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post Apr 20 2010, 09:30 AM, updated 16y ago

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~The Home Of Liverpool Supporters~


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Liverpool Football Club



Founded: 1892

Founded by: John Houlding

Nickname: The Reds

Ground : Anfield

Chairman:
Martin Broughton

Manager :
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Rafael Benítez

Assistant Manager:
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Sammy Lee

Captain:
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Steven Gerrard

Vice Captain:
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Jamie Carragher

League Champions -----> 18
1900-01 ; 1905-06 ; 1921-22 ; 1922-23 ; 1946-47 ; 1963-64 ; 1965-66
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1979-80 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83
1983-84 ; 1985-86 ; 1987-88 ; 1989-90

Division Two Winners -----> 4
1893-94 ; 1895-96 ; 1904-05 ; 1961-62

Lancashire League Winners -----> 1
1892-93

Football Association Challenge Cup Winners -----> 7
1964-65 ; 1973-74 ; 1985-86 ; 1988-89 ; 1991-92
2000-01 ; 2005-06

League Cup Winners -----> 7
1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83 ; 1983-84 ; 1994-95
2000-01 ; 2002-03

Football Association Charity Shield Winners -----> 15
1964* ; 1965* ; 1966 ; 1974 ; 1976 ; 1977* ; 1979 ; 1980 ; 1982
1986* ; 1988 ; 1989 ; 1990* ; 2001 ; 2006 ( * shared)

European Cup Winners -----> 5
1976-77 ; 1977-78 ; 1980-81 ; 1983-84 ; 2004-05

UEFA Cup Winners -----> 3
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 2000-01

European Super Cup Winners -----> 3
1977 ; 2001 ; 2005

Super Cup Winners -----> 1
1985-86

Carlsberg Trophy -----> 3
1997-98 ; 1998-99 ; 1999-2000

Reserves Division One Winners -----> 16
1956-57 ; 1968-69 ; 1969-70 ; 1970-71 ; 1972-73 ; 1973-74 ; 1974-75
1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1983-84 ; 1984-85
1989-90 ; 1999-2000

FA Youth Cup Winners -----> 3
1995-96 ; 2005-06 ; 2006-07

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The History


1959 - Shankly appointed manager

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December 1st 1959 is a date that will forever be etched in the annals of Anfield history. For it was on this day that Liverpool Football Club announced Huddersfield Town boss Bill Shankly would be their new manager in succession to Phil Taylor.


On his appointment he released 24 players and began to reshape the team.Promotion to the First Division was achieved in 1961–62, and the club won the League for the first time in 17 years in 1963–64. Another League title followed in 1965–66, after the club had won their first FA Cup the previous season. The club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1972–73 and the FA Cup again a year later; after this, Shankly retired and was replaced by his assistant Bob Paisley.Paisley was even more successful than Shankly and the club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1975–76, his second season as manager. The following season they retained the League title, won the European Cup for the first time, but lost in the FA Cup final, narrowly missing out on a treble. Liverpool retained the European Cup the next season, and the season after won the League again with 68 points—a domestic record, conceding only 16 goals in 42 league matches.During the nine seasons Paisley managed the club, Liverpool won 21 trophies, including three European Cups, a UEFA Cup, six league titles and three consecutive League Cups. The only domestic trophy to elude him was the FA Cup.

Paisley retired in 1983 and (as Shankly had done) handed the reins to his assistant, veteran coach Joe Fagan. The succession of coaches came from the Anfield Boot Room where the Liverpool staff discussed strategy and allegedly stored gin.[10] Liverpool won three trophies in Fagan's first season in charge: the League, League Cup and European Cup, becoming the first English side to win three trophies in a season.Liverpool reached the European Cup final again in 1985. The match was against Juventus at the Heysel Stadium. Before kick-off, disaster struck: Liverpool fans breached a fence which separated the two groups of supporters and charged the Juventus fans. The resulting weight of people caused a retaining wall to collapse, killing 39 fans, mostly Italians. The match was played regardless and Liverpool lost 1–0 to Juventus. English clubs were consequently banned from participating in European competition for five years; Liverpool received a ten-year ban, which was later reduced to six years. Fourteen of their fans received convictions for involuntary manslaughter.
The statue of former manager Bill Shankly, outside Anfield

Fagan resigned after the disaster and Kenny Dalglish was appointed as player-manager.During his reign, the club won another three League Championships and two FA Cups, including a League and Cup "Double" in 1985–86. Liverpool's success was overshadowed by the Hillsborough Disaster: in an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989, hundreds of Liverpool fans were crushed. 94 fans died that day; the 95th victim died in hospital from his injuries four days later, and the 96th died nearly four years later without regaining consciousness. After the Hillsborough tragedy there was a governmental review of stadium safety. Known as the Taylor Report, it paved the way for legislation which required top-division teams to have all-seater stadiums. The report ruled that the main reason for the disaster was overcrowding due to a failure of police control.Dalglish cited the Hillsborough Disaster and its repercussions as the reason for his resignation in 1991. He was replaced by former player Graeme Souness. Apart from winning the FA Cup in 1992, Souness achieved little success and was replaced by a former member of the "Boot Room", Roy Evans. Evans fared little better: a League Cup victory in 1995 was his only trophy. Gérard Houllier was appointed as co-manager in 1998–99, but was left in sole charge after Evans resigned in November 1998.

In his second season in charge Liverpool won a unique treble of the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup.In the 2001-02 season, during which Houllier underwent major heart surgery, Liverpool finished second behind Arsenal.The following seasons failed to live up to expectations and Houllier was replaced by Rafael Benítez. The club finished fifth in his first season in charge but won the UEFA Champions League by beating Milan 3–2 in a penalty shootout after the match finished 3–3.The following season Liverpool finished third with 82 points—their highest total since 1988. They won the FA Cup as they had the Champions League victory the previous season, by beating West Ham United in penalty shootout after the match finished at 3–3. In 2006–07, the club's search for investment came to an end when American businessmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks became the owners of Liverpool in a deal which valued the club and its outstanding debts at £218.9 million. That season, the club reached another Champions League final, but this time lost 2–1 to Milan
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Liverpool Squad Season 08/09
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First team players

Goalkeepers:
(25) Pepe Reina
(1) Diego Cavalieri
(30) Charles Itandje
(40) David Martin
(41) Martin Hansen
(42) Peter Gulacsi
Defenders:
(22) Emiliano Insúa
(12) Fábio Aurélio
(5) Daniel Agger
(23) Jamie Carragher
(37) Martin Škrtel
(16)Sotirios Kyrgiakos
(2) Glen Johnson
(27) Philipp Degen
(32) Stephen Darby
(34) Martin Kelly
(51) Mikel San Jose
(52) Daniel Ayala
(36) Steve Irwin
Midfielders:
(11) Albert Riera
( 4)Alberto Aquilani
(15) Yossi Benayoun
(8) Steven Gerrard
(20) Javier Mascherano
(21) Lucas Leiva
(28) Damien Plessis
(26) Jay Spearing
(31) Nabil El Zhar
(35) Ryan Flynn

Strikers:

(9) Fernando Torres
(18) Dirk Kuyt
(24) David N'Gog
(19) Ryan Babel
(39) Nathan Eccleston
(50) Daniel Pacheco
(29) Krisztian Nemeth

Players Out On Loan:
Season 09/10 Fixtures

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LFC Top Scorer for Premier League


Fernando "El Nino" Torres 10
Black Horse Dirk Kuyt 3
Yossi "The Messi" Benayoun 3
Steven "Captain Marvel" Gerrard 3
Glen "Super Wingback" Johnson 2
David N'Gog 2
Ryan Babel 2

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The Quotes


Rafa Benitez

On Jose Mourinho,Pre-match press conference before Chelsea 2nd leg
"He is a good manager,yes, but he will lose tomorrow"

On finishing fifth
"I know being in the top four of the Premier League is very important, but you will never see any club honours list recording an historic fourth place in the Premier League."

