it is the future, more customizable and also open source (which is most important)...

actually i'm also having my headache which to choose... Android or Iphone... which to choose... now the plan for 3Gs is quite tempting...

i don think so unless u root ur phone for "ahemm" softwares

haha yea... but in the end what you want from that phone... entertainment that it, and of course the main thing is the calls, sms and also mms... that serve the purpose of a handphone with entertainment...

frankly speaking those are calling Iphone user lame or pathetic might be one themselves too for android system... each system has their own advantage and also disadvantage, just like last time WM and Symbian, but i don like both... coz WM device will never last you 2 days of calls abusing and symbian system is not that user frenly... that is my say...

eg compare a N97 with Xperia 1/2... which will give you an upper hand???? WM or Symbian, Battery Life (talktime/stand-by time)???

i still can't make up my mind which to choose, android (desire) or iphone 3Gs... both has the thing that i want but both does not give me god talk time, well that i what i concern most, over 8hrs of talktime on the spec is more important than anything else... but again there is some stuff that u need to consider also, the UI interface friendliness, the file sharing also and lastly the problems of the phone and system itself...

just my single cents...

well hard to say with the current promo it is quite attractive...
BTW isn't it there a lot of ppl with smart phone already outside... Symbian and WM is everywhere and now BB also growing fast... so what you want to be special??? Android??? u r wrong it is not special at all my fren...
last time during WM and Symbian launching time has similar condition also, wow very good, multi function and plenty of stuff to play with... but now it is very slow now.... so it will happen to Android also...

what is desire, nexus 1 or Galaxy S... cheap phone with multitasking in some ppl point of view... want to look for special phone??? my boss last time using 1, Gold Edition Nokia 8800 if not mistaken for that phone with normal basic function only is it worth that much?.... that is special ppl will see u like "wow you are rich or special"

that is my common sense... there is nothing as cheap and not common... just like car... u buy Mitsu Lancer GT coz it is common, come on it is a common car anyway although i did not own one and can't afford 1...

BTW argue also no use as every individual has different preferences...
for me Iphone serve my purpose and currently with the price it is more attractive than desire coz it is cheaper for me with my kinda usage... but Desire is nice which is higher spec and it's battery is changeable, that is what i see the most obvious advantage of it over Iphone... OS customization, support more freeware, faster processor, better camera did not make much different as u think... simple and easy life for JB or rooting the phone as no trace after that, u need not to worry about warranty also

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jul 17 2010, 09:14 AM

tech geek i thought nor nerd haha... depends on individual preference, as i found ppl tends to say they bought the nicest things for themselves even though it is not...

i think the main purpose to get such these phone is mainly the cost of the things... coz android give you more freeware than apple, that is the main concern in malaysia coz ppl not willing to pay a few ringgit for the application and games they wanted

haha that material is posted in LYN long ago... so after u read it then u know there is a lot of Android fanboy over here

every individual has their own needs and own preferences...

what you said is around you la... you are force to buy a lot of things without ur concerns and customization als0, without ur knowledge... eg cars, house... even handphones, the list goes on there is a lot of things u cannot customize

don worry u don get video call camera on HTC haha...
there is always pro and con on every products....

haha... no need to argue with all the stuff as there is pro and cons also
so just get Galaxy S hope the samsung will last... as most of my experience is not good at all since 7 yrs ago....
sorry to say i banned samsung products already... cheers...


This post has been edited by michael9413: Jul 17 2010, 10:45 PM

haha, have to agree on u...

yes u got one but it is not on our shore (CDMA only)... and duno when it's twins will arrive...

cheers...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jul 17 2010, 11:08 PM

wat he said is right... ppl got individual preference... is just like you say Vios is a damn bloody old technology car, City is much better with better technology... but yet the sales of Vios is way better than City, face the facts it is... that is just because the car reliability is better, if you really want to know the reliability of Toyota vs Honda ask some ppl which really has 2 cars...

So that is just personal preference, well pls tell me what you wanna do with the Smartphone??? Main task (and yet after millennium also same) Calls & SMS... secondary, for business or sales or marketing ppl is checking their stuffs on the go eg. emails, appointments, to do list, view documents and etc; but for normal ppl is just entertainment, gaming, music, movies and etc... do you see the point there...

Android Fanboys face it, the phones with nice screen is HUGE (Desire, Galaxy S, Evo and a few others) in our pocket... it's apps in the market place is not as good as Apples Apps, and it is not filter, eg recently got a few of wall paper apps has the ability of hacking ur system... resource of apps unknown tends to have hacker living around the market place to intrude to ur phone... u also need to do something to ur phone to get full accessibility to the market like iphone (from what i read of)... and some of the smaller screen buddy will not able to upgrade to future system more than 2.2, but we are still waiting for news from google... and smaller screen buddy also will has limitation on apps too...

