erm okay... what's the counter against mass void ray? = ='
early muta?
or mass hydra?
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Nov 29 2010, 02:29 AM
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erm okay... what's the counter against mass void ray? = ='
early muta? or mass hydra? |
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Nov 29 2010, 08:09 PM
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hurm queen dmg is quite low aite? or it just me?
well finally i managed to win this particular fast zealot + fast ray combo in ladder... the guy won me 1st match... somehow my destiny called...2nd straight match i meet him it was rly intense.. i aimed fast hydra.. but his fast zealot made my econ like Lehman Brothers d... i survived by the edge of death.. zzz (the guy 1 base in metalopolis... i got 3 bt 2 of them keep die n rebuild...) the guy said gg 2 minutes before i hantam him out of the galaxy haha |
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Nov 29 2010, 08:22 PM
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ya... the guy didnt even hav stalker u know... his armies all zealot n void ray..
it was scrappy match to be honest... he could killed me fast if he add some stalker in mid game.. his zealot rush killed my queen, all zergling n injure some drones = =' u imagine la zzz... |
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Nov 29 2010, 08:30 PM
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ya... haha sc2 make my adrenaline rushing lolx
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Nov 29 2010, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Nov 29 2010, 11:18 PM) haha no comment... maybe u need to relax a bit while playing i got another straight 2 ladder matches with a guy.... he random race... he play tier 3 armies - -' 1st game he tapau me.. he toss... n my muta spwned kinda late to do econ dmg,... he turtle 1 base till out carrierr.. my army not mass enough to counter carrier.. only a bunch of muta n hydra... fast gg zzz 2nd game.. he terran... yet another turtle.. garghh.. this time i went mass hydra again... i maxed at 200 supply with 5 bases ( 4 functioning).. he turtle 1 base with island expansion = =' the penultimae battle: he went for my base with the infamous BC (6-8 units i think)... i defended with all of my hydras kaput... most of his BC out too... i go straight to his base to counter with a bit lings,roaches,hydras n few mutas... gg haha |
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Nov 29 2010, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Nov 29 2010, 11:51 PM) you should try ultra--hydra combo to bust the defense he got (hydra for the damage, and ultra for the tanking) ya.. i think the 2nd game is about 25-30mins +/-... 1st game around 15-20mins...how long is your games actually? 30mins? so far the only t3 unit i ever made was brood lord.. well maybe next time if the game drag i'll go for ultralisk |
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Nov 30 2010, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Nov 30 2010, 12:01 AM) well i always try to end the game before 20 mins (cuz my macro sucks big time lol) yeah jz checked some of my replays... APM damn low... what is the average APM needed to win ladder game? for terran its easy to play against one base opponent since terran got tanks, and i'll just sit in front of his base, siege up my tanks, position marines for possible tank bust; use my flying units to spot the high ground, and take down his defense one by one one more possibilities you can use: nydus worms me in bronze lolx |
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Nov 30 2010, 01:21 AM
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woa... serious? 30ish? that low? lolx...
btw... can u guys share the basic zerg key-bindings? so far me only bind hatchs and queens.... i know it's pretty bad.. i need to learn how to do flanking = =' |
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Nov 30 2010, 11:44 PM
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err i think heard idra saying that last nite... the gateway unit kinda sucks versus hydra
but i bet u'll need a bit carapse n dmg upgrade |
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Dec 1 2010, 12:12 AM) in 1 of Day9daily, he say artosis said hydras off creep can disappear in terms of seconds. they are like sieged up tanks....no mobility but insane dmg...creep spread is essential for hydra play. lolx.... be one of us now!! i wish im a zerg player. really. btw this is the video that i saw yesterday... idra with hydra + spine crawler + creep tumor vs huk's gateway units http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckP4zRMIdrQ |
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Dec 1 2010, 01:05 AM) you couldnt blame me.....after losing 2 str8 ladder against diamond zerg at blistering sand....the map control is just insane!!!! i really tried everything in my textbook (did everything other than BC and ghost) but i think map is really a factor... lol2.. no comment... am no diamond level yet... hw's the zerg player over there? did they cheese a lot or pretty much standard build but with better micro? |
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QUOTE(keretapir @ Dec 2 2010, 11:09 AM) well,that's the fun of it....the 1st 4mins would determine them having walled off their exits with either haha yeah even those pros are hating this 6 pooler one guy in last Dreamhack Winter... 1.need 200 minerals to block ramp with depots with min. time of ~60sec, or 2.need 250 minerals to block ramp with 1 depot,1 rax with min. time of ~90sec (praise the new patch for requiring depot b4 rax) not to mention the required SCVs to gather minerals & building them as opposed to 6-pooling,where 1.need 200 minerals to build pool, min. time of ~30sec estimated with the initial 50 minerals at start of game 2.~25sec to morph in 6 lings for 150 minerals 3.storming their base with those lings as soon as morphing complete well,it's a hit or miss thing nowadays.it all requires perfect timing+small map+big ramp to cover (such as scrap station) http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/news/...-to-best-of-one |
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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Dec 2 2010, 07:08 PM) guys, what's the best method for zerg to counter mass terran rines? Roach is the hard counter for marines i tried using banelings and gettin burrow *to ambush* but then not enough time, mass zerglings is useless too x_X get the speed, spread the creeps and get some dmg n carapse upgrade might be helpfull and yeah the best is maybe mass roach or mixed balls of roach + flanked banelings (i cakap like pro... but me no pro... these all from what i understand la... haha) |
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Dec 3 2010, 01:22 AM) QUOTE(keretapir @ Dec 3 2010, 01:27 AM) for some reasons unknown,my maxis prepaid bb wont go live... ya dlct87 bro am streaming recorded game btw nestea vs makaprime now lol2... so slow so no gaming for me tonite... all night the captive-portal site isn't accessible at all http://www.hotlink.com.my lol bro tapir... maxis line gg u? This post has been edited by rontol: Dec 3 2010, 01:36 AM |
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QUOTE(keretapir @ Dec 3 2010, 01:45 AM) ya...damn maxis....i think i can go hulk towards them with this latest fiasco... haha mutas... damn la terran always put bulk of turret on their base zzzbtw,yeah...i bought the prepaid one...so,i can fight for a month since this afternoon.... zergies & mutas!!! next time i might one to try banelings drop rush + muta balls lol2 |
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QUOTE(keretapir @ Dec 3 2010, 02:25 AM) just ball those turrets la...i did that,& it work wonders,especially when those turrets placed near other units/buildings.extra dmg for me dunno.. not worth it in my case.. the guy build tons of it directly after my 1st group of mutas.. (normally around 4-5 mutas) when i sent my reinforcement not only i meets the turrets but also the mass marines (the guy panicked...) |
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