On King Luis' "ghost goal"

"Luis said to me that as he turned away, he was right on the line, and he said the ball was over the line. And after the game my secretary Sheila, who was sitting right in line in the main stand, said to me that the ball had crossed the line. She is a very honest person and that was good enough for me. It was a goal."

On Robben's play acting
"Sorry i must hurry i am to the hospital to see Robben, maybe his neck is broke, maybe if Reina had of reacted like that when gallas touched him his neck would be broke also"

On Robbie "God" Fowler
"People can talk about having a lot of money to buy players but we've just signed a player with a passion and a heart for this club that no amount of money can buy."

"I think he is going to be a big asset for us. I know he is glad to have signed as he has taught me a new English phrase about being over the moon!"


In response to rumours over his future at anfield and a possible move to Real Madrid
I am very happy here for sure, my family is very happy here too, we are settled very well. my youngest daughter speaks alot of english now, more so even than spanish, and she speaks with scouse accent so i cannot understand her (beaming smile) but she also speaks alot of spanish, or sometimes even gets mixed up and speaks alot of spanglish

In response to Fergie's claim that Liverpool only play 5 minutes football in the victory

"If we can win a game in five minutes against a top team just think how much more terrible damage there would be if we played for the other 85 minutes."


On King Luis

"He's always a player from whom you can expect something different. If you're struggling in a game you can either do two things, send your centre back up front as a centre forward or use Luis Garcia between the lines."

On Liverpool Supporters
"Before, I said that they were maybe the best supporters in England.Now maybe they are the best supporters in Europe if not the World."

Humorous reply to the media on Fowler
Q:"If Robbie scores the winner against Chelsea, will he get a new contract?"

A:" No. No he won't .......He is cup tied."


On his poor English(1st season)
I'm not here to speak English.I'm here to win trophies.

'As I have said many times, I've come here to win trophies, not to learn English'.


His typical, repetitive answers

"this is our idea"

"....we will have more control over situations, and this will give us more possiblilities...."

We could have score more.

We only think of the next game.

"he has good game intelligence"


"...for sure

"we have more options"


On Gerrard's saga
"When people talk to me about Gerrard and say he wants to win trophies, I say, 'me too'. I want to win trophies, I am not here to learn English, I am here for winning trophies."

"I am not in favour of selling him and we are building a great team around him because we want him to be the skipper who wins the most titles in Liverpool's history."

"We are preparing a special weightlifting plan for Gerrard's shoulders because we want him to lift a lot of trophies for Liverpool in the next few years.

Pre-Chelsea press conference
Journo: Are you wearing your lucky jacket?

Rafa: No, it's normal. I have confidence in my team, not my jacket!


Post-Chelsea press conference
Journo: Were you confident when you saw Chelsea's team sheet?

Rafa: I was confident when I saw my own team sheet!


On rivalry with the Mancs:
I understand it. It’s similar to the rivalry with Everton but this time it’s about two of the top sides and it’s very important we win this game.


On the linesman of the Bolton game
"It's the first time I've seen a linesman who wants to be a star"

On paying 7m for Pennant

"I do not know many right wingers in this country who are better than Pennant playing in the Premier. Who else, (Shaun) Wright-Phillips at £21 million?

On the journalists

"After this they started changing words and at the end of the day you are in jail!

On catching Chelsea in the league table

"If you start counting your chickens then, at the end, you will have problems."

On the speculation about Henry before the match against Arsenal
"I even heard rumours this week that Henry was supposedly coming to Liverpool. All I can say is that he is coming tomorrow but will be going back to London after the game. He might come here on Tuesday as well!"

On being referred to as a tactical genius
“You cannot be a genius if you do not have good players. You can have the best tactics, but if I put all you journalists on the pitch, I’m sure we will lose.“

On Carra
"He reminds me of a hunting dog, when I want something specific done in defence he is very willing to learn. As a defender he is someone you do not want to play against, to have marking you."

On getting to grips with the Language
"I talk to carra, if you can understand him you can understand anyone."

On Anfield
"This is Anfield, they say you'll never walk alone... it's true!"

On cricket
"A lot of people say it is a fantastic game because nobody knows the rules, I say to the wife i am going to play a game and i wont be back for 5 or 10 days"

When asked about the new owners watching the game against PSV.
Reporter to Rafa: The new owners must have been really impressed with this performance/

Rafa: The players were impressive. The new owners were just watching the game.


On Crouch

"I was pleased also with Peter Crouch. We have been talking to him, before and after his nose operation, to show more confidence with his heading.

"Now it seems to have worked. Lets say that if he has a few games without scoring again, maybe we should arrange to break his nose again."


On Rotation Policy

"You know me, I like to rotate the team 99 times if I can,"

"We may be in a very good rugby town here in Toulouse. But this isn't rugby - I cannot use 15 players.

"Sadly, I've been unable to persuade Fifa, Uefa, and the Premier League to allow me to use 12 players in every game."


On Champion League group qualifying
Q : Which two teams will qualify from this group?
Rafa : This question provides me with an opportunity to use an expression I learnt the other day. I don't have a crystal ball. I cannot predict the future.


On spending for transfers

"But we have a saying in Spain that you never sell the house to buy a window. You don't spend more money than you have."

"It's easier if you've got the money to go into the transfer market. Imagine if you want to buy a jacket, if you have £1000 you can buy a good jacket, but if you have £10,000 you can buy the best"


On Mourinho
""We were good friends until we started winning, then he started changing his mind.

"It's the same with the managers of the top sides. He has good relationships with managers of teams he beats."

"He fights with the managers of the top sides. He has already started it with us, yesterday!"


Mourinho claimed that Liverpool will spend the first leg attempting to get Didier Dropba booked, with the big striker set to miss the second game if he is carded by referee Markus Merk.

"Maybe Mourinho is thinking about this because he was doing exactly the same thing two years ago over Xabi Alonso,"
When Mourinho claimed that referee missed out a penalty
"I haven't seen the replay but if he says it was a penalty, sure it was a penalty."

After Mourinho claimed that Liverpool is under pressure

"He said he does not talk about other teams, maybe he forgot this time.

In the post-match press conference when Liverpool manager Benitez was informed that Jose Mourinho had responded to Steven Gerrard's criticism of Chelsea by painting a picture of an angelic, or at least "naive", team.
Rafa:"Then I am Little Red Riding Hood,"

After Grant took over
"The only difference I see between Mourinho and Grant is in their press conferences!

On the Supporters
"At Stamford Bridge, we won in the stands, that was clear. The other supporters were with their flags, but our supporters were with their hearts. We don't need to give flags. It's easy for us."

After the match against Everton
"its hard playing against the SMALLER clubs"

On Chelsea
Q:How big a loss is Ricardo Carvalho to Chelsea?

A:If he cannot play – and remember they said the same last time – they have enough quality to replace him. I don't think he's any more important than John Terry. Before, when they lost Terry, they were saying they'd lost the best centre-back in the world. Now, Carvalho is the best centre-back in the world.


On King Kenny during the Kenny week
"Kenny Dalglish would be my first choice for Liverpool's best ever player because he was a great player with a lot of qualities."

