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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadbrand Thread V5, Still, NO cap 4 all unifi packages 4 now

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post Jul 2 2010, 02:22 PM

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Added on July 2, 2010, 2:24 pm
QUOTE(kuekss @ Jul 2 2010, 03:17 AM)
hi all..i just wan to ask..unifi can use fax??
can anyone tell me??
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jul 2 2010, 11:44 AM)
Any TM staff can confirm did FAX works in Unifi
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Doesn't seem like anyone know the answer though... The field installer told me it worked with fax when they came to install for me, but I dun own any fax machine, best to call TM call center to confirm.


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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jul 2 2010, 01:32 PM)
Hmm... Wangsa Maju in Q3 covers until which part??? Does it covers PV12, Danau Kota area??? Streamyx port full full... hoping to get unifi as alternatives.
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Jul 2 2010, 10:47 AM)
Hello there, smile.gif stability as in the fluctuations of speed and the latency to international servers and stuff. Coz that is the only reason I will be taking UniFi over the Cooluni pack. I was stable and low latency. And I have a WR54GL here. Can be used as wireless access point and divide the bandiwidth through there right? Its flashed to DD-WRT btw.

I read a few pages back everybody say the speed sometimes fast sometimes slow eh. haha. Any users reporting from RS premium account?
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@orenzai

Sup yo nod.gif

Not sure why they say that.

For torrent the result can fluctuate based on seed. I confirmed that for well seeded torrents at least, you can reach 1 to 1.1 Mb/s for sure (assuming you don't use dir-615 router, and that your router is good for torrent. The one i used was ESR-9850)

Direct download like megaupload premium using Jdownloader with 4 connections, or a normal download link using Internet Download Manager with 4 or more connections, i can confirm you get 1 to 1.1 Mb/s max and it's pretty constant.


The only time my Unifi was unstable was a few weeks back when the Unifi center had some issue so they were doing some corrective maintenance. But that problem only lasted a few days before everything went back to normal. Never had that problem after that one time.

Regarding your router i am not too sure bro. DD-WRT i read, the qos for bandwidth allocation isn't so great. Tomato teddy bear i hear does a much better job for QOS bandwidth allocation if you want to go down the router third party firmware route. I would think that the Asus RT-N16 would be your best bet. It cost around RM300 ish if i recall right, if you order from Hongkong.

I never used DD-WRT or Tomato before, but i did read a lot about them before i made my new router purchase cool.gif


Riv also pointed out to me that speedtest.net and the tmnut speedometer aren't so reliable to test your speed. That is why i use direct download and torrent to assess it nod.gif







@pbc06

Are you using RS/MU free user download??? If that is the case yes the speed is crappy. There is a reason why there is a premium package for RS/Mu, although you rarely feel any speed limitations on 2-4mb, but as you go to a higher speed, you will see that your speed doesn't necessarily go higher unless your on a premium account.

Free users should only can expect like 300 Kb/s or less tops. Free packages for those services have a speed cap from what i have seen. When using Mu PREMIUM i can confirm you will get the full speed. RS i don't know since i don't own a premium account for it. So the moral of the story, if you don't want to pay for premium account, just go with 5mb Unifi which should sufficiently cover the speed cap for free user rs/mu download speeds. 10mb and 20mb you won't see any benefit for free user rs/mu unless you get premium accounts.


Added on July 2, 2010, 3:09 pm
QUOTE(MX510 @ Jul 2 2010, 01:06 PM)
Will confirmed about the capping from TM Event today
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post Jul 2 2010, 04:14 PM

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[quote=orenzai,Jul 2 2010, 01:19 AM]Yeah thats why its kinda enough for us to use. Just that the reliability of unifi seems to be not stable. So should I get that or just use the cool uni pack and get a netbook with it. The reseller told me that Cooluni cannot switch over to unifi.
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pretty hard decision cos uni pack u can get lower rates for the 4MB connection. I not sure about the stability of of both but i can tell u that unifi is a new wiring design for high speed internet so its for sure u wont suffer disconnections from stuff like rain or poor wiring quality and packet loss and those sort. problem will be at the IP core level.

maybe some1 out there can tell us the speed they get to international websites using unifi and its performance and quality vs streamyx 4 mb package?


Added on July 2, 2010, 4:47 pm[quote=Moogle Stiltzkin,Jul 2 2010, 03:05 AM]What stability issue are you talking about?

First thing you should do is follow Riv's guide to use your own router. With the crappy dir-615 out of the way, then you can do some actual testing. So we can b**** about stability, but at the end of the day we all know that default router is unreliable to do any proper assessment of unifi.

I can get 1.1 Mb/s dl and ul max.

When torrenting, this is not a surety because it really depends on seeds.

