thats why, if the price is close to civic..no way i am going for elantra

Heart words.

Wiki can help to answer u

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle

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Added on December 27, 2011, 10:47 pmThen go for 1.6 so that you don't have to compare with Civic.



This post has been edited by Chongkor: Dec 27 2011, 10:47 PM

errr....so 1.8 interior may not be black ?

100% agree. I dunno why so many ppl like to say 'cents per km' when fuel price can fluctuate. The international standard is L/100km or km/L

Is it really that hard to reverse the calculation?

9/10 of my customer catch no balls when I say L/100km. They're always saying 'wah, so high' until I translate them into cent/km. What's the point of following international 'standard' when no one tries to understand what's efficient and what's not?

The other question to highlight my point is 'Full tank how much?', if I answer litre capacity, they'll give me the puzzled look and ask 'How much per tank?'

I do have L/100km figures if you all wants it. So here they are

1.6 Manual - 6.1L/100km
1.6 Auto - 6.7L/100km
1.8 Auto - 7.1L/100km

I am not too sure yet as the head of sales isn't around that day, hopefully it's black.

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Dec 28 2011, 08:41 AM

these numbers are combined? they look quite ok. u can take vw numbers as a bench mark, but some will say it is not fair. but i feel it is how a company makes the engine. merc e class coming soon with hybrid is about 4.9 or so L/km. for those who ask lower or higher better, this one lower better.

nissan on sylphy uses km/L another way of calculating, so with this avante shoulkd get about 13 to 15km / L i assume. in fact the more the better.

Fluidic, 1.6 high spec confirmed no auto cruise ?

So quick to defend when clearly you're the raw one. Nonetheless, if you must quote sen/km to appease your chinaman customers instead of educating them kindly state sen/km @ current fuel price. In that way, someone reading this thread a year or so down the road will know how to extrapolate the data.

Sen/km is quite meaningless when quoted in a forum (as opposed to banter with your customers) as the posting will remain for quite some time while fuel prices may fluctuate as what cybermaster said.

Yeah, forumers are a sophisticated lot these days lol... Better learn to proof read your thoughts before hitting that "Add Reply" button, otherwise you'd have to do a lot of firefighting to backup your words. And judging from the tone of your retorts, you don't seem to like being challenged/rebuked. Not a good stance for someone trying to cari makan here...

I guess this 6.7/100km(1.6 Auto) was quote by Hunydai manufacturer and no surprise is only the same wat Kia quote their Forte as 6.6 litre/100km(1.6 Auto). but when come to real life everything should expect slightly higher. Personal thought i just wish Elantra can have lower FC as compare to Forte so that i have to kick out my consideration on forte

Gregy, from the post you have written in the past I can sense that you are one spoilt child. Maybe your father is rich and you feel that you should care for nobody but please bear in mind this nobody work very hard for his life. Yes maybe you are from a rich family and can get food with mouth open and get money with hand open…so what? This nobody owes you nothing. So just keep your bossy act at home for your family member and maid.

Isnt re-education the key word in your Korean car world? Why follow a customer's whims when its clearly the wrong way? Re-education doesnt happen overnight the same way you cant expect people to suddenly jump over to Korean makes despite its better looks and specs. This will take time. But if you give up after the first few tries then whats the point? Those customers of yours are used to the WRONG system of measuring FC as many ppl are. The same with the full tank issue. But slowly you can educate them and they in turn will educate others and within a few years you'll get many ppl on the same page. But going back on your efforts and stating sen/KM will only take that re-education process back another 5 years. Stop doing it.

Besides, are those FC rates for combined driving or 100% highway drives? It looks like 100% highway drives. If its for combined i would find that very hard to believe. Just for comparison, the 2003 model Vios (which is known for its good FC) only gets 6.5L/100km for 100% highway drives.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 28 2011, 10:38 AM

Why we talk about education? Bro fluid has been providing good info and he's just selling cars here. If someone dont want buy from him because he quote sen/km instead of km/L, why not go to his showroom and if he tell u sen/km then u shoot him gaogao on the spot in front of other people..

Totally agreed. No guilty party here. Bro fluid just shared the experience he had as salesman. Sen/km just another tone when someone doesn't understand l/km. Please be fared with him.

Like this car but wait too long come into malaysia is no longer latest model... what a waste

Bro fluidic... we are not suppose to know the price until date close to the launching day rite, meaning we only knw the true price on next year feb???

Remaining 3 days for this year. Don think Hyundai will announce within these days~~big let down for me!

I do agree with bro Fluidic also, Malaysian consumers are not the brightest lot when it comes to understanding FC, so easier to tell them 'cents per km' even though fuel price may change... imagine in the US/ Australia fuel prices change daily and based on location... so the only accepted global mileage term is either km/L or L/100km. Note that your car's trip computer states the same.
Also remember FC depends on your right foot, and city/ hwy driving.

No point discussing all this if SD comes up Naza Kia's pricing strategy (pricing close to Jap pricing). Case and point - the new Optima at RM144k!

What I will do is to get both, an elantra and a civic next yr. (No joke)
Maybe a hybrid civic coz my wife want a hybrid car & since it got no tax.

For now that's the plan. Unless there are new car (at least C segment car) that will be launch in 1Q 2012 wt more features & affordable price.

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Added on December 28, 2011, 12:41 pmI wonder why most of time, Malaysian will talk about high price of car in Msia & blame the govt for it.

If U had been in a country that sell a car wt cheap price; then U will know that there are no 2nd hand value for those car. In Brunei for example, nobody want to buy yr 2nd hand car as new car is cheap. U will get option either to keep yr car in yr garage or sell it wt very low price & sometime scrap it. In Japan also almost same case.
At the end, U will lose same amount of money when U stay in Msia.

In Msia, after few yrs U can still sell yr car as 2nd hand car which pricier than new car than some country. Not that bad rite.
Somemore, can take bank loan up to 9yrs wt low interest. not that bad too.
Since in those countries that had cheap car but only take loan usually up to 5yrs wt high interest.

Whether U live in a country that had high price car or low, keep in mind that buying a car not an investment.
It's an expense.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Dec 28 2011, 12:42 PM

Dont understand why u guys can argue on a car that is not gonna sell well in msia. It looks fluidic but step inside and its all cheapo material plus the usual unrefined korean drivetrain.

After arguing so long, bet hardly any of u will buy this junk

And this elantra looks like a dugong too. If vios is baby dugong, this is papa dugong.. Kia optima design still acceptable but drivetrain is crap and interior looks so cheapskate for that money

This post has been edited by kevin23: Dec 28 2011, 01:09 PM

Another bullshit comment . Government force the consumer to buy the new car with higher price actually is good for 2nd value, WTF comment ??? Why you don't think monthly installment for 5 year loan in other country same as 9 loan installment in Malaysia when after impose the tax ?

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Added on December 28, 2011, 2:35 pmYes, i agree. Actually i have change my mind to replace my 13 years car with Elantra. I prefer to save my money and looking for the next brand .Because :
1. The price not compatible at all.
2. No one know the car quality after assembly by local plan
3. The spare part lead time since Elantra still new in Malaysia. I don't want take the risk to leave the car at workshop just waiting for spare park.
4. The Sime Darby service is like a shit.
5. The Hyundai/Sime Darby assume the people who are waiting for Elantra 2011 like a dummy.

This post has been edited by ngweichoong: Dec 28 2011, 02:35 PM