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Protoss Discussion Thread Ver. 1, [SEASON 2] Tips & Strategies.

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TSincx	Aug 2 2010, 08:47 PM, updated 15y ago Return to original view \| Post #1
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Since there's no thread yet for a particular race discussion, so I'm just creating one. Everyone who has Protoss as their favourite race can discuss about the tips and strategies here. And if you're a Protoss user, please do leave your nick and ID too. Will try to update this thread with tips and strategies too shared by everyone. This post has been edited by incx: Apr 10 2011, 07:28 AM
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TSincx	Aug 2 2010, 08:49 PM Return to original view \| Post #2
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Unit Counters for Protoss vs. Zerg. Credits to -ZeN-. For Starters: The Trusty 4 Gates. Credits to Cheesenium. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « GpvL5YYPFgc Day[9]'s 4 Gate Warp Styles. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « JZ8MX-Bjvxc Protoss vs. Zerg: Tips On Early Zergling, Baneling, Roach and Muta Rushes and Mass Hydras. Credits to JuzJoe. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « D5DCNYcqNeQ Protoss vs. Protoss: Against 4 Gates Build. Credits to JuzJoe. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 7exElEQrStA Countering Marines and Marauders Tutorial. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « LeLlzeecUsc obkO2o2GGVM Countering Proxy Barrack Reaper Bunker Rush. Credits to JuzJoe. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « uJpd9jT09Ik Void Ray Rush. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « p8WIROI6_Zo Phoenix Rush. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « or2HN7K_0Ik WXdkvm4FXn0 Sinatra vs .Jimmy - ESL Finals » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Z1ICJRvD5Yk Husky vs. HDstarcraft » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « _cVZ-iyuRqY l2vOoiEHce4 David Kim vs. NonY » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « bNmQPd2TiCM Huk vs. MorroW: Game 1 & Game 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « TDbJafFqajA 5IFNPyn_s4U BM6enx5Q-og 6e8Kj5FNB58 [ REPLAY FILES] QUOTE(Quazacolt's Files.) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Replay 1 Replay 2 Replay 3 - Fast Cannons Replay 4 Replay 5 - Stalker Spams Replay 6 - Complete seal guide by RtP\|DEV played by Quazacolt Qualifying replays: with lack of exp. in 1v1, and nervousness etc when ALL my opponents are diamonds, you can see me failing HARD and making really really noobish mistakes on the qualifying. the ONLY victories i attained was due to me copying the strategies people used ON ME. 2 wins 4 loss /QQ lol Quazacolt vs ZenDeX.SC2Replay Quazacolt vs thOneFive.SC2Replay Quazacolt vs pigsvscanfly.SC2Replay i got zealot warped by Norada i believe? copied and used the same shit on this guy. so yeah :/ Quazacolt vs Norada.SC2Replay Quazacolt vs Azz.SC2Replay Quazacolt vs Arwa.SC2Replay THIS is the colossi abuse, which i copied and adapted from after getting owned by the same colossi. on a previous match Group replays: While i sorta overcame the tournament nervousness, the match up are still, very highly, how should i say, unbalanced. a 3 extreme and apparent settings of High (Renson) Medium (DJSub) Low (Firestorm) Quazacolt vs DJsub.SC2Replay BEST DAMN GAME EVER for me during the vista lasik tourney. He reaper + bunker cheesed me, but i held off, and fought back. victory has never been so sweet, and it got sweeter after a chat with him. And to folks wanting to see me colossi sniping, this is also the game. Quazacolt vs DJsub game2.SC2Replay probably lost the mental momentum during the first match, kinda poor play, and that was it. this is also where you get to see colossi vs banshees Quazacolt vs Firestorm.SC2Replay Bronze league >_< i thought he was playing mind games after seeing his profile and even asking if this is is REAL profile Quazacolt vs Firestorm game 2.SC2Replay game one proven it that he is in fact a bronze, proxy and warp and end the game quick. i really felt sorry for him to face Renson Quazacolt vs Renson.SC2Replay attempted to fight him head on despite knowing a proxy to my base, got a little nervous, supply blocked for a few seconds, that was the end of it. schooled as if i was a bronzer Quazacolt vs Renson game 