Topic to discuss Full CKD Cars for Tax Exempt Purchases under MM2H / REP / Talentcorp.

This post has been edited by mavericksam: Feb 14 2014, 03:04 PM

Audi..coming soon..
Nissan Senta,
Nissan Silphy,
Nissan Vannette
Nissan Serena
Nissan Latio,
Peugeot 206,
Peugeot 407,

Not mistaken Citroen are also CKD, please confirm on this.

This post has been edited by b48753: May 7 2010, 05:28 PM

I don't think Peugeot 407 and Nissan Sylphy is a full ckd. could you confirm that? Anyone could confirm this?

Both Volkswagen and Audi have plans to put a assembling factory in Malaysia. Means CKD from both of the brands!

the most expensive CKD car you can get here is the S500, just a few ringgit short of 1million IIRC

next up is the 3series if not mistaken

And oh, both Peugeot 407 and Nissan Sylphy are CKD indeed.

Sources: Peugeot | Nissan

why forte not CKD?

all pugs as of now is CKD...and for TS info, there is no FULL CKD, only CKD

Forte is an open secret. It is 100% CBU and declared as CKD upon reaching MY. All they did was to take off the rims prior to loading in Korea.

Good for consumers as they can enjoy CBU cars at CKD prices. However, local players such as Proton and Perodua will make lots of noise.

This post has been edited by acbc: May 7 2010, 07:05 PM

guys... i do understand that the pug and forte are CKD and that perception to public is that there is no such thing as full ckd, but when you go to those guys to buy tax exempt cars, truth to be told, they will tell you that coz these are not full ckd cars, thus they can't conform to the MM2H (malaysia my second home) or the Returning Expert Program.

Well... have a friend who has tried to buy a pug in that manner but failed...

anyway thanks for the input. do appreciate it...

Hello anybdy mine to help what does CKD, CIF and CBU means. I cant comprehend what u guys are saying.Thanks

CBU = Completely Built Up (means cars are imported as a whole)
CKD = Completely Knocked Down (means cars are imported by parts and assembled locally)
CIF = Cost, Insurance and Freight (when you need to import anything, this is your so call total cost before taxes and usually this is the amount to be taxed)

This post has been edited by mavericksam: May 7 2010, 07:40 PM

3 series...C class....E class...S class...5 series...volvo xc90...peugeot 308....i think 7 series also?

R8..?

just buy your car at your current country. You can even apply to buy from other country in case you are in a LHD country. You are qualified for the program? don't waste it. Get 2 big cars back. But remember you cant sell it within 2 years (even you sell it, buyer need to PAY back the tax) so dont think about profit in this program.

I wish i have the AP. hahaha...

Anyway trying to buy it from another country will bound to have some problems... especially on financing...

bmw 3 series, 5 series
honda accord, city, civic, crv
merc c200k, c230k, e200k, e230k, e280k, s300, s350, s500
nissan latio, sentra, serena, sylphy, xtrail
peugeot 308, 407
suzuki swift
toyota avanza, innova, vios

The AP is issued when you apply for this program. Most important for you is actually DONT BACK yet. Once you are back. you are ineligible for it. Can i know what qualification you are using to apply for that program?

like it or not. the fact is all proton's are ckd.

i am not the ap holder. just know someone who is. anyway she is already back, so there is no point for cbu cars coz she wouldn't be able to get it. only choice left is the ckd. she has already applied and gotten the approval before she was back.

yeap..noises due to rattling dashboard

So, how did your friend manage to find out which vehicle is is entitled to the tax exemption. It is difficult to find this information from the Net.

It doesnt matter "FULL" CKD or "partial" CKD...

Crony company can make the car mean "CKD"... mean it is entitle to much lower duty/tax...

BMW CKD list http://www.bmw.com.my/com/en/general/downl...elpricelist.pdf

partial CKD? I kenot brain.

I just return from overseas and have got my 2 ckd cars approved.

I wonder is it possible to buy 2 cars and sold it later ? I have read someting about the car cannot be sold and if wish to transfer onwership / sold later need to pay the duties .

Thank for the advice

Did you use the Returning Expert Program? I believe you can't sell it within 2 years once purchased, after 2 years the buyers will need to declare and repay the tax on the vehicle. But practically I have no idea how this work, you can contact the authority and find out more.

