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 The Zerg Strategy v1.0, Cheer for the overmind!

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post Aug 4 2010, 11:25 AM

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I really like the new Zerg. Banelling is demm useful and the new Queen means we don't need to rush into early hatchery.. cool!
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post Aug 10 2010, 06:09 PM

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Baneling bust is so useful when ur playing in bronze or silver league. Can finish the game in 6 mins. When u get promoted to gold or platinum league, the baneling rush tactic is almost obsolete.. tongue.gif
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post Aug 10 2010, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Aug 10 2010, 09:34 PM)
I only use overseer to scout/contaminate. Corrupted is one of my favorite unit since a good corruptor/broodlord army is nearly unbeatable unless they mass vikings/pheonix.
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..and mass thors and Battlecruisers..
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post Aug 10 2010, 09:56 PM

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Any good and efficient strategies to do an early corrupter + broodlord rush? wink.gif
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post Aug 11 2010, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 11 2010, 12:33 AM)
lol i lansi'd last zerg game
200 food mass hydra with 2-3k minerals 2k+ gas 3 base 3 queens

replay saved
LOL
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Ur playing US server, surely la easy.. tongue.gif
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post Aug 11 2010, 10:16 AM

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ooh, didn't know US players are that good.. tongue.gif
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post Aug 12 2010, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(LoNeLy-Zhai @ Aug 12 2010, 01:19 AM)
So you guys are saying that SEA plat are like US gold?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 12 2010, 01:35 AM)
- considering the amount of sc players in us vs SEA
- considering the pro players from us vs SEA
- considering SEA players STILL LAG just about the same as US players, where by americans themselves wont be lagging at all

you tell me?
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All can be judged in another 2 months. Where we all who have SEA key can create a new profile for US servers. Let us all see then.. wink.gif
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post Aug 13 2010, 09:36 AM

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I did an experiment using the map editor..

10 VR vs 16 Muta = VR wins with balance 4
10 VR vs 17 Muta = Muta wins with balance 4

wow, just 1 extra unit can change everything!
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post Aug 13 2010, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 13 2010, 09:49 AM)
you force the battle to his ground with siege tanks/MM and maybe vikings/medivac (1/1/1 build most likely)

and for ur base reaper issue, when ur pushing out, rally ur troops to ur mineral line. and of course some to expo and you can safely expo ady


Added on August 13, 2010, 9:56 am

due to the nature of glaive bounce (glaive target too, btw)/target acquiring, a lot of thing can happen differently, advisable that you do the simulation multiple times before reaching a conclusion
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yeah, i re-runned the test again and again.. and the results were quite same..
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post Aug 15 2010, 05:46 AM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Aug 14 2010, 11:09 PM)
guardian best unit for zerg.. in sc1 i will have guardian and hydralisk as anti air.. can this tactic work in sc2?
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can maa..
sc2, guardian = broodlord
hydralisk still exist. And the good part is that u can do a corrupter as the anti air..
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post Aug 15 2010, 06:15 PM

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Broodlords are so useful when u attack far outside the cliff. Most ground unit can't reach it.
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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Aug 15 2010, 06:16 PM)
then whats the best unit in zerg? Like the ultimate unit after get then attack will win? I din get my sc2 yet so dunno much about it.. wanna learn some strats first
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definitely the classical Ultralisk!!!
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post Aug 15 2010, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Aug 15 2010, 06:46 PM)
then straight go for ultralisk and win!! like dat r?
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haha, it depends on the opponent la..
plus, usually for mass ultra and broodlord, u must control at least 2 bases.
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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Aug 15 2010, 06:55 PM)
control 2 basses only can get enuff resources?? Then the strategy is get 2 basses as fast as possible then straight ultralist built 12 and then win?

but ultralisk cant air will get pawn by air unit how?
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no need air units. Ultralisk too powerful.. by the time the air units wanna kill them, his base already gone or he surely GG early..
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post Aug 16 2010, 05:03 AM

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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Aug 15 2010, 11:23 PM)
You make Sc2 sounds so simple. You think your opponent gonna sit still and let you mass ultralisk? Most of the time they will timing push and end the game before even an ultralisk could hatch.

Zerg is a reactive race where you don't wanna have the mentality of massing what units in order to win, its about reacting and switch tech with ease to counter opponent's units' composition
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hehe, why so serious? u should read the previous posts and it was meant to be a sarcastic statement.. tongue.gif
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post Aug 16 2010, 10:45 AM

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Sometimes i use the muta+speedlings rush to destroy the walls..
quite effective actually
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post Aug 16 2010, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(aLertz @ Aug 16 2010, 11:03 AM)
think broader...there's a lot of ways such as overload drops and nydus  rolleyes.gif
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and bannels too.. which is one of my fav..
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 16 2010, 12:34 PM)
i really hate zvz as the timing of pool, defense/offense pushes can decide the game very VERY early. even if you dont die/lose on the first atk, the game is already considered done since you're too far behind econ.

that, and my weakest race is zerg, sigh.
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For ZvZ, i think have to scout very early. 6 pool rush is so much hated.

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QUOTE(aLertz @ Aug 16 2010, 02:16 PM)
play more n u will get used to it...lol
well tat's da reason y many choose protoss...followed by terran then zerg... unsure.gif
i dunno y i like zerg play style more...lol

and 1 thing good bout zerg is...easy for transition...
if wan air...js throw a spire, if wan hydra js build a hydra den...hatcheries will do all the work...
while for others such as toss, if u build too many gateways...u can't simply change to air...coz it will be wasted...
think of it as a positive point to play z  rolleyes.gif
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exactly. And the best part is that u only need to save a few keys on for the hatchery to produce units while u were attacking.
1, S, Z,Z,Z,Z
2, S, M,M,M,M

if u know what i mean.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Tctf @ Aug 16 2010, 02:28 PM)
1. S,ZZZ = zerging
2. S, TTT = mutalisk..

M is wht liao? roach?

and also, S, VVV =overlord < kill by void.
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hahah, sorry..
M is for Mutalisk on BW.
yeah, sc2 they changed it to T.. tongue.gif

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