make roach cost 100/25 seem fair... Someone send a email to Bliz!

BTW my APM finally the same with my War3 Melee APM, about 120~

it's bad enough Zerg can't block ramps. and no AA until get hydralisk / mutalisk. don't count Queen la. that one can't do much also.

I just got 7RR by a zerg yesterday, no idea how to defend even with cannon up T.T

i saw 1 guy focus mainly on economy ......once roach wave end .....he suffer alot ...but the income eventually is about the same as zerg econ ....den he finish off with canon contain + more base

mass queen are good actually...
queen are among the best AA due to their range + tranfuse...

No one trying 15 nexus build? Seen some replay, really affective against roach o.o

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=159671

i posted it 1-2 page ago...
i'm using it and its variant...
15forge -> 17nexus is a safer version of the build as well...

sangho did this build to great success in GSL2...

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Added on October 25, 2010, 2:47 pmbtw: whitera stick to the 3gate FE build vs dimaga and did very well as well... the 3gate allow him to deal lots of pressure...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Oct 25 2010, 02:47 PM

3gate FE is the korean build with hallucinate rite?

whitera did not used hallucination...
he went wit robo as well for obs instead...

after playing with Kyong(damn pro z player) i will never ever fast expo agnist zerg. My balls are not tht hard

This post has been edited by cupmee2nd: Oct 25 2010, 07:25 PM

When are balls hard in the first place?

And I've tried the 15 Nexus BO, pretty solid once you pass through the initial stages. Sudden boost of econ later on.

This post has been edited by incx: Oct 25 2010, 09:53 PM

Yea. Tried it out too but had to lose almost 8 games in a row to get it right for me.

Evo's 15 Forge to 17 Nexus FE is safer for maps that you can't wall off safely at your natural like Blistering Sands as they can just backdoor you. 15 Nexus FE works wonders on Lost Temple and Metalopolis.

I find the Phoenix really important to stop them from going mass roaches on you. I forgot to go Phoenix one round and then got pwned by mass roaches.

Each time I go that 4 phoenix, my opponent would tech to hydra to get pwned by colossi. The replays in that link was really good.

13 GATE IS THE BESTEST STRAT EVAH

He just defined the new meaning to 13 Gate 14 Gas.

such a good strats, i wonder if you could make 14 gas in a game :S

i told my fren to 9rax into supply (old patch) and he literally did that...
and he is nt trolling like cella is LOL!

7 bases in total.
Pretty crazy if you actually manage to pull that off.

Haha. That would really be an epic game when the opponent scout his base and sees that.
Did he win?

lol no he didnt...
i managed to stop him when i see he has 3 rax and 0 supply depot >.<

lol..now i know why I cant win with 13 gate, coz i misunderstood the meaning of 13 GATES

Hahahaha.
Lucky he is not trolling like cella if not I think you would feel like face palming or vomitting blood.

This post has been edited by tatyinw: Nov 1 2010, 04:25 PM