Mind if you could share your purchase info? e.g. what car did you get and how much tax saving you got?

Cheers!

ya
share with us wat car u bought n the price =)

how does this work? do they give the tax back in cash or the dealer just discounts it or how?

i'm also planning to use this in a few years time if it still exists

hi guys. Have you found out how it is possible to resell the car after 2 years? The info that I got is not very clear.

Quote from TalentCorp:
If I were to purchase my CKD vehicles tax-free, how long must I hold them before I am allowed to sell them off? Will I be paying any taxes when I sell them off?
Once you have purchased your two (2) CKD vehicles tax-free, you must have them in possession for a minimum period of two (2) years before you are allowed to sell them off to a third party. The third party will be responsible to pay to the Government any taxes payable incurred on the CKD vehicles depending on the make and model. Both cars must be registered under the recipient's name.

From the above, it seems that:
1. You CANNOT sell the cars off within first 2 years, AND
2. When you do sell if off after 2 years, the buyer has to pay the same amount of tax exempted in the beginning. No matter how old the car is during the sale.

Er, so there's no loop hole. Correct?

I think it should be the 3rd party need to pay the taxes on the depreciated value and not the taxes on the original price.

Hi Guys.. i attach few files to help those who need the REP progress to get 2 free CKD cars.


1) Get Talencorp approve (1 month) after submit all documents

2) Get Chasis Number and Engine number from your agent (after booked) (2 month, due to special make, tax free)

3) pass 2 Talent Corp letter to agent for the duty free car (allow agent to release the or endorse under your name)

4) Apply the Final letter from Minister of Finance (MoF), this can apply thru smpc.treasury.gov.my with engine, chasis, tax code information available from agent at step 2 with 5 working days (need Hasil Tax account). (this is final letter for JPJ and agent to release the car)

5) Enjoy your car.


CKD

forget to add in.. .Volkswage Passat is CKD now..which mean entitle for tax free.. (Price RM 140K if not wrong)

Proton (also can...but less 4k only)
Merc, C, E , S class
BMW 1,3,5 series
NISSAN , Teanna , Sphly, and more
Mazda 3 (sedan , and hatchback)
Peugeot (408, 308, 207?)
Honda (accord, civic, city)
Toyota (vios, now > camry)
and more...


LandRover few model
volvo might be...



This post has been edited by kinx: Jun 15 2012, 10:23 PM

Called Proton and spoke to a season Proton dealer. They claim they do no support REP scheme. Too bad.

As for Honda, only City (-RM20K), Accord, Civic (non Hybrid) and CRV (-RM30K) are under these scheme. The rest of the model not CKD.

This is based on 2012 info.

This post has been edited by dchk: Oct 11 2012, 03:58 PM

Which landrovers are CKDs?

Hello. I feel very inclined to respond to this thread so I've just registered in Lowyat. I've just returned to Malaysia under the REP so have been looking around for the best deals lately. Here is what I've learnt

1 - The tax free from excise duty and sales tax is granted to MM2H, REP and ADUN
2) Choices are limited and mostly the waiting list will be well over 3 months
3) When you book a CKD car with a dealer, first thing they need to do is allocate you with a chasis and engine that has not been paid for tax and duty. This is the problem since mostly all chasis and engines are paid for when they arrive. You see, when you make a booking, the dealer will actually have to book a chasis and engine under your name, meaning they will have to wait for new stock to arrive from overseas. Unfortunately, the carmakers will only order when the current stock is nearly finished. This is why the wait is at least 3 months, and it can span up to more than 6 months.
4) So finally when the chasis and engine is booked under your name, then only they can submit your application to MOF for tax relief entitlement. This can take about 2 weeks to a month (unless you know someone who is able to help you).
5) The list
a - Honda
Honda City, Civic and now Jazz will take you well over 3 months since they do not have new incoming stock. As for CRV, the turnaround time might be quicker since its old model
b - Volvo
I've been to Volvo and they do keep stock of non-paid tax chasis and engine so you can get your car between 1 to 3 months. The V60 (150k) and S60 (140k) will blow you away with their futuristic features, 1.6 turbo charged engine and 5 year warranty on parts and labour and roadside assistance!
c - Mazda
Only Mazda 3 at the moment. Price between 85k and 105k. The good nes is they do keep stock of non duty paid stock so you can gt your car in a month!
d - Hyundai
Hyundai Elantra have to wait 3 months, but Santa Fe and i10 they have ready stock. unfortunately Tucson is not CKD
e - Kia
Kia Sportage 130K wait 3 months. Kia Forte they may have non-duty paid stock
f) Merc and BMW
Never checked BM, but for Merc they do have allocation for tax free vehicles in their stock
g - Peugeot
Forget Nasim, since they do not entertain Tax Free customers.
h - Others
Watch out for Subaru XV and Mazda CX-5 coming early next year and 2nd quarter. I didn't bother with Nissan because they don't love Malaysia customers. Look at the European models like Qashqai and Juke and you know what I mean. Perodua will only give you up to 5k discount. Proton NO discount. Toyota have bland choices and the Camry CKD tax free price is only 30k discount or so..

