i hate mass marine!!
The Zerg Strategy v1.0, Cheer for the overmind!
The Zerg Strategy v1.0, Cheer for the overmind!
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Nov 19 2010, 10:59 PM
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i hate mass marine!!
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Nov 19 2010, 11:19 PM
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Nov 19 2010, 11:26 PM
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i seem to macro more than producing armies |
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Nov 20 2010, 01:45 AM
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Kinda hard to spend all your minerals when going mutaling build... usually too starved of gas.
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Nov 20 2010, 02:55 AM
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QUOTE(xcen @ Nov 20 2010, 01:45 AM) make more hatch and spam lings =pattack at 200/200, sac ur army and rebuild wit speedlings + roaches... Added on November 21, 2010, 3:42 pmseemed the solution to a thor drop on LT is to go 1 base muta and then expand like wut kyrix did This post has been edited by evofantasy: Nov 21 2010, 03:42 PM |
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Nov 22 2010, 06:24 AM
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Nowadays if play vT or vP, tier 3 for Z is like almost obsolete..
T and P will always do early aggression and there's like no time to tech up especially to Brood Lord or Ultralisk. I mean, upgrading to those things needs alot of resources and time. I think Blizzard should do something with that. While T and P can easily tech to Thor and colossus, we Zerg usually stuck with mass tier 1 and 2 units.. sigh.. kinda suck. |
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Nov 22 2010, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE(xcen @ Nov 20 2010, 01:45 AM) 4 Extractors is needed to pump a steady number of mutasQUOTE(hazairi @ Nov 22 2010, 06:24 AM) Nowadays if play vT or vP, tier 3 for Z is like almost obsolete.. Infestor says hiT and P will always do early aggression and there's like no time to tech up especially to Brood Lord or Ultralisk. I mean, upgrading to those things needs alot of resources and time. I think Blizzard should do something with that. While T and P can easily tech to Thor and colossus, we Zerg usually stuck with mass tier 1 and 2 units.. sigh.. kinda suck. Neutral Parasite - ing like a boss |
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Nov 22 2010, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Nov 22 2010, 08:00 AM) 4 Extractors is needed to pump a steady number of mutas yeah, like i said, using Zerg in competitive match must use only tier 1 and tier 2 units..Infestor says hi Neutral Parasite - ing like a boss tier 3? It's like no purpose having tier 3 when it's so hard to tech up to that level.. |
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Nov 22 2010, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Nov 22 2010, 08:27 AM) yeah, like i said, using Zerg in competitive match must use only tier 1 and tier 2 units.. i dun think so...tier 3? It's like no purpose having tier 3 when it's so hard to tech up to that level.. i've seen lots of games which is won by ultras/ BL... the reason why zerg dun use t3 is cause 300/300 t1-t2 are really good... muta+ling+blings -> roach+ling reinforce (with speed for all) is very very effective vs terran... vs toss, mass mutas usually can win u the game alone and when it cant, u get ultra/ BL (tech switch transition between those 2) |
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Nov 22 2010, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 22 2010, 10:16 AM) i dun think so... yeah, t1 and t2 are quite strong for zerg, but the problem is T and P can tech up to t3 faster than Z.i've seen lots of games which is won by ultras/ BL... the reason why zerg dun use t3 is cause 300/300 t1-t2 are really good... muta+ling+blings -> roach+ling reinforce (with speed for all) is very very effective vs terran... vs toss, mass mutas usually can win u the game alone and when it cant, u get ultra/ BL (tech switch transition between those 2) I mean, what's the point Blizzard creating t3 for Z if they are almost un-usable. yes, u r right, there are who win games with t3 Z, but that is very2 low and unlikely if u compare with P and T. Many games u can see P and T using tier 3 especially Colossus and thor.. |
