First of all, im sorry if there is another topic similar to this. Pls advise or move to according thread.
Running of Android made me tempting with HTC Desire (Linux kernel) but an Iphone with Unix kernel too. Both average quite stable. But based on your experience to those just changed to HTC, why changed to HTC (Android base) Software friendly how?
This post has been edited by xjukie: Jul 26 2010, 10:23 PM
Bro, you're asking in Android's board, you're likely to get response biased towards Android Well, it won't be biased anyway..Coz Android is the best anyway..
My suggestion? You seem knowledgable in UNIX systems, try getting the HTC Desire.. My challenge? See if you can switch to iPhone after that
Oh, and btw, we have our own Malaysian version compiled kernel for Nexus One..That's how interesting Android is..
...Ever heard of iPhone's kernel made in Malaysia?
shahz, do i look to get biased response in here ? haha all my replied goes to Android things actually, but just want to know in deep u guys experience.
btw i like ur challenge hehe, looks like im near to Android soon so malaysia's kernel gonna run in Bahasa rite haha good
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QUOTE(xjukie @ Jul 13 2010, 08:42 PM)
First of all, im sorry if there is another topic similar to this. Pls advise or move to according thread.
Running of Android made me tempting with HTC Desire (Linux kernel) but an Iphone with Unix kernel too. Both average quite stable. But based on your experience to those just changed to HTC, why changed to HTC (Android base) Software friendly how?
yes, SOFTWARE.. android OS u can use GOOGLE MAPS WITH VOICE NAVIGATION after rooting.. Iphone still cannot... but can use PAPAGO or TOMTOM after JB.... too GREAT~~
I always ask my frenz:"Why IPhone"? and i always get the ans:very powerful and trend ma~ 1st of all..i dun really like Iphone since the look like steve job is nt planning to hire any designer...juz look at IPhone 4...it look the same except it plain and square nw=.= Beside,the mac os is too bored at all...the UI is the thing that make me choose Android rather than Mac the most important is...Android won't failed me if ppl ask me wat hp u sing and getting ans like~Huh?IPhone...again??? and agn sry for my lousy english^^
Added on July 14, 2010, 3:50 amOMG~there's another problem that i juz remember...IPhone4 gt antenna problem=.=
This post has been edited by ligter: Jul 14 2010, 03:50 AM
i think iphone is just for ppl that wanna have fun n don mind customizing their phone.
android is just the type of phone that enable u to do all the customization. you can make your phone totally diff from others. now that google is going to launch(or already launched?) the software that enable ppl to make apps even without the knowledge of programming. you can simply create any simple apps for your own.
The amount of money you pay for an iPhone, you might regret once you realize how un-customizable it is.
And if you like Linux, forget about the iPhone. You will have a hell of a time transferring files because iPhones need iTunes installed on a machine before it can transfer anything. Whereas Android phones come with SDCards which are just detected as normal USB disks.
The only real advantage of the iPhone is it's huge app store and generally better-quality apps.
Its quite strange that you guys find Iphone OS boring. Its pretty loaded with apps and games woh. I thought Android is pretty limited on this side? I find that people like to mess with their phone so that they look different from others but I really think thats really should not be a plus point regardless how you look from it. I choose Android because I want Flash and I like how the whole idea of Web, Email and OS intergration by Google as well as the good job from HTC on Sense.
For me I chose the Desire over an iPhone because it appealed to the nerd in me, the ability to tweak to your heart's desire won over the polished but controlled nature of the iOS. In terms of design aesthetics it's a toss up as they say beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Apple to be fair makes excellent products that work out of the box most times and their user experience IMHO is still the one to beat, notwithstanding my choice of Android. However, the Android platform is incredibly vibrant and the inherrent potential therein is the one thing that excites me more. At the end it's up to your individual preference.
If you ever get into a situation where you need to share files by BlueTooth, the RM3k+ iPhone is going to make you malu when your friend with his cheap Nokia phone can do it but you can't.
If you ever get into a situation where you need to share files by BlueTooth, the RM3k+ iPhone is going to make you malu when your friend with his cheap Nokia phone can do it but you can't.
there is really no fix? jailbreak + some sort of hack still cant bt file transfer?
iphone is a sleek phone, browsing and scrolling is smooth like velvet, desire at times is kinda "lag".
and iphone is better when comes to the availability of app... they hv been in the market longer than android...and of course it will be much better if its a jail broken phone.
but my heart is with android,.... ok i hv to admit, u hv to go thru the learning curve. it took me 1 day just to figure out how to add my contact into "favorite" group. LOL ...but hey, thts wat makes the phone more interesting ..haha
sending grp sms, grouping of contacts and the weather UI are the big plus of android (HTC sense?) over iPhone.
but i encourages competition, the more fierce the competition between this 2 OS... the more beneficial it is to us, the end user.
oh, one more point, (personally) i found tht surfing internet is faster on my HTC desire than my Iphone...using 3G line... i just noticed tht last night
This post has been edited by qqmeng: Jul 14 2010, 04:42 PM
Iphone is easier for kid n old man. One button make them feel easy. Haha. But we all not that old yet
dude u kept saying using one button will done everything, pls elaborate
Added on July 14, 2010, 5:23 pm
QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jul 14 2010, 03:47 PM)
If you ever get into a situation where you need to share files by BlueTooth, the RM3k+ iPhone is going to make you malu when your friend with his cheap Nokia phone can do it but you can't.
agredd with this, with my iphone 3g currently quite hard for the file sharing/downloading/uploading
This post has been edited by xjukie: Jul 14 2010, 05:23 PM
Android make phones more personal bt IPhone??? Iphone juz make itself more......common? ok...wat i want to say is>>>An Iphone with Android inside = Perfect match and steve pls dun be so stingy and hire more designer to make different to ur phone =.=
Android make phones more personal bt IPhone??? Iphone juz make itself more......common? ok...wat i want to say is>>>An Iphone with Android inside = Perfect match and steve pls dun be so stingy and hire more designer to make different to ur phone =.=
android married with apple ?? i don't think it can happen, and i prefer android vs apple.... more benefit to end user like us....
Android make phones more personal bt IPhone??? Iphone juz make itself more......common? ok...wat i want to say is>>>An Iphone with Android inside = Perfect match and steve pls dun be so stingy and hire more designer to make different to ur phone =.=
not possible, not in this life time. It's like Nikon and Canon joining forces.
i choose Desire cuz its Google!! Guys its the damn Google we're talking about..
If you're using iphone of course those who dont know anything bout the android world will say "Cool~~", but for me, i love feeling cool to myself instead of people saying my phone is cool.
I love the freedom, not caught in the Apple's net(i mean the OS and everything are just fixed, fitting their own needs).
I own an iPhone and Desire and I think both is a good phone. Apple has nicer and unique apps while Android is more customizable and most of the apps are free.
yes, SOFTWARE.. android OS u can use GOOGLE MAPS WITH VOICE NAVIGATION after rooting.. Iphone still cannot... but can use PAPAGO or TOMTOM after JB.... too GREAT~~
May I ask, can you preload the google map into the phone using free wifi? Or you can only download while on the road using telco's expensive data charge?
May I ask, can you preload the google map into the phone using free wifi? Or you can only download while on the road using telco's expensive data charge?
Iphone is easier for kid n old man. One button make them feel easy. Haha. But we all not that old yet
Bro - correction. Not applicable all old man. I am old man 55 already and I love my Nexus. Rooted it the 2nd day and now after using it more than 3 months , I already lost count how many times I change the kernel, the various roms, radio etc. I juz love to tinker with it and customize to my liking. I also have iPhone , 99 % of time in the drawer. Use it only to sync video podcasts and listen audio books when I am on flight. The iPhone I find is just a good out-of-the box for those who love games/play with apps without worrying how to make it better and you can't unless you jailbreak it and try some of the apps not approved by Apple.
Iphone is easier for kid n old man. One button make them feel easy. Haha. But we all not that old yet
That's their sales strategy pitch. Old men like Jobs and Gates were programming using switches before most ppl here were born and even TWO buttons couldn't scare those geezers!
Unfortunately the image sticks.... I see certain glitterati flashing their iPhonie$ to show off and I think, "I dunwanna be seen as part of THAT airheaded crowd."
means that you can get "ahem" version of papago for android? one of the stopping point to get android is the gps. i don't wan to use google map since we need to pay for the data download for the map.
apple is for ppl who appreciates style and simplicity. iphone users have better things to do in their life, and dun spend more than necessary time to 'customize' or tinker arnd wt a fone. while for android fones, is mainly for geeks and nerds who gets a high from endless tweaking and trying to be different juz for the sake of being different. in other words, pathetic.
apple is for ppl who appreciates style and simplicity. iphone users have better things to do in their life, and dun spend more than necessary time to 'customize' or tinker arnd wt a fone. while for android fones, is mainly for geeks and nerds who gets a high from endless tweaking and trying to be different juz for the sake of being different. in other words, pathetic.
i feel special...iphone users are just plain boring
apple is for ppl who appreciates style and simplicity. iphone users have better things to do in their life, and dun spend more than necessary time to 'customize' or tinker arnd wt a fone. while for android fones, is mainly for geeks and nerds who gets a high from endless tweaking and trying to be different juz for the sake of being different. in other words, pathetic.
Why is it Apple fanbois so pathetic? Girls drool over you cos you have style, cos you got an Iphone. Is it being the case you have much better things to do or just being too stupid for an Android?
LOL... just joking.
Sometimes it really make me ROFL real bad when people are being rip few thousand bucks while being told how to hold onto their beloved phone thinks that others are not in the same league. Phone companies that did not teach you how to hold onto your phone is pathetic... GET IT NOW!!!
Anyway, I think Iphone users also JB their device which makes it tweaking as well. Whats the difference now? Besides, Apple got a big AppStore with tonnes of games inside. You claimed you got better things to do? I seen a couple Iphone fanbois trying to shoot each other with their Iphone on the street...
This post has been edited by andrekua: Jul 17 2010, 06:44 AM
And people are complaining that iPhone is too simple and non-customizable? I bet most of the users out there don't even bother about customizing the phone. iPhone is good because it's simple and thus user-friendly, look is very personal, it does look good to me compared to most of the HTC phones out there which look... weird
When stuff gets too complicated it gets unstable too.
iPhone is hella common though... Almost 50% of people here in UK are using iPhone
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haha yea... but in the end what you want from that phone... entertainment that it, and of course the main thing is the calls, sms and also mms... that serve the purpose of a handphone with entertainment...
frankly speaking those are calling Iphone user lame or pathetic might be one themselves too for android system... each system has their own advantage and also disadvantage, just like last time WM and Symbian, but i don like both... coz WM device will never last you 2 days of calls abusing and symbian system is not that user frenly... that is my say...
eg compare a N97 with Xperia 1/2... which will give you an upper hand???? WM or Symbian, Battery Life (talktime/stand-by time)???
i still can't make up my mind which to choose, android (desire) or iphone 3Gs... both has the thing that i want but both does not give me god talk time, well that i what i concern most, over 8hrs of talktime on the spec is more important than anything else... but again there is some stuff that u need to consider also, the UI interface friendliness, the file sharing also and lastly the problems of the phone and system itself...
lol in my case simple. I just dorwanna be those uncle aunties walking round town bragging bout their iphones... Too common and there is nothing special bout it. More over... I do not want to sulk up into Apple's branding. That's all. haha
Added on July 17, 2010, 8:53 amon top of that... i dont think iphone 3gs spec worth the price...
This post has been edited by kidmad: Jul 17 2010, 08:53 AM
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well hard to say with the current promo it is quite attractive... BTW isn't it there a lot of ppl with smart phone already outside... Symbian and WM is everywhere and now BB also growing fast... so what you want to be special??? Android??? u r wrong it is not special at all my fren... last time during WM and Symbian launching time has similar condition also, wow very good, multi function and plenty of stuff to play with... but now it is very slow now.... so it will happen to Android also...
what is desire, nexus 1 or Galaxy S... cheap phone with multitasking in some ppl point of view... want to look for special phone??? my boss last time using 1, Gold Edition Nokia 8800 if not mistaken for that phone with normal basic function only is it worth that much?.... that is special ppl will see u like "wow you are rich or special"
that is my common sense... there is nothing as cheap and not common... just like car... u buy Mitsu Lancer GT coz it is common, come on it is a common car anyway although i did not own one and can't afford 1...
BTW argue also no use as every individual has different preferences... for me Iphone serve my purpose and currently with the price it is more attractive than desire coz it is cheaper for me with my kinda usage... but Desire is nice which is higher spec and it's battery is changeable, that is what i see the most obvious advantage of it over Iphone... OS customization, support more freeware, faster processor, better camera did not make much different as u think... simple and easy life for JB or rooting the phone as no trace after that, u need not to worry about warranty also
This post has been edited by michael9413: Jul 17 2010, 09:14 AM
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tech geek i thought nor nerd haha... depends on individual preference, as i found ppl tends to say they bought the nicest things for themselves even though it is not...
i think the main purpose to get such these phone is mainly the cost of the things... coz android give you more freeware than apple, that is the main concern in malaysia coz ppl not willing to pay a few ringgit for the application and games they wanted
I am having the same problem too to choose btw iphone 3gs or HTC Desire/Legend!
Few years ago i chose Nokia symbian phone over Sony simply because i can install apps into the nokia phone. And i was happy with it and i did play with it for a couple of weeks or months.
However, the case is, i don really use the apps or install any new app over the past 2 years anymore.
I've used an iphone for a year and I think it's a really great phone. You buy a smartphone because you want to do few other things with it not just for calls or messaging. If we compare both android and iphone, you can basically do the same thing, surfing, emails, watch movies etc so in the end it's just a matter of choice. It's good to have choices so that we can pick the right one according to our preferences.
If I were to choose between an android and an iphone, I would have to consider the hardware features and price of both of them. It's easy for iphone because you only have 1 or 2 options only but for android, you have to do quite some readings.
You cannot simply say android or iphone is better, my understanding on this is if you think android is a better choice, that doesn't mean it's the same case with other people. What people wants is a phone that can do things that they want, if it manages to do it then people will be happy. If not then just get a different phone, and I don't think there is a phone that can do everything, keep in mind that everyone has a different definition on 'everything'
fuyohhhhh .. when ever i teh tariking .... left, right, centre, all iphone ... if i walk up a flight of stairs and split out the window .. most probably .. it will land on an iphone user .... ahahahaha .. therefore i prefer android
all smartphones also have issues wt the connectivity. it's only nerds with nothing else better to do in their own lifes, will continue to be so stressed out and make a mountain out of a mold hill.
apple is for ppl who appreciates style and simplicity. iphone users have better things to do in their life, and dun spend more than necessary time to 'customize' or tinker arnd wt a fone. while for android fones, is mainly for geeks and nerds who gets a high from endless tweaking and trying to be different juz for the sake of being different. in other words, pathetic.
From your point of view, i can see you as a irrational iphone user.
all smartphones also have issues wt the connectivity. it's only nerds with nothing else better to do in their own lifes, will continue to be so stressed out and make a mountain out of a mold hill.
Ever see any other phone company giving out 'rubber bands' to cover up their connectivity issue? On a serious note, each phone serves it's purpose, some prefer the iphone, some prefer Android. Such is life, u can't just make a silly assumption like u did above. Androids are for nerds and iPhone are just for simple minded fools? That's just...... well i'm lost for words.
all smartphones also have issues wt the connectivity. it's only nerds with nothing else better to do in their own lifes, will continue to be so stressed out and make a mountain out of a mold hill.
Go watch this video.. it makes me think of you right now:
it's a statement that suprised me. why wld sumbody need a phone to show off his macho-ness? anyway, let's not go out of topic.
iphone is for users who have better thgs to do in their life other than spending it customizing de fone, changing the colors, icons, etc.
for nerds who want to do all that, thr's android.
it's all abt choices of what u r.
What's more should you expect other than a standard IPhone fanboi favorite quote. IPhone is meant for smartass like these to help them hide their disadvantages.
Get on with your life please. You ain't got anything to say other than that.
Back to the topic, I really wonder if Google ever think to revamp their contact app. I think it really involved way too many steps to get into contact. Even Nokia way of handling calls log, contact is slightly better. Something need to be done fast.
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QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Jul 17 2010, 12:05 AM)
apple is for ppl who appreciates style and simplicity. iphone users have better things to do in their life, and dun spend more than necessary time to 'customize' or tinker arnd wt a fone. while for android fones, is mainly for geeks and nerds who gets a high from endless tweaking and trying to be different juz for the sake of being different. in other words, pathetic.
So you finally decided to dump your style and simplicity iphone and join the geeks and nerds so that you will look different and in other words, pathetic group of people ?
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QUOTE(epool86 @ Jul 17 2010, 08:14 PM)
if you have lot of money and didn't love your money, get an iPhone :-)
meanwhile, i have lot of money as well (just like you), but the only different is i love my money.. that is why i choose Android :-)
I have a friend (multi billionaire) but use normal platform phone only And oh ya. He hates Apple not because he can't afford it. It's because he feel Apple is so yesterday technology
This post has been edited by KTCY: Jul 17 2010, 08:17 PM
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haha that material is posted in LYN long ago... so after u read it then u know there is a lot of Android fanboy over here
every individual has their own needs and own preferences...
what you said is around you la... you are force to buy a lot of things without ur concerns and customization als0, without ur knowledge... eg cars, house... even handphones, the list goes on there is a lot of things u cannot customize
Well, I think not all Iphone owners are fanbois. I do respect Iphone despite Apple being big bully. It spark the big push by Google. It's still a pretty capable OS without doubt. What makes me choose Android is because Google open approach and willingness to incorporate whatever into making it a better experience. Although IPhone still has the better UI, it lacks some of this openess.
haha that material is posted in LYN long ago... so after u read it then u know there is a lot of Android fanboy over here
every individual has their own needs and own preferences...
what you said is around you la... you are force to buy a lot of things without ur concerns and customization als0, without ur knowledge... eg cars, house... even handphones, the list goes on there is a lot of things u cannot customize
i agree....
and there is fanboy everywhere...
for me i just buy things that i wanted.. hahaha..... as i pay for it myself....
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haha... no need to argue with all the stuff as there is pro and cons also so just get Galaxy S hope the samsung will last... as most of my experience is not good at all since 7 yrs ago.... sorry to say i banned samsung products already... cheers...
This post has been edited by michael9413: Jul 17 2010, 10:45 PM
aiyo aiyo so many geeks rise up ady,,,but ppl plz u must remember. dun be afraid or ashamed to admit u r a geek. everybody is different, dat's y de world is such an interesting place;
sum ppl like to customize their cars by add bodykit, squeeze every bhp out of de car. same like android geeks, will get high if changing fonts, icons and den get extra marks in benchmark software.
So you finally decided to dump your style and simplicity iphone and join the geeks and nerds so that you will look different and in other words, pathetic group of people ?
Trade Desire with an iPhone? It should be iPhone+cash.
aiyo aiyo so many geeks rise up ady,,,but ppl plz u must remember. dun be afraid or ashamed to admit u r a geek. everybody is different, dat's y de world is such an interesting place;
sum ppl like to customize their cars by add bodykit, squeeze every bhp out of de car. same like android geeks, will get high if changing fonts, icons and den get extra marks in benchmark software.
but iphone ppl dun do dat mahh..
yup, iphone ppl dun do that, because they can't
anything beats being iphone air-head fanbois, "look my phone can play games!!11!" PSP wannabe.
aiyo aiyo so many geeks rise up ady,,,but ppl plz u must remember. dun be afraid or ashamed to admit u r a geek. everybody is different, dat's y de world is such an interesting place;
sum ppl like to customize their cars by add bodykit, squeeze every bhp out of de car. same like android geeks, will get high if changing fonts, icons and den get extra marks in benchmark software.
aiyo aiyo so many geeks rise up ady,,,but ppl plz u must remember. dun be afraid or ashamed to admit u r a geek. everybody is different, dat's y de world is such an interesting place;
sum ppl like to customize their cars by add bodykit, squeeze every bhp out of de car. same like android geeks, will get high if changing fonts, icons and den get extra marks in benchmark software.
but iphone ppl dun do dat mahh..
I believe now that fanbois are annoying cos they knew very little about the product they are comparing to, and keep repeating the same thing, the JOBS way.
Go do something meaningful dude.. you ain't got anything to brag about. You should just quietly wait for your IPhone 4 to enjoy your Face Time. Oh, please don't brag about it though cos its so yesterday.
What else do you know about Android anyway apart from that and its by Google? You should stop making comments that make you sound like a IPhone lunatic and technology noob. Don't just come here and say stupid thing like you got better things to do but still managed some time here, enough to make yourself sound like idiot tech noob who know nuts about anything.
Apple maybe the pioneer that really jump start the rush of all these interests, still they had done very little to make the next huge step forward. It's just like what Nokia did in the past. Being too restrictive on certain things does turn people away. The only thing I have ever bought from Apple is time capsule and regretted it since. Apple has the right idea but the actual product is disappointing. One, I have to install Apple software to make it work and secondly they don't admit when they put out a junk design which make these product malfunctioning. Not to mention you paid a premium for it. Apple brainwashing works as you can see. Just because their IPhone is works, it helps the sales of other related products.
Anyway, i'm not denying anyone's liberty of choosing whatever device they want. It's their money, who am i to complain, rite?
Please make it clear I'm merely incensed by the some apple fansi snobbish attitude towards anything's non-apple. In cantonese idiomatic expression, a dog looking down on human....
I guess this thread going no where. Am reporting the thread and requesting the mod to lock it up
Just let it be lar.
One Iphone lunatic does not represent the whole Iphone community as idiot. True Iphone owners will appreciate Iphone as well as Android. In a way, I think Android helps them too by forcing Apple to open up access more and more in the future. WiFi teethering would the first thing on their mind.
aiyo aiyo so many geeks rise up ady,,,but ppl plz u must remember. dun be afraid or ashamed to admit u r a geek. everybody is different, dat's y de world is such an interesting place;
sum ppl like to customize their cars by add bodykit, squeeze every bhp out of de car. same like android geeks, will get high if changing fonts, icons and den get extra marks in benchmark software.
but iphone ppl dun do dat mahh..
