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Investment KINRARA RESIDENCE [OWNERS' THREAD], Lifestyle landed homes from Mah Sing

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zavier98
post Sep 1 2011, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Sep 1 2011, 01:46 AM)
Your question seems very simple, but it is indeed quite hard to answer.
IMHO, buying a property (for own stay) is very personal. It is all to do with Weighting/priority issue
Many years back, 3 golden investment rules/tips that I hold firmly :-
1. Freehold (50%) 2. Prime location (30%) 3. Landed (20%)

5 years ago, I change my rating (weight/priority)
1. Freehold 2. G+G 3. Prime location / average prime + good accessibility 4. Landed  5. Environment (landscaping) + club house 6. House facade + layout design
2 years ago, I change the sequence again
1. G+G 2. Freehold 3. Prime location / average prime + good accessibility  4. Environment (landscaping) + club house  5. Landed  6. House facade + layout design
and Now,
1. G+G 2. Prime location / average prime + good accessibility 3. Environment (landscaping) + club house  4. Landed  5. House facade + layout design  6. Freehold

BPP is freehold definitely better than KR leasehold, if you think or weight freehold the most important criteria, and rate location as minor concern, then BPP is definitely better for you. BPP will become a prime location when Puchong has well developed (next 10 years) and Cyberjaya / Putra Permai Equine park area become mature (15 years I estimate).

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post Sep 1 2011, 01:10 PM

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bro ufo, u seemed like a very season investors
would like to follow u buy if got $$$, preferably landed
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Sep 1 2011, 01:46 AM)
1. G+G 2. Prime location / average prime + good accessibility 3. Environment (landscaping) + club house  4. Landed  5. House facade + layout design  6. Freehold
if these factors are important to you, would you rather buy from subsale where the factors are more concrete and proven?
bcos everyone is selling G+G (at least on papers) so this factor cannot be judged when buying
also, club house, landscaping (hard and softscapes) are just promising from developers....you read that in JH thread, most owners are not happy about the streetscape.....

how do you justify "prime location" here? by your own dictionery, or the popular centre of gravity argument?

noted that pricing, timing and developer's reputation and past track records weren't high on your list...I wonder why?

lastly, have you visited those G&G housing estates VPed by Mah Sing before you vested in this KR? eg. Kemuning Residences, Aman Perdana, Hijuan Residences and etc...and draw your conclusion?

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QUOTE(cookies_cai @ Aug 30 2011, 04:45 PM)
Looking at the rough drawing by UFO & thestar paper, it is closer to Palmiera than Ambrosia. We should take note of the following:

1) The highway is not elevated, it is on surface level, so it shud b parallel wif the access road towards Palmiera/Ambrosia
2) The nearest proposed interchange (no. 2) is right above KR, wher residence can use it to access SK, Cyber & Bk Jalil
3) Yes, with the highway as the borderline between KR & forest reserve, u end up smelling green as well as tarmacs & dusts :s, not the most desirable situation
4) Traffics passing by KR will increase many folds, which will be good for those shop lots in Damai Utama (currently mostly vacant) & nearby but not too desirable for Kinrara residences
5) What could be equally worrying is the proposed Kinrara-Damansara highway - anyone have any idea where does it cut through??
6) There is no interchange proposed between SKIP and MEX, can only access MEX via SK or Sri Petaling, no shortcut to KL
7) The highway charges per entry fees regardless of your entry point, it remains to be seen the position of the tollgates

Personally, I do see it as a plus point to the residence. The population boom in Kinrara is already creating traffic bottlenecks in SK and Bukit Jalil. Something needs to be done before this place hits critical traffic situation......

One thing we could do is seek clarification on the proximity of the highway to KR from TMS and relevant authorities....
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Yes, you are right from the photo of STAR earlier on, it is not elevated but on surface level. It will sure increase the traffic flow but to what extent level only. Anyone of any idea if this is just a propose stage or it has been confirmed project?



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post Sep 1 2011, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Covillea @ Aug 22 2011, 11:09 AM)
Kinrara Residence

Bungalow:
1)

Semi-D Three-Storey (total 144 units, 116 units sold) - 81% sold:
1) Antzfield
2) cookies_cai

Semi-D Double-Storey (total 120 units, 98 units sold) - 82% sold:
1) Covillea
2) driftmeister
3) eric er
4) cooolguy
5) comptechie1
6) liang7524
7) Kinraraboy

Link Three-Storey Purchasers (total 269 units, 240 units sold) - 89% sold:
1) UFO-ET
2) frozen44
3) QW$$
4) allwerp
5) MILAN88
6) lupjoeq

Link Two-and-a-Half-Storey (Total : 67 units, 46 units sold?) - 69% sold:
1) krgia10

Link Double-Storey (Total : 113 units, 106 units sold?) - 94% sold:
1) pcteck19
2) mrkenjiro
3) alfredfx
4) chkit

Note :
2 & 2 1/2 storey still have 28+units bumi lots open for non-bumi
3 storey Superlink new price 1.068 million
2 storey Semi-D - Left Bumi lot

Calling all KR purchasers to check-in so that we can establish an informal group (outside the forum) prior to VP to safeguard each other's interests & also to work with Mah Sing to promote KR to the next level. A Teh Tarik Session to be arranged once we've everyone reporting in.