damnnnn volvo s60 140k only, fuuuuu

BMW 320i, 320d, 328i, 520i, 520d, 528 M-sport, X1 18i, and X1 20d

Hi, any idea if the 7-seater Volvo SUV or MPV is CKD? I am eyeing the xc model.

No secret on this one

Model Market price - Tax free price = savings

S40 2.0 RM169,950.00 -RM109,508.86 =RM60,441.14
V50 2.0 RM185,950.00 -RM124,684.04 =RM61,265.96
V60 T4 RM230,000.00 -RM151,823.22 =RM78,176.78
V60 T5 RM269,000.00 -RM182,398.66 =RM86,601.34
S60 T4 RM220,000.00 -RM148,072.22 =RM71,927.78
S60 T5 RM255,000.00 -RM170,007.28 =RM84,992.72
XC90 D5 RM355,000.00 - RM244,868.69 =RM110,131.31
XC90 T5 RM355,000.00 - RM221,203.45 = RM133,796.55
XC60 T5 RM299,950.00 - RM215,755.37 = RM84,194.63
S80 T5 RM268,000.00 - RM189,997.44 = RM78,002.56
S80 T5 Exclusive RM295,000.00 - RM210,697.60 = RM84,302.40

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Added on October 20, 2012, 6:09 pmFrom all the offers, I was most impressed with Volvo.#
Yes, people complain about the high prices of parts etc... but Volvo is offering Free maintenance for 5 years - including parts!

Imagine, you're on the way to Penang, and your car broke down in the middle of the highway. Call the Volvo roadside rescue and they will come to you - either give you a loan car so that you can continue your journey, or book a hotel for you if the need arises!

I'm officially a Volvo promoter!! haha

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This post has been edited by SantaBarua: Oct 20 2012, 06:15 PM

seriously...I would get volvo without thinking...specs are better than BMW...built quality is better imo than BMW 3 series...I'd get V60 T5

Yes the V60 has come a long way from V50. The built in electronic safety features built into this machine is 2nd to none. Checkout Youtube for Volvo S60/V60 safety features and you will be amazed... at least I was!

put heico or r-design bodykits on it and it looks sexy as hell....too bad the r-design is not available in malaysia...but heico can be bought from fed auto i think...if u can get V60 T5 at 180k...take the savings and add the full bodykit with the rims...

Santabarua. But Volvo is associated to high maintenance

This post has been edited by dchk: Dec 18 2012, 12:34 AM

quite surprising when i asked about VW Passat CKD model the price quoted is 142k++ not much of saving

The more i look into this thread

I feel like an idiot buying a car in Malaysia.

Feeding those Uxxx cronies

Honda did publish their MM2H price openly. not sure if this price is same as REP?

chizzu, for Honda and Volvo, the identify REP as PAKAR. I am currently trying to get a Honda, but the waiting is a real killer.

i see. i am still undecided on what car to get yet and next year there will be a lot of new models i hope

Well basically there are many car make you can choose unless you have a big budget allocation. Then again, even with the tax exemption, the car manufacturer is making a killing by increasing the price.

