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post Jul 30 2010, 05:47 AM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jul 30 2010, 01:02 AM)
You mean the Apple LED Cinema display? can it be used by PC?
Photo kaki need this coz of it has the most 'true colour' or what?
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laugh.gif why not , ian using his 30" and 20" for his main rig before
but now he switch to all apple i think.
Apple LCDs / high end LCDs are using IP-S Panel which give the better color reproduction,
easier for you to fine tune ur photo smile.gif
I also wanted to buy Dell U2311H 23" IP-S monitor , for only Rm749 kinda best bang for bucks in
ips panel lcd smile.gif
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post Jul 30 2010, 11:14 AM

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I just spent a whole bunch of time reading about IP-S vs. TN.

In conclusion, IP-S will give better color reproduction at the cost of response time, right? Also.. Dell IP-S seems to have less bleeding and better contrast, but some problems with tint uniformity .

But overall, if you use your PC for EVERYTHING (movies, games, work, photo editing), a Dell IP-S seems to be the logical choice.

Looks like I'm moving more and more towards U2311H. Any alternative you guys recommend for a great 23"/24" all purpose monitor around that price range?
The Samsung P2370H and B2430H was my other choice, but people report bleeding issues with those Samsung TN panels.
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post Jul 30 2010, 11:32 AM

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The U2311H is now RM729..drop RM 20..haha
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QUOTE(5564321 @ Jul 30 2010, 02:43 AM)
http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/30-inch-cinema-display.htm
One of the review. They are well known for color accuracy demanded workloads. Of course expensive as well sweat.gif
If I am a serious photographer, I would get one of those as well.
Actually color accuracy is important for those who always do printing so the color on monitor will be same as printing.
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Thx for the link. I am just a casual photographer, but will definately have some research on this monitor. Malaysia selling price roughly how much?

QUOTE(5564321 @ Jul 30 2010, 04:55 AM)
Since you already bought it, what are you gonna do if its not not a good buy? blink.gif
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Sell it off and get a new one. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jul 30 2010, 05:47 AM)
laugh.gif why not , ian using his 30" and 20" for his main rig before
but now he switch to all apple i think.
Apple LCDs / high end LCDs are using IP-S Panel which give the better color reproduction,
easier for you to fine tune ur photo smile.gif
I also wanted to buy Dell U2311H 23" IP-S monitor , for only Rm749 kinda best bang for bucks in
ips panel lcd smile.gif
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He used this with PC? hmm....maybe i should check with him.
Ip-s monitor????? Hmm....another topic for me to study.
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post Jul 30 2010, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(5564321 @ Jul 30 2010, 04:55 AM)
Since you already bought it, what are you gonna do if its not not a good buy? blink.gif
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sell it off and buy a new one smile.gif ... i just want to know if its worth the price
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post Jul 30 2010, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(5564321 @ Jul 30 2010, 02:43 AM)
http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/30-inch-cinema-display.htm
One of the review. They are well known for color accuracy demanded workloads. Of course expensive as well sweat.gif
If I am a serious photographer, I would get one of those as well.
Actually color accuracy is important for those who always do printing so the color on monitor will be same as printing.
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Beware reviews written by hackers, not photographers. I've read reviews where the techie reviewer thought it was a defect that the Apple Cinema displays have no color temperature adjustment. Apples adjust the color temperature via the computer and color profile, not at the display. This is a great plus, not an omission.

The only real color temperature of an LCD is the color of the backlight when the screen is full white. The Apple Cinema display is fantastic precisely because the native backlight color is the standard 6500K for photography and video. I read one review by a guy who was guessing about photography and lamented the lack of a 5000K setting. 5000K is the wrong setting, and if you want it you can still get it on every Mac by going to System Preferences > Displays > Color > Calibrate and making a new profile. You can create new profiles on every Mac even without a hardware color meter as I use.

CRTs adjust their native white points by varying the outputs of their three electron guns. An LCD alters its white point away from the native backlight's white point by dimming the red or blue segments, as well as green. This isn't a native change. It also lowers overall brightness because you can't make any of an LCD's R, G or B elements more transmissive than they are at full native white.

Most LCDs, but not the Apple Cinema Displays, vary color and brightness when viewed at different angles. Any change to the native white point looks awful on these displays since different parts of your screen are seen at different angles. If you've changed the white to be something else then white documents look terrible, since the white color changes from top to bottom! The Cinema display doesn't have this problem, even if you alter the white point, because it looks the same from every reasonable angle.

An LCD needs its native white point to match your desired white point, and the Apple Display does this marvelously.


no individual RGB adjustment is great; >300cd/m2 brightness is great; the LCD color/contrast/gamma shift is cause by user alteration to the LCD's native white...pardon me but what a load of BS.

This Ken guy really know nuts about LCD display. doh.gif

for a pro, when color accuracy is critical, they will get this. for serious photographer, any decent VA/IPS panel is good enough--provided they also own a monitor calibrator.

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post Jul 30 2010, 09:02 PM

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The U2311H has tinting issue. You can see the colors on RHS and LHS are not same/uniform. Contacted Dell regarding this issue and see what they gonna do about this hmm.gif

Back-light bleeding is minimal and I don't really work under dark environment. No DP or BP as well.

Any other users of U2311H mind giving their comments?

This post has been edited by 5564321: Jul 30 2010, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(5564321 @ Jul 30 2010, 09:02 PM)
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The U2311H has tinting issue. You can see the colors on RHS and LHS are not same/uniform. Contacted Dell regarding this issue and see what they gonna do about thisĀ  hmm.gif

Back-light bleeding is minimal and I don't really work under dark environment. No DP or BP as well.

