taking GNC whey protein instead. No good?
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Ah, I see. Uhm, honest opinion, GNC is overpriced.
Go for Nitrotech or Optimum Nutirtion, once he tries it, you'll see what all the fuss statikinetic and I were talking about. There are a few resellers here on LYN who u can get em from for MUCH MUCH cheaper prices compared to GNC, EVEN if you're a member there!!
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roti canai. y must put that deadly food -.-
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post Oct 15 2010, 08:38 AM

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replace roti canai to chapati
milo to milk
remove asam boi

guava is good, but varied it with banana, apple and other fruit

iced milo replace with fruit juice/plain water

u need to drink a lot of waters.
other than that, seem ok.
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post Oct 15 2010, 10:24 AM

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Roti canai is made of flour. Correct me if I'm wrong but if you're serious on losing weight, you should avoid foods made of flour. Other than that, you should consume something during lunch time. You just can't skip meals. And take plenty of fibers such as vegetables and fruits.
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sifu2..
last night when im in gym..
coach there said to me that i need caffeine..
drink coffee every morning..
to loss my tummy fat..
so when i google it up..
it say caffeine will incease wieght, not loss weight..
im confuse??
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QUOTE(night @ Oct 15 2010, 10:24 AM)
Roti canai is made of flour. Correct me if I'm wrong but if you're serious on losing weight, you should avoid foods made of flour. Other than that, you should consume something during lunch time. You just can't skip meals. And take plenty of fibers such as vegetables and fruits.
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Bread is made out of flour too. But it doesn't share the same bad rep as roti canai.
It's the oil. Do you see how much oil goes into it? Lots of oil when they bang that block of flour into pancakes, and more oil when they cook it.


Added on October 15, 2010, 10:35 am
QUOTE(orang90 @ Oct 15 2010, 10:30 AM)
sifu2..
last night when im in gym..
coach there said to me that i need caffeine..
drink coffee every morning..
to loss my tummy fat..
so when i google it up..
it say caffeine will incease wieght, not loss weight..
im confuse??
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Remember the adage 'Always ask why?' and ask your coach to explain it to you.
There are articles that state caffeine as a stimulant, hence it increases your metabolic rate which in turns helps you burn more calories for weight loss. If his explanation matches this, I would suggest you try green tea instead. There is research done that it stimulates your metabolism longer than caffeine yet without the side effects.

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