On Torres

He can do it because he's a player with pace. This ability when you have pace is an issue. I have ability but I don't have pace so I can't beat anyone! But Torres can do it"

Rafa's jokes

On his beard
"its just because during the summer I lost my razor!"

Interviewer gets the joke but doesn't find it all that funny so he goes smiling:

"so you haven't found it since??"

"no i have found but now its broken!"


On Inter Milan

Q: What do you feel are the differences between AC Milan - a side you have faced twice in the final of this competition - and Inter?

Rafa: The difference between AC Milan and Inter is in the shirt.


On his players
"My players travel more than Willy Fogg," Benitez said to quizzical looks.
"Willy Fogg?
Around the World in 80 Days?"
"Phileas Fogg, you mean."
"Oh, yes, Phileas Fogg, sorry."

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On the birth of Xabi's son:
"I was preparing a new contract for his son,"

On the owner

Interviewer :Everyone is saying George Gillet is coming to watch this game tonight, does that make any difference to you or are you just focussed on that 90 minutes tomorrow?

Rafa :I think that he is not available for tomorrow so, he is not a big difference for me in my team selection.


When asked if the American owners of Liverpool will be analysing the game, he said: "
I don't know if they have a TV."

After PSV game
Irish interviewer: " Good night Rafa?" referring to the result.

Rafa: "Goodnight" with a broad smile and pretends to finish the chat


On his reaction after the goal

Q:One thing that surprised me was that after Kuyt scored and leveled the match, you didn’t jump out of your seat. Everyone else around you jumped right off their seats to celebrate but all you did was stand up and walk near the sideline to shout some instructions. Who were you talking to?

A:Yes, I was speaking to Sami Hyypia because we were having some problems adjusting at the back and I was trying to correct those mistakes. I believe that my job is not to jump around but to try and analyze things and find solutions to any problems we might be having.
Before Champion League clash with Arsenal
"I won't settle for any less (than victory). I have always had that mentality. Even as a child, I always hated losing at anything, chess or whatever.
"It is the same now, even at home. Just ask my wife. She says I never let the children win at anything. OK, sometimes I go easy on the younger one, but not the other. She is old enough and only wins on merit.


After 0-2 victory over Fulham

"We have a problem with Sami. He has a knock in the head. He was dizzy so I asked him if he'd seen the third goal! He just looked at me (with a confused look).

On Gerrard twisted his neck during training
The other day, he wanted to play but he was only able to look to the right, so I told him he could play as a left winger! We'll see if he can turn his head round and look the other way now.

"We will talk together, with the doctor. The player will say he wants to play, but there's an easy way of finding out whether he's fit. I will come up and tap him on the left shoulder and if he turns to face me without any pain, we will know he can play."


On Riise

"Fabio will be out for three weeks, so Riise knows he has to be ready and give everything for us. The best solution would be for him to score at Stamford Bridge... in the right goal.

On the late comebacks
“If it continues like this I will have to seek a neurologist — I don’t like these late comebacks.

"The last-minute goal is bad for the heart, but a great way to win. Do I believe in fate? I believe in hard work. In Spain we say 'luck is in love with people who work hard'. We work hard, so hopefully we'll have more luck."

On defending Crouch in the game
It's about beating him in the air, so we will use Mascherano against him! laugh.gif

On Ferguson
Journalist: Some comments were made by Alex Ferguson about Robbie Keane and the price you paid for him - were they ill-timed?
Rafa: I think he was surprised about the price because he was cheap. They paid around £30m for Berbatov, Rooney or Ferdinand - or even £35m for Tevez. That is maybe where the surprise came from.


"Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

He is the only manager in the league that cannot be punished for these things.

"All managers need to know is that only Mr Ferguson can talk about the fixtures, can talk about referees and nothing happens.

“I try not to talk too much, but all I can do when I speak is to defend my own team."

He has been playing these kind of mind games for many years. Nobody has ever said anything against him or stood up to him. It seems like he has a licence to do these sort of things.



Press conference ahead of the Newcastle match

(conversation moves on to the previous midweek Champions League Semi-Finals)

Reporter: Obviously in the middle of the week there were the Champions League Semi-Finals...did you watch those games...

Rafa: Yes I was watching the games but I will not say anything...

Reporter: Was it difficult for you to watch them...

Rafa: No, it was easy. I was in front of the telly (makes gesture of wide-screen tv) it was a big telly! It was easy!!


On Hyypia


I think Liverpool are losing a legend.For years he has been so good. He has scored important goals and has been very, very good in defence. Clearly we are losing an important player.

Before the match against manu at Anfield after 4 successive defeats.

Journalist: If you win on Sunday, everything that has been said and written recently will almost be forgotten. Is that something you have to get used to in modern football?

Yes, it is clear every week that everything changes. It is something you have to understand. With the internet, people need to write things every day, they need to sell newspapers every day, but they don't have too much news, so they have to say a lot of things. It is part of the game and you have to adapt to it.


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Sammy Lee
On Alex Ferguson and Sam Allardyce attacks on Rafa
"This is not Britain's Got Talent; you don't win anything for being popular, but our manager is not arrogant. He is astute, learned, educated and his attention to detail is fantastic. We are all a bit sensitive to criticism but he knows what he is doing, why he is doing it and who he is gesticulating at!"

Steven Gerrard

We are Liverpool Football Club and the expectations are so high.

Fernando Torres

I feel flattered at being nominated for the FIFA World Player. It is a proud moment for me, and an incentive to keep on working hard.I want to win trophies with Liverpool.

19th June 2009
For me the biggest privilege in Europe is the red shirt of Liverpool.

When asked about the departure of Ronaldo to Real Madrid.

We won't win the title because Manchester United have become weaker but because we have become better. To look at it like that is a loser's mentality and that is not the way of Liverpool Football Club.


Xabi Alonso


On his transfer saga
[The fans] couldn't have done more to show me how they felt... If I went out for lunch or a coffee, there was always someone who would come over and say, 'We'd love you to stay'. I'm just glad that, in the end, nothing came of it [the transfer] because it wasn't something I ever asked for."


Sami Hyypia


"I think it will only be after I've finally left that I'll be able to sit back and realise what we've done in my ten years. It's hard to take in now. It is nice to be remembered here."

"I'd like to come back to Liverpool one day as a coach, and it was great to hear the manager would like me to return,"



Reina


from Martin O'Neill after 0-1 defeat against Reds

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"Their keeper made a great save in each half, particularly the one from Stewart Downing - it was a great, great save. And then there was the one from Gabby later on. We had two go inches past the post too.

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REDS AROUND THE WORLD: MALAYSIA
Jonno Lim, Malaysia 13 January 2009

Meet 32-year-old events manager Jonno Lim, who helps run an independent supporters’ club and gets up at the crack of dawn to catch the Reds in action with hundreds of other fans in a crowded Malaysian bar.
Like most things, my association with the Malaysian independent supporters' club started with a few beers. After meeting on the fans' forum Red and White Kop (RAWK), we decided that as there were a fair number of us Reds in the same corner of the world, the least we could do was watch a game together in a bar.

Liverpool ran home 3-0 winners over Everton at Goodison Park that day in August 2003, with Michael Owen scoring a brace and Harry Kewell getting the third goal just before the final whistle.

Having supported the club from afar for so long, it felt very special to be enjoying a Liverpool victory with a few like-minded people. I had watched the Reds with friends before, but nothing like this. Even the owner of the Boardwalk on the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur was a Reds fanatic, so it became known as the closest thing any Malaysian Red could get to the special Anfield atmosphere.