Tell that to the millions of iPhone users who jailbreak their phones and do custom things such as using a custom telco logo.
I like iPhone too for the nice games they have....
But I like my Magic too for the tweaks that I can do freely....
Now I am only waiting for the 4.3" screen to come out~
exactly, now at least this person understands. dun get me wrong but i'm not running down android, (more than 1 mil sets sold is excellent results). and i admit i'm not techno-geek, juz a simple smartphone user.
is just that users of iphone and android is very very different; and it's good dat we actually do have choice. android is same type like winmo in a certain way. very appealing to geeks and techno-nerds.
apple's iphone has compelled the non techno-geeks and non-nerds to buy smartphones.
exactly, now at least this person understands. dun get me wrong but i'm not running down android, (more than 1 mil sets sold is excellent results). and i admit i'm not techno-geek, juz a simple smartphone user.
is just that users of iphone and android is very very different; and it's good dat we actually do have choice. android is same type like winmo in a certain way. very appealing to geeks and techno-nerds.
apple's iphone has compelled the non techno-geeks and non-nerds to buy smartphones.
Your reply was about to trigger me to reply that iPhone users are "less smart"....
But no, just difference in opinion... Buyer always choose what they are comfortable with, it is their money anyway...
There are some dumbo Android users too, serious. They even ask me "what is root your phone"~ *heck*
No point arguing, soon Android will copy how iPhone (4G) run it multitasking function... It saves hell lot of battery power....
But as always, this is just a forum. Ppl are free to voice their difference in opinion....
No point arguing, soon Android will copy how iPhone (4G) run it multitasking function... It saves hell lot of battery power....
You are not using an Android phone, are you? Then you dont realise whats eating up the battery. Its not multi-tasking. Its something else.
The point is, you guys have no idea what Android is like, all you do is read reviews. Its useless. If reading reviews is useful, I would have bought one long ago instead of two weeks ago.
Although I dont own an Iphone, I have tried it out myself a number of times. The impression is simple. They cut down the steps and make it seamless. I would never thought it work but it did. Thats why its revolutionary. Press a button and it closes the program. Android tried the same approach, the only difference it minimise, instead of closing it.
Hello, wake up please. This is not about modifying icons, font or whatsoever. Please dont come here reply some bullshit and expect people to respect you.
This post has been edited by andrekua: Jul 18 2010, 08:10 PM
exactly, now at least this person understands. dun get me wrong but i'm not running down android, (more than 1 mil sets sold is excellent results). and i admit i'm not techno-geek, juz a simple smartphone user.
is just that users of iphone and android is very very different; and it's good dat we actually do have choice. android is same type like winmo in a certain way. very appealing to geeks and techno-nerds.
apple's iphone has compelled the non techno-geeks and non-nerds to buy smartphones.
1. Currently average 160,000 android phones sold every day (up from 100,000 daily average in early 2010), so how come u said only 1 mil sets sold? 2. Winmo for techno-nerds?.. winmo is the most non-preferable choice for geeks, trust me.
Added on July 18, 2010, 11:06 pm
QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jul 18 2010, 06:54 PM)
No point arguing, soon Android will copy how iPhone (4G) run it multitasking function... It saves hell lot of battery power....
i check my battery usage, 80% - 85% usage is for screen, nothing to do with multitasking.
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I have a touch pro 2 and i've hardspl'ed it.. i have an iphone 3gs, and i've jailbroken it.. i have a Desire.. and i've rooted it... which one is the best? Desire
I have a touch pro 2 and i've hardspl'ed it.. i have an iphone 3gs, and i've jailbroken it.. i have a Desire.. and i've rooted it... which one is the best? Desire
I have a touch pro 2 and i've hardspl'ed it.. i have an iphone 3gs, and i've jailbroken it.. i have a Desire.. and i've rooted it... which one is the best? Desire
I have a htc HD2 ( also hard SPL ), iphone 3GS ( also jailbroken , now 99 % inside drawer rarely used ) and NexusOne ( rooted) : Best - NexusOne, HD2 and last iPhone 3GS. I use the iphone only when I am on flight to listen to audiobooks and view podcasts. All thes phones have their pro n cons.
Which one is better depends on your needs which features appeal you most. For me is now the Nexus, very closely behind HD2 while the iPhone sadly is far behind. IP guys - Don't flame me - is just my personal opinion. But I'd said the new iPhone 4 is very much improved. But the fact it is still a closed system and need to be managed by iTunes is still a turn off for me, but know what - I'll still buy it just to keep myself updated to the latest. Just like the iPAD, even though knowing all its limitations I bought it - it's more of at toy to me as it can never be a substitute for a notebook or netbook.
This post has been edited by benny888: Jul 19 2010, 10:43 AM
You must copy in th embedded codes not URL to display youtube Related to your video ; this article is a good insight into people's behaviour towards their loyalty of gadgets
Seller: "Welcome to Phone Mart! How may I help you?"
Buyer: "Iphone 4! Where is the iphone 4? I need an iphone 4."
Seller: "Oh...I'm very sorry. But, we are currently sold out!.
However, we did finally get some more HTC Evos in."
Buyer: "What.......what is that.....Is it an iPhone?"
Seller: "No, it is that 4G phone on sprint."
Buyer: "If it is not an iphone, what would I want it?"
Seller: "Well, it is similar to an iphone. But, it has a bigger screen."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "The internet speed is around three times faster."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "It has a high resolution camera on both the front and the back."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "And it doesn't require you to be on wifi to use video chat."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "It's battery is replaceable as is the memory card."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "It is highly customizable, everything from the widgets to
the icons, the fonts -- and even has video wallpaper."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "The monthly bill is cheaper."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "It f**king prints money."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "It can grant up to three wishes, even if one of those
wishes is for an iPhone."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "it has an app that builds you an island and then f**king
transforms into a jet and flies you there."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "And, it is Mother f**king indestructable."
Buyer: I don't care about any of that."
Seller: "Ok, fine. then, what the hell entices you about the iphone 4, if you don't mind me asking?"
Buyer: "It isn't an iphone."
Seller: "You do realize that doesn't mean anything. it's a brand.
They could put out a f***ing brick and call it an iPhone if they wanted to."
Buyer: "Yes, but, it's the best phone."
Seller: "Can you explain how?"
Buyer: "I could download apps to it."
Seller: "Big f**king deal. My 8yr old niece's sh*tty boost mobile phone has apps on it."
Buyer: "Its 3G.......and has the WiFis."
seller: "What the ****? Do you even know what that means?"
Buyer: "Um...it can....I....it um..."
Seller: "Listen! I'm out of the god damn iphone anyway. I guess if you find using AT&T shadiest network and don't mind paying out the extra, the plan and the phone and also don't mind having a brand new phone that's already behind the curve then I can put you on our reservation list."
Buyer: "No! I'll just try it somewhere else. I have to have it today."
Seller: "Are you serious? Not only are you so batsh*t stupid that you still want this device you are also so retarded that you think you can just f**king waltz into any store and purchase one on launch day without a pre-order."
Buyer: "Yes!"
Seller: "I think....I think I need to go chop off my own d**k now. Yes....I think I will. I dont need my children growing up in a world populated by dipsh**s like you."
Buyer: "I need an iphone 4."
Seller: "Holy f**k. If you dont leave, Im going to ****ing go find one for you and shove it so far up your ass."
Buyer: "I want the one with the bigger gbs."
Seller: "Oh god...I think I just had an aneurysm. I....I'm dying. Are you happy? Your f****ng stupidity has killed me. Now my goddamn cat is homeless. I'm no longer alive. I'm dead."
Buyer: "I need the white one. Hello, I need one now please. Can you waive the activation fee. Does it come with the case. I also need you to hook up my bluetooth to it. hello! hello! f*** it! I'll go somewhere else. My sister said wal-greens has them." GODDBYE!"
This post has been edited by bingozero: Jul 19 2010, 10:49 AM
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I'm an owner of an iPod touch 2G and a HTC Desire, and I'm so satisfied with the Android now. Playing with real 3GS phones and looking at what iPhone 4 can do, there's really not much deference with my iPod touch. Sure multitasking is in but Android does that. Android plays flash, and tons of customization and modification that you can do, even without rooting. Battery giving a problem? You have an app to handle that, basically you have apps to do almost everything lol. Apple has more apps but android's apps can do more things since Apple restricts a lot of stuff.
Anyway, I use whichever is the better one, and this round imo, Android wins. iPhone 4 is all about pretty stuff, no substance. Please do correct me if I'm wrong though.
Added on July 19, 2010, 11:12 amOhh, don't even let me begin with that retarded syncing and no bluetooth of the iPhone
This post has been edited by Reis: Jul 19 2010, 11:12 AM
Seller: "Welcome to Phone Mart! How may I help you?"
Buyer: "Iphone 4! Where is the iphone 4? I need an iphone 4."
Seller: "Oh...I'm very sorry. But, we are currently sold out!.
However, we did finally get some more HTC Evos in."
Buyer: "What.......what is that.....Is it an iPhone?"
Seller: "No, it is that 4G phone on sprint."
Buyer: "If it is not an iphone, what would I want it?"
Seller: "Well, it is similar to an iphone. But, it has a bigger screen."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "The internet speed is around three times faster."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "It has a high resolution camera on both the front and the back."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "And it doesn't require you to be on wifi to use video chat."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "It's battery is replaceable as is the memory card."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "It is highly customizable, everything from the widgets to
the icons, the fonts -- and even has video wallpaper."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "The monthly bill is cheaper."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "It f**king prints money."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "It can grant up to three wishes, even if one of those
wishes is for an iPhone."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "it has an app that builds you an island and then f**king
transforms into a jet and flies you there."
Buyer: "I don't care."
Seller: "And, it is Mother f**king indestructable."
Buyer: I don't care about any of that."
Seller: "Ok, fine. then, what the hell entices you about the iphone 4, if you don't mind me asking?"
Buyer: "It isn't an iphone."
Seller: "You do realize that doesn't mean anything. it's a brand.
They could put out a f***ing brick and call it an iPhone if they wanted to."
Buyer: "Yes, but, it's the best phone."
Seller: "Can you explain how?"
Buyer: "I could download apps to it."
Seller: "Big f**king deal. My 8yr old niece's sh*tty boost mobile phone has apps on it."
Buyer: "Its 3G.......and has the WiFis."
seller: "What the ****? Do you even know what that means?"
Buyer: "Um...it can....I....it um..."
Seller: "Listen! I'm out of the god damn iphone anyway. I guess if you find using AT&T shadiest network and don't mind paying out the extra, the plan and the phone and also don't mind having a brand new phone that's already behind the curve then I can put you on our reservation list."
Buyer: "No! I'll just try it somewhere else. I have to have it today."
Seller: "Are you serious? Not only are you so batsh*t stupid that you still want this device you are also so retarded that you think you can just f**king waltz into any store and purchase one on launch day without a pre-order."
Buyer: "Yes!"
Seller: "I think....I think I need to go chop off my own d**k now. Yes....I think I will. I dont need my children growing up in a world populated by dipsh**s like you."
Buyer: "I need an iphone 4."
Seller: "Holy f**k. If you dont leave, Im going to ****ing go find one for you and shove it so far up your ass."
Buyer: "I want the one with the bigger gbs."
Seller: "Oh god...I think I just had an aneurysm. I....I'm dying. Are you happy? Your f****ng stupidity has killed me. Now my goddamn cat is homeless. I'm no longer alive. I'm dead."
Buyer: "I need the white one. Hello, I need one now please. Can you waive the activation fee. Does it come with the case. I also need you to hook up my bluetooth to it. hello! hello! f*** it! I'll go somewhere else. My sister said wal-greens has them." GODDBYE!"
waiting for the next htc flagship.. hopefully with a better GPU performance comparable to droid X and SGS. SGS is the best in the market now in malaysia but i just dislike the build quality. Iphone has an awesome build quality but its not ANDROID! haha
waiting for the next htc flagship.. hopefully with a better GPU performance comparable to droid X and SGS. SGS is the best in the market now in malaysia but i just dislike the build quality. Iphone has an awesome build quality but its not ANDROID! haha
HTC DESIRE HD :
-4.3 inch WVGA Touch Screen -8 Megapixel Camera -1 GHZ Qualcomm Processor -Android 2.2 OS -HD 720p Video Capture -Xvid Video Playback -SRS Surround Sound -Automatic Face Tracking -Adobe Flash 10.1 Support -4GB Internal Memory (up to 32GB) -E-book Reader Feature -Unibody Aluminium Design
Google has pulled the plug on the Nexus One, its once highly anticipated smartphone. The last shipment has arrived at Google HQ, and once those are gone there will be no more Nexus Ones for U.S. consumers.
The handset will still be sold through Vodafone in Europe and some Asian carriers, and developers will still be able to get their hands on one, but it looks like the Droid phones on Verizon will carry the mantle for Google's Android mobile operating system. This is the end of the company's grand experiment with an unlocked consumer handset in the U.S.
Following disappointing sales, Google had already closed the Nexus One web store two months ago, so this final nail in the coffin was already overdue.
Google announced the end of the line on its blog on Friday, but there was so little fanfare or interest in the story in the tech scene that the story slipped through the cracks. Though the device was popular with geeks, most American consumers probably just didn't understand the concept of an unlocked handset, and Google didn't put much marketing muscle behind the device.
Thus, it's no surprise that the phone has been discontinued and hardly anyone noticed. It's too bad, actually. It was a fine device; it got even finer with the Android 2.2 update a couple of weeks ago.
This post has been edited by kentang_peranchis: Jul 19 2010, 05:53 PM
Maybe there will be no more nexus 1 after this, but it's going to be collective items and the value will up someday,not like iphone 4 that have antenna problem
aiyo aiyo so many geeks rise up ady,,,but ppl plz u must remember. dun be afraid or ashamed to admit u r a geek. everybody is different, dat's y de world is such an interesting place;
sum ppl like to customize their cars by add bodykit, squeeze every bhp out of de car. same like android geeks, will get high if changing fonts, icons and den get extra marks in benchmark software.
but iphone ppl dun do dat mahh..
cause iphone cant do that...not the iphone fans dont want to..
Added on July 19, 2010, 7:47 pm
QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Jul 19 2010, 05:49 PM)
wonder how an android fancyboy look like...
you dont know android at all...my fren..
This post has been edited by bonanno: Jul 19 2010, 07:47 PM
No, this is even better... if you understand chinese anyway... StAPPLE Wars
Added on July 19, 2010, 10:43 pm
QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Jul 19 2010, 05:49 PM)
wonder how an android fancyboy look like...
Android is not about Nexus One... LOL Its not the end of the show. You are an idiot, you know that...
Even in the beginning, Google aint really into handset business. They got no ideas at all how to make a good handset. True BUT they are very very good with programming which is why they invented Android. On top of that, they got all the creativity to unlock whats can be done on the phone which you usually does on the pc.
Nah, Im not gonna talk about the Iphone anymore. With due respect, despite Jobs' own self acclaimed esteem, Iphone OS remains one of the most polished OS ever which I like, even though I dont own one.
This post has been edited by andrekua: Jul 19 2010, 10:43 PM
The problem with the new iPhone4 are the owners and to-be owner expectations of it. During the keynote address when it was launched, Steve Jobs ( aka God of Apple ) repeatedly says the iPhone4 is the BEST smartphone in the WORLD. He repeated this again in the 16 Jul press conference. He did not say it is one of the best - he said again is the BEST IN THE WORLD
I do not recall any CEO's of other phone makers ever saying such so proudly. So of course, all iPhone4 owners expect the BEST - equates it to PERFECT.
Frankly, I see the issue of the antenna is small issue - just being overblown by the media, some bloggers, anti-Apple chaps and also iPhone supporters.
But Steve Jobs coming out to explain was remarkable but using other phone makers to compare is disgusting and so unprofessional. Since he says iPhone4 is the best in the world - he should not make such comparisons with others. He should instead tell us what steps Apple will take to improve it and maintain his claim ikt to be the BEST in the WORLD. Personally I find that he leaves behind a bitter taste in my mouth after seeing his speech - it was 101 % defence all the way.
But I will still consider buying it when it is officially available here, not that I am a supporter , just I like to try out new gads.
This post has been edited by benny888: Jul 20 2010, 03:31 PM
I kinda agree the Iphone is the best smartphone in the world right now. Steve is a damn arrogant but an Iphone 4 + Itunes App Market = best smartphone which is true.
However, I dont need the best smartphone. I need the most flexible smartphone. Android is the answer. LOL... I would truly consider Iphone when Steve admit that he farked up with Flash.
Honestly those spec are very logical indeed and great. But indeed we want more gpu horsepawwa, better battery, front camera and a better camera sensor.
i just went to maxis exlusive partner to try out the iphone, i dont know why i got bored and i terus pay deposit for DEsire. Now cant wait for it to arrive...
Someone pasted article about NexusOne being discontinued and tried to say Android failed? From where they are coming from, I can clearly see the insecurity. Let's say Apple didn't continue on Iphone, it will just die.
Here's the difference in Android. You see different manufacturers coming out with varying specs and different pricing that can cater to nearly all income groups. You can get a 1K Android or a 3K Android, up to you.
Nexus One was Google's flagship product two years ago (iirc) to signal the intent of Google's support towards it's Android platform to boost market confidence. Back then in the time where Android was still in it's early stages and only hardcore fans following. It's no longer the case now. Acceptance for Android grew and there are tons of Android phones to chose from now.
Someone pasted article about NexusOne being discontinued and tried to say Android failed? From where they are coming from, I can clearly see the insecurity. Let's say Apple didn't continue on Iphone, it will just die.
Here's the difference in Android. You see different manufacturers coming out with varying specs and different pricing that can cater to nearly all income groups. You can get a 1K Android or a 3K Android, up to you.
Nexus One was Google's flagship product two years ago (iirc) to signal the intent of Google's support towards it's Android platform to boost market confidence. Back then in the time where Android was still in it's early stages and only hardcore fans following. It's no longer the case now. Acceptance for Android grew and there are tons of Android phones to chose from now.
The nexus one is released to show that even google can make phones and have consistent software update to it plus supporting it. The nexus one also acts as a benchmark so that hopefully other manufacturer could continue on creating better android devices. I honestly see that nexus one is a developer phone now and not so fancy for me. But i respect that even a developer phone has a good hardware and flexability. Open-ness is the key of nexus one, sadly now we see that motorola is going un-open on the droidX
Someone pasted article about NexusOne being discontinued and tried to say Android failed? From where they are coming from, I can clearly see the insecurity. Let's say Apple didn't continue on Iphone, it will just die.
Here's the difference in Android. You see different manufacturers coming out with varying specs and different pricing that can cater to nearly all income groups. You can get a 1K Android or a 3K Android, up to you.
Nexus One was Google's flagship product two years ago (iirc) to signal the intent of Google's support towards it's Android platform to boost market confidence. Back then in the time where Android was still in it's early stages and only hardcore fans following. It's no longer the case now. Acceptance for Android grew and there are tons of Android phones to chose from now.
Actually the Nexus One started selling in January 2010.. And it's not discontinued at all.. Google just decided to shut down it's online store.. the Nexus One will continue to be around
And I agree that Android has grown to such proportion that even without the Nexus One, it will still continue to grow as there are so many excellent Android devices in the market now..
I kinda agree the Iphone is the best smartphone in the world right now. Steve is a damn arrogant but an Iphone 4 + Itunes App Market = best smartphone which is true.
However, I dont need the best smartphone. I need the most flexible smartphone. Android is the answer. LOL... I would truly consider Iphone when Steve admit that he farked up with Flash.
Well said. I like your word " Flexible smartphone"
yes the good thing about android is the choice. u can pick any android phones according to your budget and your liking. and with several manufactures competing with each other, new phones will come sooner when we compare with 1-year cycle of iphone.
anyway, there will always be the appeal for apple stuff, as usual.
My friend bought an 3GS for 2600 half years ago... when I just show him the Friendstream/Peep App widget thingy on my Desire homescreen....he goes like....."WOW....cydia doesn't have this"
yes the good thing about android is the choice. u can pick any android phones according to your budget and your liking. and with several manufactures competing with each other, new phones will come sooner when we compare with 1-year cycle of iphone.
anyway, there will always be the appeal for apple stuff, as usual.
Choice, yes bcos it's open platform. But very unfortunately, no android maker can match apple in design. Besides, android kenot match iOS in ease of user friendly, wide practical use.
So even tho it seems got more choice, but each choice must compromise or sacrifice sumthg. If sumhow samsung galaxy screen combine wt htc sense combine wt milestone phonecall clarity combine wt xxx sunlight legibility combine wt xxx app store, den maybe can give iPhone a bit of challenge.
This post has been edited by kentang_peranchis: Jul 22 2010, 11:41 PM
Choice, yes bcos it's open platform. But very unfortunately, no android maker can match apple in design. ..<and other texts>...
Design, eh? I'll put the 'you-must-hold-iphone4-differently' LOL design aside for now. Check out the drop tests found in Youtube. First video is Iphone4 dropped at waist height and the second video is HTC Legend tossed 5-6 feet from waist height.
Iphone4 drop test
HTC Legend drop test
Iphone4 screen is shattered, Legend screen is not. What I'm trying to point out is not Iphone4 is a bad phone, it's the attitude of fanboys projecting their phones as the all mighty invincible phone
edit:fix youtube links
This post has been edited by ashburn98: Jul 23 2010, 12:21 AM
Choice, yes bcos it's open platform. But very unfortunately, no android maker can match apple in design. Besides, android kenot match iOS in ease of user friendly, wide practical use.
So even tho it seems got more choice, but each choice must compromise or sacrifice sumthg. If sumhow samsung galaxy screen combine wt htc sense combine wt milestone phonecall clarity combine wt xxx sunlight legibility combine wt xxx app store, den maybe can give iPhone a bit of challenge.
seriously i hope u better dun post it up..or at least provide source for your statement this place is not suitable to u,fanboy...
p/s: r u working with apple or lick apple's boots?
seriously i hope u better dun post it up..or at least provide source for your statement this place is not suitable to u,fanboy... p/s: r u working with apple or lick apple's boots?
This kentang chap has been posting his comments attacking android in several topics at these android forums. I guess must be his interest and hobby. I respect his admiration for the iPhone but this does not necessary everyone must follow his opinion.
