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cupmee2nd
post Oct 15 2010, 09:27 PM

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hi guys i just swtich raace. Yes i the protoss decide to change a human into one of them.

here are some problems i am facing.
1. Before i can get 2nd gateway, terran proxy 3 rack mass marine rush pwn me.

2.Before i can get 2nd gateway, zerg mass roach rush me with drone support..

thanks in advance will upload those sad replays later.
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post Oct 16 2010, 03:50 PM

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I am back and kicking! Won a few games in a row now.

But what can I improve on? I got pwn by zerg
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/91256-1...listering-sands

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post Oct 16 2010, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(#Fly @ Oct 16 2010, 06:52 PM)
Downloading it now. Upload it to http://www.sc2replayed.com/ next time dude. I see what i can help you with.

Here is my replays

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Early bio ball atk. Counter by making them probe. http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/91378-1...oss-lost-temple
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post Oct 16 2010, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(#Fly @ Oct 16 2010, 06:52 PM)
2 more replays on my progress of learning 4gate
any suggestions?
1. Make them probe. Juz like Sky say, you need to make them probe. You need at least 30 probe at your base.
2. Use hotkeys, they can improve your multi tasking.
3. Spend your money. You have a lot of minerals at the end of the game. Build more gateway or robotbay or nat expo
4. Early units to def. Make 1 zelot, 1 stalker, 1 sentry. To def aganist rush.

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post Oct 16 2010, 09:40 PM

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go and watch day[9] daily newbiew tuesday 1. I think it is call tht. Summary of tht video is to keep making probe and plyon so you do not get food block. Train yourself to be keep making probe. I am free tomorrow morning so pm me if you would like me to practice with you
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post Oct 17 2010, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(incx @ Oct 17 2010, 08:44 AM)
I personally think that Toss is really at a disadvantage right now... seriously.
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like how?
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(incx @ Oct 17 2010, 09:37 AM)
I think roaches are way too powerful early game now. Despite knowing the opponent is gonna roach rush also is somewhat difficult to fend off, especially with their range upgrade. Even holding them off at the ramp seemed more difficult than usual.
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i almost lose to a z roach rush just now.. Need a lot of sentry to block off my door while i spam immortal
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post Oct 19 2010, 04:40 PM

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god damn it~ I got rape by a MMM drop... Really hard to counter... I got 2 colo but stim MM just melt it..
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post Oct 19 2010, 08:42 PM

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will stim require factory any time soon?
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post Oct 20 2010, 06:30 AM

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roach spam is hard to counter with immortal, they outnumber me 4 to 1. And to think tht roaqch only cost 1 food back in the day
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post Oct 22 2010, 04:55 PM

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hence stalker needs a buff haha
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post Oct 22 2010, 07:57 PM

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Roach are still big problem for protoss..
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post Oct 22 2010, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 22 2010, 10:16 PM)
wanna know why are VR nerfed?
great, a non-toss main race user send u a replay and it gets nerfed...
might as well send replays on how roaches are roflstomping now and get them nerfed...
how bout the polt timing atk?

Q. Recent patch changed how Void Rays work?
A. A Korean progamer, who played a Protoss although his main race isn't Protoss, sent us a replay showing a weakness of opponents in a certain specific period of time when a Protoss is using a Void Ray. Through the replay, we gave Void Ray the change that it received.

why are zealot nerfed?
cause silver leaguers cant handle proxy zeal and now high lvl toss suffer from their early pressure

A. We take teamplay seriously as well as 1v1. Recent 1.1.2 patch changed Reapers. While Reapers had no problem in 1:1, if you look at the top of the 2:2 team ranks, almost half of them are Terran+Zerg, and they all use Reaperling. This problem is same in NA as well as in Korea. This means that you can't succeed all that well in teamplay unless you play a Terran+Zerg combination, so we try to fix it if the problem is as big as that. If not, then we try to balance around 1:1.
Also, forward proxy gate Zealot rush was popular for a bit after release. This didn't get much use among the top players, but it was near impossible to stop at silver-level play. So we pondered how to fix this balance issue without affecting top players, and in the end, we decided to increase the time required to build Zealots to get it balanced.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=162815
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post Oct 25 2010, 01:58 PM

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make roach cost 100/25 seem fair... Someone send a email to Bliz!

BTW my APM finally the same with my War3 Melee APM, about 120~
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post Oct 25 2010, 07:23 PM

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after playing with Kyong(damn pro z player) i will never ever fast expo agnist zerg. My balls are not tht hard

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post Nov 3 2010, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(xShinji @ Nov 3 2010, 02:15 PM)
When I was plat/gold ..I used double side attack on turtle terran.

warp prism lure all the Terran unit away from ramp, den send my unit hit the ramp ....but totally not easy =,=" once I got into diamond. Thx to terran early pressure is strong
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I try that trick out before, but terran always has a few marine at the back of the base.
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post Nov 6 2010, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Nov 6 2010, 04:22 PM)
i get what you mean now evo

so a 1gate --> forge is the best way to play around vs anything early the zerg could pull off against a toss?

problem is that, i made a 13gate and laid down a 17 cyber core and my lot isn't (halfway) done when i was 8 pooled rush on scrap station

prolly is cause i did a 14 gas while the pool was like 80% completed?LOL
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forge wall off will stop 8pool
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post Nov 6 2010, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Nov 6 2010, 06:17 PM)
<3 the 15nexus build
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When a go for the 15 nexus build, the zerg just spam roach and speedling... Always got steam roll..
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post Nov 12 2010, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Nov 10 2010, 08:59 AM)
guys...normally how many probes do you all produce for 1 mineral site?

i know 3 probes for each vespene site..what about mineral?
i heard 3 for each mineral chunk?
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4 row of probe, so I can have enough probes to expanse
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post Nov 19 2010, 12:27 PM

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i now have problem dealing with bio ball with siege tank support with 1 or 2 thor. The only way i found to deal with this is with psi storm and blink stalkers. Any other way to deal with this?

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