2.SC2Replay i know dead well i am not gonna win in a straight up fight, attempted to cheese, however i got way ahead of myself, 2 gassed way too early, and lacked a proper army to defend his early aggression, and i paid for it dearly. game was over before it even begun. http://www.quazacolt.com/starcraft2/replay...ssure.SC2Replay well thats the basic concept, on more in depth details, wait, what in depth, i believe i said this was a no brainer strat LOL! seriously though, its a standard 4 gate opening, although as you can see the zerg delayed my opening a bit with the gas cockblock. and the zerg's opening was pretty impressive to say the least. problem came when zerg didnt bother to upgrade while im having chargelots, +2 weapons etc. thats when he lost the battle of attrition and WASTED his opening. had he gone for roach speed, gotten maybe +1 weapons etc i would've PROBABLY lost. still against most zergs, my strat on putting heavy pressure on the expansion is always a viable move. if the zerg never expand, more often than not he will lose you to on equal 1 base plays. and even if he did get the expansion out, the idea of the pressuring is to keep him from saturating the expansion at all/further and/or with some luck, taking the expansion out. http://www.quazacolt.com/starcraft2/replay...blink.SC2Replay fun usage of overlords in team games, pylon warp ins, blinks etc. http://www.quazacolt.com/starcraft2/replay...4gate.SC2Replay no brainer pylon advancement, just stick on 1 base and pylon push it to the end rofl. QUOTE(Calvin Seak's Files.) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « P V Z Game 1 http://screplays.com/replays/scrubiee/12898 P V Z Game 2 http://screplays.com/replays/scrubiee/12902 P V Z Game 3 http://screplays.com/replays/scrubiee/12904 P V Z Game 4 http://screplays.com/replays/scrubiee/12906 P V T - Against Tanks http://screplays.com/replays/scrubiee/12900 P V T 2 - Against Tanks http://screplays.com/replays/scrubiee/12912 I hope the replay helps.. Things to note -Chrono warp asap on cyber -Chrono +1 attack so that your zealots could 2 hit kill the zerglings instead of 3 -Placement of cannons are very important when it comes to FE.. -Placement of FF can be the key victory to your battles! QUOTE(Eilrach's Files.) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Eilrach(Protoss) vs DVG(Protoss): Tried using Renson's style of proxy gateway, though i'm no where near as proficient, it did work and i manage to marginally beat a diamond player with 400 wins XD http://screplays.com/replays/eilrach/8452 Eilrach(Protoss) vs pootpoot(Zerg): Proxy stargate with zealots doing early pressure, this one was risky, had my opponent found my stargate, I would've lost. http://screplays.com/replays/eilrach/8454 This post has been edited by incx: Apr 27 2011, 03:22 PM
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TSincx	Aug 2 2010, 09:06 PM Return to original view \| Post #3
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Apparently battle.net players had been saying that void ray rushes are for bronze league players. @Quaz, so far 2 posts would be enough I guess. Will make it concise and precise. This post has been edited by incx: Aug 2 2010, 09:07 PM
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TSincx	Aug 3 2010, 07:46 AM Return to original view \| Post #4
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	I hardly use DTs nowadays, just like what you said. I only use it when I've scouted and the opponent's base. If not, it's just sending them for suicide, and building them is not cheap.
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TSincx	Aug 3 2010, 02:52 PM Return to original view \| Post #5
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	To let the opponents to reach till' BCs is pretty much later in game already. Best bet is to not let them reach that stage.
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TSincx	Aug 3 2010, 03:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #6
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Yea, very much agreed that Terran should not be left alone too long. It's just waiting for them to get enough firepower to give you a one heavy pound. Tried Voidray rush in one game just now, not too bad.
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TSincx	Aug 5 2010, 11:40 AM Return to original view \| Post #7
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Yup. Added to the front page.
