Didn't seem to have nerfed the MMM though.
But then, there might be more changes added other than the ones listed.

Ouch...
How are you losing? What did they build against you each time?

Yea the reaper harass is a killer if you don't have a stalker out.
MMM drop is still quite a pain for us toss.
Unless they are careless enough to lose the whole medivac with their army still in it, which would make your life easier.

Oooh. Time to try it out.
But think I'll most probably lose those stalkers when I try to do something at base and look back to them.
Either I lose them or I'll lost my void rays.

I'm still kinda slow at my micro and macro...

Mine is probably at 20-30.
I better open back a replay to see my average apm.
The only time I get to 60-80 is when I'm on high I think, that is when I feel a lot of blood pumping and my heart starts to beat real fast.
Don't really like the feeling, my hands are shaking after the game when that happens.

Hmm. I'm good at using the waypoint. Seldom use follow though. I'll try it out.
Hold position never used before for attacking. I only used it to lock my zealot in place not to let their zealots or zerglings in.
Probably going to lose all of them while I try this out haha.
But better to lose and learn.

You can try a few things out like click on probe, then B E for pylon, left click to place it then, shift right click back on your minerals.
That way your probe will go there place pylon and straight away go back to the mineral patch.

Can also just waypoint your scouting probe to all the starting locations.
Find the opponent already, waypoint your probe in circles and lastly back to base while you continue your macro at base.

Oh cool! gonna try that out.
So basically that zealot would be just to eat damage until low on shield then swap with another to look up the ramp and snipe the wall.


Wow. Haha. Nice thing to try also. But its like suicide to warp in over the wall. Sounds dangerous.
Would be nice to warp in on the mineral line though.

Haha sounds good.
Hmm I'll try it out by building a pylon in front, then poke his back with void rays. If he go there to stop my void rays, I'll warp em in.

Mmm. I'll probably lose a couple of pylons until I find the right distance.
Hope it is not a couple of games haha.

Yea Carriers are quite weak against air to air units. But if you support them with stalkers, they are quite safe since the carrier can take quite a beating.
Never run them into a base full of missile turrets though. The carriers may have a good range but all your interceptors will die in the process. But if there's only 1 or 2, go and own them with your carriers.

He yamato your carriers? Haha. The BC you can outrange them but the problem is the yamato gun 1 shot will take your carrier to 1/4 life with 0 shield.

I've fought with vikings before but they weren't much of a threat unless he can send quite a number of them at you. Just make sure you focus fire your carriers and your interceptors will probably almost take down 1 viking per round. If 1 on 1, then 3 rounds I think. However, if you're not in the middle of attacking something and your interceptors are not yet deployed in action, you're in trouble. You can even fall back a bit to reel the vikings in, don't leave your carriers standing still as your interceptors will continue attacking them.

This post has been edited by tatyinw: Sep 3 2010, 01:34 PM

Yea. I stopped using carriers after doing some reading.
Changed to using VRs for air.
Actually helped a lot as my win ratio went up since then.

Think I should try templars. Been using VRs for the first push each time and after that moved to Immortals.
I'll probably test out going templars for tonight.

Yea. Hydralisk are deadly against air. I lost my whole air fleet when my opponent got his hydralisk.
That's the one game I used templars and got the Meatgrinder achievement.
He had so many hydralisk that shooting 6 storms on anywhere of his army easily took down half his army.
I still lost though as I was still quite bad at macro at that time, I had such a small army as I didn't change my gateways to warpgates...
Thinking back, I was such a noob at that time...

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Added on September 3, 2010, 2:02 pmI can't really get both Colossus and Void Rays at the same time.
Unless the game prolongs to pass mid game.
Usually depends on what I scouted in the enemy base before I decide to go void ray or not.

Most of my games was void ray first since I scouted them going marauders more than marines, tech labs but no reactor.
Factories or a starport with a reactor, which they usually build medivacs and hellions instead of vikings unless they scouted my stargate which I usually hide at a corner.

Zerg was a roach warren instead of going lair. Looked like a zergling & roach rush.

Protoss was sometimes 4 gates with a late cybernetics core. Probably a zealot rush.
Just have to make sure entrance is closed up enough so only 1 or 2 zealots can fit the gap.

Still highly depends on intel. Scout first, then decide what to build.

If not, just follow Day9's daily #168 I think. Just macro and fast expand to have a big army of zealots and stalkers.
Just watched it last night so probably gonna try that in a game tonight as well.

This post has been edited by tatyinw: Sep 3 2010, 02:02 PM

Haha. Thanks evofantasy.
I saw the phoenix rush build at the first page.
Feel like trying but my apm is really averaging at around 30 only.
Just checked one of my replays last night.
I'll probably screw it up quite a bit.
Hope I don't end up lifting my own units by mistake.
I actually sniped my own zealots before when trying to micro my stalkers to snipe my opponent's units.

Ok. Guess its time to swap my void rays with phoenix when going against zerg.
I'll try it out if I get a zerg opponent tonight.

So I just lift up all his roaches is it? that way my zealots can happily charge to his hydralisk.

Wah nice! A few shots and they are dead.
They got 90hp only right? Easily slaughtered haha.

Oh thanks. 4 shots then haha.

Not good to judge people like that though...

Yea those guys are just plain rude.

Haha yea. I got defeated last night by the same terran, somehow got matched with him twice. Couldn't get pass his mass of siege tanks turtling in base. Tried blinking my stalkers in but they got taken down by his marauders that are guarding his tanks. Tried to go air, but he massed vikings too to defend against it.Think I should have just went high templar or colossus, scout and blast those tanks off the cliff. Can't really think of anything to take it down at the moment.

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Added on September 4, 2010, 11:37 amTried that out last night. I was pretty screwed haha. Lost 3 times to Zerg players.
Still kinda blur how to use those phoenix properly.

This post has been edited by tatyinw: Sep 4 2010, 11:37 AM

Oh thanks. I'll try that again.
I was so busy trying to micro the phoenix that I just let my ground army auto attack haha.
Kinda screwed up battle for the last 3 games I had against zerg.
They must be laughing at what I was trying to do with my phoenix.

Haha yea. Most of the games I won against that army was with VRs.
Just the latest one I don't know what to do. He turtled in base with siege tanks and marauders and the air was full of vikings. What do you think? Phoenix? Sounds like the only viable option until he saw it and filled his base with missile turrets haha. I was like crap... how do I break this shell now...

I'll try with the 2 stargates. I was with only one. Maybe that's why I could not get enough of them to kill my zerg opponent.
Only had 3 when army clashed.

This post has been edited by tatyinw: Sep 4 2010, 05:06 PM