My advise just ignore him. It's already ingrained in his mind iphone is the better choice, so let it be. I also have an iphone 3Gs and I have consistently rate it last versus my nexus and HD2 but I do not condemn people using it. Perhaps he love the apps store/the games etc or multimedia features which are iphone strong points. Everyone of us has our own requirements and needs - and the best phone is your own choice ; let no one affect you
iphone has created a symbol or status of its own. It is more to form and fit rather than function. The symbol or status had made it self like a religion. Very hard to convert. This is a very successful marketing. Is like Toyota until the recent recall which really hurt their brand. It will take more than just functionality or antenna issue to impact the branding of apple image.
this symbol has affected the world due to the apple brand. Is like people owning LV or COACH bag, they all works like ordinary bags, but it is the symbol and status that count. So apple fanbois doesnt really care what doesn't work, or how many times it hang, or whether the battery last or not. For them, is as per design and is ok to be different to the rest of the world. But, you may say they discussed those issue in their forum arent those a problem? Well they are, but the symbol of status suppress every single issues this things carries. It used to carry special or different kind of functionality like those pinch effect of flip flop pages of apps... but is common now among android and even symbian 3 etc etc. But, iphone started it...
For me, any android phones is very capable of delivering great capabilities even a simple file transfer via bluetooth which iphone still stick with their principle. It can get many free appps and great games too. But is just an OS for mobiles. Even MS start to get worry with Android because it eating share on tablets and soon web PC.
In the end, none of the android phones will win. HTC has made a great moved to run Android largely in US market. until this brand move it self up to a great religion like iphone, it will just be another android phones.
But, the recent hoo haa in US on Androids phones like HTC Evo, Droid X, Samsung Galaxy S has created or advertised it self to the apple owners that there is a new thing out there. Some jump into the wagon to be early and some still hasitate to convert. Those who realize the capability, enjoy the new Evo and let their Iphone become a game box. But the growing numbers of androids enable daily worries apple. The recent quality issues I read in the net has lot of relation to get it into market 1st before the android army start flooding the market. A very smart moved by apple.
Till then, I dont care if people see me carry a SE or a HTC, I just enjoy an android very much and my x10 mini works like wonder to me. My brothers who owns Iphone 3GS hasitate to compare functionality with me know my camera is better, I got really great 3D games, my GPS works well..... and the list goes on. I wonder why? It start to make the 3GS look sooo errrrmmm CHEAP?? maybe.... I dont know.
Choice, yes bcos it's open platform. But very unfortunately, no android maker can match apple in design. Besides, android kenot match iOS in ease of user friendly, wide practical use.
So even tho it seems got more choice, but each choice must compromise or sacrifice sumthg. If sumhow samsung galaxy screen combine wt htc sense combine wt milestone phonecall clarity combine wt xxx sunlight legibility combine wt xxx app store, den maybe can give iPhone a bit of challenge.
Thats why I asked you guys to stay away from him... and of course his small Apple fanbois universe. He cant even construct a sentence that would be easy to understood, let alone debating unique features of Android vs the simplicity of Iphone. He will keep on bragging about something then deny it, then focus on another thing and then another denial.
I just cannot stop laughing my ass reading the final paragraph.
At first, you got choices and then you must compromise and sacrifice. But later, you want the best screen, better UI, better clarity, better sunlight readability (whats legibility anyway, i need to install dictionary) and huge, very huge app store. What happened to the compromise and sacrifice? I bet its our wallet then.
LOL... I dont usually dig at Iphone owners but this dicky fanbois needed to be crucify to reduce the fanboism in the Iphone community.
I only have 5800XM (with Android UI because it looks awesome nd functions better. LOL) and plan to get Android as my next phone. Preferably next year when gingerbread is released.
I only have 5800XM (with Android UI because it looks awesome nd functions better. LOL) and plan to get Android as my next phone. Preferably next year when gingerbread is released.
Incidentally, my last previous phone is also 5800xm. I got Legend after a conscious decision to be updated with the new wave (Android). RM1000 was all I can afford to fork out for a new phone and Digi promo at that time was at the peak. Luckily my mom got to inherit the 5800xm.
My next phone would be in about 18 months and around RM2000. At current rate, I won't be settling for anything less than 4.3" by then.
well apple fans will maybe always be apple fans but iphone for me is a no no.. well apple can really make good products like the imac and macbook pro.. i have a imac 10 yrs ago and its still functioning until now.. without even needing a service or repair so...
phones? hmm maybe other brands computer? yup mac is the best for me..
phone os? android ruling computer os? windows ruling
previously using iphone switched to bb & lastly switched to android. overall i can say i made the right choice. but if you r toward business phone bb is the best, because of its true push email/data.
btw, for computer os i think mac os rules! no way im using windows.
Taylor n hnr : Same scenario - desktop MAC , i use windows only when I need it to flash my HD2. Had been on Mac several years and I always exhort to everyone I know, if you decide to buy a new desktop/notebook, buy MAC. Once you use a MAC you will NEVER want to use Windows OS anymore. Smartphones - iPhone is good but it cannot meet my requirements ; for these the Nexus is tops follow by HD2. I use the iphone to listen to audiobooks and watch video podcasts when on flights; really underutilized
I got a HTC Desire, IMO it's no where near the popularity and coolness of iPhone, the battery life isn't that great too. The main reason why I went for Android because it's cheap and suitable for poor people like me
Anyway, I'm still happy with it
This post has been edited by samurai1337: Jul 24 2010, 02:27 PM
I got a HTC Desire, IMO it's no where near the popularity and coolness of iPhone, the battery life isn't that great too. The main reason why I went for Android because it's cheap and suitable for poor people like me
Anyway, I'm still happy with it
Give it some time. Then the coolness factor will kick in.
Give it some time. Then the coolness factor will kick in.
Well yeah, I never dispute about the good OS. It's the general impressions that make Apple cooler. I was making decision between iPhone 4 and HTC Desire but I was just too lazy to wait and I can save some bucks by going for Desire.
I enjoy the convenience of having the device to sync all my mails and calendar (GMail and office e-mail), RSS feeds, twitter and facebook updates, weather, chat anytime I want via GTalk or MSN Talk, and surfing the web on a 480*800 3.7" screen. But many just won't understand, because they think: - HTC stable meh? Always hang one wor (bad experience with Diamond and WinMo I guess) - Android can play games meh? - Seems like Android don't have that many apps right? - Android good meh? Still new, sure very unstable hor
But anyway, not that I care The only problems I have so far are:
- Battery life could be better, hopefully a Froyo update can improve this somehow (don't tell me not to sync emails / turn off mobile data etc, because I think it defeats the purpose of the device)
- Slow updates from HTC - froyo has been there for some time but I'm still stuck with 2.1. They seem to be interested in making new devices rather than supporting existing devices. Sure we can root the device or go for custom ROM, but I still prefer official ones
Well yeah, I never dispute about the good OS. It's the general impressions that make Apple cooler. I was making decision between iPhone 4 and HTC Desire but I was just too lazy to wait and I can save some bucks by going for Desire.
I enjoy the convenience of having the device to sync all my mails and calendar (GMail and office e-mail), RSS feeds, twitter and facebook updates, weather, chat anytime I want via GTalk or MSN Talk, and surfing the web on a 480*800 3.7" screen. But many just won't understand, because they think: - HTC stable meh? Always hang one wor (bad experience with Diamond and WinMo I guess) - Android can play games meh? - Seems like Android don't have that many apps right? - Android good meh? Still new, sure very unstable hor
But anyway, not that I care The only problems I have so far are:
- Battery life could be better, hopefully a Froyo update can improve this somehow (don't tell me not to sync emails / turn off mobile data etc, because I think it defeats the purpose of the device)
- Slow updates from HTC - froyo has been there for some time but I'm still stuck with 2.1. They seem to be interested in making new devices rather than supporting existing devices. Sure we can root the device or go for custom ROM, but I still prefer official ones
You can blame lack of progress because HTC got so many products tied to Android and yet each of them is on different platform which required different programming. All the while they still need to develop new firmware for the newer phone as well.
HTC has a big appetite for market share but they lack the numbers in respective department which deals with the firmware.
Compared to HTC, Apple has a lot less work to do because they only have Iphone to deal with. Thats also the reason when they work, it simply just work cos there is no need to adapt to other platform. Thats why Apple dictatorship is well accepted despite a few shortcomings.
Taylor n hnr : Same scenario - desktop MAC , i use windows only when I need it to flash my HD2. Had been on Mac several years and I always exhort to everyone I know, if you decide to buy a new desktop/notebook, buy MAC. Once you use a MAC you will NEVER want to use Windows OS anymore. Smartphones - iPhone is good but it cannot meet my requirements ; for these the Nexus is tops follow by HD2. I use the iphone to listen to audiobooks and watch video podcasts when on flights; really underutilized
+1 once use mac, windows seems like for small kids.. haha.. no offence but its just windows are more simplified.. Nexus.. or desire for me i think..
Well yeah, I never dispute about the good OS. It's the general impressions that make Apple cooler. I was making decision between iPhone 4 and HTC Desire but I was just too lazy to wait and I can save some bucks by going for Desire.
I enjoy the convenience of having the device to sync all my mails and calendar (GMail and office e-mail), RSS feeds, twitter and facebook updates, weather, chat anytime I want via GTalk or MSN Talk, and surfing the web on a 480*800 3.7" screen. But many just won't understand, because they think: - HTC stable meh? Always hang one wor (bad experience with Diamond and WinMo I guess) - Android can play games meh? - Seems like Android don't have that many apps right? - Android good meh? Still new, sure very unstable hor
But anyway, not that I care The only problems I have so far are:
- Battery life could be better, hopefully a Froyo update can improve this somehow (don't tell me not to sync emails / turn off mobile data etc, because I think it defeats the purpose of the device)
- Slow updates from HTC - froyo has been there for some time but I'm still stuck with 2.1. They seem to be interested in making new devices rather than supporting existing devices. Sure we can root the device or go for custom ROM, but I still prefer official ones
Try bump charging your battery, see if that helps. Mine works so much better after I did that. I posted instructions here (just ignore the wipe battery stats part):- http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1493150
Taylor n hnr : Same scenario - desktop MAC , i use windows only when I need it to flash my HD2. Had been on Mac several years and I always exhort to everyone I know, if you decide to buy a new desktop/notebook, buy MAC. Once you use a MAC you will NEVER want to use Windows OS anymore. Smartphones - iPhone is good but it cannot meet my requirements ; for these the Nexus is tops follow by HD2. I use the iphone to listen to audiobooks and watch video podcasts when on flights; really underutilized
same here i bought a windows netbook especially for flashing firmware on my phone whether it is blackberry or android. both of this mobile os only have windows version firmware flashing software.
Try bump charging your battery, see if that helps. Mine works so much better after I did that. I posted instructions here (just ignore the wipe battery stats part):- http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1493150
Is the bump charging step to be repeated every time you want to charge, or it's a one off task?
Choice, yes bcos it's open platform. But very unfortunately, no android maker can match apple in design. Besides, android kenot match iOS in ease of user friendly, wide practical use.
So even tho it seems got more choice, but each choice must compromise or sacrifice sumthg. If sumhow samsung galaxy screen combine wt htc sense combine wt milestone phonecall clarity combine wt xxx sunlight legibility combine wt xxx app store, den maybe can give iPhone a bit of challenge.
haaaa... joke of the day...i hope you not represent all Iphone fancy boys.. i wonder how old are you? no offend...you need a doctor...
Added on July 24, 2010, 8:32 pm
QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Jul 24 2010, 06:14 PM)
Is the bump charging step to be repeated every time you want to charge, or it's a one off task?
bro..my hero running Froyo..and the battery life much much better than Eclair 2.1 ...you should root your phone too...
Added on July 24, 2010, 8:34 pmHero user..Feeyo's froyo rom has released.... glad to see now all Dev are focus on froyo...
I missed RaduG....
This post has been edited by bonanno: Jul 24 2010, 08:34 PM
The media really, really, really loves to write about Apple and the iPhone these days. It reminds me of Google in 2004, when the media fell in love with the concept of search.
Besides the antennae story, which I find hopelessly over reported, the latest iPhone rhapsody has been how many iPhone 4s Apple has sold - apparently, 3 million as of last Friday. Friday was July 16th. The iPhone 4 launched on June 24, so that'd be 23 days to reach the 3 million mark.
3 million phones in 23 days - that's a pretty strong clip, the fastest sales of an Apple phone to date, Mashable reports. If I do the math, that's more than 130,000 phones a day.
But did anyone in the press notice Google's little announcement, the day before Apple launched its iPhone 4? This one? The one where Google said, and I quote:
"Every day 160,000 Android-powered devices are activated -- that’s nearly two devices every second."
Yep, that'd be 30K MORE phones a day than Apple. And my guess is that Android's pace is accelerating, while the iPhone 4 is probably sliding downward, given how many folks bought it at launch (Mashable reports that 1.7 million were sold in first three days, so 1.3 million the next 20 days). In fact, if you do THAT math, and divide 1.3 million by 20 days, you get 65,000 iPhone 4s sold each day, which is nearly 100,000 less, PER DAY, than Android phones.
Is that story anywhere in the press? Not that I see.
As far as I can tell, Android-based phones will far outnumber any other smart phone by year's end. Apple, meet your new Windows. It's name is Android.
The media really, really, really loves to write about Apple and the iPhone these days. It reminds me of Google in 2004, when the media fell in love with the concept of search.
Besides the antennae story, which I find hopelessly over reported, the latest iPhone rhapsody has been how many iPhone 4s Apple has sold - apparently, 3 million as of last Friday. Friday was July 16th. The iPhone 4 launched on June 24, so that'd be 23 days to reach the 3 million mark.
3 million phones in 23 days - that's a pretty strong clip, the fastest sales of an Apple phone to date, Mashable reports. If I do the math, that's more than 130,000 phones a day.
But did anyone in the press notice Google's little announcement, the day before Apple launched its iPhone 4? This one? The one where Google said, and I quote:
"Every day 160,000 Android-powered devices are activated -- that’s nearly two devices every second." Yep, that'd be 30K MORE phones a day than Apple. And my guess is that Android's pace is accelerating, while the iPhone 4 is probably sliding downward, given how many folks bought it at launch (Mashable reports that 1.7 million were sold in first three days, so 1.3 million the next 20 days). In fact, if you do THAT math, and divide 1.3 million by 20 days, you get 65,000 iPhone 4s sold each day, which is nearly 100,000 less, PER DAY, than Android phones.
Is that story anywhere in the press? Not that I see.
As far as I can tell, Android-based phones will far outnumber any other smart phone by year's end. Apple, meet your new Windows. It's name is Android.
wow bro u always have good info.. +1 for u.. i think apple rules in one category which is the mobile music category with their ipods series.. so far no others can match their ipod.. in pc world windows still remain as the leader.. in the phone os world android will be top in a few years time..
wow bro u always have good info.. +1 for u.. i think apple rules in one category which is the mobile music category with their ipods series.. so far no others can match their ipod.. in pc world windows still remain as the leader.. in the phone os world android will be top in a few years time..
android will be top in few years time if only google keep their hardwork on it.. Im now worrying google might shut off this project as they had announced of discontinued of nexus one
This post has been edited by linuss: Jul 24 2010, 11:52 PM
android will be top in few years time if only google keep their hardwork on it.. Im now worrying google might shut off this project as they had announced of discontinued of nexus one
they nvr discontinued the nexus one lar..they just close the web store..thats it.. still can get it from vodafone and other online stores
I believe in the future the iphone will have the same fate as other apple products, with less users once android has matured enough and phone manufacturers managed to provide an exact hardware spec the iphone offers, with the same or lower prices. Unless apple manages to comes out with another revolutionary idea once again.
people nowdays love to "control"... i have to admits im a control freak...
i love to optimize my expensive toy...and fully control its...
Added on July 25, 2010, 12:12 am
QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 24 2010, 10:59 PM)
The media really, really, really loves to write about Apple and the iPhone these days. It reminds me of Google in 2004, when the media fell in love with the concept of search.
Besides the antennae story, which I find hopelessly over reported, the latest iPhone rhapsody has been how many iPhone 4s Apple has sold - apparently, 3 million as of last Friday. Friday was July 16th. The iPhone 4 launched on June 24, so that'd be 23 days to reach the 3 million mark.
3 million phones in 23 days - that's a pretty strong clip, the fastest sales of an Apple phone to date, Mashable reports. If I do the math, that's more than 130,000 phones a day.
But did anyone in the press notice Google's little announcement, the day before Apple launched its iPhone 4? This one? The one where Google said, and I quote:
"Every day 160,000 Android-powered devices are activated -- that’s nearly two devices every second." Yep, that'd be 30K MORE phones a day than Apple. And my guess is that Android's pace is accelerating, while the iPhone 4 is probably sliding downward, given how many folks bought it at launch (Mashable reports that 1.7 million were sold in first three days, so 1.3 million the next 20 days). In fact, if you do THAT math, and divide 1.3 million by 20 days, you get 65,000 iPhone 4s sold each day, which is nearly 100,000 less, PER DAY, than Android phones.
Is that story anywhere in the press? Not that I see.
As far as I can tell, Android-based phones will far outnumber any other smart phone by year's end. Apple, meet your new Windows. It's name is Android.
The media really, really, really loves to write about Apple and the iPhone these days. It reminds me of Google in 2004, when the media fell in love with the concept of search.
Besides the antennae story, which I find hopelessly over reported, the latest iPhone rhapsody has been how many iPhone 4s Apple has sold - apparently, 3 million as of last Friday. Friday was July 16th. The iPhone 4 launched on June 24, so that'd be 23 days to reach the 3 million mark.
3 million phones in 23 days - that's a pretty strong clip, the fastest sales of an Apple phone to date, Mashable reports. If I do the math, that's more than 130,000 phones a day.
But did anyone in the press notice Google's little announcement, the day before Apple launched its iPhone 4? This one? The one where Google said, and I quote:
"Every day 160,000 Android-powered devices are activated -- that’s nearly two devices every second." Yep, that'd be 30K MORE phones a day than Apple. And my guess is that Android's pace is accelerating, while the iPhone 4 is probably sliding downward, given how many folks bought it at launch (Mashable reports that 1.7 million were sold in first three days, so 1.3 million the next 20 days). In fact, if you do THAT math, and divide 1.3 million by 20 days, you get 65,000 iPhone 4s sold each day, which is nearly 100,000 less, PER DAY, than Android phones.
Is that story anywhere in the press? Not that I see.
As far as I can tell, Android-based phones will far outnumber any other smart phone by year's end. Apple, meet your new Windows. It's name is Android.
For the first time, Apple really met new challenges for its cool Iphone. I think the next generation gonna be interesting. It was caught out by the pace of Android but I think they will response.
i also hope android can survive if it becomes better and gives more to normal users rather than juz techno-nerds. the reason why android can born is solely bcos apple changed the world with the introduction of iPhone. without iphone, geeks and nerds now wld only get to play with windows mobile.
unfortunately so far, android still unable to match apple's iOS masterpiece even though it was a seed of apple.
for the normal user who has better and more important thgs to do other than juz playing with fone, then once u've used the iphone, the only reason u will switch phones is bcoz u wanna go back to buttons fone.
This post has been edited by kentang_peranchis: Jul 25 2010, 01:02 AM
i also hope android can survive if it becomes better and gives more to normal users rather than juz techno-nerds. the reason why android can born is solely bcos apple changed the world with the introduction of iPhone. without iphone, geeks and nerds now wld only get to play with windows mobile.
unfortunately so far, android still unable to match apple's iOS masterpiece even though it was a seed of apple.
for the normal user who has better and more important thgs to do other than juz playing with fone, then once u've used the iphone, the only reason u will switch phones is bcoz u wanna go back to buttons fone.
i also hope android can survive if it becomes better and gives more to normal users rather than juz techno-nerds. the reason why android can born is solely bcos apple changed the world with the introduction of iPhone. without iphone, geeks and nerds now wld only get to play with windows mobile.
unfortunately so far, android still unable to match apple's iOS masterpiece even though it was a seed of apple.
for the normal user who has better and more important thgs to do other than juz playing with fone, then once u've used the iphone, the only reason u will switch phones is bcoz u wanna go back to buttons fone.
not Apple change the world...is NETWORK infrastructure change the whole communication way... dont you see why smartphone cant be hot in last 10 years...its due to the infra did not meet up the device...
I have to agreed that IOS is very fine platform..but do you think Iphone can be success in 2000 without the 3G infra? think about that..
i also hope android can survive if it becomes better and gives more to normal users rather than juz techno-nerds. the reason why android can born is solely bcos apple changed the world with the introduction of iPhone. without iphone, geeks and nerds now wld only get to play with windows mobile.
unfortunately so far, android still unable to match apple's iOS masterpiece even though it was a seed of apple.
for the normal user who has better and more important thgs to do other than juz playing with fone, then once u've used the iphone, the only reason u will switch phones is bcoz u wanna go back to buttons fone.
i soo do not agree with you.r u trolling? hahaha have u used an android phone so far? i personally think its better. and as far as i know..i am not a geek or nerd. many android phones also dont have button am i wrong? btw..i guess having a qwerty would not do any harm.
haha..if u dont want to play with your phone. dont use iphone.haha
This post has been edited by kalerfool: Jul 25 2010, 01:53 AM
i also hope android can survive if it becomes better and gives more to normal users rather than juz techno-nerds. the reason why android can born is solely bcos apple changed the world with the introduction of iPhone. without iphone, geeks and nerds now wld only get to play with windows mobile.
unfortunately so far, android still unable to match apple's iOS masterpiece even though it was a seed of apple.
for the normal user who has better and more important thgs to do other than juz playing with fone, then once u've used the iphone, the only reason u will switch phones is bcoz u wanna go back to buttons fone.
Isn't that what most iphone users do with their phone? Just playing games n stuffs on their phone instead of doing anything important or work related.