There are so many Liverpool fans in this part of the world, and they all have their own story to tell. Some adopt the Reds because of their history, others simply get drawn in by the miracle of Istanbul in 2005 or the breathtaking 'Gerrard Final' of 2006.


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The only reason I can offer for following the Reds is probably quite similar to most people's - all of my family are massive Liverpool fans. It goes way back to the seventies and beyond, so it was a no-brainer for me to be the same as them.

My earliest memory is of Michael Thomas and Ian Rush securing the FA Cup for Liverpool with great goals against Sunderland at Wembley in 1992. I can also vividly remember Neil 'Razor' Ruddock holding his head after scoring a late equaliser in the dramatic 3-3 draw with Manchester United in January 1994.

Nigel Clough scored twice that day, but the look on Ruddock's face will remain with me forever - the ball hit him on the top of his head before going in the net and he seemed in quite a lot of pain while celebrating his decisive goal at Anfield. I couldn't stop laughing.

As time went by, my Liverpool obsession grew. We experienced many joyous Saturday and Sunday nights at the Boardwalk over the years and celebrated many great Liverpool victories there. But our friend, Bala, soon told us he had to sell his bar and we were left with nowhere to watch our beloved Reds during the early hours of the morning over here in Malaysia.

And when the new owner of the Boardwalk told us they would not be opening for the 2007 Champions League final clash with AC Milan due to the fact it would be kicking off at 3.30am over here, we knew that we had to act quickly to find a new venue.

After a long and frustrating search, we finally found a small pub that would open for the match. We got in touch with our friends and fellow supporters to join us for the big game, as we knew that whenever Liverpool was involved in a big European game, it was guaranteed to be something special.


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We only really expected about 50 people to turn up at the most, but the bar ended up being crammed full with about 200 fans, all screaming at the screen, willing on the Reds. We were all disappointed that Rafa's men did not win that night in Athens, but a few of us knew right then that not only did we need a bigger venue, but also a proper fan club to bring all of these Liverpool supporters together.

We called our new supporters' club 'MyRAWK', as most of us had met through RAWK, while the ‘My’ stands for Malaysia and also gives us a sense that a certain part of LFC can belong to us individually.

Things were tough at the beginning, but settling on the M Bar as our exclusive home for watching all the games helped us a lot. The owner agreed to open up at all the unsociable hours involved in supporting a club many miles away and laid on a host of generous drinks offers.

What started as a small MyRAWK blog soon turned into a full website, and before long we had Liverpool fans joining us from all over for our match-viewing parties. From local lawyers to homesick expats, tourists to ex players (Ian Rush once even joined us - that was a very special day), the M Bar is now full of fervent fans week in, week out. I usually take up the microphone at each event and am always proud to be the official master of ceremonies.

We even have our futsal team and are also in the process of setting up a full 11-a side side. Our interim team recently won our first trophy, the Christmas Cup and one day we hope to have a proper team which takes part in the local social league.

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But due to the exchange rate and distance, not many of us have been lucky enough to get over to Anfield. I am currently saving up to make the pilgrimage one day next season with a few other fans. I'm sure that once we get up close to Liverpool's hallowed home, there will be many of us who will be close to tears, as this would be nothing short of our visiting our very own Mecca.

One of our newer members, Phil, who now lives in Liverpool, always talks about how unbelievable it is that a bunch of guys who have never seen the Reds play up close can wake up in the middle of the night to support a team who are playing nearly 7,000 miles away, only to go back to bed and rise for work less than two hours later.

But none of us at MyRAWK would have it any other way. Witnessing another Liverpool victory make all the long, sleepy days in the office after a match worth it - and believe you me, there have been a lot of those in recent years.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 19 2010, 05:23 PM)
I would say, if this always happened, this is down to poor management of players' contract then.

You let the contract run down, then for sure, it will be cut price or buyer has more bargain.

One thing, whenever Liv intend to buy or target certain players, seller party always put a higher price.

Last year nearly 40 million spent (Aqualani 20 mil + Johnson 18.5 mil) on 2 players which one didn't play more than 10 games.
I really doubt 50 or 60 million spent can bring a lot of improvement or challenge the title, if the purchase of players like last year.

Yes, money does play major role to attract good player, but you need to buy wisely and utilise fully and bring best the team out with available resources, including some youngster and fringe players that needed occassionally.

MU, Chelsea, Arsenal doesn't consist superstar throughout. There are a few name that doesn't cost much but can gel into the team effectively.
If you bring those players to Liv or other teams else, they can be as average as well.
It is more about building a team, not only limited to individual players alone issue.
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Apr 19 2010, 05:33 PM)
lets see ;
Malignant Tumuor <  Malignant tumors are ambitious. malignant tumors have two goals in life: to survive (offers nothing or benefit except feeding of host) and to conquer new territory.

Hicks & Gillett < American duo is ambitious. The duo too have goals, to search & conquer by buying desperate but famous clubs & to feed of $$$$ from profits of the club & milk the sale of the club.
true, but the Lfc current state of turmoil is also the by product of Hicks & Gillett.

the ironic fact that the term 'sink & swim together' doesn't compute in any way with Hicks & Gillett. Lets see a certain blue club was critiqued like hell when the rich owner bought them the title.
But when they weren't doing as well, he wiped out his own loans to the club (loans to buy $$$ players) to stabilise the club or at least be of some stability to continue challenge for league honours.

'sink & swim together'; some owners we have. it's Business they say. We were completely & utterly shafted by the yanks. All the potential good work of the club that began from houllier & the LFc's potential to ever challenge for trophies next 2-4 years has been drown by the greed of the american duo.

look at chelsea & MU, the two has been consistently exchanging honours between then of late because they dip & spend. Look at the millions pound players ON their bench.

Arsenal....only arsenal fan understands why they missed trophies when wenger refuse to spend on squad. exciting & elegant to watch but true gunners will know all they need is to have 2-3 good fringe players to help in KEY players where its crucial. when cesc fabregas or Van Persie is out, arsenal HAS been reduced to almost average team. (opps not accounting of NOT buying a proper keeper). sure arsenal books will be really healthy in long term. (this is a reality, even without hunours they remain profitable, not obese nor fat profit but still well in good health)

LFc, we are dire straits, or at least soon. New owners WILL mean starting again (owners taking risk in huge loans) sorry only a mad russian is willing to wipe off his own debt & roman abramovich potentially looked one-in-a-miilion type of owner.

yeah, lilredridinghood, Liverpool will take a while be among the top again and some say its not the yanks fault. I pray & hope lfc is not plague to be like newcastle or leeds  vmad.gif
Aqualani was a panic buy when we had to sell alonso because the Yanks didnt not sanction to buy an additional guard (gareth barry) to alonso unless we SELL, so sacrificing alonso & thus 'angered' alonso for the NEED to sell him & the saga to real madrid who eventually paid for alonso thus then FUND a crooked Aqualani.

vicious cycle isnt it ?

johnson, oh johnson, well we wrote off Portsmouth owing us (who owned us a lot) & that 18.5 million in truth was just something like half.

so thats it. we never buy big game, big money players unless a freak situation where 30 million for a player we shouldn't have sold & having a dire club in bather trade of what they owe us.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Apr 19 2010, 09:53 PM)
Point noted about the fact that we've got a high turnover on our ranks. I wouldn't be surprised, because when you look at how Jose Mourinho built his entire team, not only the players, but almost the entire backroom had to change. My point here is that, if you take the first eleven of Liverpool with the value BOUGHT (not value sold) versus the value of other teams, you'll probably find that we're not even on the top 5. Or maybe we graced it, but I'm pretty sure if you look at the value summed, we're way behind the giants like Man. Utd, Man. City, Chelsea, and now even the "mid table" teams that we kinda tag them.

