I got a HTC Desire, IMO it's no where near the popularity and coolness of iPhone, the battery life isn't that great too. The main reason why I went for Android because it's cheap and suitable for poor people like me

Anyway, I'm still happy with it

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Jul 24 2010, 02:27 PM

Well yeah, I never dispute about the good OS. It's the general impressions that make Apple cooler. I was making decision between iPhone 4 and HTC Desire but I was just too lazy to wait and I can save some bucks by going for Desire.

I enjoy the convenience of having the device to sync all my mails and calendar (GMail and office e-mail), RSS feeds, twitter and facebook updates, weather, chat anytime I want via GTalk or MSN Talk, and surfing the web on a 480*800 3.7" screen. But many just won't understand, because they think:
- HTC stable meh? Always hang one wor (bad experience with Diamond and WinMo I guess)
- Android can play games meh?
- Seems like Android don't have that many apps right?
- Android good meh? Still new, sure very unstable hor

But anyway, not that I care The only problems I have so far are:

- Battery life could be better, hopefully a Froyo update can improve this somehow (don't tell me not to sync emails / turn off mobile data etc, because I think it defeats the purpose of the device)

- Slow updates from HTC - froyo has been there for some time but I'm still stuck with 2.1. They seem to be interested in making new devices rather than supporting existing devices. Sure we can root the device or go for custom ROM, but I still prefer official ones

Is the bump charging step to be repeated every time you want to charge, or it's a one off task?

Thanks mates, will try it out

Still new to Android and trying to learn how to make best use of it

iPhone did some good job not only in marketing, but design of the revolutionary touch screen as well.

3G technology was there since some time ago, Maxis introduced it since 2005 - but the problems is technology wasn't that advanced and although phones like Nokia N70 supported 3G, the device couldn't make best use of the technology and the coverage was pretty limited. WinMo back then was really limited to hardcore "business users" and to be frank the OS wasn't that stable

Credits to Apple for for being innovative and makes mobile data activities practical, but some ignorant iPhone users tend to think Apple "invented" a lot of stuffs such as those apps and games, push emails notification etc - a credit that developers , network and cheap labors in China should take instead.

Android came late in the market, and it's only normal for those people to think that Google is copying all the stuffs that Apple "invented", which is not 100% right

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Jul 25 2010, 07:36 PM

I don't see anything wrong with Android keyboard... I don't swype, I use the stock keyboard but I type without problem. In fact, I tried swiftkey and swype but still prefer the Android stock keyboard



So is that only what nerds can do but not general public?

So what's exactly the point you're making here? You just said Android can't get the keyboard right and now you say it's perfect but you just don't like it.

It's okay to voice out your opinions, but of course back yourself up with some points:
- super amoled can't compare to retina display, this is the power of apple
- unfortunately so far, android still unable to match apple's iOS masterpiece even though it was a seed of apple
- Choice, yes bcos it's open platform. But very unfortunately, no android maker can match apple in design. Besides, android kenot match iOS in ease of user friendly, wide practical use.

All the while you've been saying Android is "not quite there", and Apple iOS/iphone is masterpiece, without any further explanation. It's okay to have preference and brand loyalty, but there's no point to make comparison if you do not have enough technical knowledge on Android to support your view For example, you say Android cannot match iOs in user-friendliness - this is very subjective so at least give some elaboration on exactly which area gives you such feeling

No offense dude, I just want to improve the quality of the discussion here, and want to prevent this thread from becoming Apple vs Google war

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Jul 25 2010, 10:55 PM

- I never use iPhone keyboard extensively so can't compare - the point I was trying to make is that I've no problem with Android touch keyboard. I can type quite fast so far because the screen is big

- Retina display has higher resolution, you're right. But it also depends on which way you're seeing - Samsung's Super Amoled has bigger screen (4.3") and AMOLED is known to be more vibrant. And no, Super Amoled is known to improve a lot under sunlight compare to Amoled itself. It's up to personal preference in the end

- Sales figure doesn't prove the technical superiority... Apple sell well partly because of their brand-name, all the hypes and their superior good marketing.

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Jul 25 2010, 11:19 PM

Sorry, got it mixed up with HTC EVO

Still a bigger screen it is

Android battery life should be able to last at least 1 full day for heavy usage

I doubt anyone will need 2 (let alone 3) batteries for a day of usage. Of course, it's a good practise to bring the micro USB cable along in case you need to charge it on your laptop during working hour if you have a long day

Unluckily, being slim is not equal to being portable

Galaxy S has a 4.0" screen size and it's no where near to the thinness of a card, so you still feel "something" if you put it in your pocket (same goes for iPhone, Desire etc) if you have tight jeans. In that sense, I would think BB Bold is more pocketable than big touchscreen phones

Everyone got different needs I think, if she's happy with e72 then good.

But if she really needs 3 batteries for desire (which sounds ridiculous if you ask me as most people can settle with 1), I personally don't think she can settle with 1 battery for smartphones of other platform (apple or winmo) either - they aren't that much difference if you ask me, you get more performance and features in expense of battery life.

Just my 2 cents.

Personally I don't think touch UI has any issue, its such a good one to use on desire. Battery life isn't the best if you have to compare with Nokia e series but its reasonably ok for me considering the features it offers. Apps aren't that much as app store but I think it is catching up, I can find abundant of free apps without issue and quality is top notch.

and you say nothing is done by Google? Android OS is the most frequently updated one so far and its only getting better and better. I have nothing against Apple, its device looks cool and the platform is good too, just hope you can be more neutral on your view even we all know you really prefer iPhone. don't just say this is bad and that is bad in Android without anything to back yourself up just be fair in your points

And guys, at the end of the day its just phones, just a tool, don't get too personal about it and quality posts are welcomed!

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Aug 7 2010, 04:40 PM

Actually dvlzplayground, mind explaining on why the touchscreen is bad? I've been using it for couple of months and find HTC Desire touchscreen responsive and sensitive

It's a bit sticky without a screen protector and also a finger print magnet, but with a matte screen protector I find it perfect

Don't think it's Android limitation...

Look at Motorola Milestone XT720 Anyway, I've a Panasonic GF1 for real photography so the phone camera is really just for fun.

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Aug 26 2010, 10:35 PM

Developer view on Android
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iPhone-Google-...ml#xtor=RSS-998

Take a look at the thread - https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1479548

Not overly impressed with the colours though...

iPhone4 vs HTC Evo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg...player_embedded

Darn funny video... but don't take it too seriously, just good entertainment

About the menu "bouncing" thing as you suggested, I don't see what's so great about it. To be frank, I never have to scroll the phone book at all because it's so freaking easy to search with the dial pad rather than to scroll

I don't know what the boss is up to, I don't think it takes a geek or rocket scientist to learn how to use HTC Desire. It didn't take me more than an hour to learn it - maybe successful business man as you mentioned can't use anything else except having something with Apple logo on it

Again, I wouldn't be so clear cut and insist that one brand is better than another. Both OS are good and do what each other does. While iOS is better than Android in some area (more apps, better design), Android is better than iOS in other areas (open platform, web surfing speed,customization)...

Disagree, best or not is solely your opinion. Being a hand phone seller doesn't mean you're not biased and doesn't mean you represent all the mobile phone users in the world.

And I disagree as well your points on Android users belong to the geeky groups only who spent all time customizing their phones, doing coding and wearing 3cm thick glasses Being easier to customize is an advantage Android platform but it's perfectly fine to use on day-to-day basis as well.

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Aug 30 2010, 05:13 PM