I tested speeds on what.cd private torrent tracker and i can get the full speed. I even managed to get max speed on demonoid which is kinda like a private tracker but not quite. Basically for torrent downloads, if it's well seeded, yes you will max out, if not, then no.

Right now i'm downloading a torrent and it fluctuates between 300 kb/s to 1 Mb/s but this is nothing to do with Unifi stability :/ (especially since i am not using their shitty router, mines an ESR-9850)

Using Jdownloader to download megaupload sources using a premium account, i can max out using 4 connections.
Mirc download via xdcc bots does not seem to be throttled. When downloading from a xdcc bot on 4mb streamyx i only got like 10-30 kb/s but on unifi i get the full 200-400 kb/s from the same bot. If you are wondering why that isn't near the 10mbps broadband speed, that is because mirc xdcc bots usually have lower upload caps then if you downloaded from torrent or direct download most of the time. Anyway my example is just to show there is no throttling active for mirc as of yet.
Currently i am satisfied with the dl/ul speed i am getting right now, although 10mb broadband should be hard capped @ 1.2 Mb/s, but the max i've seen is 1.1 Mb/s. They really should hard cap at the promised speed, and not just slightly below it like they always do :/ Maybe Riv can explain why it is like this.
As for IPTV, it streams fine with no stutter when using my Homeplug as i don't want long dangling rj45 ethernet cables stretching around the house.

Does fax work? Not that i have seen.
Iphone need a physical wire from the modem directly to it. So if you want to put the iphone in the living room, and the router in another room, you will have a small ugly wire dangling on the floor, can't be helped. Iphone wiring is the only part i didn't particularly like.
my 10 mb is being shared between 5 devices and there seems to be enough bandiwidth going around for computer users. I'm a downloader and the other users are mostly surfers. I segregated the bandwidth allocation to 8mb and 2mb. 2mb is used by all other devices, and mine uses 8 mb minimum reserved bandwidth.

I just give my setup as an example. If you want a bigger pie for bandwidth allocation, then you'd have to go for 20mb so more bandwidth to go around.
For web hosting, all unifi packages are fine since the uploads are same speed as the downloads. You can visit my website to see how it is like. I have some downloads available for the time being for testing web hosting speed, however i already setup a QOS to limit the upload for it doh.gif
http://mognet.no-ip.info
The only thing that could ruin unifi right now is cap if it ever gets enforced. Right now it hasn't yet :/

My usage for July has reached 152gb but no sign of any throttling so far doh.gif
@blacktrix

If you already followed Riv's guide and it still does not work, i suggest you pm Riv for help. I'm using my own router and it works. My router doesn't even have any vlan sort of capability (not that i know anyway).
@calvin92

24/7 torrenting isn't really the issue, although i wouldn't recommend using the default dir-615 for torrents as it wouldn't last for 24/7 torrent sessions  laugh.gif  What matters is the monthly bandwidth for dl/ul. Right now it isn't capped, but when it is, then people will start to cry. Especially when your sharing that pie of bandwidth with other users on your network.

The reason they leave on torrent 24/7 is usually because they are seeding. If your a member of a private torrent tracker, keeping your dl/ul ratio to an acceptable level by seeding is very important. Not to say there aren't people who literally download 24/7, but seeding is usually the reason and very important need for 24/7 torrenting.
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Yup definitely understand. I can tell u that most people will get bored of downloading after a time. When i went to UK where broadband is super cheap+ fast for like 20MB connection unlimited i do download like mad maybe 2-3 months then u sorta don't do that so much cos i guess when u know its always available u tend not to over excited. People will eventually download wat they need. I guess it be smart if TM give unlimited cos that is likely to happen to most people.


Added on July 2, 2010, 4:53 pmBy the way, normally how long it takes after registration before the Unifi guys come to install? Sorry if i didn't read back...it's a long thread.
BTW, Calvin92, don't bother to reply if ur going to be 'clever' again.
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arghh.. my installation moved to 8th July, no underground guys to do the cabling till that date .. ayoo.. owell, excited but can still wait till the date ..
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Yes, i'm a free user. and i'm only getting avg 30Kb/s!
As mentioned before, my 1Mb streamyx line was able to give me 105Kb/s.

I still can't figure out why. Everything else is fine.


@pbc06

Are you using RS/MU free user download??? If that is the case yes the speed is crappy. There is a reason why there is a premium package for RS/Mu, although you rarely feel any speed limitations on 2-4mb, but as you go to a higher speed, you will see that your speed doesn't necessarily go higher unless your on a premium account.

Free users should only can expect like 300 Kb/s or less tops. Free packages for those services have a speed cap from what i have seen. When using Mu PREMIUM i can confirm you will get the full speed. RS i don't know since i don't own a premium account for it. So the moral of the story, if you don't want to pay for premium account, just go with 5mb Unifi which should sufficiently cover the speed cap for free user rs/mu download speeds. 10mb and 20mb you won't see any benefit for free user rs/mu unless you get premium accounts.