My point here that I was trying to stress thorough? Its that despite what people like skeleton202 think that Rafa is crap, I say look at the stats, it doesn't lie and it probably may cast a light on others to show that, Rafa has already overachieved with Liverpool. When I say OVERACHIEVED, I say that we're not even fit to be where we're hovering at this moment. Remember Newcastle? Remember other teams with UCL-reliant economy to balance its sheet? We're lucky that we used not to be there before the effin' Yanks came into the fray. We were lucky to even have won the 2005 UCL. That was one miracle, in all sorts. Goatie or no goatie.

Believe me, if all our fans start to really act like how we're acting now, and if this wasn't LIVERPOOL, Rafa would have been sacked. But do you think any other managers will have want to manage this mess, with no money to 'build' this squad on? Hardly.

Considering on paper that we started (even pre-season) on a L-L-D-L-L form to a more respectable D-D-W-W-D form, I'm not going to complain. If we get to play Europa, we play Europa. If we get to play Champions League, we play Champions League. If we get to play FA, we play FA. Remember, we don't live on just dreams and expectations. Liverpool isn't a team of "must get the win or we'll rage RAWRZOMFGOMGWTFBBQRAGE".

And least not forget, even we may not be winning anything major recently, we're still a 'big club' in terms of overachieving.
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QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Apr 19 2010, 10:11 PM)
We don't really need that much amount of money.. We need the yanks to get out first.. Then we need the new owners to settle the debts and build a new stadium..

With our current players, we definitely can survive in Premiership.. The only thing we need now is another top class striker.. Forget about CL.. Get those stupid yanks out off Liverpool first..

Moores must be regret for the rest of his life because sold Liverpool to stupid yanks.. He should do his homework very carefully and choose the oil-rich guy instead...
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QUOTE(MariMo @ Apr 20 2010, 02:42 AM)
Ngog's playing smile.gif he has good forward runs and great vision for space.
His finishing might suck , but he has that striker instinct .
Come On U Reds!
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QUOTE(bomberkenny @ Apr 20 2010, 03:53 AM)
yea, ngog might have scored one beauty, but he has 2,3 chances to shoot-on-target but he just missed it.
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QUOTE(RyanHo @ Apr 20 2010, 04:55 AM)
Ngog's goal is classy. For the another 2 goals was pure luck from gerrard. Haha
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QUOTE(ADVedder @ Apr 20 2010, 05:01 AM)
our goals are from set pieces.. nice win! good for the teams confident! now bring on those Spanish!
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QUOTE(CKW008 @ Apr 20 2010, 05:26 AM)
but y i still felt 3 lucky goals for us..?...
can c frustrated 20 million man on the bench again..
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QUOTE(-nana- @ Apr 20 2010, 05:29 AM)
dont get carried away by the 3-0 scoreline as apart from a few bright moments and ngog's goal and a few dangerous crosses from the gerrard we used to know and adore.. it was a poor performance imo. poor because we were at home.

and where the heck is aquilani ? if he aint fit, he wont be on the bench, i sense lotsa frustration in his part.. having to come to a foreign country, new environment and to prove himself after a huge pricetag.. and limited to cameo appearances..i think if rafa is still in charge next season, aqua is certainly moving back to italy. i'm still hoping to see him with more games during his time here.  wink.gif
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Apr 20 2010, 05:35 AM)
Green was poor today. Not that im taking anything from our great win.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(clsiluf @ Apr 20 2010, 08:00 AM)
at this stage, point is important then performance ...
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when we played poorly but still can get 3-0 result,i think thats showed how good our squad are...pity we dont do it on a consistent basis shakehead.gif
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Last night match was all about luck...Especially the 1st and the last goal.You can't deny luck play a part in your game.That's how it was when we get second last year.Red cards, penalty, last minute goals, superb comeback.It's down to luck and of course, hardwork and determination from players.
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and as they say, u have to make ur own luck in order to get it nod.gif
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Personally, I think we created quite a number of chances.We could have score more if the lads didn't miss.Was surprised there are still people bashing N'Gog despite scoring a classy goal.They claimed N'Gog still missed chances.Well, let's not forget even Torres and Gerrard missed chances but funnily, they don't get bashed by the supporters.What logic is that? tongue.gif
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hope they'll realize,not many 20 year old striker at EPL as good as Ngog...bendtner??..nope he's older..vela??..macheda??..rodwell??..has the potential but still way behind Ngog right now..sturridge??...yeaaa right!!! biggrin.gif




how many goals he scores in EPL rite now?...more than 5 i think
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can that poll be changed to check box? there are too many positions that need strengthening.


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QUOTE(berzerk @ Apr 20 2010, 10:22 AM)
can that poll be changed to check box? there are too many positions that need strengthening.
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Not such option for us yet...at least for now...I tried too..but was in vain... sad.gif
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my vote goes to striker... we need more goals to win matches... if we let in 4 goals and scored 5, still 3 points smile.gif. so striker is a must addition if Rafa gets the £60mil kitty... Get Bent/Eto smile.gif
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QUOTE(mamet @ Apr 20 2010, 10:00 AM)
442 formation is the best !!
anyone doing new jersey bulk ??
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I got extra. M and L size available. Anyone interested? smile.gif
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QUOTE(manx @ Apr 20 2010, 11:02 AM)
my vote goes to striker... we need more goals to win matches... if we let in 4 goals and scored 5, still 3 points smile.gif. so striker is a must addition if Rafa gets the £60mil kitty... Get Bent/Eto smile.gif
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any highlight last nite???

i dun watch the match


Added on April 20, 2010, 11:16 am
QUOTE(manx @ Apr 20 2010, 11:02 AM)
my vote goes to striker... we need more goals to win matches... if we let in 4 goals and scored 5, still 3 points smile.gif. so striker is a must addition if Rafa gets the £60mil kitty... Get Bent/Eto smile.gif
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does we oso nid defender.. letting concede 4goals is tooooo bad for team like us rolleyes.gif

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can that poll be changed to check box? there are too many positions that need strengthening.
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I actually think we need to improve centerback part.

Skrtel is shaky most of the time...
Agger is injury prone.
Carra is slow.
Krygiakos is inconsistent.

The news of us trying to sign Garh Cahill is good.He has been impressing this season.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 20 2010, 11:41 AM)
I actually think we need to improve centerback part.

Skrtel is shaky most of the time...
Agger is injury prone.
Carra is slow.
Krygiakos is inconsistent.

The news of us trying to sign Garh Cahill is good.He has been impressing this season.
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striker and centerback i think as most of the other position is consider good already.
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Striker most important..

Nemeth is coming back.. but injury prone also
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QUOTE(dfadzli @ Apr 20 2010, 12:07 PM)
Striker most important..

Nemeth is coming back.. but injury prone also
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I think the priority is a left back this summer. Insua is not ready for a full season and Aurelio's too injury-prone. How I wish Arby was still here as he could play as LB and RB. =/ It also seems that Degen will be offloaded, anybody still remember him? tongue.gif

A back-up striker and a centreback would be the next priority.
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ya... say, i also cant remember any names for LFC winger.. but, like i said before, strikers are very important now,since we also dont know when is torres gonna come back from injury.. too bad keane wasnt here.. hehe..
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centreback and striker need a change..

winger its ok if maxi babel and kuyt are in form.. too bad rafa dont always play babel.. he is a great player!

get a decent striker..

got news to sign forlan too..

i wan new kits, any1 have XL? away's is in light green?
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We need a quality attacking left back like Bale and a proven striker like Villa

Interesting to see how much Rafa's given this transfer season
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 20 2010, 11:54 AM)
and he's rate 15m isnt it  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 20 2010, 12:12 PM)
better go for winger... never see best winger since .....
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Nowdays, most team don't play winger type of system.
If Liv doesn't have striker good in the air or attack the crosses come in, the winger system is ineffective. Somemore, Rafa likes to play 1 striket upfront only, so I don't think winger system is suitable.