Isn't that what most iphone users do with their phone? Just playing games n stuffs on their phone instead of doing anything important or work related.
haa..good point.. im not in best position to judge coz im never own an iphone.. but some of my frens with iphone do..they always shows me how cool of the new games they had.. Then they will shut up when i shows them my PSP... kekee ..then i asked : can your iPhone play god of war?? heheee...
see now fact is Iphone has become 'brands'..just like LV..COACH..Blurberry.. coz everyone own it..if you dont have one..means you are outdated...
What i cant tahan is they always b****ing around...
i also hope android can survive if it becomes better and gives more to normal users rather than juz techno-nerds. the reason why android can born is solely bcos apple changed the world with the introduction of iPhone. without iphone, geeks and nerds now wld only get to play with windows mobile.
unfortunately so far, android still unable to match apple's iOS masterpiece even though it was a seed of apple.
for the normal user who has better and more important thgs to do other than juz playing with fone, then once u've used the iphone, the only reason u will switch phones is bcoz u wanna go back to buttons fone.
man,i wish i can drag u to iphone forum and show them what have u wrote at here..i think they will feel embarrassing with ur post(including me who owned iphone)...
OK GUYS , FIRST OF ALL , IPHONE IS NOT A SMARTPHONE BY ITSELF, WHY DO I SAY THIS ? REASON : LOOK AT IPOD TOUCH, DO YOU SEE THE SIMILARITY IN IT WITH THE IPHONE , ANSWER : YES ! , APPLE SIMPLY ADDED THE CALL FUNCTION INTO IPOD TOUCH AND CALL IT IPHONE. DUDE , YOU CANT COMPARE ANDROID SMARTPHONES WITH A HYBRID MP3 PLAYER THAT CAN CALL OUT, ARE YOU OUTTA YOUR MIND ? XD
i also hope android can survive if it becomes better and gives more to normal users rather than juz techno-nerds. the reason why android can born is solely bcos apple changed the world with the introduction of iPhone. without iphone, geeks and nerds now wld only get to play with windows mobile.
unfortunately so far, android still unable to match apple's iOS masterpiece even though it was a seed of apple.
for the normal user who has better and more important thgs to do other than juz playing with fone, then once u've used the iphone, the only reason u will switch phones is bcoz u wanna go back to buttons fone.
On 20 May 2010 the 2.2 (Froyo) SDK was released.[2] Changes included:[47]
General Android OS speed, memory, and performance optimizations Additional application speed improvements courtesy of JIT implementation Integration of Chrome's V8 JavaScript engine into the Browser application Increased Microsoft Exchange support (security policies, auto-discovery, GAL look-up, calendar synchronization, remote wipe) Improved application launcher with shortcuts to Phone and Browser applications USB tethering and WiFi hotspot functionality Added an option to disable data access over mobile network Updated Market application with batch and automatic update features Quick switching between multiple keyboard languages and their dictionaries Voice dialing and contact sharing over Bluetooth Support for numeric and alphanumeric passwords Support for file upload fields in the Browser application Support for installing applications to the expandable memory Adobe Flash 10.1 support
Look at the list above, Apple iOS 4 does none of it as of today.
ROTFL! +1 n u rox Even older phone like Nexus One still does better than iPhone 4 does bit.ly/beJydn It really looks juicy. but most interestingly is the display to me. the Super AMOLED. gorgeous
super amoled cannot be compared to retina display. this is power of apple. they focus on the things customers really want. and make what's important to users the best in the industry.
not Apple change the world...is NETWORK infrastructure change the whole communication way... dont you see why smartphone cant be hot in last 10 years...its due to the infra did not meet up the device...
I have to agreed that IOS is very fine platform..but do you think Iphone can be success in 2000 without the 3G infra? think about that..
What i do respect Apple is their marketing...
iPhone did some good job not only in marketing, but design of the revolutionary touch screen as well.
3G technology was there since some time ago, Maxis introduced it since 2005 - but the problems is technology wasn't that advanced and although phones like Nokia N70 supported 3G, the device couldn't make best use of the technology and the coverage was pretty limited. WinMo back then was really limited to hardcore "business users" and to be frank the OS wasn't that stable
Credits to Apple for for being innovative and makes mobile data activities practical, but some ignorant iPhone users tend to think Apple "invented" a lot of stuffs such as those apps and games, push emails notification etc - a credit that developers , network and cheap labors in China should take instead.
Android came late in the market, and it's only normal for those people to think that Google is copying all the stuffs that Apple "invented", which is not 100% right
This post has been edited by samurai1337: Jul 25 2010, 07:36 PM
super amoled cannot be compared to retina display. this is power of apple. they focus on the things customers really want. and make what's important to users the best in the industry.
this is the real power of Apple http://bit.ly/azveYi. by no mean i hate apple, i own ipod nano, iphone 3g, iphone 3gs. But im now only happy with my Nexus One. Try 1st bro. Then only say power of Apple. lmao
I own iphone 2g and 3g before, I wanted a flash with the camera but apple never made it only after 2 years later. Oh and I also want flash in the browser but.. you know what happened.
i have use 3 windows mobile phone, LG 3D ui and a iphone. now i owning android( just bought yesterday) what i would say is android has more freedon and alot website offering free apps. and u can learn to make one from utube. i also download eclipse and android sdk try to make one.
my sis own a iphone 3gs and i owe a android phone(htc desire) btw...each phone got their own advantage..iphone are nice is entertainment and the UI is so boring...while android phone can let u tweek alot of thing..and u feel feel alive when using it..just my senses
i have use 3 windows mobile phone, LG 3D ui and a iphone. now i owning android( just bought yesterday) what i would say is android has more freedon and alot website offering free apps. and u can learn to make one from utube. i also download eclipse and android sdk try to make one.
iphone nothing u can tweek
dat's the whole point. android can be tweaked, which drives the geeks and nerds crazy with estacy. but normal ppl won't be bothered.
normal ppl use the phone for easy, beauty.
even until now, no body and not even the android nerds can get the touch keyboard perfectly right like apple does. there is a app for every need possible.
so if u wanna get touchphone, makes no sense to get anythg other than iphone right?
my sis own a iphone 3gs and i owe a android phone(htc desire) btw...each phone got their own advantage..iphone are nice is entertainment and the UI is so boring...while android phone can let u tweek alot of thing..and u feel feel alive when using it..just my senses
this is example of typical android user. pls dun get me wrong,nerds/geeks is useful to solve some techno problems once in a while. and they will be extreme happiness if u ask them question especially if abt techiestuff.
Added on July 25, 2010, 10:32 pm
QUOTE(cleave @ Jul 25 2010, 10:31 PM)
We dont use touch keyboard. That is so yesterday. We swype.
ooops. sorry din realise dats the new geek word of de day.
This post has been edited by kentang_peranchis: Jul 25 2010, 10:32 PM
dat's the whole point. android can be tweaked, which drives the geeks and nerds crazy with estacy. but normal ppl won't be bothered.
normal ppl use the phone for easy, beauty.
even until now, no body and not even the android nerds can get the touch keyboard perfectly right like apple does. there is a app for every need possible.
so if u wanna get touchphone, makes no sense to get anythg other than iphone right?
No la, I think iPhone ppl used it for the hype...and nothing else. My wife use it for the game...
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QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Jul 25 2010, 10:31 PM)
this is example of typical android user. pls dun get me wrong,nerds/geeks is useful to solve some techno problems once in a while. and they will be extreme happiness if u ask them question especially if abt techiestuff.
Added on July 25, 2010, 10:32 pm
ooops. sorry din realise dats the new geek word of de day.
I don't see anything wrong with Android keyboard... I don't swype, I use the stock keyboard but I type without problem. In fact, I tried swiftkey and swype but still prefer the Android stock keyboard
So is that only what nerds can do but not general public?
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QUOTE(samurai1337 @ Jul 25 2010, 10:41 PM)
I don't see anything wrong with Android keyboard... I don't swype, I use the stock keyboard but I type without problem. In fact, I tried swiftkey and swype but still prefer the Android stock keyboard So is that only what nerds can do but not general public?
Am using the stock keyboard too. Nothing's wrong with it
I don't see anything wrong with Android keyboard... I don't swype, I use the stock keyboard but I type without problem. In fact, I tried swiftkey and swype but still prefer the Android stock keyboard So is that only what nerds can do but not general public?
nah. nothing to do with what type of person u r.
but i guess even though with a perfect keyboard, like all thgs there will be some ppl who simply prefer a different type.
dat's the whole point. android can be tweaked, which drives the geeks and nerds crazy with estacy. but normal ppl won't be bothered.
normal ppl use the phone for easy, beauty.
even until now, no body and not even the android nerds can get the touch keyboard perfectly right like apple does. there is a app for every need possible.
so if u wanna get touchphone, makes no sense to get anythg other than iphone right?
i also have no problem using the android stock keyboard.. i feel it's better than iphone one as the iphone keys are a little smaller..
haha.. and are you joining the android world now? i just saw u posting in this thread:
but i guess even though with a perfect keyboard, like all thgs there will be some ppl who simply prefer a different type.
that's what makes the world an interesting place!
So what's exactly the point you're making here? You just said Android can't get the keyboard right and now you say it's perfect but you just don't like it.
It's okay to voice out your opinions, but of course back yourself up with some points: - super amoled can't compare to retina display, this is the power of apple - unfortunately so far, android still unable to match apple's iOS masterpiece even though it was a seed of apple - Choice, yes bcos it's open platform. But very unfortunately, no android maker can match apple in design. Besides, android kenot match iOS in ease of user friendly, wide practical use.
All the while you've been saying Android is "not quite there", and Apple iOS/iphone is masterpiece, without any further explanation. It's okay to have preference and brand loyalty, but there's no point to make comparison if you do not have enough technical knowledge on Android to support your view For example, you say Android cannot match iOs in user-friendliness - this is very subjective so at least give some elaboration on exactly which area gives you such feeling
No offense dude, I just want to improve the quality of the discussion here, and want to prevent this thread from becoming Apple vs Google war
This post has been edited by samurai1337: Jul 25 2010, 10:55 PM
this is example of typical android user. pls dun get me wrong,nerds/geeks is useful to solve some techno problems once in a while. and they will be extreme happiness if u ask them question especially if abt techiestuff.
Added on July 25, 2010, 10:32 pm
ooops. sorry din realise dats the new geek word of de day.
please please fix your mind before posting..
there are many non-nerds/geeks joining nowadays..i also hope to be nerds/geeks too..
So what's exactly the point you're making here? You just said Android can't get the keyboard right and now you say it's perfect but you just don't like it.
It's okay to voice out your opinions, but of course back yourself up with some points: - super amoled can't compare to retina display, this is the power of apple - unfortunately so far, android still unable to match apple's iOS masterpiece even though it was a seed of apple - Choice, yes bcos it's open platform. But very unfortunately, no android maker can match apple in design. Besides, android kenot match iOS in ease of user friendly, wide practical use.
All the while you've been saying Android is "not quite there", and Apple iOS/iphone is masterpiece, without any further explanation. It's okay to have preference and brand loyalty, but there's no point to make comparison if you do not have enough technical knowledge on Android to support your view For example, you say Android cannot match iOs in user-friendliness - this is very subjective so at least give some elaboration on exactly which area gives you such feeling
No offense dude, I just want to improve the quality of the discussion here, and want to prevent this thread from becoming Apple vs Google war
Well said bro.
...But I don't think he has any sort technical knowledge of what he said, or else he would have explain properly dy...
So what's exactly the point you're making here? You just said Android can't get the keyboard right and now you say it's perfect but you just don't like it.
It's okay to voice out your opinions, but of course back yourself up with some points: - super amoled can't compare to retina display, this is the power of apple - unfortunately so far, android still unable to match apple's iOS masterpiece even though it was a seed of apple - Choice, yes bcos it's open platform. But very unfortunately, no android maker can match apple in design. Besides, android kenot match iOS in ease of user friendly, wide practical use.
All the while you've been saying Android is "not quite there", and Apple iOS/iphone is masterpiece, without any further explanation. It's okay to have preference and brand loyalty, but there's no point to make comparison if you do not have enough technical knowledge on Android to support your view For example, you say Android cannot match iOs in user-friendliness - this is very subjective so at least give some elaboration on exactly which area gives you such feeling
No offense dude, I just want to improve the quality of the discussion here, and want to prevent this thread from becoming Apple vs Google war
dude, all these points i am sure android users know and realise. and u misuderstd me. perfect keyboard is iphone but sumbody may dun like it and prefer sumthg inferior like android's build-in keyboard.
-of course everybody knows super amoled is not so high-rez as retina. retina display is like reading paper writing. summore sunlight legibility of super amoled is terrible. in country wt bright sunlight like ours, this is important
- i have tried touch interface of desire (android champion) and i really cannot get use to it. it's difficult to type out but the best way to say is that android touch, swipes are feel unnatural, better den winmo however.
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QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Jul 25 2010, 11:07 PM)
dude, all these points i am sure android users know and realise. and u misuderstd me. perfect keyboard is iphone but sumbody may dun like it and prefer sumthg inferior like android's build-in keyboard. -of course everybody knows super amoled is not so high-rez as retina. retina display is like reading paper writing. summore sunlight legibility of super amoled is terrible. in country wt bright sunlight like ours, this is important
- i have tried touch interface of desire (android champion) and i really cannot get use to it. it's difficult to type out but the best way to say is that android touch, swipes are feel unnatural, better den winmo however.
Guys, please dont layan him anymore..he's not even know whats he talking about..
kentang..ok iPhone is the Best in everything...so...are you happy now.. do you gains any money on this? wondering is that posible that you can pursuit current androis user switch to iPhone... be honest...i havent found one...
Please share with us if you do... many thanks in advanced... and enjoy you 'i' brand...
oh my god...he dont even know swype...
This post has been edited by bonanno: Jul 25 2010, 11:17 PM
dude, all these points i am sure android users know and realise. and u misuderstd me. perfect keyboard is iphone but sumbody may dun like it and prefer sumthg inferior like android's build-in keyboard. -of course everybody knows super amoled is not so high-rez as retina. retina display is like reading paper writing. summore sunlight legibility of super amoled is terrible. in country wt bright sunlight like ours, this is important
- i have tried touch interface of desire (android champion) and i really cannot get use to it. it's difficult to type out but the best way to say is that android touch, swipes are feel unnatural, better den winmo however.
- this is proven by the sales.
- I never use iPhone keyboard extensively so can't compare - the point I was trying to make is that I've no problem with Android touch keyboard. I can type quite fast so far because the screen is big
- Retina display has higher resolution, you're right. But it also depends on which way you're seeing - Samsung's Super Amoled has bigger screen (4.3") and AMOLED is known to be more vibrant. And no, Super Amoled is known to improve a lot under sunlight compare to Amoled itself. It's up to personal preference in the end
- Sales figure doesn't prove the technical superiority... Apple sell well partly because of their brand-name, all the hypes and their superior good marketing.
This post has been edited by samurai1337: Jul 25 2010, 11:19 PM
dude, all these points i am sure android users know and realise. and u misuderstd me. perfect keyboard is iphone but sumbody may dun like it and prefer sumthg inferior like android's build-in keyboard. -of course everybody knows super amoled is not so high-rez as retina. retina display is like reading paper writing. summore sunlight legibility of super amoled is terrible. in country wt bright sunlight like ours, this is important
- i have tried touch interface of desire (android champion) and i really cannot get use to it. it's difficult to type out but the best way to say is that android touch, swipes are feel unnatural, better den winmo however.
- this is proven by the sales.
1. u can choose many keyboard input for android. even though i prefer iphone's keyboard but thanks god i can find other keyboard input like swype,swiftkey,droid x keyboard,etc..i can change to any input whenever i like...
2. super amoled is not terrible in direct sunlight..i think u duno amoled and super amoled are different technology...i got no problem using super amoled screen under bright sunlight and for me,the display is same with my iphone 3G..and i believe play video with super amoled will definitely better than retina display.. and also u need to zoom to the maximum only can see the difference for the text
3. in term of touch screen between iphone and htc desire,no doubt iphone better than that..but with touch screen from galaxy s,is on par with iphone(as a view from iphone and also galaxy s user)
- I never use iPhone keyboard extensively so can't compare - the point I was trying to make is that I've no problem with Android touch keyboard. I can type quite fast so far because the screen is big
- Retina display has higher resolution, you're right. But it also depends on which way you're seeing - Samsung's Super Amoled has bigger screen (4.3") and AMOLED is known to be more vibrant. And no, Super Amoled is known to improve a lot under sunlight compare to Amoled itself. It's up to personal preference in the end
- Sales figure doesn't prove the technical superiority... Apple sell well because of their brand-name, all the hypes and their superior good marketing.
but i guess even though with a perfect keyboard, like all thgs there will be some ppl who simply prefer a different type.
that's what makes the world an interesting place!
Ahem, at least this is one of the more useful argument which is valid.
Well, to be honest, the keys on Android is closer than on Iphone. Why no problem? It really depends on the type of Android phone you are using. Most of them are using Desire, Nexus One, Galaxy S which features at least 3.7" screen which should solve that. Im using Legend for the 1st month. I have to say it looks spacious enough but I do get wrong keys all the time. The Iphone have a much larger screen on top of wider space between two keys. Its subjective, but I was really annoyed at first but the predictive text saves the day. It was minimal unless you got 3.2" Android phone. I still get wrong keys on Iphone (maybe becos Im used to using stylus with my 5800) but not as much as I did with Legend. Its getting better now. I remember on first week with Legend, the key I used the most is the back button. LOL... Imagine using more of back button when typing a long comment like this on Legend. Kinda sucks but its getting better. I like swype, but hate the speed and it totally kill pinch n zoom.
dude, all these points i am sure android users know and realise. and u misuderstd me. perfect keyboard is iphone but sumbody may dun like it and prefer sumthg inferior like android's build-in keyboard. -of course everybody knows super amoled is not so high-rez as retina. retina display is like reading paper writing. summore sunlight legibility of super amoled is terrible. in country wt bright sunlight like ours, this is important
- i have tried touch interface of desire (android champion) and i really cannot get use to it. it's difficult to type out but the best way to say is that android touch, swipes are feel unnatural, better den winmo however.
- this is proven by the sales.
Paper writing huh? I think I will wait till I saw Iphone 4 first. Bumping up resolution is good for movies and games but for fonts, I will have to see that first hand. Fonts are weird. Just like our LCD. If you put them on native resolution, it look sharp edge but when you feel they are hard to read and zoom it, they look awful. Thats why Im holding back my judgement.
As for the sunlight, I dont know. But honestly I dont think I will be too interested to know at all. Its not that important. ALL of them are hard to see under direct sun. It does not matter because I think I will look at it later under a shade than to be standing under the hot sun looking for something that I can barely see. I just think that I might add something here which make you happier. I barely see anything at all with my Legend under the hot sun at 4pm, the first and last time I ever tried. Under a shade of hot sun, no problem. I wont be standing under the hot sun to read my sms, that would make me look like idiots.
Ah, and the touches, Iphone is more sensitive. Would I say easier, YES (You like that huh?). Cos I never get used to Iphone (never own one, just play with some), it was not a problem to me. As for swipes, I think unable to compare, cos Iphone are page base which requires swipe and most of Android is based on kinetic scrolling unless you have LauncherPro. As for Sense, I like it. You dont need to swipe across like Iphone did. There is a kinetic in it when you swipe fast, it just turn over easily or you can swipe it slowly but having to move your fingers further. I like it but cant really say which is better. Initially I prefer Iphone page based menu but after using Android, I think its beginning to feel okay with it because the app are sorted alphabetically. Apple menu are not sorted so that why I think page base work better for them. The most stupid is Nokia 5800. Menu aint sorted but with kinetic scrolling. Really hard to use at times.
Added on July 26, 2010, 12:38 am
QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Jul 26 2010, 12:08 AM)
I think it's more like everyone vs the lone airhead.
Well, at least he is talking more sensibly now. Its way better than some of his earlier postings.
This post has been edited by andrekua: Jul 26 2010, 12:40 AM
this is example of typical android user. pls dun get me wrong,nerds/geeks is useful to solve some techno problems once in a while. and they will be extreme happiness if u ask them question especially if abt techiestuff.
don't say till like i'm a nerd..i used to own iphone and an desire...and i'm speaking on both device..just i like live thing but not dead thing..that's all..do u have both phone to test?for action show me u dont hv any..
Added on July 26, 2010, 8:59 am
QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Jul 26 2010, 12:08 AM)
I think it's more like everyone vs the lone airhead.
i think it is not a thread become Apple and google..there's a guy that side iphone create this war in this thread-.-
This post has been edited by hanny562: Jul 26 2010, 08:59 AM
dat's the whole point. android can be tweaked, which drives the geeks and nerds crazy with estacy. but normal ppl won't be bothered.
normal ppl use the phone for easy, beauty.
even until now, no body and not even the android nerds can get the touch keyboard perfectly right like apple does. there is a app for every need possible.
so if u wanna get touchphone, makes no sense to get anythg other than iphone right?
that's your own preference of "normal person", And what makes you think that we use a touchphone for the sake of it's keyboard? This thread was originally started so that iPhone and it's rival android os phone user could share their experience and timately letting the thread master decide which os is better based on his preferences. You're just being immature and obviously wanted to start a flame war in here, now gfto!
I think all of you should ignore these kentang chap. It is so obvious he is a diehard Apple iphone chap. He is so brainwashed that nothing is better than iPhone. The more I read his comments the more I pity his mentality. And I am in a good position to say this cos I also have iphone 3GS and had been using the series since the first 2G 8GB model.
Kentang love for the iphone is all due to his NEEDS which he feel the iphone meet it very well BUT he forgot one important thing - not everyone has same needs as him
I am a good example ; repeatedly and repeatedly I have said in this forum, I still rate the iphone 3GS last compared to my Nexus and HTC HD2. Not that the iPhone 3GS is not good, its features DO NOT meet my needs as well as the Nexus/HD2.