Added on August 22, 2011, 1:50 pmKR - Nearby Commercial Developments:

The Atmosphere
http://www.theatmosphere.com.my/main.html

Kinrara Uptown
http://www.aqrs.com.my/kinrara.html

CRESTE at Puncak Jalil
http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...-Office_ForSale

Kinrara Square
http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...-Office_ForSale

TTDI Dualis
http://www.ttdidualis.com/

EQuator
http://www.equine.com.my/kembangan_commercial.html

Equine Boulevard
http://www.equine.com.my/equine_boulevard.html

Puchong Gateway
http://puchonggateway.com.my/

Coming soon:
3 Element (by Titijaya Group)
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Hi, I am new comer. Please count me in as i have bought a unit of Link Three-Storey by early of year 2011. Glad to joint your for the infomal group...... for more information of KR development. Thanks. smile.gif

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post Sep 2 2011, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Sep 1 2011, 12:35 PM)
Nope dun think kalsa brick is better...kalsa is still make of sand thought is tougher(after compression and hydration) than sand brick and clay brick but does not have the beauty of clay bricks in terms of adaptability to weather. Clay by nature is to capture heat when weather is cold and releases heat faster when weather is hot.

And u r right it require different method of installing and plastering OR ELSE in future sure got problem due to malaysia tropika weather....wall crack  sad.gif
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As an individual building block, kalsa has more pro's and con's than clay.

In the context of KR as a residential building, heat transfer (whether its clay or kalsa is not your biggest issue) is compounded by the presence of ceiling height glass windows. It alone transmits up to 85% solar heat from outside.

In energy efficient homes such as KR, a wall system is best when it keeps the cool air (air-cond air) inside and outside hot air outside. Good heat transfer material is not suitable in this case. Also, in our humid condition, a material that insulates your home and furniture from fungus and moist is preferred.

Since a high percentage of KR homes are made of glass windows, you have a better chance of heat and moisture avoidance by reducing heat load originating from your windows. Solar films, external facades, window blinds, etc. should be part of your thermal comfort strategy - afterall, you can't do much about what material has been used to build your walls. One last thing, if you don't turn on the air cond, the modern home is a perfect place to trap moisture from human activities. Then you'd need good ventilation strategy as well.

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landed klang valley sure 300k ++..haizzzz....
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post Sep 3 2011, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Sep 1 2011, 12:35 PM)
Nope dun think kalsa brick is better...kalsa is still make of sand thought is tougher(after compression and hydration) than sand brick and clay brick but does not have the beauty of clay bricks in terms of adaptability to weather. Clay by nature is to capture heat when weather is cold and releases heat faster when weather is hot.

And u r right it require different method of installing and plastering OR ELSE in future sure got problem due to malaysia tropika weather....wall crack  sad.gif
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i dont want kalsa bricks la.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Aug 27 2011, 03:55 PM)
I was in Kinrara Residences's sales gallery this afternoon. Based on the info received, there is left 11 units of 2.5 storey (where 3 of it are MHJ's design), 7 units of 2 storey (where 2 of it are MHJ's design).

The price for 2.5 storey (MS design, intermediate, 3038sqft) = RM888,800.00
The price for 2.0 storey (MS design, end lot 2970sqft) = RM868,800.00

I would like to get the opinion of all of you, based on the layout, which type you may prefer? Is it worth to buy at such price? Questions still pop up in my mind and im not at the condition to put the booking fees.

Kindly advise.....
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what are the differences between MS and MHJ design?
I'm supposed both the design and layout as well as the pricing is the same right?
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post Sep 3 2011, 02:12 PM

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post Sep 4 2011, 09:15 AM

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Hi. Need some GUIDANCE here. I just booked a 2.5 storey in the remaining bumi-released. I was rushing at it because afraid all will be taken up. Was very happy and googled on some info right after... but got concerned after seeing some of the posts here.

I came to know Mah Sing after seeing the Garden Residence in Cyberjaya; then went to their impressive launching in Kinrara Residence. Was very tempted to get a unit then but 3storey was already priced close to 1Mil (can't afford). Then this 2.5 storey bumi released priced RM888,800.... thought I should push all my way. All hype-up, I book this unit, blindly confirm everything (having full confidence in Mah Sing).