I would say build up the team morale first is the priority, you must have a dressing room or players that are full of confidence, willing to fight and determine.

You spent 100 million also no use if the team cannot gel and players don't have confidence in what they are doing.

And most importantly, don't buy injury prone players.
Or don't buy current injured player.

And one thing is that let the player plays and has their own creativity, in football, although discipline in playing is very important, sometimes, manager needs to let player express themselves has some freedom to perform in the pitch, unless they are making huge mistake which need to be corrected right away.
If not, just let players play accordingly what had been told before the match started.

I don't like manager or coach to give instruction during the match, whenever I play (not in football), unless some urgent issue need to be corrected (or change of tactic )which could be vital for the match outcome.
It affected my game if constantly being told what to do this do that.



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Rafa Benitez believes there are already signs that our new-look Academy is producing exciting talent.

The gaffer instigated big changes down in Kirkby last summer, with the likes of Frank McParland, Kenny Dalglish, Pep Segura and Rodolfo Borrell being drafted in.

One player they are nurturing is 15-year-old left-back Jack Robinson, who was invited to train with the first team last week.

Benitez is hopeful the teenager and several other Academy scholars will soon be ready to train regularly alongside the likes of Jamie Carragher and Steven Gerrard.

"Jack was okay," the boss told Liverpoolfc.tv. "He was a little bit shy at first, a little bit quiet. But the senior players were helping and supporting him. The first training session is never easy but little by little he was better.

"We have to go one step at a time, they have to progress through different teams, but it's always important to meet someone and give the others the message that they can progress if they're doing well. It's a good message for the others now because they have extra motivation.

"We didn't have too many players of the level we were expecting but now the atmosphere is really good and we have more players with quality.

"They have some players in each group and the other day I got a report with different names and different players - but still they are young so they have to keep working very hard if they want to be in the Reserves and then the first team."

Asked what changes had been made at the Academy since last summer, Benitez added: "When I talk with them it's clear they're doing a very good job and all the staff are working very hard to improve and change things. We are really pleased with them.

"We are trying for a different approach in training sessions. The mentality and the way they have to behave is more or less the same because it already wasn't bad.

"The technical plan and how to push the players is now a little bit better."



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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 20 2010, 03:14 PM)
Like that 60 mil gone in no time.
Nowdays, most team don't play winger type of system.
If Liv doesn't have striker good in the air or attack the crosses come in, the winger system is ineffective. Somemore, Rafa likes to play 1 striket upfront only, so I don't think winger system is suitable.

I would say build up the team morale first is the priority, you must have a dressing room or players that are full of confidence, willing to fight and determine.

You spent 100 million also no use if the team cannot gel and players don't have confidence in what they are doing.

And most importantly, don't buy injury prone players.
Or don't buy current injured player. 

And one thing is that let the player plays and has their own creativity, in football, although discipline in playing is very important, sometimes, manager needs to let player express themselves has some freedom to perform in the pitch, unless they are making huge mistake which need to be corrected right away. If not, just let players play accordingly what had been told before the match started.

I don't like manager or coach to give instruction during the match, whenever I play (not in football), unless some urgent issue need to be corrected (or change of tactic )which could be vital for the match outcome.
It affected my game if constantly being told what to do this do that.
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Ditto. I'm surprised how fragile our mentality can be this season, even in interviews you pick up hints that the players already throw in their towels. Eg. Nando's constant complaining of lack of quality players, Stevie devastated with Alonso's departure, Rafa's "Lower fan's expectations" comments. When everything goes wrong, the team broke down so easily and never recovered since.

Couldn't agree more on the injury prone players. No doubt Aqua's a quality player, but Rafa holding him back isn't doing him any good. If you don't want to gamble on an injury prone player, then why buy him in the first place? Thought we should have went for Sneijder instead.

Interesting you should mentioned the bolded part as the interview with Glen Johnson highlighted this:
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You have played under several top managers - who gives the most detailed instructions before a game and have you ever been told just to go out and express yourself?

Certain weeks, a lot of managers will say that and how it's more about what we do than what the opposition do. Sometimes managers do say just worry about yourself - go out there, express yourself and relax. Rafa is quite relaxed before a game and he doesn't drill too many instructions into us because the lads know what they need to do. There is only so much telling we need because we're all professionals, motivated for the game and want to win. Once we cross the white line, it's pretty much down to the players anyway.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...lled-by-kopites

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We know what we needs, but unfortunately each season we will always surprise with signing youth players from abroad. Then after that no news, again in senior side we sign some players who is so so and doesn't preform well. I wonder it is our youth team so terrible until can't even play a matches in the EPL or senior game.

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Well, a 3-0 win to commemorate the news that Hicks & Gillette are finally leaving the club for good. LOL

I'll take it.
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Apr 20 2010, 01:14 PM)
I think the priority is a left back this summer. Insua is not ready for a full season and Aurelio's too injury-prone. How I wish Arby was still here as he could play as LB and RB. =/ It also seems that Degen will be offloaded, anybody still remember him? tongue.gif

A back-up striker and a centreback would be the next priority.
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+1 for this. since can only choose an option from the poll, i go with a good reliable left back and hopefully not injury prone. i read rumours of rafa going after lazio's left back. cant rmb his name kolarov i think.. but i know he's serbian. wonder how good is he. too bad i dont catch italian serie A much and to know that both dossena and aqua struggled to adapt to english football kinda makes me bias towards players playing in italy coming over to england. hmph.
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so..liverpool gonna sell to who?

who is billionaire richer than the arabs?

chinese?
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i hope roman abramovich dump chelsea and go for liverpool
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Steven Pienaar wants his future resolving before the World Cup finals, skysports.com understands.

Everton midfielder Pienaar is currently being tracked by a host of clubs with Tottenham linked with a bid over the weekend.

However, it is also believed that Manchester United and Liverpool are both monitoring the South African's situation at Goodison Park.

Pienaar has just over 12 months left on his current deal and Everton are anxious for him to sign an extension.

"I think Steven would like to know what he is doing next season before the World Cup," his agent Ivan Mudia said.

"I don't think playing in the World Cup will have much bearing on his future."

Everton boss David Moyes is hoping he can persuade Pienaar to sign a new deal, but if he is unable to do so, then the Toffees would be left with the dilemma of whether to sell this summer or allow him to leave for nothing in 12 months' time.


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watching football focus, discussing LFC pulling power to attract footballers coming to LFC next season..
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QUOTE(ADVedder @ Apr 20 2010, 08:40 PM)
watching football focus, discussing LFC pulling power to attract footballers coming to LFC next season..
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Unable to watch it bro...what are their points and comments on LFC?
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its on LFC power to attract top players when we MIGHT not be a CL contender next season and with all the transfer / new owners saga right now..
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We really need to strengthen our midfield..

and by midfield, it include AM, DM, RM and LM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Apr 20 2010, 09:09 PM)
We really need to strengthen our midfield..

and by midfield, it include AM, DM, RM and LM

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I believe Liverpool need a striker that can be Torres partner...no need to buy the mega bucks player....maybe someone like...Darren Bent/Benjani/K. Jones.. Just so that he is not the only focal point for Liverpool attacking..Of course if we can afford David Villa..it would be fantastic...but logically should not buy mega bucks player...