I have been using smartphones since the day it was available, OMG about 15+ years ago till now and AGAIN I wish to say there is NEVER a BEST smartphone. The best smartphone is the one which satisfy you most and meet your needs NOT your wants. Maybe the new iPhone 4 will meet my needs better - who knows until I get my hands onto it. But based on its features, I doubt so, perhaps will be my number 2. I'll tell you after I get it end this month
This post has been edited by benny888: Jul 26 2010, 01:03 PM
- I never use iPhone keyboard extensively so can't compare - the point I was trying to make is that I've no problem with Android touch keyboard. I can type quite fast so far because the screen is big
- Retina display has higher resolution, you're right. But it also depends on which way you're seeing - Samsung's Super Amoled has bigger screen (4.3") and AMOLED is known to be more vibrant. And no, Super Amoled is known to improve a lot under sunlight compare to Amoled itself. It's up to personal preference in the end
- Sales figure doesn't prove the technical superiority... Apple sell well partly because of their brand-name, all the hypes and their superior good marketing.
+1.
If purely by sales figure, I guess most ppl will say iPhone wins... But is that the real figure, or is it just another marketing strategies to claim that iPhone do sell that many...?
wow benny do u use all of ur phone? n yet u will get ur iphone4 next... so many wo...
My expensive hobby. My main phone is now the Nexus ; the HD2 i use only now for Ebook reading ( excellent , no platform can match it ) and the ocassional GPS Garmin. the iPhone only when I am on flight for video podcasts and listen audio books ( these are iphone strengths but need iTunes to manage it ). Can say I have the best of all platforms with me. My Nokia E71 just given away to my son - would say is the best keyboard phone I have ever used.
I have also use a wide variety of notebooks but I'd said when come to OS, Apple Mac OSX is really good and I'll not hesitate to recommend. However sad to say, I'll not say such for their iPhone . I still use Windows just because I need it to flash my HD2 and my previous windows mobile phones. Other than this purpose, it is not used .
I bought the iPAD just as an old man's toy and I'll never recommend it if you think this can replace even a netbook. It is just like buying a BMW but instead you have a kancil engine.
My expensive hobby. My main phone is now the Nexus ; the HD2 i use only now for Ebook reading ( excellent , no platform can match it ) and the ocassional GPS Garmin. the iPhone only when I am on flight for video podcasts and listen audio books ( these are iphone strengths but need iTunes to manage it ). Can say I have the best of all platforms with me. My Nokia E71 just given away to my son - would say is the best keyboard phone I have ever used.
I have also use a wide variety of notebooks but I'd said when come to OS, Apple Mac OSX is really good and I'll not hesitate to recommend. However sad to say, I'll not say such for their iPhone . I still use Windows just because I need it to flash my HD2 and my previous windows mobile phones. Other than this purpose, it is not used .
I bought the iPAD just as an old man's toy and I'll never recommend it if you think this can replace even a netbook. It is just like buying a BMW but instead you have a kancil engine.
+1 mac osx rox.. but not their iphone.. actually ipad is like a bigger version of iphone.. lol no offence.. since it does not support flash.. wat is the good to have and ipad while a netbook can easily play flash content.. lol.. especially fb games..
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QUOTE(taylorskaki @ Jul 26 2010, 06:43 AM)
+1 mac osx rox.. but not their iphone.. actually ipad is like a bigger version of iphone.. lol no offence.. since it does not support flash.. wat is the good to have and ipad while a netbook can easily play flash content.. lol.. especially fb games..
iPad is a bigger version of iPod coz ipad cant make phone call and sms
I think all of you should ignore these kentang chap. It is so obvious he is a diehard Apple iphone chap. He is so brainwashed that nothing is better than iPhone. The more I read his comments the more I pity his mentality. And I am in a good position to say this cos I also have iphone 3GS and had been using the series since the first 2G 8GB model.
Kentang love for the iphone is all due to his NEEDS which he feel the iphone meet it very well BUT he forgot one important thing - not everyone has same needs as him
I am a good example ; repeatedly and repeatedly I have said in this forum, I still rate the iphone 3GS last compared to my Nexus and HTC HD2. Not that the iPhone 3GS is not good, its features DO NOT meet my needs as well as the Nexus/HD2.
I have been using smartphones since the day it was available, OMG about 15+ years ago till now and AGAIN I wish to say there is NEVER a BEST smartphone. The best smartphone is the one which satisfy you most and meet your needs NOT your wants. Maybe the new iPhone 4 will meet my needs better - who knows until I get my hands onto it. But based on its features, I doubt so, perhaps will be my number 2. I'll tell you after I get it end this month
all along i've maintained dat android serves a 'special' group of ppl who is think and act different from most other ppl. but for the majority of ppl, there is iPhone. so far i've refrained from discussing in-depth specs with techno-geeks simply bcoz once they started, they like to go on and on...
for instance they like to say super amoled is great for viewing videos. but who wld wanna watch a movie on a screen so small? even de normal mtv also difficult. only geeks who like to show off wld enjoy demo-ing to either themselves or other ppl, juz for de sake of demo-ing. not practical i wld say.
and android geeks wld love to talk abt how customizable their phone is (chge themes-lar, fonts, etc.). the only reason why anyone wld customize it is bcoz it is so good as the iPhone. remember, apple has a large group of smart ppl dedicated to develop the hardware and software to provide a handphone that is the best on the planet. only apple is able to do it, with their creative culture set up by Mr. Steve Jobs.
on the other hand, google juz throws the android at a bunch of geeks and watch them go wild. how can they ever match apple? even big company like htc (taiwanese oem maker), samsung (home appliance maker), motorola (failed handphone company) can even fight with apple?
in conclusion, the life u lead is abt choices, if u love android, i have never insulted ur choice. if u love iphone, all i'm saying that ...well its a choice u will never ever regret.
all along i've maintained dat android serves a 'special' group of ppl who is think and act different from most other ppl. but for the majority of ppl, there is iPhone. so far i've refrained from discussing in-depth specs with techno-geeks simply bcoz once they started, they like to go on and on...
for instance they like to say super amoled is great for viewing videos. but who wld wanna watch a movie on a screen so small? even de normal mtv also difficult. only geeks who like to show off wld enjoy demo-ing to either themselves or other ppl, juz for de sake of demo-ing. not practical i wld say.
and android geeks wld love to talk abt how customizable their phone is (chge themes-lar, fonts, etc.). the only reason why anyone wld customize it is bcoz it is so good as the iPhone. remember, apple has a large group of smart ppl dedicated to develop the hardware and software to provide a handphone that is the best on the planet. only apple is able to do it, with their creative culture set up by Mr. Steve Jobs.
on the other hand, google juz throws the android at a bunch of geeks and watch them go wild. how can they ever match apple? even big company like htc (taiwanese oem maker), samsung (home appliance maker), motorola (failed handphone company) can even fight with apple?
in conclusion, the life u lead is abt choices, if u love android, i have never insulted ur choice. if u love iphone, all i'm saying that ...well its a choice u will never ever regret. cheers and signing off
once again proven that you're just another die hard Apple fanboy
non stop harping on how superior Iphone is when the fact that it is getting so outdated already.
btw, "techno" is not the term you're looking for, "techno" is a form of electronic dance music, so stop saying "techno geeks" it makes me face palm every time i read it.
once again proven that you're just another die hard Apple fanboy
non stop harping on how superior Iphone is when the fact that it is getting so outdated already.
btw, "techno" is not the term you're looking for, "techno" is a form of electronic dance music, so stop saying "techno geeks" it makes me face palm every time i read it.
Honestly, i was an Apple fan, i 1st use iPod Nano and i loved it, then i get an iPhone 3G even love it, then i upgraded it to iPhone 3Gs with DiGi plan. I tot i would love it so much. Until i met my first Android, the Google Nexus One, i never look back there after. If you like freedom, you will get what i mean. If you want detail comparion with HTC Desire/Nexus One vs. iPhone 4. This is what i agree on. Desire/N1 vs. iPhone 4 Review
Honestly, i was an Apple fan, i 1st use iPod Nano and i loved it, then i get an iPhone 3G even love it, then i upgraded it to iPhone 3Gs with DiGi plan. I tot i would love it so much. Until i met my first Android, the Google Nexus One, i never look back there after. If you like freedom, you will get what i mean. If you want detail comparion with HTC Desire/Nexus One vs. iPhone 4. This is what i agree on. Desire/N1 vs. iPhone 4 Review
Hey bro, your link doesn't work..or is it my problem?
can we browse the website from android device with full desktop version instead of everytime trigger into mobile version of the site ... for example ... facebook.com will lead to mobile.facebook.com or there is a setting for this?
can we browse the website from android device with full desktop version instead of everytime trigger into mobile version of the site ... for example ... facebook.com will lead to mobile.facebook.com or there is a setting for this?
If you're using the stock browser:- 1) Open your browser 2) type about:debug in the address bar and press go 3) Click the phone "menu" key 4) Choose "More" then "Setting" 5) Scroll down until you see "UAString", tap that and a pop-up will appear 6) Choose "desktop"
all along i've maintained dat android serves a 'special' group of ppl who is think and act different from most other ppl. but for the majority of ppl, there is iPhone. so far i've refrained from discussing in-depth specs with techno-geeks simply bcoz once they started, they like to go on and on...
for instance they like to say super amoled is great for viewing videos. but who wld wanna watch a movie on a screen so small? even de normal mtv also difficult. only geeks who like to show off wld enjoy demo-ing to either themselves or other ppl, juz for de sake of demo-ing. not practical i wld say.
and android geeks wld love to talk abt how customizable their phone is (chge themes-lar, fonts, etc.). the only reason why anyone wld customize it is bcoz it is so good as the iPhone. remember, apple has a large group of smart ppl dedicated to develop the hardware and software to provide a handphone that is the best on the planet. only apple is able to do it, with their creative culture set up by Mr. Steve Jobs.
on the other hand, google juz throws the android at a bunch of geeks and watch them go wild. how can they ever match apple? even big company like htc (taiwanese oem maker), samsung (home appliance maker), motorola (failed handphone company) can even fight with apple?
in conclusion, the life u lead is abt choices, if u love android, i have never insulted ur choice. if u love iphone, all i'm saying that ...well its a choice u will never ever regret. cheers and signing off
all along i've maintained dat android serves a 'special' group of ppl who is think and act different from most other ppl. but for the majority of ppl, there is iPhone. so far i've refrained from discussing in-depth specs with techno-geeks simply bcoz once they started, they like to go on and on...
for instance they like to say super amoled is great for viewing videos. but who wld wanna watch a movie on a screen so small? even de normal mtv also difficult. only geeks who like to show off wld enjoy demo-ing to either themselves or other ppl, juz for de sake of demo-ing. not practical i wld say.
and android geeks wld love to talk abt how customizable their phone is (chge themes-lar, fonts, etc.). the only reason why anyone wld customize it is bcoz it is so good as the iPhone. remember, apple has a large group of smart ppl dedicated to develop the hardware and software to provide a handphone that is the best on the planet. only apple is able to do it, with their creative culture set up by Mr. Steve Jobs.
on the other hand, google juz throws the android at a bunch of geeks and watch them go wild. how can they ever match apple? even big company like htc (taiwanese oem maker), samsung (home appliance maker), motorola (failed handphone company) can even fight with apple?
in conclusion, the life u lead is abt choices, if u love android, i have never insulted ur choice. if u love iphone, all i'm saying that ...well its a choice u will never ever regret. cheers and signing off
are u a kid that trying to cry out apple is the best of the best, AGAIN?? in the bold words,can i edit it to apple(pc/laptop maker) and not suitable for smartphone?
i hope some1 from iphone forum can see what u have u posted here..you never get your facts right from the beginning until now and i think future too
all along i've maintained dat android serves a 'special' group of ppl who is think and act different from most other ppl. but for the majority of ppl, there is iPhone. so far i've refrained from discussing in-depth specs with techno-geeks simply bcoz once they started, they like to go on and on...
for instance they like to say super amoled is great for viewing videos. but who wld wanna watch a movie on a screen so small? even de normal mtv also difficult. only geeks who like to show off wld enjoy demo-ing to either themselves or other ppl, juz for de sake of demo-ing. not practical i wld say.
and android geeks wld love to talk abt how customizable their phone is (chge themes-lar, fonts, etc.). the only reason why anyone wld customize it is bcoz it is so good as the iPhone. remember, apple has a large group of smart ppl dedicated to develop the hardware and software to provide a handphone that is the best on the planet. only apple is able to do it, with their creative culture set up by Mr. Steve Jobs.
on the other hand, google juz throws the android at a bunch of geeks and watch them go wild. how can they ever match apple? even big company like htc (taiwanese oem maker), samsung (home appliance maker), motorola (failed handphone company) can even fight with apple?
in conclusion, the life u lead is abt choices, if u love android, i have never insulted ur choice. if u love iphone, all i'm saying that ...well its a choice u will never ever regret. cheers and signing off
Man..reading your post+coke+pringles patato has become my daily routine. Hehe. Thx for that.you really made my day.
Android user not only changing theme n fonts only..what else u know? Go n search..android actually save motorola handset..and please don't stop posting here. I'llbemissing u U still wanna trade your iPhone with desire?
Oh hai thar. I have here an old link: http://is.gd/dLgON which probably has been discussed here. It's about fanboyism.
In all fairness, if GSM Droid X is not available here by the tiem iPhone 4 hits local market, I'll jump ship and buy two iPhone 4. For sho and for real.
all along i've maintained dat android serves a 'special' group of ppl who is think and act different from most other ppl. but for the majority of ppl, there is iPhone. so far i've refrained from discussing in-depth specs with techno-geeks simply bcoz once they started, they like to go on and on...
for instance they like to say super amoled is great for viewing videos. but who wld wanna watch a movie on a screen so small? even de normal mtv also difficult. only geeks who like to show off wld enjoy demo-ing to either themselves or other ppl, juz for de sake of demo-ing. not practical i wld say.
and android geeks wld love to talk abt how customizable their phone is (chge themes-lar, fonts, etc.). the only reason why anyone wld customize it is bcoz it is so good as the iPhone. remember, apple has a large group of smart ppl dedicated to develop the hardware and software to provide a handphone that is the best on the planet. only apple is able to do it, with their creative culture set up by Mr. Steve Jobs.
on the other hand, google juz throws the android at a bunch of geeks and watch them go wild. how can they ever match apple? even big company like htc (taiwanese oem maker), samsung (home appliance maker), motorola (failed handphone company) can even fight with apple?
in conclusion, the life u lead is abt choices, if u love android, i have never insulted ur choice. if u love iphone, all i'm saying that ...well its a choice u will never ever regret. cheers and signing off
Yes, kentang, let's all be good little automatons, shut off our brains and let apple tell us what we need
Added on July 27, 2010, 11:14 am
QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Jul 27 2010, 11:00 AM)
Oh hai thar. I have here an old link: http://is.gd/dLgON which probably has been discussed here. It's about fanboyism.
In all fairness, if GSM Droid X is not available here by the tiem iPhone 4 hits local market, I'll jump ship and buy two iPhone 4. For sho and for real.
Dude, that's a damn good article!
This post has been edited by bluesteel: Jul 27 2010, 11:14 AM
lol.. patriotism.... towards?? united states of iphone?? wakakakaka... im using iphone.. but im not so attracted to its apps and stuffs.. it makes me bored... im switching ship soon after i get rid of my iphone.. haha..
nope.. tft and slcd not same.. desire and N1 will be getting Slcd bcos amoled is low in stock.. so samsung join venture with sony and come out slcd for desire and N1.. refer this http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_and_nex...s-news-1834.php but dunno slcd is better than amoled o nt.. haha..
nope.. tft and slcd not same.. desire and N1 will be getting Slcd bcos amoled is low in stock.. so samsung join venture with sony and come out slcd for desire and N1.. refer this http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_and_nex...s-news-1834.php but dunno slcd is better than amoled o nt.. haha..
yea but this guy ask me compare iphone with desire =.= thanks for the link =)
S-LCD is not a new product. S-LCD is just a name adopted for the panel that was manufactured by the join cooperation of Samsung and Sony few years back. Sony has since form a new joint cooperation with Sharp to better compete with Samsung.
This S-LCD is probably the PVA screen that Samsung is proud of because of the better depth of black compared to IPS. Nothing new. AMOLED is not new because two years ago, bought my wife a N85 which has AMOLED screen. Super AMOLED is new but I think switching from AMOLED to PVA, many will be able to sport the difference due to the stark difference in coloration.
lol.. patriotism.... towards?? united states of iphone?? wakakakaka... im using iphone.. but im not so attracted to its apps and stuffs.. it makes me bored... im switching ship soon after i get rid of my iphone.. haha..
u dunno meh... apple gonna take over united stet!
oh wai.. google is taking over the world..
google > apple
sarcasm aside.. i switch to any OS in the world other than iphone anyday anytime... though i must say, i stay away from symbian s60v5.. lol~
Hmm... anyone sees the French_Fries Iphone Fanboy lately?? I am kinda miss his opinion and 'insight' of the whole story... hahaha
lol +1 for u Kentang France.... lol.. maybe he busy trading his 3gs for desire.. haha.. maybe later he will change to bcome an android fanboy.. haha attack apple back?
Seriously, whats so good about iOS4? Yeah iOS3 and before was great, BY FAR because there was no Android, but now? C'mon! Maybe Steve will finally drop the "I'll tell you whats good for you" crap and iOS5 will be awesome again, but for now, to hell with the iPhone.
[quote=Reis,Jul 27 2010, 03:03 PM] Seriously, whats so good about iOS4? Yeah iOS3 and before was great, BY FAR because there was no Android, but now? C'mon! Maybe Steve will finally drop the "I'll tell you whats good for you" crap and iOS5 will be awesome again, but for now, to hell with the iPhone.
steve jobs juz made jailbreaking legal to avoid lawsuit...
ya.. lol maybe he just realized that all the people who buy iphone is bcos of jay freeman the cydia developer.. hahaha.. maybe a join venture between the 2 of them can make a really good apps store and OS.. hahaha
Added on July 27, 2010, 5:42 pmlol guys just found this.. i think the france kentang will like dis..
This post has been edited by taylorskaki: Jul 27 2010, 05:43 PM
ya.. lol maybe he just realized that all the people who buy iphone is bcos of jay freeman the cydia developer.. hahaha.. maybe a join venture between the 2 of them can make a really good apps store and OS.. hahaha
Added on July 27, 2010, 5:42 pmlol guys just found this.. i think the france kentang will like dis..
S-LCD is not a new product. S-LCD is just a name adopted for the panel that was manufactured by the join cooperation of Samsung and Sony few years back. Sony has since form a new joint cooperation with Sharp to better compete with Samsung.
This S-LCD is probably the PVA screen that Samsung is proud of because of the better depth of black compared to IPS. Nothing new. AMOLED is not new because two years ago, bought my wife a N85 which has AMOLED screen. Super AMOLED is new but I think switching from AMOLED to PVA, many will be able to sport the difference due to the stark difference in coloration.
Summary : To save you some reading I thought all the displays were really good, they all had decent colour and respectable viewing angles. The super AMOLED was noticeably less reflective than the others and was blacker with the best viewing angles. Super LCD had similar detail in the rock face video and had a superior horizontal viewing angle compared to a regular AMOLED display. The AMOLED had slightly better blacks (you can't tell from the video - sorry) and slightly better vertical viewing angles. Both Super LCD and AMOLED were very reflective.
This post has been edited by benny888: Jul 27 2010, 10:51 PM
Summary : To save you some reading I thought all the displays were really good, they all had decent colour and respectable viewing angles. The super AMOLED was noticeably less reflective than the others and was blacker with the best viewing angles. Super LCD had similar detail in the rock face video and had a superior horizontal viewing angle compared to a regular AMOLED display. The AMOLED had slightly better blacks (you can't tell from the video - sorry) and slightly better vertical viewing angles. Both Super LCD and AMOLED were very reflective.
Its S and not Super.
Anyway, if you wanna know how S-LCD looks like, just look at Samsung PVA LCD panel. I dont like it at all. If you want LCD based, should get IPS. Many whom went for Samsung panel (which is what Sony is using as well), just prefer the better black level. Nothing beats the IPS color if you ask me. You know what panel Apple is using?? IPS...
As for AMOLED, it would be foolish to say they look the same as S-LCD. Even an IPS panel look way different than AMOLED, let alone PVA. It boils down to how HTC calibrate S-LCD whether they will favor slightly more Red to reduce the difference to AMOLED.
This post has been edited by andrekua: Jul 28 2010, 12:39 AM
Sometimes, applications/games is why people opt for iPhone. It just works. It's going to have some time before Android will do the same. Currently lots of companies (Latest example MAS Airlines) are making iPhone apps. This shows how important application is. That's what makes the phone interesting rather than the usual things you find on phones.
As for fluidity, none can match iPhone just yet. If did, just barely. But once Android is polished further, I'm sure it'll pass iOS4 in no time.
Sometimes, applications/games is why people opt for iPhone. It just works. It's going to have some time before Android will do the same. Currently lots of companies (Latest example MAS Airlines) are making iPhone apps. This shows how important application is. That's what makes the phone interesting rather than the usual things you find on phones.
As for fluidity, none can match iPhone just yet. If did, just barely. But once Android is polished further, I'm sure it'll pass iOS4 in no time.
+1 thats y most ppl in malaysia say iphone good.. coz u dun need geek knowledge to install apps/games.. all u need is creditcard..
All marketing only... but software developer knows that Android is there too, that's why some apps come in 2 version....
thats y there is cydia.. haha.. free apps for everyone.. this is one of the factor ppl buy iphone.. if without jailbreak iphone is a piece of shit that sucks money.. my friend once told me if there is no jailbreak he wont even think of an iphone.. lol.. now he is using nexus 1 haha...
hmm nice videos..mind posting up some sample of AMOLED so we can see the difference.. hehe..
haha,, every video have different lighting so its difficult to compare unless a reviewer reviewed both SLCD and AMOLED side by side indoors. Lets just wait n search on that. Currently Telus r getting SLCDs on their desire in their stock. No news bout other carriers or other countries already got SLCD desire set currently in stock yet.
This post has been edited by pluginbaby: Jul 28 2010, 11:05 AM
ok ok sry.. well i just sold my iphone 3g 8gb lol.. and im taking either legend or desire.. so the main reason for me to change to android is bcos i like to customize my own phone to my own style.. and i phone jus dont let me do it.. so thumbs up for android and htc.. haha..
In my opinion, this Android sub forum is good. At least not as strict as iPhone ones. In there, you can't even post negative stuff banning iphone, your post will mysteriously be deleted by the iphone fan boy mods. Repeated offence, and you will get a warning.