Here is a case for example

Honda Accord 2.4 - Publish Price RM174K
- After tax Exemption - RM115K
- Year End Discount - minus RM14-15K, so price is RM100K

How is it possible Honda Malaysia can give such a big discount unless they are still make a huge margin from their car.

do they give year end discount for REP as well? Since the car needs to be ordered instead of year end model?

I am waiting for new Honda Accord or CRV 2013 model coz i dont think they are giving discount for REP.

If that is so then, i might consider it!

Yes. But depends on dealer.

mind PM me the dealer you asked? Thanks

if given tax exemption...why still go for honda??

Not all car make are CKD. Aside from Honda, Toyota and Volvo, others have only have handful of models to choose.

true...does BMW or Merc SKD fall within the category? They've changed the rules I think, my mum's beautician got a Merc C200 for 150k new through MM2H programme....

Again, only selected models.

yup, BMW and Merc does have some CKD models.

but budget doesnt permit

Well, at the end of the day, the pay in Malaysia is still low and does not commensurate with the spending for such cards even with the tax exemption.

yes, after taking in account of service and maintenance cost (for BMW, Merc and Volvo) you will end up spend more than you intended to for a car.

Yes. But depends on dealer.

Yes! Honda wait is a killer! Through PAKAR REP MM2H you wait 4 months for Honda to sit on your order and then submit MOF onky takes a week and then god knows what you will still be waiting for because at the end of the day you get your car after 6 bloody months.

If you order Volvo or Mazda or nissan GURANTEED 1 month delivery

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Added on December 18, 2012, 6:24 pmYes agreed. You only buy a volvo if you have 5 figure salary and you buy to keep...

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Added on December 18, 2012, 6:27 pmYes same as Naza Kia as well as Hyundai Inokom.. it just means that the tax demanded by govt is lower

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Added on December 18, 2012, 6:29 pmEither you work overseas and return as PAKAR or become ADUN member.. you will be entitled to the tax break..

This post has been edited by SantaBarua: Dec 18 2012, 06:29 PM

I asked Nissan they said 3 months wait as well

Sorry for the misinfo. It has to be depend on model then. I only asked for xtrail...

BMW , 1 , 3, 5 series all CKD. (hints, 528i tax free is RM299k)
Mercd C, E ,S (300,350) are CKD. (C200 205K tax free)

Honday and Nissan carry most CKD model. average 3 months waiting, in fact government is really fast ( around 1 week), just the car plant company pending to get your tax free chassis number and submit to MOF for exemption. tax free car is "special" treatment before release to customer, because it not paying tax, the car need to be allocate for exemption.

why, i know this, coz i driving Pakar program tax free Madza 3 now.

i see. i was looking at D segment cars.

Os far i have looked on Honda Accord, Nissan Teana and VW Passat.

Sadly there is no much choice.

add: the best affordable car for C Segment is Honda Civic, if based on the resale value after 3 years. OTR. 2.0 RM85 ONLY!

According come to second. 100K+

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Added on December 18, 2012, 7:49 pmPeugeot (308T, 3008, 408): not price advantage coz the car already cheap in price, same as KIA Forte as well.


Nissan Teanna 2.5, Volvo, VW, Accord, Camry (yes, the ugly model).


better: BMW, Mecr, Land Rover is not mistaken also

This post has been edited by kinx: Dec 18 2012, 07:51 PM

I wish I have the ability to get a BMW or even merc but its way out of my league. The maintenance cost is enough to make my pocket burn.

Guess only Japanese car then

Which model of land rover is CKD?

I don't think land rovers are CKD anymore....if they are...it would be the defender...they used to make 1st gen freelander here...not anymore

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Added on December 18, 2012, 10:28 pmVW Passat maintenance would not be that far off from accord or camry....plus more fuel efficient...but of course a lot of people criticise the looks...camry is plain ugly...accord is alrite...but new model would be coming...is it worth it?

This post has been edited by chuakz: Dec 18 2012, 10:28 PM

Other CKD models are
Hyundai i10, santa fe, Elantra
Honda Jazz & Jazz Hybrid, city, accord, crv, civic
Subaru XV
MAZDA 3
Nissan Almera, Teana, Livina, xgear
BMW 3 series, 5 series and X1
MERC C Class & E Class

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Added on December 18, 2012, 10:39 pmHey kinx. Whats your 2nd 2nd option then since youre allocated with 2?