Midfield...already invested in Aquilani..need to give him a go...Lucas...well he is Lucas...not much more to say... Mascherano is a must for the DM part...wingers...i still believe we need a natural player who like to cross the ball into the box... But we already have Bennayoun, Babel, Riera and Kuyt...

I think Kuyt is not a natural crosser of the ball..work ethics- fantastic...he should play as a striker as that is what we bought him for
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our final piece wuld be :
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better go for winger... never see best winger since .....
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since Steve Macmanaman and Patrick Berger....and come Harry Kewell and now, Reira.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 20 2010, 09:44 PM)
our final piece wuld be :
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Carew should compliment Torres....maybe throw in a backup centerback as well...(one for the near future...)


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since Steve Macmanaman and Patrick Berger....and come Harry Kewell and now, Reira.... smile.gif
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guys whats the difference between normal shirt and the hero shirt?i want to place order now but dun want to take wrong one icon_question.gif
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For the age and price of Carew, I can get someone younger and better.
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For the age and price of Carew, I can get someone younger and better.
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guys whats the difference between normal shirt and the hero shirt?i want to place order now but dun want to take wrong one icon_question.gif
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maybe because of the name & number?
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maybe because of the name & number?
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its the same, just that hero they already included the NN.

i do bulk ada orang mau join?but i'll be only coming back to kl in June and only has BPL NN tongue.gif

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Guys...Need help...i never ever had the chance to get a copy of the LFC mag...How to get in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 20 2010, 10:45 PM)
its the same, just that hero they already included the NN.

i do bulk ada orang mau join?but i'll be only coming back to kl in June and only has BPL NN tongue.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 20 2010, 10:17 PM)
For the age and price of Carew, I can get someone younger and better.
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afraid younger player nid more time to adapt to bpl except u mean plike messi , jovetic etc.. we nid a quick backup who ready to score a goal not a backup who nid more time to practice shot or adepting the game cz we oredi gt player like tat in the squad
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QUOTE(Poyo fc @ Apr 20 2010, 09:31 PM)
I believe Liverpool need a striker that can be Torres partner...no need to buy the mega bucks player....maybe someone like...Darren Bent/Benjani/K. Jones.. Just so that he is not the only focal point for Liverpool attacking..Of course if we can afford David Villa..it would be fantastic...but logically should not buy mega bucks player...

Midfield...already invested in Aquilani..need to give him a go...Lucas...well he is Lucas...not much more to say... Mascherano is a must for the DM part...wingers...i still believe we need a natural player who like to cross the ball into the box... But we already have Bennayoun, Babel, Riera and Kuyt...

I think Kuyt is not a natural crosser of the ball..work ethics- fantastic...he should play as a striker as that is what we bought him for
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Since Rafa likes to play 1 striker. Then there is no place for starting eleven for the so called partner striker when Torres is fit time. Unless the player willing to sit on the bench, there is little chance established striker want to come.
Crouch left mainly because of lacking starting chance.

Frankly speaking Liv only have 3 recognised striker, Torres, Ngog, Kyut.

Need to see what the manager liking of system and tactic, before the personnel can fit into it. Rafa very rare play 2 strikers on top.

You want winger to cross the ball, then you must someone that can attack the ball or head the ball into the net. With 1 striker upfront, it means you have 1 target most of the time.
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we should go for JAMES MILNER. pure talent.
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Since Rafa likes to play 1 striker. Then there is no place for starting eleven for the so called partner striker when Torres is fit time. Unless the player willing to sit on the bench, there is little chance established striker want to come.
Crouch left mainly because of lacking starting chance.

Frankly speaking Liv only have 3 recognised striker, Torres, Ngog, Kyut.

Need to see what the manager liking of system and tactic, before the personnel can fit into it. Rafa very rare play 2 strikers on top.

You want winger to cross the ball, then you must someone that can attack the ball or head the ball into the net. With 1 striker upfront, it means you have 1 target most of the time.
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Totally agree with the asessment on Rafa..but the problem with the setup is when Torres gets injured.
That is a very high propabality situation especially as LIVERPOOL play with one striker...the ball will go to Torres most of the time as he is the lone striker (target man)
I think its better to have someone to pair up with him.

Also agree with the assesment on the crosses must come with more target man to benefit from the cross. But most of the time when Liverpool attack there will be men in the middle.
Even when we counterattack, if it's out on the wing, the player will hold the ball and then cross but i think players like Babel, Benayoun - do not cross as much as to be desired.
Kuyt is not a natural winger but has fill in the role for quite some time...but still much to be desired.
Maybe Maxi will change into that type of winger.

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Reina - GK

Agger - CB
Carra - CB
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for me james milner is a gud player but he just offer nothing,, same like i rate lucas
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Don't quite get what you mean when you say that he is a good player but offers nothing? Personally, I've been a fan of Milner since he was a budding 17 year old. I think he has good technique. Not the quickest bloke but he has a good head on his shoulders.
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Am I only one who thinks that the main priority is not to buy a striker but is for the new doctor to keep Fernando Torres fit? We haven't had Torres fully fit for a whole season and we know how an injured star striker could affect a team, eg. Rooney, Van Persie. Hopefuly the Australian doctor would improve the fitness condition of our players.

In an Arabian fantasy word, I would like a David Villa but in reality, N'Gog and Kuyt are sufficient as backups.
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wat i mean is he has good teknik n acceptable pace but he doesnt hav a factor which can change the game tempo..
it's like when ur team 1-0 behind and rafa sub in lucas in the middle of the game hoping he can make the difference which is plain useless...

if wan england player i wuld take in packing order :
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Apr 21 2010, 09:03 AM)
Am I only one who thinks that the main priority is not to buy a striker but is for the new doctor to keep Fernando Torres fit? We haven't had Torres fully fit for a whole season and we know how an injured star striker could affect a team, eg. Rooney, Van Persie. Hopefuly the Australian doctor would improve the fitness condition of our players.

In an Arabian fantasy word, I would like a David Villa but in reality, N'Gog and Kuyt are sufficient as backups.
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chelsea - anelka, kalou, sturridge (exclude drogba)
city - adebayor, bellamy, santa cruz (exclude tevez)
spurs - crouch, palychenko, gudjohnsen (exclude defoe)

rafa always play kuyt at right, so we really only have ngog. by comparison, our backup is the worst. each "strong" team should have a reliable backup striker, one who can become a match winner when needed.
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Liverpool - pacheco, ngog, Nemeth (exclude Torres)
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QUOTE(normeck @ Apr 21 2010, 10:12 AM)
Liverpool - pacheco, ngog, Nemeth (exclude Torres)
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no experienced at all.. we nid more experienced backup like chelski...
young or not lain citer
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Apr 21 2010, 09:59 AM)
MU - berba, owen, macheda (exclude rooney)
arsenal - bendtner, eduardo (exclude van persie)
chelsea - anelka, kalou, sturridge (exclude drogba)
city - adebayor, bellamy, santa cruz (exclude tevez)
spurs - crouch, palychenko, gudjohnsen (exclude defoe)

rafa always play kuyt at right, so we really only have ngog. by comparison, our backup is the worst. each "strong" team should have a reliable backup striker, one who can become a match winner when needed.
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Yeah, but correct me if I'm wrong, they are not exactly lone striker teams as well. Chelsea pairs Drog with Anelka, United - Rooney with Berba, City - Tevez with Ade while Bellamy on the left. Well worse comes to worst we still have Babel and Nemeth. laugh.gif Not sure what you mean by match winner though as I don't really consider the backups you've listed as match winner. If anything, Kuyt and N'gog are as much a match winner as their counterparts.

