I believe only 1 is cigarette lighter port, others are single function power outlet. 2 isn't alot, Santa Fe has at least 3-4 .

Anyway, I may be reposting rumors but :

- Launching should be in November.
- In Korea it comes in either 1.6 or 1.8L, 6 speed AT with Shiftronic so naturally we'll be getting these engines as well, but there's also rumor spreading within that we might get 2.0 version as well, can't promise or confirm with you all on that.
- First batch is CBU and will be CKD onward. Parts are imported, difference is assembly location, orders and delivery will definitely be faster than CBUs like Sonata, Tucson if they're CKD.

HSDM will of course price it 'competitively' with our Japanese competitors. So you will either see a huge gap in pricing, or a car with smaller gap pricing, but choke full of accessory not found on Japanese's marques. The latter is more likely, as with the trend starting from Tucson and Sonata(Smaller price gap, more accessories).

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Aug 25 2011, 12:52 PM

Belakong

Maybe it's due to the high demands for Sonata/Tucson/Starex that they have to push back Elantra's shipment a few months. HSDM is barely keeping up with the current waiting list(so is my showroom ), hope they can get everything smooth flowing soon!

You sure we will get the Civic the moment it's launched? History backs the fact that in Malaysia all car's are at least 1 years old in certain market before official dealer brings them in.

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Aug 25 2011, 07:46 PM

Depends on how you see it, did you know that Hyundai car sales in 2010 grow by nearly 40%? Tucson + Sonata contribute the most and it happens at mostly latter half of the year. If HSDM shipping capacity was adjusted to say 1000 Hyundais per month, a sudden leap of 400 cars per month can cause problem.

This year alone, we have Santa Fe facelift, Starex Royale facelift, i10 facelift as well. The reason you don't see them a lot on the road is because Hyundai's market share in Malaysia is small to start with. It used to be that I see Hyundai car once every 2-3 days, now I see at least 3-4 times per day just looking out at the road of my dealer, imagine that!

The unfortunate tragedy of March 11 has also pushed some buyer from the Japanese's marques into Koreans. With limited choice from other Korean brands, Hyundai was the way to go, further creating backlogs.

Due to all these factors, Tucson waiting period has been increased, with Sonata close to being overwhelmed as well. One trim of Starex Royale waiting period has increased slightly due to the sudden increase in purchase(Malay customers surged as they buy cars for Hari Raya balik kampung), even CKD models like i10 and Santa Fe has sporadic delays of 1 week or so. We dealers are actually frustrated by Elantra's launch delay because our current Elantra has long since sold out, all our C-Segment customers going to the Forte

The delivery overtime theory is however, my speculation on why Elantra is being delayed, as I do not work for Sime Darby, we're only getting spotty news and rumors from them. If I ever get a confirmed news that's not restricted to employee only, I'll post it up.

You're free to do so, but are you ready to :

- Endure delays if Elantra sales ever 'boom' like Tucson did? Tucson waiting period is now at least 3-4 months(vs usual 2-3). If you order in January, you might still get 2010's shipment, if not, you might end up waiting till June for your car, that's half a year gone on your 'save 1 year' resales value.
- Shake off the CKD mindset? HSDM might pass the aseembly of Elantra to Inokom, Even though the parts are all imported and assembly are all the same, only in different places, many people still thinks CKD is lower quality.
- Uncertain interest rate? Interest rate is rumored to go up next month, a lot of my customer is going to miss out on very low 2.5-2.6% interest rate of August just because they can't make up their mind and make their purchases really late in August.

Average CBU delivery from Korea is 2-3 months, so by epo's theory, if he orders the Elantra on January, he will get the 2012 production car by Feb-March. That doesn't always work unfortunately, because delivery schedule can hasten or slow down. As dealers we do not know what order Sime Darby placed to Hyundai in Korea. There might be possibility of say, the Hyundai Tucson long wait period suddenly reduced back to normalcy.

Who knows, there's already a batch of Elantra hiding in a Sime Darby depot I do not know of, just that Sime Darby is timing it's launch for various reason that I do not know.

So seriously guys, making a decision to buy what car is actually very easy, a lot of headache is self inflicted Buy the car you like, instead of ending up in a car you don't like driving around just because you want petty greeds like measly personal discount offered by SA or resale value.

Note : Customer is willing to wait for the Tucson despite the waiting period

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Aug 25 2011, 08:55 PM

We dealers also bth la xD We get a lot of cold call asking about Elantra and we don't have proper B, C-segment to sell at all.

As I said, rumors, I can't assure you on that. Since we're expecting Elantra to be quite good selling, CKD is the logical step to keep deliveries smooth.

Depends on HSDM's business strategy, if they brought in one batch of CBU, you might end up lucky getting these 'ready stock', after loan approval and registration, can get car.

But be warned, a lot of SA are taking personal bookings for the car now.

You mean the Sonata facelift? We are not expecting HSDM to bring the facelift in next year or two though

For the EPS vs hydraulic steering, it's really a matter of preference and setup.

I've so far driven both EPS and hydraulics steering from Hyundai's offering, both steering weight is about the same, just that the EPS is lighter and has weaker feedback but they're still enough there for you to react to road conditions.

We are far behind, but we are catching up for sure.

It is quite true that the sales for Korean vehicles were really bad few years back, but Rome ain't built in a day

Updated Rumor :

- No ready stock for Elantra, if it launch in November, join the waiting list
- No clear answer on why HSDM is launching Elantra this late, but it's business strategy so I heard
- If you order the car in november/december 2011, you're very likely(not absolutely) to get 2012's car.