This post has been edited by SantaBarua: Dec 18 2012, 10:39 PM

I don't mind Passat coz I am trying to stay low profile but my parents prefer Japanese cars for the convenience of service and maintenance. (Yes I am buying a car for my parents)

vw service is quite extensive if u r in klang valley...other places i'm not sure...in melaka its convenient as its right in the middle of town...depends which state

now the only problem is to convince my parents to get the more expensive passat

If i were to have more money i wouldve gone for it. too bad I am not in a financial state to get 2 cars.

old timer's syndrome huh? they always stick to their old fashioned thoughts, including my parents as well...=)

For those looking for SUV or crossover, can consider the recently CKDed Subaru XV. the price is about 40k lower than the retail price.

Definitely Honda Civic 2.0


else Subaru XV also very good deal now. 100k+ (no tax)

That's not bad at all then the price! As long as you don't mind the size. Not big at all I went to see at the showroom but was disappointed by the boot space... but u get a higher sitting position and 4 wheel drive..

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Added on December 27, 2012, 11:16 pmEhh u already have a mazda 3 what civic will be the same segment. Go try the XV lah or wait for crv..
Just my opinion but the decision all yours..

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Added on December 27, 2012, 11:25 pmChizzu, I dont think u should delay this any longer because you know going through this scheme is already a long winded affair. Worse if you're opting for the jap cars that could drag you a further 6-7 months (happening to me with honda right now). For all you know the 2 years may already be up!

This post has been edited by SantaBarua: Dec 27 2012, 11:25 PM

I don't mind waiting as my wallet is not ready for this yet. Haha. Slowly looking around and get the best deal.

Will post more info for the deals I found here hopefully will be helpful for others albeit the info might be a bit outdated.

Any idea what's the waiting period for the XV?

Coming from Tan Chong, similar to Nissan, the wait list should not be more than 2.5 months, provided you have all proper documents ready.

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Added on December 28, 2012, 8:56 amYou are right. When I started looking out, I had trouble getting the price and delivery lead time. Ended up, have to rely on Lowyat forum. Even calling the car dealership is a hit and miss situation. That being said, the price do fluctuate up and down depending on the time you intend to purchase due to price fluctuation/promotions.
add
Maybe we should have a link up with contribution from forum members and REP applicants to provide some much needed input for ease of surveying.

Let me see what I can come up with and hopefully community contribution will add more value.

This post has been edited by dchk: Dec 28 2012, 08:56 AM

Care to share how much you bought your Mazda 3 so that we can compile the price for future reference?

Mazda 2.0 Hatch back Metalic RM108k - i bought with upgrade to leather seat (prior to the FL come with free leather seats)

The 1.6 version came to a total of 89k otr. I was quoted that. Hatchback version add 5k

hmmmm. if only the mazda 3 with skyactiv come to Malaysia... i will consider that

Chizzu I was told by the kind manager at mazda that they are now only concentrating on mazda6 which has just launched few months ago. When this dies down then they will concentrate on the cx5 ckd version, and then maybe the skyactive cbu. We are looking at at least another year at least..

mazda quality alot better compare with H And T. The handling is superb.

I am actually looking forward for cx5 ckd model with skyactiv engine. It's in my list together with subaru xv and crv 2013. Not really fancy crv but cx5 is quite desirable. I think cx5 is larger than subaru xv since its an SUV while xv is a crossover

Cx5 is a great choice. The current waiting list still 6 months for new orders. I wonder why Mazda is not concentrating on the CKD version because demand is already over supply..

Went to a couple of showroom to get more details on REP tax free prices.

VW: Passat price is 142,245.45 (146,814.65 with insurance)
Hyundai: the sales girl never heard of REP/MM2H
Peugeot: Only 6k off on all their CKD models. Reason being all their models are already sold at price without tax.

kinda disappointed with Peugeot offerings.

This post has been edited by chizzu: Jan 22 2013, 07:30 PM

Nissan Teana OTR (with insurance)
2.0 comfort 102,053.08 (105,834.78)
2.0 Luxury 106,049.08 (109,834.78)

2.5 V6 126,085.04 (131,016.34)

im sorry but, how do you get that price for passat? on the official site, its 170+k.

ever heard of MM2H ?