Pointless post should be in Kopitiam, not here. Just feel that it makes the thread unorganized.
What is your problem? U have reported to mob. So u have done your job. If u don't like here. No one force you in here. And what you trying to show? Look at your post. You r the one who spamming here
How so? We can now legally install Android on iPhones?
if jailbreak is legal then there is no reason for developers to create better apps since that all their affort will be stold by jailbreakers legally! if im a developer, definitely i will go somewhere my contributions are appreciated.
if jailbreak is legal then there is no reason for developers to create better apps since that all their affort will be stold by jailbreakers legally! if im a developer, definitely i will go somewhere my contributions are appreciated.
If you ever get into a situation where you need to share files by BlueTooth, the RM3k+ iPhone is going to make you malu when your friend with his cheap Nokia phone can do it but you can't.
I believed iPhone got YellowTOOTH ? From the smile of the owner since cannot do blueTOOTH? Just my crazy 2 sen.
err duno...after a month of using it,i feel like 4" just normal..lol prefer droid x screen
Its normal. The phone always feel too small for our eyes but our pocket might have a different feel to it. Obviously jumping from 20inch LCD to 37inch LCD TV also feel quite normal nia... no wow effect there.
Its normal. The phone always feel too small for our eyes but our pocket might have a different feel to it. Obviously jumping from 20inch LCD to 37inch LCD TV also feel quite normal nia... no wow effect there.
correct.. android is for when there is alot of iphone around.. show them ur customized lockscreen homescreen widget wallpaper and transfer files via bluetooth.. hahahahaha
correct.. android is for when there is alot of iphone around.. show them ur customized lockscreen homescreen widget wallpaper and transfer files via bluetooth.. hahahahaha
Thats so lame...
Currently I like Android cos it gives me the best web surfing on mobile. 2ndly, the app install just like that, very much alike early generation Symbian without needing security or signature, and lastly, looks good (HTC Legend).
correct.. android is for when there is alot of iphone around.. show them ur customized lockscreen homescreen widget wallpaper and transfer files via bluetooth.. hahahahaha
Hye guys! I read this thread like a few days back.. And it seems like so inviting me to have an argument too!! With iBoys then.. Well, Steve Jobs still with his antennagate problemo even his head also get baldy now... If im not mistaken, latest victim is 5800 right? Well, for me Stevie just don't want to take this matter so well because he already stated that "We'd spent billions for this antenna, so don't just hold your phone this way.." LOL!! anyway, iBoys... One more thing.. Don't get so happy with the performance of iOS4.. Still there're lot of main disadvantages out there.. It just, one of the main problematic (maybe will not be solved?) is the antenna.. Or so called "calls killer".. What? Got firmware update for iOS4? How about the Germany team that tested it and really upset about the result which shown that every calls made will dropped at last with only hold the phone normally like other smartphone? Wake up Stevie.. U're going down now.. Even Android is coming with Gingerbread in future time being..
Hye guys! I read this thread like a few days back.. And it seems like so inviting me to have an argument too!! With iBoys then.. Well, Steve Jobs still with his antennagate problemo even his head also get baldy now... If im not mistaken, latest victim is 5800 right? Well, for me Stevie just don't want to take this matter so well because he already stated that "We'd spent billions for this antenna, so don't just hold your phone this way.." LOL!! anyway, iBoys... One more thing.. Don't get so happy with the performance of iOS4.. Still there're lot of main disadvantages out there.. It just, one of the main problematic (maybe will not be solved?) is the antenna.. Or so called "calls killer".. What? Got firmware update for iOS4? How about the Germany team that tested it and really upset about the result which shown that every calls made will dropped at last with only hold the phone normally like other smartphone? Wake up Stevie.. U're going down now.. Even Android is coming with Gingerbread in future time being..
Hehe...
One of the reason why Im addicted to Android is to see how much they can evolve. I wonder how much can they change given where they were now.
One of the reason why Im addicted to Android is to see how much they can evolve. I wonder how much can they change given where they were now.
So do I!! Dare to compare with Gingerbread again iOS4??
Added on July 31, 2010, 1:34 am
QUOTE(lalahai @ Jul 31 2010, 12:06 AM)
And then theres this , http://lifehacker.com/5599116/how-to-turn-your-android-phone-into-a-fully+automated-superphone IN YOUR FACE iOS4 fan boi !!!!
I like this app!!
Yeah, it can be a superphone after all the setup.. But then, some of iHoldyourphoneright said that with only a click at an app is enough to bring your life on.. I wonder if that's true they can really make it like this way to compare with android usability though...
C'on.. Mr. Stevie Jobs... Dare to summon other company now??
This post has been edited by faridaizuddin: Jul 31 2010, 01:34 AM
Iphone - simple, trendy & easy to use Android - like a pc on a small scale
Both got strength and weaknesses. Choose the one that suites you the best. Period.
i dont see how Android phones are not trendy, it can be simple to use (it all depends on your personal prefrences, you actually get to chose whether u want to mod it or not) and... is Android phones hard to use ? NO.
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wat he said is right... ppl got individual preference... is just like you say Vios is a damn bloody old technology car, City is much better with better technology... but yet the sales of Vios is way better than City, face the facts it is... that is just because the car reliability is better, if you really want to know the reliability of Toyota vs Honda ask some ppl which really has 2 cars...
So that is just personal preference, well pls tell me what you wanna do with the Smartphone??? Main task (and yet after millennium also same) Calls & SMS... secondary, for business or sales or marketing ppl is checking their stuffs on the go eg. emails, appointments, to do list, view documents and etc; but for normal ppl is just entertainment, gaming, music, movies and etc... do you see the point there...
Android Fanboys face it, the phones with nice screen is HUGE (Desire, Galaxy S, Evo and a few others) in our pocket... it's apps in the market place is not as good as Apples Apps, and it is not filter, eg recently got a few of wall paper apps has the ability of hacking ur system... resource of apps unknown tends to have hacker living around the market place to intrude to ur phone... u also need to do something to ur phone to get full accessibility to the market like iphone (from what i read of)... and some of the smaller screen buddy will not able to upgrade to future system more than 2.2, but we are still waiting for news from google... and smaller screen buddy also will has limitation on apps too...
Iphone Fanboys face it, the phone's reliability is not that good, i could not change the battery if it is flat like some others smart phones... its limited connection to the worlds outside is a major inconvenience for all of the user... and the major thing is the system cannot be majorly customized to some geeks users...
what i see here there is a lot of fanboys in this thread, mostly is android... you all only say what you think but u did not think in a neutral position where some user prefer to have a simple system where they can click and use, but some prefer to has modifications on the system... it is just personal preference... u could not say to ur buddy like this: eg: "Bro, you gf/wife does not looks good at all, come on divorce/kick her off la... u can get a better ones..." and my story is, i had a fren whom always change HP got a desire and he sell off within 1 months... he verdict is nice to see and play with but complicated system... just like him some ppl prefer to have a phone which serve their needs and purpose and not to trouble him...
that is just some example of individual preference...
don flame me as i'm on the fence have yet to decide Android or Iphone, as i need a smartphone to support my job desperately... used WM b4 but the phones problematic already, major i could not really charge it, as it is a very old phone i don want to fix it... i only customize my phone for the 1st 3 months, after that i just use as it... as it meets my requirement/expectation already...
*** could you all get a better life, rather than spend you time here wacking others ppl... y don you try to work in a smartphone shop and see what's ppl want... the percentage of ppl wants simplicity or much more customizable smarts phones... and how many of them are really go and play with their customizable smartphones for months after buying it...
This post has been edited by michael9413: Jul 31 2010, 08:21 AM
wat he said is right... ppl got individual preference... is just like you say Vios is a damn bloody old technology car, City is much better with better technology... but yet the sales of Vios is way better than City, face the facts it is... that is just because the car reliability is better, if you really want to know the reliability of Toyota vs Honda ask some ppl which really has 2 cars...
So that is just personal preference, well pls tell me what you wanna do with the Smartphone??? Main task (and yet after millennium also same) Calls & SMS... secondary, for business or sales or marketing ppl is checking their stuffs on the go eg. emails, appointments, to do list, view documents and etc; but for normal ppl is just entertainment, gaming, music, movies and etc... do you see the point there...
Android Fanboys face it, the phones with nice screen is HUGE (Desire, Galaxy S, Evo and a few others) in our pocket... it's apps in the market place is not as good as Apples Apps, and it is not filter, eg recently got a few of wall paper apps has the ability of hacking ur system... resource of apps unknown tends to have hacker living around the market place to intrude to ur phone... u also need to do something to ur phone to get full accessibility to the market like iphone (from what i read of)... and some of the smaller screen buddy will not able to upgrade to future system more than 2.2, but we are still waiting for news from google... and smaller screen buddy also will has limitation on apps too...
Iphone Fanboys face it, the phone's reliability is not that good, i could not change the battery if it is flat like some others smart phones... its limited connection to the worlds outside is a major inconvenience for all of the user... and the major thing is the system cannot be majorly customized to some geeks users...
what i see here there is a lot of fanboys in this thread, mostly is android... you all only say what you think but u did not think in a neutral position where some user prefer to have a simple system where they can click and use, but some prefer to has modifications on the system... it is just personal preference... u could not say to ur buddy like this: eg: "Bro, you gf/wife does not looks good at all, come on divorce/kick her off la... u can get a better ones..." and my story is, i had a fren whom always change HP got a desire and he sell off within 1 months... he verdict is nice to see and play with but complicated system... just like him some ppl prefer to have a phone which serve their needs and purpose and not to trouble him...
that is just some example of individual preference...
don flame me as i'm on the fence have yet to decide Android or Iphone, as i need a smartphone to support my job desperately... used WM b4 but the phones problematic already, major i could not really charge it, as it is a very old phone i don want to fix it... i only customize my phone for the 1st 3 months, after that i just use as it... as it meets my requirement/expectation already...
*** could you all get a better life, rather than spend you time here wacking others ppl... y don you try to work in a smartphone shop and see what's ppl want... the percentage of ppl wants simplicity or much more customizable smarts phones... and how many of them are really go and play with their customizable smartphones for months after buying it...
because you r in android forum dude... same like if post this thread at iphone thread
these kind of debates never end.. its your own money and u can choose which to buy...no1 force and put a gun at ur head to tell u buy android phone..
This thread ia actually pointless. More like android + iPhone bashing lolz~ Both phone has its great and weaknesses. Choose the one that you like, live with it and be proud of it. Period~
auto or mannual car...? manuual has tons more advantages to auto.. yet people sill choose auto..
but what u can use.. not what others tell u....
Yeah, that's so right after all.. OK.. make it as simple as we can.. iPhone and android.. Both have their own high-end features for smartphone family.. 1GHz processor, High res display, and even nice camera with huge pixels nowadays plus 720p recording anyone? It just the matter when iPhone users jailbreak their phones and Android users rooting theirs.. Both also will fully access the phone and can be granted as customizable smartphone.. easy to use or hard to use, both also same when applying to the smartphone.. it's either you wanna cross the limit or not.. ready to take the risk or not.. froyo and iOS4... both also have plus and minus.. one is trying to save the battery usage while the other one is fully optimizing the performance.. one with flash support, while the other one with html5 or whatsoever.. expensive? android also has expensive phones nowadays (but consider affordable to midrange people).. just say it.. galaxy s? desire? nexus one? but maybe because of brand marketing, iPhones are slightly expensive and maybe some absolutely save their fulus to just get this Apple brand.. satisfying? to be truth, i own an android now.. and planning to get new android soon!! For me, iPhone just have their own exclusivity and target.. Not much to choose right? while android is spreading anywhere now.. not to say HTC, Samsung, Motorola, SE, and much more which showing their willingness to share with everybody!! I like to do comparison and see which company is fully using the advantage of the same OS... sounds like android right? If iPhone then, you can only compare with their predecessors.. 3GS, 3G, 2G... coz they are the only using it.. and of course the latest is the best..
Different people have different taste and choice..
This thread ia actually pointless. More like android + iPhone bashing lolz~ Both phone has its great and weaknesses. Choose the one that you like, live with it and be proud of it. Period~
Agree bro... somehow someone just cannot wake up~~
after reading 6 pages, i see more android fanboys who calls the iphone fanboy fanboy.
and what happens when android gets more users in the future ? R u gonna change to windows mobile or blackberry or symbian or webOS ? Since it is not cool anymore coz everyone is using android ?
Fanboyism needs to stop y'all. I think the samsung galaxy S is cool, but then, the iphone has better apps imo. For me im gonna wait for windows phone 7 before buying a new phone
after reading 6 pages, i see more android fanboys who calls the iphone fanboy fanboy.
and what happens when android gets more users in the future ? R u gonna change to windows mobile or blackberry or symbian or webOS ? Since it is not cool anymore coz everyone is using android ?
Fanboyism needs to stop y'all. I think the samsung galaxy S is cool, but then, the iphone has better apps imo. For me im gonna wait for windows phone 7 before buying a new phone
then, if gingerbread or android 3.0 released? iOS4x maybe? windows phone 7 will coming this end of year right? Except that u can hold on patiently to wait new OS from MS.. More choices r bro.. But then, which one do u think better to get updated faster, processing, and even producing nice widgets, interface and docks?? From the way Apple, Google and Microsoft launching new thing, if we look into productivity now.. Of course Google or Android is increasing, Apple or iOS getting slower increment compare than before with their antennagate prob now, while Microsoft is totally lost because their last 'interesting' project is WinMo 6.5 which anyone dare to compare with Android or iOS? Let say, HTC HD2 against Droid X.. Both has 4.3" screen right? WinMo 6.5 vs Android 2.1.. Same processor.. Just look at the lame interface HD2 which nowadays someone already flash it with Froyo or Eclair.. Why? Getting bored? Or because HD2 can't use Win Phone 7 at all? C'on, eventhough their Win Phone 7 get great feedback from mobile's bloggers, maybe during their launching time other company already fall in love to just get Android, Symbian, Meego or other Open OS to produce their own smartphone?
This post has been edited by faridaizuddin: Aug 2 2010, 07:29 AM
let's go back to the beginning of the question to conclude the answer.
why shld i switch from iphone to HTC (Android)?
let's define htc as legend, or desire u r a geek or nerd who - loves to tweaking, customize ur phone, chge the theme, colors, fonts, etc. - enjoys showing off de customized fone interface to ur frens n relatives. - always carry arnd a spare charger - loves to wear baggy pants
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QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Aug 2 2010, 08:38 AM)
let's go back to the beginning of the question to conclude the answer.
why shld i switch from iphone to HTC (Android)?
let's define htc as legend, or desire u r a geek or nerd who - loves to tweaking, customize ur phone, chge the theme, colors, fonts, etc. - enjoys showing off de customized fone interface to ur frens n relatives. - always carry arnd a spare charger - loves to wear baggy pants
@ bold : Talking about iphone ? My Android last me 3days at least
let's go back to the beginning of the question to conclude the answer.
why shld i switch from iphone to HTC (Android)?
let's define htc as legend, or desire u r a geek or nerd who - loves to tweaking, customize ur phone, chge the theme, colors, fonts, etc. - enjoys showing off de customized fone interface to ur frens n relatives. - always carry arnd a spare charger - loves to wear baggy pants
Oh great.. so now it's personal attack already?
by the way, do you even know what android is or what it can do besides "tweaking, customize ur phone, chge the theme, colors, fonts, etc."
@ bold : Talking about iphone ? My Android last me 3days at least
plz read carefully. i'm talking abt legend or desire.
abt ur 3 days usage, firstly using desire or legend? secondly, i'm sure u wld've downloaded some nifty program for it. but as u know, de average user doesn't do that and cldn't be bothered. that's y iphone with its superior battery life is de better choice if u dun want to carry the charger along.
plz read carefully. i'm talking abt legend or desire.
abt ur 3 days usage, firstly using desire or legend? secondly, i'm sure u wld've downloaded some nifty program for it. but as u know, de average user doesn't do that and cldn't be bothered. that's y iphone with its superior battery life is de better choice if u dun want to carry the charger along.
So what you're saying is: the average user won't be bother to download any apps/games to their phone right? then no need to get iphone or android la.. just a plain old nokia will do.. since those old phones are more capable (bolded on purpose) of performing "what a phone should do: calls/sms".. i guess that's what the general "average" people use anyway..
This post has been edited by allenlyk: Aug 2 2010, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(kentang_peranchis @ Aug 2 2010, 09:37 AM)
plz read carefully. i'm talking abt legend or desire.
abt ur 3 days usage, firstly using desire or legend? secondly, i'm sure u wld've downloaded some nifty program for it. but as u know, de average user doesn't do that and cldn't be bothered. that's y iphone with its superior battery life is de better choice if u dun want to carry the charger along.
Does it even matter legend or desire ? Your saying bigger by 0.2inch will cause us to wear baggy jeans ? HELL NO.
I don't download anything, seriously. Just normal usage of GPS, foursquare, FB, calls & SMS. Oh ya some market surf around too.
And superior battery of Iphone ? 9/10 iphone user around me told me their phone last me longest till night time from fresh charge / unplug from cable in the morning.
Add on : Oh ya and I don't need you to tell me whether I said a foul language or not
This post has been edited by KTCY: Aug 2 2010, 09:51 AM
So what you're saying is: the average user won't be bother to download any apps/games to their phone right? then no need to get iphone or android la.. just a plain old nokia will do.. since those old phones are more capable (bolded on purpose) of performing "what a phone should do: calls/sms".. i guess that's what the general "average" people use anyway..
let's go back to the beginning of the question to conclude the answer.
why shld i switch from iphone to HTC (Android)?
let's define htc as legend, or desire u r a geek or nerd who - loves to tweaking, customize ur phone, chge the theme, colors, fonts, etc. - enjoys showing off de customized fone interface to ur frens n relatives. - always carry arnd a spare charger - loves to wear baggy pants
ur conclusion still not the answer dude
whats with the android only for nerds/geeks???? i think u need more exposure to the world,baby boy...
let me try answer ur "conclusion" 1. who on earth don't like to customize?even iphone have option to customize it..if u dun like customize then dun drag other people too.. 2. i believe iphone users more on this point than android..i used to show my apps(using iphone) to my friends last time... 3. sry,we don carry charger..we carry extra battery 4. =.=" thats all
please,i mean PLEASE get your facts RIGHT before you "conclude" it..
This post has been edited by hihihehe: Aug 2 2010, 04:52 PM
then, if gingerbread or android 3.0 released? iOS4x maybe? windows phone 7 will coming this end of year right? Except that u can hold on patiently to wait new OS from MS.. More choices r bro.. But then, which one do u think better to get updated faster, processing, and even producing nice widgets, interface and docks?? From the way Apple, Google and Microsoft launching new thing, if we look into productivity now.. Of course Google or Android is increasing, Apple or iOS getting slower increment compare than before with their antennagate prob now, while Microsoft is totally lost because their last 'interesting' project is WinMo 6.5 which anyone dare to compare with Android or iOS? Let say, HTC HD2 against Droid X.. Both has 4.3" screen right? WinMo 6.5 vs Android 2.1.. Same processor.. Just look at the lame interface HD2 which nowadays someone already flash it with Froyo or Eclair.. Why? Getting bored? Or because HD2 can't use Win Phone 7 at all? C'on, eventhough their Win Phone 7 get great feedback from mobile's bloggers, maybe during their launching time other company already fall in love to just get Android, Symbian, Meego or other Open OS to produce their own smartphone?
Until windows phone 7 comes out, we'll never know how often it will get updates or anything bout its apps. That's why im not gonna buy a new phone anytime soon. Maybe in december or early next year. By that time hopefully more cool phones come out, and the iphone4 antenna issue is solved, although it's not a big deal coz if i buy an iphone 4 i'll be using a case anyway.
And dont compare with winmobile 6.5 la. Every one knows it's crap lol. I personally tried the microsoft zune interface. And i like it. It's the same with windows phone 7.
Im gonna wait for my fren to install Froyo to his samsung galaxy S and try it again. The only thing i dont like bout the new android phones is the big screen. I dont need 4 or 4.3 inch. Even my iphone 3g is too big for some of my pants/jeans
whats with the android only for nerds/geeks???? i think u need more exposure to the world,baby boy...
let me try answer ur "conclusion" 1. who in earth don't like to customize?even iphone have option to customize it..if u dun like customize then dun drag other people too.. 2. i believe iphone users more on this point than android..i used to show my apps(using iphone) to my friends last time... 3. sry,we don carry charger..we carry extra battery 4. =.=" thats all please,i mean PLEASE get your facts RIGHT before you "conclude" it..
True true true... iPhone users make the most basic change, most commonly is the telco logo....
First of all, im sorry if there is another topic similar to this. Pls advise or move to according thread.
Running of Android made me tempting with HTC Desire (Linux kernel) but an Iphone with Unix kernel too. Both average quite stable. But based on your experience to those just changed to HTC, why changed to HTC (Android base) Software friendly how?
Ask yourself a few questions: What is it with the Desire that tempts you? Surely, it isn't because of the kernel. That's not something you can interact directly with. In what way are you dissatisfied with your current phone?
If you can't decide for yourself, stay with your iPhone.
let's go back to the beginning of the question to conclude the answer.
why shld i switch from iphone to HTC (Android)?
let's define htc as legend, or desire u r a geek or nerd who - loves to tweaking, customize ur phone, chge the theme, colors, fonts, etc. - enjoys showing off de customized fone interface to ur frens n relatives. - always carry arnd a spare charger - loves to wear baggy pants
my HTC HERO can last for 3 days with CM6... wanna bet?
Added on August 2, 2010, 9:07 pm
QUOTE(guppy @ Aug 2 2010, 05:53 PM)
Ask yourself a few questions: What is it with the Desire that tempts you? Surely, it isn't because of the kernel. That's not something you can interact directly with. In what way are you dissatisfied with your current phone?
If you can't decide for yourself, stay with your iPhone.
bro, to be honest, i always thinking UNIX & LINUX much better & stable than any other OS..no doubt iOS is one of the finest platform too..but i choose android is due to its OPEN SOURCE.. and i belive if apple open d iOS..i would love to give it a try...