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TSincx	Aug 6 2010, 10:27 PM Return to original view \| Post #8
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	I find it really frusfrating coz' most of the time I end up losing to zerg players. Gah. Is there any sign that could tell that a zerg player is going for mutas? Each time I prepare for a rush, no rush came and end up with mutas swarming in. And I'm really scratching my head on how to counter combos of corruptors and broodlords. They're irritating like crap. This post has been edited by incx: Aug 6 2010, 10:29 PM
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TSincx	Aug 6 2010, 11:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #9
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	I've tried the 2 gateway rush as well, it works fine occasionally but the problem is if the zerg player is smart enough, they'll run past my zealots and head for my probes. That's the prob. @ZeratoS: Thanks. I'll have a read.
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TSincx	Aug 7 2010, 07:56 AM Return to original view \| Post #10
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Thanks for the tip. Will try again later. How bout' maps with bigger ramps? I don't think you can pylon block the large area. I suppose that's when you really have to fully utilize the probes. And when you pylon block, don't you have to destroy the pylon later to let units out? But then again, that's why there's warpgates. This post has been edited by incx: Aug 7 2010, 07:57 AM
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TSincx	Aug 10 2010, 07:37 PM Return to original view \| Post #11
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	I'm still around, doing both actually. Put up on the front page already. If anyone has any videos to contribute, do post them here.
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TSincx	Aug 10 2010, 09:09 PM Return to original view \| Post #12
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Oops. Mistake. Renamed.
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TSincx	Aug 11 2010, 09:21 PM Return to original view \| Post #13
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Is there any sites that's good to upload replays? Would be great if you guys could share it here as well. And do share any good protoss replays that you have too. This post has been edited by incx: Aug 11 2010, 09:29 PM
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TSincx	Aug 11 2010, 09:49 PM Return to original view \| Post #14
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Don't la shy. Share share. So we all can learn. This post has been edited by incx: Aug 11 2010, 09:49 PM
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TSincx	Aug 12 2010, 10:13 AM Return to original view \| Post #15
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 11 2010, 10:10 PM) pm me ur email =p Haiyo. Post here mah. Anyone wanna play some custom game matches?
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TSincx	Aug 18 2010, 12:06 AM Return to original view \| Post #16
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	As far as I can say... don't play defensive against Terrans. Scout early and see what they're going for. Most Terrans would be blocking their entrance early on. So, quickly pump Stalkers quickly so that you can harass their blockade. Even if you can't do much, irritate them as much would be good too. Although Stalkers are fairly weak against Marauders and Marines, they're better off with a couple of Sentries backing you up. If you notice the Terran player has no early detectors, tech up quickly to DTs to harass them off. Just send multiple DTs in every direction so much so that it renders their scan useless, more or less. Otherwise, try to finish up a Terran quickly, if BCs come to play, it'll be a real pain to deal with.
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TSincx	Aug 18 2010, 10:28 AM Return to original view \| Post #17
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Adoi. Have been on a losing streak past few days. Demoralized already.
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TSincx	Aug 18 2010, 10:37 AM Return to original view \| Post #18
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Told you demoralized. No mood. Added. By the way, added a vid on the front page on countering M&Ms. This post has been edited by incx: Aug 18 2010, 10:42 AM
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TSincx	Aug 18 2010, 10:36 PM Return to original view \| Post #19
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Aug 18 2010, 06:56 PM) Guys what are your tactics for toss so far? Mine would be rushing for VR's then got 2 then straight go charge. So far its not been doing well for me already, if going againsts terran sure lose coz got marines, if go againsts toss they got their anti-air. So whats another good strat for an early/mid game? It depends on what's your opponent is going for. I always have trouble going against zerg players though. Recently I used a build order, which apparently was supposed to be the general BO that every protoss users use, but seems like I'm ending in losing streaks. Gah. 9 Pylon 12 Gateway 13 Gas / Gateway 15 Cybernetics so on and so forth... Somehow I felt like having to wait till 9 probes for Pylon, isn't a bit tad too slow?
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TSincx	Aug 19 2010, 11:49 PM Return to original view \| Post #20
Getting Started Junior Member 135 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Somehow getting used to the BO already. Resource comes in pretty fast using this current build. Anyway, updated the front page with some gameplay vids. And here's 2 replays from me. One for Sichiri as requested. Tele Play Tele Play 2 Both similar gameplay styles but against Terran and Protoss. This one's for Sich. DTs & Chargelots And I'm still on a losing streak. This post has been edited by incx: Aug 19 2010, 11:50 PM
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