So, after seeing this thread and knowing about past Mahajaya who bought at RM5++k, I have few concerns about its deliveries, and hopefully some of you sifu here can share some valid info:
* if initial price at less than 1 year ago can be as low as 60% of current, will we get substandard value in material used and workmanship
* as far as I know, only 3 storey comes with solar, acond refrigrant piping (not sure what this is), water booster, water filter and intercom; any other difference besides the visible clay brick and sand brick used?
* what about tiles? handles along stairs? sanitary wares and water taps? 3 phase wiring / single phase? no. of lighting points internal / external, fan, acond/piping? cheap flush doors for rooms and bathrooms? Window glass and frames used? workmanship details (rounded edged of stair case steps, properly flatten flooring, roofs and walls, complete and well-aligned floor skirting, etc)

The list may be long... RM 900k is a lot to me (maybe not for the 3storeys and Semi Ds owner). For the premium at my limit, I don't expect getting some standard installed used in Mahajaya old phases. I am really hoping that Mah Sing live up to standard even to compensate to previous Mahajaya buyer (whether upgrade / non-upgrade) as they took over the project and relaunch it at RM818k. So the deliveries of the project should be as Mah Sing own launched intend (not MahaJaya).

I am really hoping to get some positive inputs here. Thanks
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post Sep 4 2011, 10:18 AM

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vevex, don't worry. Mahajaya got a windfall due to Mah Sing take over. Not because you have bought with expensive price, is Mahajaya purchaser that bought with a super cheap price. When purchaser bought from Mahajaya, no concept for the project. No landscaping, no clubhouse, no nice facade., that's why 500k+. You pay more now is because of the value added component, and also TMS name biggrin.gif
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Hi super911. Thanks for the swift reply. You bought Kinrara Residence as well? Which type? If 3 storeys, less worry. Do you have the specification on wiring phase, floor finishing / skirting, doors, electrical points, etc.? Other buyers who signed S&P? Pls share. I am really concern still....
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No, I am not a KR buyer. From my observation, TMS key focus is selling the concept, and not in the material used. Even their semi-d is using lousy fittings. Take a look at their flooring and doors material you will understand. Therefore, get ready to spend to renovate if you really want a good looking outside and inside house biggrin.gif
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That is not exactly right. Renovation is of course but if it required the change even to replace all sanitary wares (basin and toiletry), tiling, rendering, it will will cost even more than their Semi Ds. That's not the case for 3 storeys and semi Ds if finishing is according to their show unit. Would any phase 2B owner share some thoughts? Thanks.


Added on September 4, 2011, 11:03 am
QUOTE(vevex @ Sep 4 2011, 09:15 AM)
Hi. Need some GUIDANCE here. I just booked a 2.5 storey in the remaining bumi-released. I was rushing at it because afraid all will be taken up. Was very happy and googled on some info right after... but got concerned after seeing some of the posts here.

I came to know Mah Sing after seeing the Garden Residence in Cyberjaya; then went to their impressive launching in Kinrara Residence. Was very tempted to get a unit then but 3storey was already priced close to 1Mil (can't afford). Then this 2.5 storey bumi released priced RM888,800.... thought I should push all my way. All hype-up, I book this unit, blindly confirm everything (having full confidence in Mah Sing).

So, after seeing this thread and knowing about past Mahajaya who bought at RM5++k, I have few concerns about its deliveries, and hopefully some of you sifu here can share some valid info:
* if initial price at less than 1 year ago can be as low as 60% of current, will we get substandard value in material used and workmanship
* as far as I know, only 3 storey comes with solar, acond refrigrant piping (not sure what this is), water booster, water filter and intercom; any other difference besides the visible clay brick and sand brick used?
* what about tiles? handles along stairs? sanitary wares and water taps? 3 phase wiring / single phase? no. of lighting points internal / external, fan, acond/piping? cheap flush doors for rooms and bathrooms? Window glass and frames used? workmanship details (rounded edged of stair case steps, properly flatten flooring, roofs and walls, complete and well-aligned floor skirting, etc)

The list may be long... RM 900k is a lot to me (maybe not for the 3storeys and Semi Ds owner). For the premium at my limit, I don't expect getting some standard installed used in Mahajaya old phases. I am really hoping that Mah Sing live up to standard even to compensate to previous Mahajaya buyer (whether upgrade / non-upgrade) as they took over the project and relaunch it at RM818k. So the deliveries of the project should be as Mah Sing own launched intend (not MahaJaya).

I am really hoping to get some positive inputs here. Thanks
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Any Phase 2B Owner comments?