Iphone Fanboys face it, the phone's reliability is not that good, i could not change the battery if it is flat like some others smart phones... its limited connection to the worlds outside is a major inconvenience for all of the user... and the major thing is the system cannot be majorly customized to some geeks users...

what i see here there is a lot of fanboys in this thread, mostly is android...
you all only say what you think but u did not think in a neutral position where some user prefer to have a simple system where they can click and use, but some prefer to has modifications on the system... it is just personal preference...
u could not say to ur buddy like this: eg: "Bro, you gf/wife does not looks good at all, come on divorce/kick her off la... u can get a better ones..."
and my story is, i had a fren whom always change HP got a desire and he sell off within 1 months... he verdict is nice to see and play with but complicated system... just like him some ppl prefer to have a phone which serve their needs and purpose and not to trouble him...

that is just some example of individual preference...

don flame me as i'm on the fence have yet to decide Android or Iphone, as i need a smartphone to support my job desperately... used WM b4 but the phones problematic already, major i could not really charge it, as it is a very old phone i don want to fix it... i only customize my phone for the 1st 3 months, after that i just use as it... as it meets my requirement/expectation already...

*** could you all get a better life, rather than spend you time here wacking others ppl... y don you try to work in a smartphone shop and see what's ppl want... the percentage of ppl wants simplicity or much more customizable smarts phones... and how many of them are really go and play with their customizable smartphones for months after buying it...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jul 31 2010, 08:21 AM

and there will be "NO PERFECT THINGS" around... cos even human is not perfect...

cheers...

haha u say like this sure kena wack, there is a lot of android boys here where they hate iphone to death... but as a android user i find only 1 think... free apps that is worth it, but the apps sucks compare to iOS 1s and the touch screen is not a major problem though... but yes the precision of the touch is not as sharp as iphone... i played with my sis 3Gs and also a few desire and SGS b4... i think if you mean touch point sensitiveness and accuracy 3Gs have upper hand...
yea i might be using a wildfire and it lags sometime, but the android OS is fine with all the fine tuning... but how long can you play with the UI/OS mod??? that is very subjective... iOS is good but not perfect yet as iphone user main focus is the music and some others, but frankly iphone beats all of the androids in it's sound quality... but u need to download those lost-less sound files around 10mb/file to enjoy that and there aren't a lot of ppl appreciate that...

in the end is the war of mobile OS only... like symbian S60 vs WM vs symbian UIQ (se)... y S60 wins, cos of Nokia fanboys and coz nokia apply S60 to it's wide range of phones (although not all models have it but it is quite a large range also)... frankly speaking when S60 comes out a lot of ppl say it is very good... but after that WM6.0 and then iOS, and now the Android.. see how long it lasted since most of the manufacturer is coming out more and more of their own system... but u need to remember 1 thing, all the OS what they give you??? UI thats it... that is the general purpose of the OS, and there is not forever winner on this...

when you wack ppl say their iphone fanboyish and say android is the best, pls take a mirror and look urself... u are protruding as an Android Fanboy toooooo...
so don wack ppl saying iphone, android or even old java system that is good... that is very individual preference...
cheers...

well my wildfire as per tested about 2 weeks already... worst case, it did not last me a day (unplug 6am till 6pm, only left 15%~20%) with APN connection on and sync every hour on mails and weather... with about 2+ hours talk time and also some sms... i could not imagine if i really have a lots of calls in and out that day, sure the battery will die much more faster...

so do not hope that it will last you a day if you are really heavy user... but i have 2nd phone my trusted SE normal phone, where it's battery can last my abuse of calls for 1.5~2 days...
most of the smartphone is like that except certain which i see X10 got a good battery life... i think u can't get more than 5 android phones where can last you about 8hrs talk time on the data sheet...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Aug 29 2010, 08:48 PM

yes you are rite... what is the purpose to turn off the APN for better battery life... all i want is connectivity to the mail on the go... and most of us bought android cos of the flexibility of the connectivity and it's OS open sources...

wow that is quite intensively use, but calls is the one that sucks a lot of battery also... y not get another battery as back up??? if travelling around how??? coz 2 times a day wow... i haven fully abuse my wildfire yet but what i know is at least with about 70% of my intensively using rate it still survive my abuse of calls until 6pm... got once it manage to last me till 4:30pm (20% juice left)... that was a lot of calls and low APN usage, coz it have to off it if not it will not last till then... will try to fully utilize the juice and see how long can it last...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Aug 30 2010, 06:43 AM

well urs is not moderate use... hehe... lets exchanged phone and i try urs... i can finish it within 12 hours with my 3G internet use and call abuse... urs is not moderate use... my wildfire can't last me more than 1.5 days, that is during the weekend or public holiday...
btw all smartphones does not have good battery life except some only haha...