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Nov 22 2010, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Nov 22 2010, 10:23 AM) yeah, t1 and t2 are quite strong for zerg, but the problem is T and P can tech up to t3 faster than Z. honestly i prefer to be able to win with t1 and t2 units as compared to terran rushing to thor to beat muta, and toss rushing to colossus just to beat bio balls...I mean, what's the point Blizzard creating t3 for Z if they are almost un-usable. yes, u r right, there are who win games with t3 Z, but that is very2 low and unlikely if u compare with P and T. Many games u can see P and T using tier 3 especially Colossus and thor.. sure u can tech, but u are so vulnerable and if taht dun turned out u die... and how often do we see BCs? carriers? dustin browder did said, t3 units are good but it doesnt mean u need to get them every game and doesnt mean taht we need to make them easier to get just to see them be played more... |
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Nov 22 2010, 01:22 PM
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If zerg can tech up to t3 easily it will be the end
Factor in that zerg could mass produce t3 unit in one go suddenly 6 corrupters morped into bls just outside enemies mineral line and wreck havoc while safely staying out of range from turrets/thors/marines/stalkers and being guarded by mutas Massed Ultras are no joke either And heres another point Other races need to tech up to t3 in order to at least have a fighting chance against zergs t1 and t2 units. Isint it good enough? |
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Nov 22 2010, 08:35 PM
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I'm glad that Zerg thread is growing rapidly. Lets swarm other races.
IMHO, most of the time Zerg doesn't need higher tier units to win if played correctly. T1/T2 swarms could end most of the games already. Keep replenishing 200/200 T2 army is scary enough |
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Nov 22 2010, 09:03 PM
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hey moon is back!
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Nov 29 2010, 02:29 AM
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erm okay... what's the counter against mass void ray? = ='
early muta? or mass hydra? |
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Nov 29 2010, 10:31 AM
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Nov 29 2010, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(rontol @ Nov 29 2010, 02:29 AM) if opponent is rushing void ray...get queen when lair is building...around 3 at least... when lair done, get hydras... Added on November 29, 2010, 12:39 pm QUOTE(Moonflown @ Nov 22 2010, 08:35 PM) I'm glad that Zerg thread is growing rapidly. Lets swarm other races. we are already leading the pack IMHO, most of the time Zerg doesn't need higher tier units to win if played correctly. T1/T2 swarms could end most of the games already. Keep replenishing 200/200 T2 army is scary enough This post has been edited by aLertz: Nov 29 2010, 12:39 PM |
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Nov 29 2010, 08:09 PM
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hurm queen dmg is quite low aite? or it just me?
well finally i managed to win this particular fast zealot + fast ray combo in ladder... the guy won me 1st match... somehow my destiny called...2nd straight match i meet him it was rly intense.. i aimed fast hydra.. but his fast zealot made my econ like Lehman Brothers d... i survived by the edge of death.. zzz (the guy 1 base in metalopolis... i got 3 bt 2 of them keep die n rebuild...) the guy said gg 2 minutes before i hantam him out of the galaxy haha |
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Nov 29 2010, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(rontol @ Nov 29 2010, 08:09 PM) hurm queen dmg is quite low aite? or it just me? luckily he didn't go colossus (hard considering he only 1 base the whole time), if not it will be him hantam u lolwell finally i managed to win this particular fast zealot + fast ray combo in ladder... the guy won me 1st match... somehow my destiny called...2nd straight match i meet him it was rly intense.. i aimed fast hydra.. but his fast zealot made my econ like Lehman Brothers d... i survived by the edge of death.. zzz (the guy 1 base in metalopolis... i got 3 bt 2 of them keep die n rebuild...) the guy said gg 2 minutes before i hantam him out of the galaxy haha |
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Nov 29 2010, 08:22 PM
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ya... the guy didnt even hav stalker u know... his armies all zealot n void ray..
it was scrappy match to be honest... he could killed me fast if he add some stalker in mid game.. his zealot rush killed my queen, all zergling n injure some drones = =' u imagine la zzz... |
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