This post has been edited by vevex: Sep 4 2011, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(vevex @ Sep 4 2011, 10:32 AM)
Hi super911. Thanks for the swift reply. You bought Kinrara Residence as well? Which type? If 3 storeys, less worry. Do you have the specification on wiring phase, floor finishing / skirting, doors, electrical points, etc.? Other buyers who signed S&P? Pls share. I am really concern still....
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You can share the comment with this forum also:
Kinrara Residence - Link House (2 & 2.5 storey buyer forum)

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1883923/+120

2.5 strorey layout plan and elevation quite good, i don't think you will feel regret in-future...!
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post Sep 5 2011, 12:14 PM

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Kinrara Residence

Bungalow:
1)

Semi-D Three-Storey (total 144 units, 116 units sold) - 81% sold:
1) Antzfield
2) cookies_cai

Semi-D Double-Storey (total 120 units, 98 units sold) - 82% sold:
1) Covillea
2) driftmeister
3) eric er
4) cooolguy
5) comptechie1
6) liang7524
7) Kinraraboy

Link Three-Storey Purchasers (total 269 units, 240 units sold) - 89% sold:
1) UFO-ET
2) frozen44
3) QW$$
4) allwerp
5) MILAN88
6) lupjoeq
7) FlyingJoy

Link Two-and-a-Half-Storey (Total : 67 units, 46 units sold?) - 69% sold:
1) krgia10

Link Double-Storey (Total : 113 units, 106 units sold?) - 94% sold:
1) pcteck19
2) mrkenjiro
3) alfredfx
4) chkit

Note :
2 & 2 1/2 storey still have 28+units bumi lots open for non-bumi
3 storey Superlink new price 1.068 million
2 storey Semi-D - Left Bumi lot

Calling all KR purchasers to check-in so that we can establish an informal group (outside the forum) prior to VP to safeguard each other's interests & also to work with Mah Sing to promote KR to the next level. A Teh Tarik Session to be arranged once we've everyone reporting in.


KR - Nearby Commercial Developments:

The Atmosphere
http://www.theatmosphere.com.my/main.html

Kinrara Uptown
http://www.aqrs.com.my/kinrara.html

CRESTE at Puncak Jalil
http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...-Office_ForSale

Kinrara Square
http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...-Office_ForSale

TTDI Dualis
http://www.ttdidualis.com/

EQuator
http://www.equine.com.my/kembangan_commercial.html

Equine Boulevard
http://www.equine.com.my/equine_boulevard.html

Puchong Gateway
http://puchonggateway.com.my/

Coming soon:
3 Element (by Titijaya Group)


Added on September 6, 2011, 12:07 pmAll purchasers should get an official response from Mah Sing how SKIP will impact KR.


A highway linking Kinrara, Serdang and Putrajaya with seven interchanges, is in the pipeline.

The 17km Serdang-Kinrara-Putrajaya Expressway (Skip) will have three main toll plazas and two on the ramps.

The highway, which starts near the Giant Hypermarket in BK 5a in Puchong, will pass by the Ayer Hitam Forest Reserve and head towards Taman Lestari Perdana. From this point, the highway will be split into two directions.

The first will go through Taman Putra Permai and eventually connect the South Klang Valley Expressway.

The second will connect Taman Universiti Indah and Sri Sedang and then link to the Besraya Highway.

Its concessionaire and the Malaysian Highway Authority briefed the Subang Jaya Municipal Council (MPSJ) last week.

MPSJ councillor Ng Sze Han said the council welcomed the project that would reduce traffic jam in Jalan Besar, Serdang, and part of Damansara-Puchong Highway (LDP) in front of the IOI Mall in Puchong.

http://www.starproperty.my/PropertyScene/P...Scene/14479/0/0

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is this just a proposal or a confirmed deal? who can verify this?

assuming it is a done deal, will there be a wall in between the highway and the houses? this in particular will most affects those houses along the highway, with noise as well as dusts.

between, based on the current KR's plan, since this is g n g, is it fenced by brick walls or just normal fencing?

anyway, if anyone know of the other highway of Kinrara-Damansara highway, is it another proposal?
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if the SKIP highway is a confirmed proposal i think it wouldnt affect much to the palmeria of kinrara residence too since it is not elevated but is parallel to the road heading all the way to kinrara residence...
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QUOTE(Antzfield @ Sep 6 2011, 03:10 PM)
is this just a proposal or a confirmed deal? who can verify this?

assuming it is a done deal, will there be a wall in between the highway and the houses? this in particular will most affects those houses along the highway, with noise as well as dusts.

between, based on the current KR's plan, since this is g n g, is it fenced by brick walls or just normal fencing?

anyway, if anyone know of the other highway of Kinrara-Damansara highway, is it another proposal?
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SKIP highway + Kinrara Damansara highway = another "LDP" highway in the making notworthy.gif

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