This post has been edited by bonanno: Aug 2 2010, 09:07 PM
after reading 6 pages, i see more android fanboys who calls the iphone fanboy fanboy.
and what happens when android gets more users in the future ? R u gonna change to windows mobile or blackberry or symbian or webOS ? Since it is not cool anymore coz everyone is using android ?
Fanboyism needs to stop y'all. I think the samsung galaxy S is cool, but then, the iphone has better apps imo. For me im gonna wait for windows phone 7 before buying a new phone
Apa ko bebel ni mat? ko nak masuk dlm list of iphone users who think too highly of themselves ke? if u read carefully most ppl here are just responding to the dude with his non-stop generalizing of the android users as nerds who don't have anything better to do. If you can't read btwn the lines then mmg sah la iphone fanboy kan?
munky, u pay the peanut u get the monkey windows? not so good as android/iphone
Added on August 2, 2010, 11:51 pmmy conclusion im gonna jump into Android, theres a lot of lack with my iPhone 3G to me - even capalang Nokia can using bluetooth but not with my iphone, - battery normal usage cant last longer compared to HTC - quite slow, its 3g not 3gs - open source open minds
This post has been edited by xjukie: Aug 2 2010, 11:51 PM
yes, SOFTWARE.. android OS u can use GOOGLE MAPS WITH VOICE NAVIGATION after rooting.. Iphone still cannot... but can use PAPAGO or TOMTOM after JB.... too GREAT~~
No rooting required sir. I just use my friend legend to download Maps[Brut] directly from phone and install it. Itz good to go! I used to use iphone 3g n 3gs, so i can surely tell u tom tom sux, papago is alrite, but map is crap. try using papago in perlis den u know wat i mean. I uses N1 now. FTW
QUOTE(llobak @ Jul 14 2010, 11:34 AM)
i think iphone is just for ppl that wanna have fun n don mind customizing their phone.
android is just the type of phone that enable u to do all the customization. you can make your phone totally diff from others. now that google is going to launch(or already launched?) the software that enable ppl to make apps even without the knowledge of programming. you can simply create any simple apps for your own.
iPhone is for ppl who want iPhone because it's an iPhone. they dun even know wat it does n wat it dont. you will see what i mean
QUOTE(deora @ Jul 14 2010, 12:41 PM)
with android phone..u can hold whatever way you like without signal lost..but with iphone4...just simply hold hold then no signal liao..LOL
munky, u pay the peanut u get the monkey windows? not so good as android/iphone
Added on August 2, 2010, 11:51 pmmy conclusion im gonna jump into Android, theres a lot of lack with my iPhone 3G to me - even capalang Nokia can using bluetooth but not with my iphone, - battery normal usage cant last longer compared to HTC - quite slow, its 3g not 3gs - open source open minds
Windows Phone 7 still remain to be seen. Seems interesting in some sense. the problem is, it still has the squarish input-field design
This post has been edited by vinlimyh: Aug 3 2010, 01:46 AM
No rooting required sir. I just use my friend legend to download Maps[Brut] directly from phone and install it. Itz good to go! I used to use iphone 3g n 3gs, so i can surely tell u tom tom sux, papago is alrite, but map is crap. try using papago in perlis den u know wat i mean. I uses N1 now. FTW iPhone is for ppl who want iPhone because it's an iPhone. they dun even know wat it does n wat it dont. you will see what i mean lmao. and no jacket required!
Added on August 3, 2010, 1:46 am
Windows Phone 7 still remain to be seen. Seems interesting in some sense. the problem is, it still has the squarish input-field design
hahaa...nice ads...same as Droid aka Milestone ads back in 2009
Apa ko bebel ni mat? ko nak masuk dlm list of iphone users who think too highly of themselves ke? if u read carefully most ppl here are just responding to the dude with his non-stop generalizing of the android users as nerds who don't have anything better to do. If you can't read btwn the lines then mmg sah la iphone fanboy kan?
ok everyone knows that dude is trolling. Why cant they just ignore him or take the high road and reply like some of the other posters here who actually cared to post with some elaborations instead of retaliating ? The way they reply makes them look like fanboys. And if u read carefully, im just responding to those ppl who responded to the dude who was generalizing non-stop of the android users as nerds who don't have anything better to do.
And if im a fanboy, i wouldnt even think of switching to other phones. I would have updated my iphone 3g to iOS 4. No no, i would already decided on buying iphone 4. Geez....
Added on August 3, 2010, 3:11 am
QUOTE(vinlimyh @ Aug 3 2010, 01:42 AM)
No rooting required sir. I just use my friend legend to download Maps[Brut] directly from phone and install it. Itz good to go! I used to use iphone 3g n 3gs, so i can surely tell u tom tom sux, papago is alrite, but map is crap. try using papago in perlis den u know wat i mean. I uses N1 now. FTW iPhone is for ppl who want iPhone because it's an iPhone. they dun even know wat it does n wat it dont. you will see what i mean lmao. and no jacket required!
Added on August 3, 2010, 1:46 am
Windows Phone 7 still remain to be seen. Seems interesting in some sense. the problem is, it still has the squarish input-field design
Engadget already did an in depth preview of it. I think the squarish design is kinda cool. Although it might look boring after some time
Hopefully the apps will be just as good as the iphone's and android's
This post has been edited by munky: Aug 3 2010, 03:11 AM
ok everyone knows that dude is trolling. Why cant they just ignore him or take the high road and reply like some of the other posters here who actually cared to post with some elaborations instead of retaliating ? The way they reply makes them look like fanboys. And if u read carefully, im just responding to those ppl who responded to the dude who was generalizing non-stop of the android users as nerds who don't have anything better to do.
whats wrong with fanboy? you have any problem with that?
No, as long as u do it under some threads like kopitiam or something specifically for it
So, this's android's forum.. There's someone trying to ask why do he should switch from iHoldyourphoneright to Android.. Then, we androidianz trying to solve his "the right way to do now before you're too late!!"
Added on August 3, 2010, 7:25 am
QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Aug 2 2010, 10:53 PM)
Apa ko bebel ni mat? ko nak masuk dlm list of iphone users who think too highly of themselves ke? if u read carefully most ppl here are just responding to the dude with his non-stop generalizing of the android users as nerds who don't have anything better to do. If you can't read btwn the lines then mmg sah la iphone fanboy kan?
Yeah, that's right.. Someone already trying to play with Android's flame now!!
This post has been edited by faridaizuddin: Aug 3 2010, 07:25 AM
ok everyone knows that dude is trolling. Why cant they just ignore him or take the high road and reply like some of the other posters here who actually cared to post with some elaborations instead of retaliating ? The way they reply makes them look like fanboys. And if u read carefully, im just responding to those ppl who responded to the dude who was generalizing non-stop of the android users as nerds who don't have anything better to do.
And if im a fanboy, i wouldnt even think of switching to other phones. I would have updated my iphone 3g to iOS 4. No no, i would already decided on buying iphone 4. Geez....
Obviously when u come to android forums there's gonna be android fanboys, same thing if u go to iphone forums theres gonna be iphone fanboys. But the difference is, if u notice, even if theres even a slightest hint of trolling (even when the dude is trying to make a joke) in the iphone forums here in LYN, the post will definitely get deleted. So can i say that most iphone fanboys can't take a joke coz they think too highly of themselves. Elitist fanboys much? Coming in to android forums and calling android users fanboys is a stupid thing to do. So that says alot even if you're trying to act smart. In fact you've just proven what most ppl think of what sort of ppl most iphone fanboys are.
Obviously when u come to android forums there's gonna be android fanboys, same thing if u go to iphone forums theres gonna be iphone fanboys. But the difference is, if u notice, even if theres even a slightest hint of trolling (even when the dude is trying to make a joke) in the iphone forums here in LYN, the post will definitely get deleted. So can i say that most iphone fanboys can't take a joke coz they think too highly of themselves. Elitist fanboys much? Coming in to android forums and calling android users fanboys is a stupid thing to do. So that says alot even if you're trying to act smart. In fact you've just proven what most ppl think of what sort of ppl most iphone fanboys are.
Yes, I agree with your points there. It's not possible to post anything banning iPhone over at their forum. Just read the first post of their every thread to know the reason why.
Haha. We need a mod for Android forum too. Be a friendly one and not like those iPhone mods.
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 3 2010, 01:15 PM)
Yes, I agree with your points there. It's not possible to post anything banning iPhone over at their forum. Just read the first post of their every thread to know the reason why. Haha. We need a mod for Android forum too. Be a friendly one and not like those iPhone mods.
@ bold : yes. we need one. Too messy already for android board.
Obviously when u come to android forums there's gonna be android fanboys, same thing if u go to iphone forums theres gonna be iphone fanboys. But the difference is, if u notice, even if theres even a slightest hint of trolling (even when the dude is trying to make a joke) in the iphone forums here in LYN, the post will definitely get deleted. So can i say that most iphone fanboys can't take a joke coz they think too highly of themselves. Elitist fanboys much? Coming in to android forums and calling android users fanboys is a stupid thing to do. So that says alot even if you're trying to act smart. In fact you've just proven what most ppl think of what sort of ppl most iphone fanboys are.
Sorry i rarely go to the iphone thread so i dont even know if posts get deleted or not. Up to u what u want to say bout the iphone fanboys.
After all, what the TS wanted was a healthy discussions (yes im very sure of that). And then that kentang guy came in with all his android bashing. And the annoying thing is ppl keep on feeding the troll. And my post was clearly directed to these ppl. I dont care if it's android or iphone thread. Why cant everyone just have a healthy discussions without bashing each other ?
Yes, I agree with your points there. It's not possible to post anything banning iPhone over at their forum. Just read the first post of their every thread to know the reason why. Haha. We need a mod for Android forum too. Be a friendly one and not like those iPhone mods.
somehow,i got no problem with mod at iphone..i mean he did a great job to keep the forum clean except a bit of strict..
just imagine everyday also got ppl pop in and create new thread regarding how to fix this,why cant connect internet,etc when there was a pinned thread created for troubleshooting the problem...
we can't say anything bad on iPhone.. imagine, i saw someone tried to create a new post regarding on iPhone problem in Mobile Phone section but it has been closed by the mod (they ask him to create post in Apple section).
but when we post something "bad" it Apple section, it will be deleted.
conclusion, if you want to use iPhone, simply listen, obey, and agree with everything they say. they wont listen to the customer. if you can't, then don't use iphone.
Sorry i rarely go to the iphone thread so i dont even know if posts get deleted or not. Up to u what u want to say bout the iphone fanboys.
After all, what the TS wanted was a healthy discussions (yes im very sure of that). And then that kentang guy came in with all his android bashing. And the annoying thing is ppl keep on feeding the troll. And my post was clearly directed to these ppl. I dont care if it's android or iphone thread. Why cant everyone just have a healthy discussions without bashing each other ?
Perhaps im expecting too much Nvm
Pls continue with the discussions
How do u expect ppl to respond to you if you just come in here and simply label ppl as android fanboys? Benda simple pon tak paham?
10 out of 10 htc desires i had sold, customers come back and complain dat the battery only lasts abt 1/2 day. phone calls and sms volumes were average. then of coz, ask them to try out for 2 weeks to get the battery fully working. after dat mostly is one day usage. bcos of dis, always got screwed by dem bcoz recommend pariah fone.
tried searching de internet and lowyat.net/android for the answers but there is hopeless solution. den finally de reply is “if u want improved battery life, dun use it dat way”
finally de solution to them is, “to improve de battery life, u must disable de facebook/twitter/push emails etc” den got screwed a 2nd time because customers always say “if i disable all those functions, why the heck i want to pay so much for? those are supposed to be its selling point right? right?”
now, i always advise my customers to choose htc androids unless they intend to live a geeky and nerdy lifestyle. if they want a stylish smartphone with all de necessary apps functionality, best UI and excellent battery life, better choose the iphone.
not suprisingly, until now nobody complained abt iphone ever since started selling 6 months ago.
10 out of 10 htc desires i had sold, customers come back and complain dat the battery only lasts abt 1/2 day. phone calls and sms volumes were average. then of coz, ask them to try out for 2 weeks to get the battery fully working. after dat mostly is one day usage. bcos of dis, always got screwed by dem bcoz recommend pariah fone.
tried searching de internet and lowyat.net/android for the answers but there is hopeless solution. den finally de reply is “if u want improved battery life, dun use it dat way”
finally de solution to them is, “to improve de battery life, u must disable de facebook/twitter/push emails etc” den got screwed a 2nd time because customers always say “if i disable all those functions, why the heck i want to pay so much for? those are supposed to be its selling point right? right?”
now, i always advise my customers to choose htc androids unless they intend to live a geeky and nerdy lifestyle. if they want a stylish smartphone with all de necessary apps functionality, best UI and excellent battery life, better choose the iphone.
not suprisingly, until now nobody complained abt iphone ever since started selling 6 months ago.
go figure!
you selling phone now huh? what phone available? and the price pls...
I was reluctant to reveal my job here. Otherwise u may think sumthg else. But no choice hv to show hand, bcos androiders hv started to run wild. My shop is subang parade. It's opposite a shoe repair shop Maxis signboard
From my past experience with both i3g and i3gs, I never managed to get 1 full day battery life when I use the phone as a smartphone. I don't do many calls but a lot of sms, web browsing and emails on 3g connection plus playing some games. Normally the phone would only last for 6 to 8 hours top, in which I bought an external battery to prolong its use. And for the same reason, we see a lot of iphone external battery being sold in the market. So I can't actually say iphone has an excellent battery life, as a normal phone maybe yes, but if you start using all its features, which is why you bought the phone in the first place, you need to have extra battery or be close to a wall socket.
10 out of 10 htc desires i had sold, customers come back and complain dat the battery only lasts abt 1/2 day. phone calls and sms volumes were average. then of coz, ask them to try out for 2 weeks to get the battery fully working. after dat mostly is one day usage. bcos of dis, always got screwed by dem bcoz recommend pariah fone.
tried searching de internet and lowyat.net/android for the answers but there is hopeless solution. den finally de reply is “if u want improved battery life, dun use it dat way”
finally de solution to them is, “to improve de battery life, u must disable de facebook/twitter/push emails etc” den got screwed a 2nd time because customers always say “if i disable all those functions, why the heck i want to pay so much for? those are supposed to be its selling point right? right?”
now, i always advise my customers to choose htc androids unless they intend to live a geeky and nerdy lifestyle. if they want a stylish smartphone with all de necessary apps functionality, best UI and excellent battery life, better choose the iphone.
not suprisingly, until now nobody complained abt iphone ever since started selling 6 months ago.
go figure!
Aiya, u sell phone ah? Ur customers are misleaded. All those batt draining fast issues can be solved one. ... where got car can drive all the way from Perlis to Johor for RM10 only. ... simple theory ma. ...
Aiya, u sell phone ah? Ur customers are misleaded. All those batt draining fast issues can be solved one. ... where got car can drive all the way from Perlis to Johor for RM10 only. ... simple theory ma. ...
I know htc desire has a weak battery life before I buy it, but I didn't regret at all, nor do I complain, because I got free car charger being the first 200 customer haha, on average use I can last 1 and a half day with all notification on, not bad actually,its the same as u buy a bigger cc car u burn more fuel, if u want a extreme juicey phone, dont buy a smartphone
Well then.. My friend is using 3GS now.. And 1st thing i ask him is battery usage because this problem even GSMarena team observe about it.. Even till iphone 4, the battery is can't be changed if spoil or what.. Maybe that's why Apple manage to sell millions of their phones? "battery spoil? Get new one r bro!!" Yes, my friend only said that if he use his 3GS for phone call for about half an hour sometimes the battery left 50% only.. And then, watch video for half an hour after that, a warning come out to connect the charger..
Added on August 4, 2010, 8:10 am
QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Aug 3 2010, 12:37 PM)
I own Nokia 5800xm and planning to change to HTC. is it a good move?
absolutely!!
This post has been edited by faridaizuddin: Aug 4 2010, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(faridaizuddin @ Aug 4 2010, 08:09 AM)
Well then.. My friend is using 3GS now.. And 1st thing i ask him is battery usage because this problem even GSMarena team observe about it.. Even till iphone 4, the battery is can't be changed if spoil or what.. Maybe that's why Apple manage to sell millions of their phones? "battery spoil? Get new one r bro!!" Yes, my friend only said that if he use his 3GS for phone call for about half an hour sometimes the battery left 50% only.. And then, watch video for half an hour after that, a warning come out to connect the charger..
Added on August 4, 2010, 8:10 am
absolutely!!
Second that. Iphone battery really sucks else there won't be so many third party battery pack selling around even in PC Fair
I was reluctant to reveal my job here. Otherwise u may think sumthg else. But no choice hv to show hand, bcos androiders hv started to run wild. My shop is subang parade. It's opposite a shoe repair shop Maxis signboard
statistics, like many other thgs is dangerous when put in the hands of ppl who dun understd it. let me show u how to think on a slightly deeper level, market share of apple had dipped in Q2 becos news of new model launch made many ppl postpone their purchases. furthermore like all new models, under-estimating market demand and delays in production further reduce apple's mkt share.
but i expect with the blockbuster launch of iphone4 and if apple can keep up with the production, for sure apple's share will increase in Q3 and Q4.
2ndly, with iphones blazing de trail for touch smartphones, de only way for other vendors to keep up is to use the free android os. and i must say, it is the right decision.
QUOTE
Geeks have more brand loyalty
A consumer survey reveals that geeks are likely to spend more on the products they like and stay loyal to their favourite brands. Geeks are also more susceptible to advertising ploys and buy more goods online.
The survey, undertaken on behalf of tech website Geeknet and market research agency Forrester Consulting and released July 27, was conducted across the United States, Britain and Germany.
It divided respondents into three categories, "IT Geeks," "tech geeks" and "non-geeks."
IT geeks were defined as working in information technology or other jobs involving hardware or software, while tech geeks don't work in IT but agree that technology is important to them and is something they regularly follow.
The survey found 20% of geeks from both categories agreed that advertisements helped them decide what to buy, compared to only 12% of non-geeks; 25% of geeks purchased the advertised product or service online whereas only 16% of non-geeks did the same.
As well as being more susceptible to advertising, geeks were also more loyal to their favourite brands with 60% of geeks versus 17% of non-geeks agreeing that when they found a brand they liked they "stuck to it."
In addition to brand loyalty, geeks were also more likely to pay more for products they liked and 29% of geeks agreed that "owning the best product is important to me," whereas only 14% of non-geeks thought the same.
With viral advertising campaigns, online supermarkets and phone apps playing an increasingly important role in everyday life, technology is no longer the preserve of a knowledgeable few, but geeks may still be the ones to ask about new innovations - 53% consider themselves "the person who knows more about an interesting trend," while only 22% of non-geeks felt the same way. - Relaxnews
from the figure, it is clearly said that iPhone demand will increase in 3rd quarter to 4th quarter every year.. then it will drop again. but who will going to stop android? from the figure we can see android will continue increase steadily at a fixed rate, and there is no sign and no factor for the demand to decrease.
same situation war between Mac and Windows in early 90s.. but this time, iphone need to fight with Android (much more "powerful Windows", take not that!)
This post has been edited by epool86: Aug 4 2010, 11:54 AM
from the figure, it is clearly said that iPhone demand will increase in 3rd quarter to 4th quarter every year.. then it will drop again. but who will going to stop android? from the figure we can see android will continue increase steadily at a fixed rate, and there is no sign and no factor for the demand to decrease.
same situation war between Mac and Windows in early 90s.. but this time, iphone need to fight with Android (much more "powerful Windows", take not that!)
let me teach u the way of smart thinking...
android was almost zero mkt share last year but becos efforts by htc, motorola, samsung this year had picked up significantly. of coz, like what i had mentioned, this was bcos android junk is just sailing in the winds behind the mighty apple aircraft carrier.
anyhows there is no reason to say or even think android trend will continue to next year except got historical data to back up.
btw this discussion shld be in a separate thread by itself.
that is why i refer to Mac VS PCs wars.. Microsoft choose to distribute their OS through various manufacturer, at the end Windows won (95% PCs in this world using Windows).. same to Android, Google choose to make it open and distribute it through hp manufacturers (that explain why Google discontinue Nexus One), while iOS will be exclusively for iPhone only.
iOS also be used in iPad, but Android soon will come out with various tablet similar to iPad, then again iOS will lose.
while Android become matured day by day (similar to iOS now version4 already), we will see the real Android strength in 3.0 (Gingerbread) by year end. it just matter of time, android start a little bit late but is catching up very fast :-)
i am not sure why u are so "skeptical" on Android. what is wrong with android? if i may asking you? you look so "uncomfortable" to see android continue to grow and become matured OS.
android was almost zero mkt share last year but becos efforts by htc, motorola, samsung this year had picked up significantly. of coz, like what i had mentioned, this was bcos android junk is just sailing in the winds behind the mighty apple aircraft carrier.
anyhows there is no reason to say or even think android trend will continue to next year except got historical data to back up. btw this discussion shld be in a separate thread by itself.
and please,source... don post "blindly"
and agree to last statement from eppol86,did android(google) did something to u?
anyway iphone's battery not really great..i managed to get it through 2nd day by off automatic sync,no push mail and apps,off everything that will sync itself.. but i enable it on my galaxy s and EASILY survive through 2nd day
so ya,don try to say respect other forumers here,bla bla bla.. just get your real facts right and WAKE UP!!!
What does Android do to piss you off so much until you denounce it?
As a former iOS, Symbian60, SymbianUIQ, WinMo6.1 and current Android user, I know exactly the pro & cons of every of it but I don't diss any of it for the sake of trolling.
I went to iPhone thread, there's a troll. I went to Symbian thread, there's a troll. I went to Windows Mobile thread, there's a troll.
None of them gave any constructive reason why it sucks. Instead generalizing the common issues which can be found in all os.