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QUOTE(IwanAGP @ Jul 2 2010, 01:32 PM)
Hmm... Wangsa Maju in Q3 covers until which part??? Does it covers PV12, Danau Kota area??? Streamyx port full full... hoping to get unifi as alternatives.
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hey bro, I'm from PV12 too smile.gif
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post Jul 2 2010, 06:22 PM

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My office just installed with Unifi 3 days ago and starting from that day, all of our staff using YM will keep on disconnected, any idea why? I search around but didnt found any possible solutions.
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jul 2 2010, 02:45 PM)
@orenzai

Sup yo  nod.gif

Not sure why they say that.

For torrent the result can fluctuate based on seed. I confirmed that for well seeded torrents at least, you can reach 1 to 1.1 Mb/s for sure (assuming you don't use dir-615 router, and that your router is good for torrent. The one i used was ESR-9850)

Direct download like megaupload premium using Jdownloader with 4 connections, or a normal download link using Internet Download Manager with 4 or more connections, i can confirm you get 1 to 1.1 Mb/s max and it's pretty constant.
The only time my Unifi was unstable was a few weeks back when the Unifi center had some issue so they were doing some corrective maintenance. But that problem only lasted a few days before everything went back to normal. Never had that problem after that one time.

Regarding your router i am not too sure bro. DD-WRT i read, the qos for bandwidth allocation isn't so great. Tomato teddy bear i hear does a much better job for QOS bandwidth allocation if you want to go down the router third party firmware route. I would think that the Asus RT-N16 would be your best bet. It cost around RM300 ish if i recall right, if you order from Hongkong.

I never used DD-WRT or Tomato before, but i did read a lot about them before i made my new router purchase  cool.gif
Riv also pointed out to me that speedtest.net and the tmnut speedometer aren't so reliable to test your speed. That is why i use direct download and torrent to assess it  nod.gif
@pbc06

Are you using RS/MU free user download??? If that is the case yes the speed is crappy. There is a reason why there is a premium package for RS/Mu, although you rarely feel any speed limitations on 2-4mb, but as you go to a higher speed, you will see that your speed doesn't necessarily go higher unless your on a premium account.

Free users should only can expect like 300 Kb/s or less tops. Free packages for those services have a speed cap from what i have seen. When using Mu PREMIUM i can confirm you will get the full speed. RS i don't know since i don't own a premium account for it. So the moral of the story, if you don't want to pay for premium account, just go with 5mb Unifi which should sufficiently cover the speed cap for free user rs/mu download speeds. 10mb and 20mb you won't see any benefit for free user rs/mu unless you get premium accounts.


Added on July 2, 2010, 3:09 pm

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Thanks for the feedback. I hope they will improve on the stability. Now I just have to cancel off my Cooluni registration that I registered 5 days ago. biggrin.gif Its still on waiting list though smile.gif
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Jul 2 2010, 07:06 PM)
Thanks for the feedback. I hope they will improve on the stability. Now I just have to cancel off my Cooluni registration that I registered 5 days ago. biggrin.gif Its still on waiting list though smile.gif
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You are not getting your 4mb line. Trust me. I applied and waited for 2 months before they finally tell me no more port for 4mb.
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QUOTE(sailou @ Jul 2 2010, 07:26 PM)
You are not getting your 4mb line. Trust me. I applied and waited for 2 months before they finally tell me no more port for 4mb.
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thats enough to make me straight away switch to unifi O.o
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Some here say #unifi got problem with iPhone via wifi... #bugmy TM admitted the problem..    about 1 hour ago  via UberTwitter 

But as usual.. they don't know the cause. It's the 20/40Mhz wifi bandwidth setting if I'm not mistaken :3 Had this issue on my dd-wrt flashed dir-615.. anybody here have it on stock tm dir-615 firmware?
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Too lazy to go through 73 pages for answer.

i) Can someone tell me whether I can achieve 10MB up & down at the same time? Or that bandwidth is shared among up & down?

For the Fax, I'm one of the fax user & will try out once I get unifi.
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According to D-Link the DIR-615 G1 GPL source code is scheduled to be released in August.
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QUOTE(gs20 @ Jul 2 2010, 08:59 PM)
Too lazy to go through 73 pages for answer.

i) Can someone tell me whether I can achieve 10MB up & down at the same time? Or that bandwidth is shared among up & down?

For the Fax, I'm one of the fax user & will try out once I get unifi.
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Everything i already answered on this page lulz doh.gif

yes 10mb download and upload i got 1.1 Mb/s max. 10mbps broadband should theoretically be 1.2 Mb/s so there is some headroom issue, not sure why. Maybe tmnut is taking advantage of that minimum 80% of marketed speed so they save on bandwidth usage to increase their profit margin, or whether there is a valid reason for it :/

Fax does not work. I have a fax machine, i tried and it didn't work. Others are saying the same thing so i am inclined to believe them.