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Aug 26 2011, 07:45 PM

Sorry, time paradox Edited

Best appreciated in metal itself, and well, I saw the Veloster at HQ

No updates on Elantra atm

LHD, since Australia is getting a RHD conversion, it's most likely to be RHD(with door swapped side) as well.

The Veloster is much longer and 'square'er than it looks in videos/pictures. The front aren't as round as it seems.

Elantra should be launching before Veloster. 2011 Q4 is definitely Elantra and not Veloster.

Maybe it's hidden somewhere in the car depot already Dealer's employee aren't allowed to walk into main depot compound, only the front gate

HQ has more than 2 cars not seen on the road , and Hyundai management drives Azera whole office car park full of them.

*wants to work directly for Sime Darby*

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Aug 31 2011, 09:29 AM

Not only those 2

Hello, some updated news rumors.

Sources with unconfirmed reports saying that the delay of Elantra is caused by dispute between HSDM/Inokom/Hyundai Korea over CKD/CBU issues. We are still optimistic that this can be solved very soon.

As with the dispute still brewing, I can't tell you whether it'll be CBU or CKD. Dealers, HSDM, Hyundai Korea all have different expectation.

Indicative pricing? As with all Hyundai, it's only logical to predict the pricing to be lower than our Japanese competitor, you should either see a huge price gap, or a smaller gap with much better accessory packed into the car.

Sonata vs Camry vs Accord should give a good hint


Depends, currently Korea CBU is still relatively cheaper, Sonata, Tucson are both CBU vehicles and are still priced cheaper than our main competitors and yet packed with more accessories.

Have to sleep now, tomorrow showroom duties

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Sep 21 2011, 12:12 AM

Hope You Understand Nothing's Drivable and Inexpensive, oh the irony

If accessories is on par with say, Honda or Toyota of same spec but huge price gap, does that fit into your definition of 'decent'?

So you rather have the price gap narrowed for more accessories, like Tucson/Sonata?

Humans are sure hard to please either way


*curious kitty*

I would like to see the banner too o.O!

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Sep 22 2011, 12:35 AM

CKD should make deliveries faster as the entire process of importing a full built up car has been skipped(Custom, Inspection, etc). It'll bring the cost down as well.

If Elantra launching 2012, goodbye to my CNY laptop dream T_T

But at the end of the day, the biggest loser in buying cars are the one that time their car deliveries to avoid these so called 'year end car'. What you prevent from losing money in car depreciation, you might lose in interest rate rising, missing promotion, or your current car resale value dropping. No matter how you look at it, you are never in control of depreciation on your car.

I still have no news yet, but anyway I will be having a training at HQ next week, see if I can get more info, till then I'll squeeze my manager for info, been very busy to chit chat at the dealer lately. =|

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Sep 30 2011, 01:07 PM

Have to disappoint you all, my training did not say anything about the Elantra >_<

This V
Oh shi- a spy D: Yea it's standardization training. We SA are going to freak out all our customers by smiling ears to ears and greeting people like a English gentlement .

The ruling was scrapped after 2 months of being enforced.

Can you imagine some buyer who has no consideration of other people booking one different car at every showroom of different brand, jamming up the waiting list, and only take the one that comes first?

Sure, people will say 'it's your problem not delivering car earlier that other people', but it's a problem created by the buyer himself/herself, of course there are people who thinks there is always ready stock for foreign brand, because they're being charged CBU price for Thailand's CKD

You'll be surprised how much difference additional 1/2 gear cogs make, Elantra will most likely get 6 speed gearbox across all range.

One of my customer wanted to test the Tucson 2.4 thinking that 2.0 underpowered, but I let him test drive the 2.0, after that straight away sign order.

CVT is not the 'holy grail' of gearbox technology. Sure you get infinite ratios, but at what reliability cost? There's reason why Honda stopped using the CVT gearbox just after one generation of City.

Last I heard, the dispute is close to being resolved, I am hoping that the Elantra is CKD model, it's not going to have major impact as far as I know all Hyundai's CKD models use fully imported parts. Just no AP and faster delivery

This post has been edited by FluidicSculpture: Oct 29 2011, 07:01 AM

I am not going to comment on teana vs sonata. If you owned either you will hear soemthing in favor of the one you own. You are the first that I known to say teana out accelerate sonata because so far none of my sastified customer said otherwise. I will still respect your opinion however; this brings back memory of a customer that say her Vios is better than the Sonata. It is your hard earned money after all, I won't pour cold water onto you, I would be pissed too after spending money on something and people keep pouring wster over me.

As for the City, my question still remains. Why Honda cease to use CVT in their next generation of City? There is reason, my colleagues has been around car and used car business for more than a decade, even our regular service foreman saying the same things regarding the CVT gearbox. My sources is from foremans who regularly service these cars and used car bosses. Unless they are lying big time, I trust them more than anyone else.

Your opinion about reliability is singing an old tune to new generation of cars. If our car are not as reliability as you think, do your think Sime Darby wants to bleed in the red through numerous warranty claim? Warranty cost money and it's called business, nobody will ever give more warranty just because they know their car is going to enter workshop very often, warranty is given as an assurance to the public that our product is good for the warranty duration, if not we imburse you for free.

Second hand car value is also an old tune now, you are using a car that is around for 5 years and has been under a messy management for too long. Everything under Sime Darby now is streamlined and standarized. If you say the x20 has bad resales value, can I know how did a pre-owned Sonata fetch 128k the other day? The only reason you see resales value of japan marque as high because the car price is expensive to start with. Half of sonata.is 72k compared to accord 75-78k ish. If Sonata ever to match these car in resales value I would be totally happy because that in irony will become a statement that our car depreciate slower than other brand of more expensive price, people will be flocking to Hyundai showroom that time