Android is a less rigid alternative to iOS. It's for people and developers who want more freedom. You can't stop something like that. Yes, Android may just be riding on Apple's success, but then everything has to start from somwehere. Even if you want to denounce history of art and create an art no one has done before, you'd still be basing this 'new' art on the history, because only then you'll know what no one has done before. Everything's created based on something. Android was created because of some lacking in all the OSes in the world including iOS. Simple. I think Apple will continue to have marketshare success no so much due to the iOS alone but due to marketing and overwhelming development support. It's not the Holy Grail by a long shot so we shouldn't treat it like it is.
android was almost zero mkt share last year but becos efforts by htc, motorola, samsung this year had picked up significantly. of coz, like what i had mentioned, this was bcos android junk is just sailing in the winds behind the mighty apple aircraft carrier.
anyhows there is no reason to say or even think android trend will continue to next year except got historical data to back up. btw this discussion shld be in a separate thread by itself.
now let me teach u how to think smart.. all OS are getting better and even smarter than their predecessor... do u have any point why does Google merged with other manufacturers just to meet users' need no matter in what cases, Texas Instruments, Broadcom Corporation, HTC, Intel, LG, Marvell Technology Group, Motorola, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Samsung Electronics, Sprint Nextel, T-Mobile, PacketVideo, ARM Holdings, Atheros Communications, Asustek Computer Inc, Garmin Ltd, Softbank, Sony Ericsson, Toshiba Corp, and Vodafone Group Plc.. How about Apple and it's iOS? (anyone interested to join with?? Oppsss!! sorry... other company need to 'jailbreak' Apple first.. ) And the fact is.. iOS was unveiled on 2007 while Android 2008.. So, for nowadays figure with Android is climbing a little bit high (don't mention about percentage growing ) and late for a year revealed.. Does it make any sense for Google for it own brand and Android tagline "an OPEN OS'?? I don't think Google need any back up in future time being as that number "4" is already going down a bit and so far i know, Apple will only release new OS every once a year which mean they have to fight using iOS4 with upcoming "official" Froyo 2.2 and Gingerbread 3.0 anyone??
kentang_peranchis... Androidianz only have one way of thinking.. Getting faster, reliable and being smart without criticizing other competitor..
Added on August 4, 2010, 10:25 pm
QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Aug 4 2010, 10:12 AM)
my choice would be HTC wildfire or legend. Okay or not?
your budget please??
This post has been edited by faridaizuddin: Aug 4 2010, 10:25 PM
that is why i refer to Mac VS PCs wars.. Microsoft choose to distribute their OS through various manufacturer, at the end Windows won (95% PCs in this world using Windows).. same to Android, Google choose to make it open and distribute it through hp manufacturers (that explain why Google discontinue Nexus One), while iOS will be exclusively for iPhone only.
iOS also be used in iPad, but Android soon will come out with various tablet similar to iPad, then again iOS will lose.
while Android become matured day by day (similar to iOS now version4 already), we will see the real Android strength in 3.0 (Gingerbread) by year end. it just matter of time, android start a little bit late but is catching up very fast :-)
i am not sure why u are so "skeptical" on Android. what is wrong with android? if i may asking you? you look so "uncomfortable" to see android continue to grow and become matured OS.
+1 Apple still don't realize how they down on l last century
android is de only viable touchscreen os in de market. let me explain. for normal users, considering UI aesthetics, security, function and stability, it is not de best, not even 2nd best. the best is still iOS and followed by webOS. 4get abt symbian touch n windows mobile. bcos there is no way for htc, sony ericsson & motorola to get iOS or webOS, the only choice is android, which of course is free.
and of course ppl will buy android bcoz these desperate manufacturers put their best machines to use android. u think normal users gives a rat's arse to customizing, changing fonts, downloading widgets, etc?
no! they bought android bcoz those brands put in hd video, high megapixel, slim to attract customers.
of coz, i foresee android will stop growing and only appeals to techno geeks and nerds. after normal users get fedup with the weak battery life, technical mumbo jumbo, un-natural touch ui.
and every normal user who used iOS b4 simply cannot use android OS. and the iphone is the most style in de mkt right now. with most selection of apps.
apple is unbeatable and is de best choice for normal users. but it won't appeal to geeks or nerds who goes crazy over android for its customization.
i realize this guy keep saying apple is the best, iOS the best without giving proper valid point of argument to support it. How can you convince others?
And stop being stereotype , saying ALL android users are geek, techie or wateva you call it. You're just making yourself look shallow, Mr phoneSellerThatKnowsItAll.
This post has been edited by jujx: Aug 4 2010, 11:11 PM
android is de only viable touchscreen os in de market. let me explain. for normal users, considering UI aesthetics, security, function and stability, it is not de best, not even 2nd best. the best is still iOS and followed by webOS. 4get abt symbian touch n windows mobile. bcos there is no way for htc, sony ericsson & motorola to get iOS or webOS, the only choice is android, which of course is free.
and of course ppl will buy android bcoz these desperate manufacturers put their best machines to use android. u think normal users gives a rat's arse to customizing, changing fonts, downloading widgets, etc?
no! they bought android bcoz those brands put in hd video, high megapixel, slim to attract customers.
of coz, i foresee android will stop growing and only appeals to techno geeks and nerds. after normal users get fedup with the weak battery life, technical mumbo jumbo, un-natural touch ui.
and every normal user who used iOS b4 simply cannot use android OS. and the iphone is the most style in de mkt right now. with most selection of apps.
apple is unbeatable and is de best choice for normal users. but it won't appeal to geeks or nerds who goes crazy over android for its customization.
omfg..for god's sake,would u read the post made by the people here before u repeat and repeat? from the 1st post u made until now still the same,iOS is the best and android for geeks/nerds..
seriously what problem do u have?if u wan troll,then please troll far away..not keep repeating say the same thing and in the end get bashed..
and heard that u work as hp seller too isn't it?why don u close your darn shop and apply for apple reseller license??
sry to say that but u r making urself like a real IDIOT and FOOL here...in other words, "CLOWN"
The NPD Group: Motorola, HTC drive Android to Smartphone OS lead in the U.S.
Android now installed in one of every three smartphones sold at retail. BlackBerry OS share drops 9 points to 28 percent.
PORT WASHINGTON, NEW YORK, August 4, 2010 - Riding the wave of new handset introductions and wide carrier distribution in the second quarter (Q2), the Android smartphone operating system (OS) continued its upward climb in the U.S. consumer mobile phone market, according to The NPD Group, a leading market research company. For the first time since the fourth quarter (Q4) of 2007, RIM fell to second position, as Android took the lead among operating systems in handsets sold to U.S. consumers. NPD's latest wireless market research reveals that Android accounted for 33 percent of all smartphones purchased in Q2, ahead of RIM (28 percent) and Apple (22 percent).
"For the second consecutive quarter, Android handsets have shown strong but slowing sell-through market share gains among U.S. consumers," said Ross Rubin, executive director of industry analysis for NPD. "While the Google-developed OS took market share from RIM, Apple's iOS saw a small gain this quarter on the strength of the iPhone 4 launch."
Based on U.S. consumer purchases of mobile phones in Q2, the top 5 Android smartphones were as follows:
"Blackberry 6 will soon offer features that have been popular in recently launched Android handsets, such as support for capacitive touchscreens and a WebKit-based browser. However, the Blackberry Torch lacks the large screen allure that has characterized the best selling Android devices at its price point, including the Droid Incredible and EVO 4G," Rubin said.
Model selection and promotions continue to play a role in the race for carrier dominance. According to NPD's Mobile Phone Track, Verizon Wireless has maintained its lead among top carriers for the last three quarters comprising a third (33 percent) of the units sold in the U.S. mobile phone market in Q2, followed by AT&T (25 percent), Sprint (12 percent), and T-Mobile (11 percent). In Q2 Verizon Wireless continued their buy-one-get-one (BOGO) offers on all smartphones, including both RIM and Android models.
In spite of an overall decline in the number of mobile phones purchased year over year, the ongoing popularity of both messaging phones and smartphones, which are generally more costly than standard feature phones, resulted in slightly higher prices for all mobile phones in Q2. The average selling price for all mobile phones reached $90, which is a 3 percent increase since Q2 last year. Smartphone unit prices, by comparison, averaged $143 in Q2 2010, which is a 9 percent decrease over the previous year.
Data Note: The information in this press release is from Mobile Phone Track – NPD's consumer tracking of U.S. consumers, aged 18 and older, who reported purchasing a mobile phone. NPD does not track corporate/enterprise mobile phone purchases.
android is de only viable touchscreen os in de market. let me explain. for normal users, considering UI aesthetics, security, function and stability, it is not de best, not even 2nd best. the best is still iOS and followed by webOS. 4get abt symbian touch n windows mobile. bcos there is no way for htc, sony ericsson & motorola to get iOS or webOS, the only choice is android, which of course is free.
and of course ppl will buy android bcoz these desperate manufacturers put their best machines to use android. u think normal users gives a rat's arse to customizing, changing fonts, downloading widgets, etc?
no! they bought android bcoz those brands put in hd video, high megapixel, slim to attract customers.
of coz, i foresee android will stop growing and only appeals to techno geeks and nerds. after normal users get fedup with the weak battery life, technical mumbo jumbo, un-natural touch ui.
and every normal user who used iOS b4 simply cannot use android OS. and the iphone is the most style in de mkt right now. with most selection of apps.
apple is unbeatable and is de best choice for normal users. but it won't appeal to geeks or nerds who goes crazy over android for its customization.
this's simply ridiculous.. i dunno why did u said only geeks or nerds is go for android and normal users for iOS.. U should read more about how actually geeks and nerds life when they got any devices especially phone.. No matter Android, iOS even WinMo they already "tuned" them to become completely different than before!! Do u heard iPhone with Android on board which almost fully functioning except the battery?? HTC HD2 running on Android 2.2 Froyo which if u watch how they boot it then u urself will get dizzy after watch it?? C'on.. Don't just point your finger to others with your nonsense and endless point of view .. If u r a normal person.. then, just go and enjoy your life.. buy iHoldyourphone right.. Don't be like Steve Jobs.. Eventhough he's older enough but he's acting like a baby.. Don't wanna admit own problem and directly drag others into it..
android is de only viable touchscreen os in de market. let me explain. for normal users, considering UI aesthetics, security, function and stability, it is not de best, not even 2nd best. the best is still iOS and followed by webOS. 4get abt symbian touch n windows mobile. bcos there is no way for htc, sony ericsson & motorola to get iOS or webOS, the only choice is android, which of course is free.
and of course ppl will buy android bcoz these desperate manufacturers put their best machines to use android. u think normal users gives a rat's arse to customizing, changing fonts, downloading widgets, etc?
no! they bought android bcoz those brands put in hd video, high megapixel, slim to attract customers.
of coz, i foresee android will stop growing and only appeals to techno geeks and nerds. after normal users get fedup with the weak battery life, technical mumbo jumbo, un-natural touch ui.
and every normal user who used iOS b4 simply cannot use android OS. and the iphone is the most style in de mkt right now. with most selection of apps.
apple is unbeatable and is de best choice for normal users. but it won't appeal to geeks or nerds who goes crazy over android for its customization.
Wat i know is iphone users is more to gay n nyah groupies but android for the macho n maskuline groupies like we all....hahaha.
This post has been edited by khalpowers: Aug 4 2010, 11:46 PM
Stating: put in hd video, high megapixel, slim to attract customers. Lol...that's iPhone actually. Plus with heavy advertisement.
Yeah, that's right.. Slimmest phone so far... iPhone 4.. The only 'forced' ppi screen so far.. Retina, iPhone 4.. HD video.. don't wana mention about it as it's a normal features for upcoming high-end smartphone..
kentang_peranchis aka Steve Jobs wannabe
Added on August 5, 2010, 12:05 am
QUOTE(khalpowers @ Aug 4 2010, 11:54 PM)
chill bro!...hehe..
anyway.. wish u luck with your XT720!!
This post has been edited by faridaizuddin: Aug 5 2010, 12:05 AM
android is de only viable touchscreen os in de market. let me explain. for normal users, considering UI aesthetics, security, function and stability, it is not de best, not even 2nd best. the best is still iOS and followed by webOS. 4get abt symbian touch n windows mobile. bcos there is no way for htc, sony ericsson & motorola to get iOS or webOS, the only choice is android, which of course is free.
and of course ppl will buy android bcoz these desperate manufacturers put their best machines to use android. u think normal users gives a rat's arse to customizing, changing fonts, downloading widgets, etc?
no! they bought android bcoz those brands put in hd video, high megapixel, slim to attract customers.
of coz, i foresee android will stop growing and only appeals to techno geeks and nerds. after normal users get fedup with the weak battery life, technical mumbo jumbo, un-natural touch ui.
and every normal user who used iOS b4 simply cannot use android OS. and the iphone is the most style in de mkt right now. with most selection of apps.
apple is unbeatable and is de best choice for normal users. but it won't appeal to geeks or nerds who goes crazy over android for its customization.
I'm just curious...where does this 'techno geeks' term come from?
yeah..i love this thread too..to know why android is better than iOS but this dude is making me sick. Talking rubbish all along and i feel like he is playing around with you guys..well watever..i'll just continue reading..and ignore..as usual..ahah
I like his loyalty.some call it blind faith.but kentang, you need something new to convinced us. Good luck..you are free to speak here'.android forum won't delete your posting like others..
phone seller eh? no wonder why so may people complained about phone sellers and repair shops are not to be trusted. maybe you are one of those untrustworthy sellers that misinforms customers?
If android phones are that bad, stop selling it and turn your store into one of those Apple stores. get it?
phone seller eh? no wonder why so may people complained about phone sellers and repair shops are not to be trusted. maybe you are one of those untrustworthy sellers that misinforms customers?
If android phones are that bad, stop selling it and turn your store into one of those Apple stores. get it?
kentang_peranchis is one of example why there're somehow no Android devices at all at certain phone shop.. simply irritating... And please don't close this thread.. Coz i Love it!!
this is one example of truly die hard fan of iPhone, i respect his loyalty. steve jobs could run out of business without support from people like him.
anyway, most of topline model will get froyo update in coming weeks. i would say this will reduce the fragmentation issue.
and one more thing, i think we will see much more solid OS in Android3.0 soon, at this point i think Android will become more stable and trusted (escp in Corporate/Enterprise segment), who know with the recent "issue" with blackberry, if they will choose Android as a official mobile platform for their company in the future :-)
conclusion, android is getting better and better everyday, while Kentang can still continue with his beloved iPhone and his philosophy.
The mods in these android and windows mobile forums, I can see are open minded. I am a regular at the other iPhone and iPad forums too. If a chap like ken tang would post comments as such there belittling iPhone I can guarantee you his posts will be deleted. The mods there are very strict, sometimes too much. There are few there who take criticisms very personally and will attacked back as if is a great vengeance. I find all android chaps here are more mature. I have commented previously ken tang has every right to his opinion, I said I find him entertaining. Let him rant just ignore him. I have iPhone, nexus and hd2 all are great, all have their pro and cons. But I can clearly see apple pro guys are more fanatical to the extent of senseless and sometimes nonsensical in their opinions of other platforms. I love all my 3 phones but I only sleep with one. When I am ask by my friends which is better, my answer is always all are best and I will explain each feature to them. Based on my explanation, they can then decide which is best for them. For those who know me personally I pity those chaps who just like to critiicize just for the sake of it. I always view them as possessing an inferior complex and ranting against others a sign of self importance and self gratification. These I learn after working for the last 35 years with all sorts of personalities. You might consider me an old man who doesn't understand the newer younger generation but the fact is one dun prove own's worth and value by belittling others. Such chaps in my organization will always stay there right at the bottom rung. Such people however will be first class politician. I am guilty of this too when I start to talk about political issues
This post has been edited by benny888: Aug 5 2010, 10:06 AM
When I am ask by my friends which is better, my answer is always all are best and I will explain each feature to them. Based on my explanation, they can then decide which is best for them.
I agree with this. I don't think Android is for everybody. Sometimes it can be quite frustrating to use. I wouldn't recommend an Android to my mother, whom I know still uses classic candybar phones.
QUOTE(benny888 @ Aug 5 2010, 09:54 AM)
For those who know me personally I pity those chaps who just like to critiicize just for the sake of it. I always view them as possessing an inferior complex and ranting against others a sign of self importance and self gratifica
I'm an iPhone developer, but I have a HTC Hero, and I can see there are some things that iPhone does better than Android. The hardware and software is integrated better. The iPhone GUI feels faster, although it lacks Android's customizability.
I agree with this. I don't think Android is for everybody. Sometimes it can be quite frustrating to use. I wouldn't recommend an Android to my mother, whom I know still uses classic candybar phones.
I'm an iPhone developer, but I have a HTC Hero, and I can see there are some things that iPhone does better than Android. The hardware and software is integrated better. The iPhone GUI feels faster, although it lacks Android's customizability.
Depends on what I want ; if I want to read a ebook before i sleep - HD2 : The ebook features and functions is the best of the lot. Both Android and iPhones are way way behind. Music/watching my video podcasts - iPhone. Reading up latest tweets, facebook, RSS feeds, emails, browsing - Nexus I haver said before, I have the best of all world with me. As a daily phone Nexus. This might change as I am getting the iPhone 4 soon - is a natural progression, when you have something new you'd always want to use it to know it better
Agreed with you, my wife best phone is still her Nokia 1100 - simple as she use it only to call and some SMS. She always says I am more in love with my gadgets than with her !!! She said I crazy - go toilet always bring the phone and now even worse bring iPAD !!
As a developer you are right ; similarly other Android and Windows developer will have own opinions about theirs. The best and most beautiful aspect is , we the consumers will benefit and we have a choice in what we want
ok i'm a just a regular guy like anyone outside there who hasn't landed hands on any smartphones , most of my buddies are using Iphone , so of course i've played with it , but not HTC or any other brands ...
I'm actually deciding whether to get the new Iphone4 or HTC , so i hope forumers here can highlight without me going over so many pages ...
my basic needs for my smartphone gonna be :-
- clear calls , as in voice are sharp and clear - checking emails are priority - SMS are priority as well as a communication between client and I ... - easy to use interface , without me thinking much where to press or where to choose when in need of a function. - i need to write a lot of short notes especially - FB and MSN is an added bonus - durability as well , as i'm always on the go , i do have rough movement at times , so i want the phone to be slightly tougher while in my pocket.
i guess that's all i can think off and i hope ppl who had own both phone can really help me out , i'm not really a tech guy but i prefer a phone that work for me and not vice versa ...
Btw, if we refer to the article posted by mr potato, 5.2% of iphone 4 owners reported dropped calls? We know apple sold like 3 million iphones, so 5.2% from 3 million would be, 150000 owners?
This post has been edited by sanosizo: Aug 6 2010, 12:34 AM
Btw, if we refer to the article posted by mr potato, 5.2% of iphone 4 owners reported dropped calls? We know apple sold like 3 million iphones, so 5.2% from 3 million would be, 150000 owners?
hmmm not going to get something outdated .. hehe , since got a choice a new phone to replace my current one.
i'm going 2 have intensive reading of Desire and IP4 ... desire seems to have the upperhand
ok i'm a just a regular guy like anyone outside there who hasn't landed hands on any smartphones , most of my buddies are using Iphone , so of course i've played with it , but not HTC or any other brands ...
I'm actually deciding whether to get the new Iphone4 or HTC , so i hope forumers here can highlight without me going over so many pages ...
my basic needs for my smartphone gonna be :-
- clear calls , as in voice are sharp and clear Nexus one have noise canceling - checking emails are priority Android/iPhone can do it - SMS are priority as well as a communication between client and I ... Android have software call swype(watch youtube for better understanding of the software), but english only, no rojak2 - easy to use interface , without me thinking much where to press or where to choose when in need of a function. all smartphone you buy will have this problem for a while as you getting use to it, but after sometimes it will all go away - i need to write a lot of short notes especially android/iphone can - FB and MSN is an added bonus i think android have better social intergration - durability as well , as i'm always on the go , i do have rough movement at times , so i want the phone to be slightly tougher while in my pocket.search youtube for Galaxy S drop test
i guess that's all i can think off and i hope ppl who had own both phone can really help me out , i'm not really a tech guy but i prefer a phone that work for me and not vice versa ...
thanks in advance ...
i own galaxy S, if you want a phone that have no problem out of the box, i recommend desire. if you want a power phone for gaming also, go for Galaxy S, but probably you need to apply 1 and 2 tweaks to make your phone perfect.
normal user=desire daring=nexus one a lil bit more daring nexus= galaxy
PS: i dont own iphone....
This post has been edited by silentser: Aug 6 2010, 02:08 AM
ok i'm a just a regular guy like anyone outside there who hasn't landed hands on any smartphones , most of my buddies are using Iphone , so of course i've played with it , but not HTC or any other brands ...
I'm actually deciding whether to get the new Iphone4 or HTC , so i hope forumers here can highlight without me going over so many pages ...
my basic needs for my smartphone gonna be :-
- clear calls , as in voice are sharp and clear - checking emails are priority - SMS are priority as well as a communication between client and I ... - easy to use interface , without me thinking much where to press or where to choose when in need of a function. - i need to write a lot of short notes especially - FB and MSN is an added bonus - durability as well , as i'm always on the go , i do have rough movement at times , so i want the phone to be slightly tougher while in my pocket.
i guess that's all i can think off and i hope ppl who had own both phone can really help me out , i'm not really a tech guy but i prefer a phone that work for me and not vice versa ...
thanks in advance ...
in addition to basic phone functions, u use ur fone primarily for business and desire a lot of typing. since ur not a techie nerd, u won't be bothered to do a lot of customization, constantly seeking upgrades 4 ur fone, and i like ur
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i prefer a phone that work for me and not vice versa ...
based on ur requirements, neither iphone nor android will suit u. i recommend u blackberry curve or bold if u have higher budget.
android battery life is extremely short. if u have many calls or do a lot of activities, it will die within half-day. and even if u got techno-geek frens to help u download this and that software, optimize battery...u still must constantly carry a charger or 2 or 3 spare batteries (depending on usage) just to last the day.
furthermore, when u have rough movement in the pocket de huge screen of htc desire/moto milestone/samsung will be cumbersome and high risk of damage. unless of course, ur style is baggy pants but i suppose if u r the suit-wearing type, it is not possible!
lastly, even though blackberry screen may not be as sharp as androids but it is still readable.
Android battery life should be able to last at least 1 full day for heavy usage
I doubt anyone will need 2 (let alone 3) batteries for a day of usage. Of course, it's a good practise to bring the micro USB cable along in case you need to charge it on your laptop during working hour if you have a long day