I think you misunderstood something. Download speed is not bandwidth allocation for starters. Yes download and upload are both 10 Mb/s each. Monthly bandwidth is download and upload bandwidth added together. Whether local will be added to international bandwidth usage for total bandwidth usage remains to be seen.

Lastly bandwidth cap means, after exceeding certain set monthly and daily bandwidth cap, your download and most likely upload speed as well will both be reduced. Not enforced yet :/ however their having some sort of discussion at Bangsar regarding caps :/

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Meaning to say, we can upload at 1MB/s & download at 1MB/s at the same time?
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Yes can. I've seen myself getting both peaks SIMULTANEOUSLY!! at one point or another.

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to, unless the router has crappy max throughput.

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haha wow. Better hope it will be consistent even at night when there are lots of users
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Hey guys, i just got a call from Unifi Centre 2nd Level Technician cause i filed a report on my ipTV problem, so i asked them about the ipTV Set Top Box Remote Control Exchange Program also. He told me that they are in fact doing that because the label on one of the button on the remote control has been registered by another company and they are not allowed to use it. There is no problem with the current Remote Control. The Button label in question is - IMode but Unifi Customer Service is not aware of such program when i call in 1-300-88-1221 to ask the same question. This is just for your information.
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TM BRINGS UNIFI TO 18 MORE AREAS NATIONWIDE
Service coverage ramp-up to cater for pent-up demand in more areas

The rollout of Telekom Malaysia’s ™ High Speed Broadband (HSBB) service, UniFi, continues on track with service availability now expanded to an additional 18 areas nationwide, bringing the total up to 22 from the initial 4 areas launched in March 2010.
The new areas include industrial sites such as Kulim Hi-Tech Park in Kedah, Bayan Baru in Penang, Senai and Permas in Johor, Wangsa Maju, Sungai Buloh, Puchong and Cyberjaya in Selangor, as well as Putrajaya and Damansara in the Federal Territory. For a full list of areas, visit www.tm.com.my.

“In conjunction with UniFi’s service expansion to more areas, TM will be embarking on a more aggressive go-to-market campaign to woo subscribers” said Dato' Zamzamzairani Mohd Isa, Group Chief Executive Officer, TM. “We know that more and more Malaysians are now always online, hungry for bandwidth and ready to embrace a digital lifestyle -- UniFi is for them as it delivers a faster, richer and more reliable online experience that opens up a whole new world of rich digital content, applications and services.”

With the 18 new areas, TM’s UniFi service rollout has now reached more than 375,000 premises passed. UniFi is expected to reach 750,000 premises passed by the end of 2010, and 1.3 million premises passed by the end of 2012.

Fees

From July onwards, existing UniFi subscribers, which now number close to 5,000 for both residential and business customers, will begin paying their monthly subscription fees. Previously, UniFi ‘early birds’ were incentivised with no subscription fees until July 2010.

UniFi is currently being offered via three residential and three business packages. The residential triple-play packages are VIP5 at RM149 a month, VIP10 at RM199 a month and VIP20 at RM249 a month. Each package comes with phone, high speed Internet and free basic HyppTV subscription. Businesses packages are BIZ5 at RM199 a month, BIZ10 at RM599 a month and BIZ20 at RM899 a month. Each package comes with a call plan, data and a host of complimentary value-added services.

TM will be continuing its incentivisation policy for new UniFi subscribers, who will enjoy no charges for installation, equipment or activation until further notice. Furthermore, no deposit is required. The duration of the standard service subscription contract for UniFi remains at 24-months.

Progress

TM’s total expenditure related to the national HSBB project as of 30 April 2010 reached RM2.3 billion – covering last mile access, IP core deployment and capacity expansion for international links.

More than 300 installation teams are involved in the UniFi service rollout to support the increasing installation orders.

TM has also invested heavily in human capital development, with about 16,500 employees and 2,500 contractors having undergone HSBB-related training.

Signed in September 2008, the RM11.3 billion national HSBB project is a Public-Private-Partnership agreement between TM and the Government of Malaysia to develop next generation high speed broadband infrastructure and services for the nation. By the end of 2012 - in accordance with the completion of the first phase of the rollout as agreed with the Government – the project will have covered approximately 1.3 million premises passed nationwide. These areas, identified as Zone 1, include the Inner Klang Valley, Iskandar Malaysia (Nusajaya), and key industrial sites around the nation.

TM is investing RM8.9 billion into the project while the Government is contributing RM2.4 billion on an incurred claims basis based on project milestones reached by TM.




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