Any other users of U2311H mind giving their comments?
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I'm using U2311H and i have no idea wat tinting and bleeding problem looks like

so for me,this lcd is just awesomw!!!! rclxm9.gif

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post Jul 30 2010, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(V3nz @ Jul 30 2010, 09:22 PM)
I'm using U2311H and i have no idea wat tinting and bleeding problem looks like

so for me,this lcd is just awesomw!!!! rclxm9.gif
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tinting is... in simple words..one side of the monitor slightly different color from the other side.
(e.g. one side seems more orange and the other side seems more blue)
bleeding is backlight leaking. meaning that when the screen is supposed to display black, you can see some patches of white (usually from the edges of the screen).
not the technical definition, but it's the best i can come up with lol

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QUOTE(hydrogen @ Jul 30 2010, 09:25 PM)
tinting is... in simple words..one side of the monitor slightly different color from the other side.
(e.g. one side seems more orange and the other side seems more blue)
bleeding is backlight leaking. meaning that when the screen is supposed to display black, you can see some patches of white (usually from the edges of the screen).
not the technical definition, but it's the best i can come up with lol
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mean tat bleeding can only spot wif full black screen?

and how to spot the tinting then?for i dun see any difference on my screen sweat.gif
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QUOTE(V3nz @ Jul 30 2010, 09:36 PM)
mean tat bleeding can only spot wif full black screen?

and how to spot the tinting then?for i dun see any difference on my screen sweat.gif
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How much you buy your U2311? I forgotten dy
My Acer 19" color is too blue
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jul 30 2010, 10:42 PM)
How much you buy your U2311? I forgotten dy
My Acer 19" color is too blue
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rm679 if not mistaken nod.gif
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post Jul 31 2010, 01:18 AM

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For tinting issue, you can try to use my method. Just put a white background and see the screen.

Sample as the picture I uploaded at post #1067
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post Jul 31 2010, 02:46 AM

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Hmm whats the largest LED/LCD screen that I can get in Malaysia ? lol 99.99% for gaming biggrin.gif

Any recommendation biggrin.gif?
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QUOTE(5564321 @ Jul 30 2010, 09:02 PM)
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The U2311H has tinting issue. You can see the colors on RHS and LHS are not same/uniform. Contacted Dell regarding this issue and see what they gonna do about thisĀ  hmm.gif

Back-light bleeding is minimal and I don't really work under dark environment. No DP or BP as well.

Any other users of U2311H mind giving their comments?
Same thing with u2410.... luck of draw... mine was very minimal


Added on July 31, 2010, 8:22 am
QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Jul 31 2010, 02:46 AM)
Hmm whats the largest LED/LCD screen that I can get in Malaysia ? lol 99.99% for gaming biggrin.gif

Any recommendation biggrin.gif?
That easy....size, the LCD TVs...... for resolution the 30inchers (2560x1600).... there are larger sizes or/and resolutions but not readily available in MAL.

Actually for largest seamless displays.. 3 or more LCD projectors with AMD/ATI Eyefinity... you can exceed some displays in cinemas, even the highest res. ones in Malaysia... 6 x 1080p projectors in cine-scope arrangement...

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QUOTE(5564321 @ Jul 31 2010, 01:18 AM)
For tinting issue, you can try to use my method. Just put a white background and see the screen.

Sample as the picture I uploaded at post #1067
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I try to observe my screen for 5 mins,i see no difference at all,lol laugh.gif

is it my eyes not sharp or my lcd really no problem? rclxub.gif
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I just bought a new lcd monitor which is the Asus VH222. Have not opened it yet as I am feeling a bit regretful. Lol. Before I open the box in case I do want to return it, just wondering if I will see any difference in visual performance between my current Dell LCD monitor SE198WFPI with the Asus VH222. Thank you!
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Jul 31 2010, 02:46 AM)
Hmm whats the largest LED/LCD screen that I can get in Malaysia ? lol 99.99% for gaming biggrin.gif

Any recommendation biggrin.gif?
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the bigger resolution on the lcd u get the more gfx power u need.
it going to be struggle to play new game on bigger screen later smile.gif
so keep it at full HD res icon_rolleyes.gif 24 inch more than enough for gaming smile.gif
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post Jul 31 2010, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(BeastX @ Jul 31 2010, 08:19 AM)
Same thing with u2410.... luck of draw... mine was very minimal


Added on July 31, 2010, 8:22 am
That easy....size, the LCD TVs...... for resolution the 30inchers (2560x1600).... there are larger sizes or/and resolutions but not readily available in MAL.

Actually for largest seamless displays.. 3 or more LCD projectors with AMD/ATI Eyefinity... you can exceed some displays in cinemas, even the highest res. ones in Malaysia... 6 x 1080p projectors in cine-scope arrangement...
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Did you went to replace your Dell LCD? I was thinking whether I shall keep it or exchange it. I don't feel like getting a refurbished one as a replacement. doh.gif
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QUOTE(5564321 @ Jul 31 2010, 03:48 PM)
Did you went to replace your Dell LCD? I was thinking whether I shall keep it or exchange it. I don't feel like getting a refurbished one as a replacement. doh.gif
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i think you can get a new 1 within 7 days.... if i din remember wrong.
and the tint issue can be easily spotted using grey background instead of white~ smile.gif i spotted this problem in my u2410 while surfing DELL forum (grey background) tongue.gif

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