But I agree with you that compared to our rivals (Save for Arsenal) we are short of out-and-out strikers. With Voronin off, it's safe to say we could expect a similarly priced striker coming in?
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QUOTE(Poyo fc @ Apr 21 2010, 02:02 AM)
Totally agree with the asessment on Rafa..but the problem with the setup is when Torres gets injured.
That is a very high propabality situation especially as LIVERPOOL play with one striker...the ball will go to Torres most of the time as he is the lone striker (target man)
I think its better to have someone to pair up with him.

Also agree with the assesment on the crosses must come with more target man to benefit from the cross. But most of the time when Liverpool attack there will be men in the middle.
Even when we counterattack, if it's out on the wing, the player will hold the ball and then cross but i think players like Babel, Benayoun - do not cross as much as to be desired.
Kuyt is not a natural winger but has fill in the role for quite some time...but still much to be desired.
Maybe Maxi will change into that type of winger.

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Reina - GK

Agger - CB
Carra - CB
Johnson - RB/LB
Aurelio - RB/LB

Mascherano MD
Aquilani MD
Maxi MD
Benayoun MD

Gerrard AMD
Torres ST

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Bennayoun
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i still doubt aquilani can play full match next season,, guess he can only play around 2x game per season
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i still doubt aquilani can play full match next season,, guess he can only play around 2x game per season
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hope he has a good world cup because he is too vunerable to injury. if we are to make him a key player, we need someone who can be fit most of the time. if he have a good wc, then we can sell him for a better price
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QUOTE(Petre @ Apr 21 2010, 11:22 AM)
hope he has a good world cup because he is too vunerable to injury. if we are to make him a key player, we need someone who can be fit most of the time. if he have a good wc, then we can sell him for a better price
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Should I stay or should I go? Liverpool star Yossi Benayoun questions his Anfield future

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aquilani should stay.
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Yossi can leaves if he wants, IMHO. He has already delivered his role in Rafa's plans; the super-sub.

I'm still sticking to the idea that Rafa is trying to buy 2 of each, making variations of team A, Team B, Team C, option D, in the limited resources as he sees it.

In this case, Yossi can go, I think. He's served the purpose well, but of course we want a better Yossi that came on the pitch and won us games.


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if ngog said like tat i wuld say he can leave if he wan
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Lfc the long travel to madrid game (europa), looks like atletico starts as favorites given long journey saps players mental strength.

look at barcelona last night, got whacked 1-3 after the long bus journey to milan from spain for the game.
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Apr 21 2010, 02:27 PM)
Lfc the long travel to madrid game (europa), looks like atletico starts as favorites given long journey saps players mental strength.

look at barcelona last night, got whacked 1-3 after the long bus journey to milan from spain for the game.
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heh last season chelsea travel to us in ucl but still we gt beaten 3-1 at home o.o
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heh last season chelsea travel to us in ucl but still we gt beaten 3-1 at home o.o
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/20...o-madrid-travel

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personally, just my opinion though, if RB really gets 60mil to spend during the summer, david villa is one good target, even if valencia value him at 40mil.

we are in a situation where no players in the squad apart from torres and gerrard can win games by themselves, and we have seen how this affected our season when either or both of them are out injured. torres may score less when playing alongside villa, but the important point is that torres is able to complement villa's playing style and bring the best out of the other spanish striker. we've seen during the last two summers where either one of them will score when playing together.

villa would be able to drop further back as supporting striker, replacing gerrard who can move back to central midfield where he can dictate the flow of the game. i'm reasonably comfortable with our wingers at the moment, these are the least of our worries for the time being.

skrtel had a poor season thus far, but before he went injured he was regaining his form that made him a regular last season. agger is good enough if he can stay fit for a season, soto's a good back-up and has aerial dominance like hyypia. carra is getting slower as the years pass, and to be honest he lacks the footballing brains and touches to terrorize opposition players, over these few years many strikers have proved that he is not really that hard to play against.

i voted for a striker solely because we lack credible players in that position at the moment. there's one signing already this summer but i'd like to think that every club should have at least 4 strikers who can go straight into the first team. ngog will drop in the pecking orders but that doesn't mean he won't improve over the next couple of years. who knows maybe ngog will be as prolific as torres in two years' time?
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40 million for a player who will sit on the bench and iirc will be 30 soon? no thanks.
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40m for villa is abit overprice as of now considering his age. 30m will be a good buy. well, as if Valencia is willing to settle with 30m. lol
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is ngok isnt good enuf???
i tot ppl said him is a good backup

for me 60m i wuld throw for messi ... ( and yes i joke )
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60million + torres + gerrard + mascherano would be more then enuff to tempt Barca. =)
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40 million for a player who will sit on the bench and iirc will be 30 soon? no thanks.
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well, of course that's just a value i put there for the sake of discussion. i don't know if he'll even be available for transfer this summer, but what i'm trying to bring into discussion is that we currently lack matchwinners in the team, and villa would be a good addition from the pool of players we can look at.

having said that, nobody knows how he will perform in BPL, he could be a total flop, but at least he's got some reputation for creating goalscoring oppoturnities and winning matches for valencia for the past few seasons when the team failed to perform. we can sign all the kuyts, mascheranos, maxis on a bargain, but what's the point when they can't score the winning goal when we need them to?
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QUOTE(LucasPSS @ Apr 21 2010, 05:29 PM)
60million + torres + gerrard + mascherano would be more then enuff to tempt Barca. =)
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With all our star player gone I m sure he is not interested to join us even we have are double him his wages
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QUOTE(melt @ Apr 21 2010, 05:44 PM)
Yah Barca will be tempted but not Messi...  laugh.gif

With all our star player gone I m sure he is not interested to join us even we have are double him his wages
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LOL no la. Its purely insane. not like rafa will opt for messi and forego our 3 stars.
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for me ngog is good...
he can be better since his positioning is really good...
need to train hard on his finishing to be a real threat to other team...
just an opinion from me...
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40 million for a player who will sit on the bench and iirc will be 30 soon? no thanks.
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Apr 21 2010, 05:41 PM)
well, of course that's just a value i put there for the sake of discussion. i don't know if he'll even be available for transfer this summer, but what i'm trying to bring into discussion is that we currently lack matchwinners in the team, and villa would be a good addition from the pool of players we can look at.

having said that, nobody knows how he will perform in BPL, he could be a total flop, but at least he's got some reputation for creating goalscoring oppoturnities and winning matches for valencia for the past few seasons when the team failed to perform. we can sign all the kuyts, mascheranos, maxis on a bargain, but what's the point when they can't score the winning goal when we need them to?
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I'd offer no more than 10 million for him, and even then i'd think twice. Not an insult to his qualities, but more of the fact that Rafa never seems to want to play two upfront. Keane was on paper a very decent link man, a decent leader and a match winner, but that did not turn out well did it?

What Liverpool needs imho is a solid defensive leftback and for Rafa to actually fight the good fight, instead of TALKing the good fight. I'm ok with Kuyt on the right, cause Johnson, despite all his gung ho attacking qualities defends like a sissy.

But then, what would I know? I'm a Stockport supporter. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 21 2010, 05:50 PM)
adakah sebegitu hina kita ini??? 
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Not that we are that low but it is common sense. A club selling 3 star player for 1 player? Is the team going forward or backwards? sweat.gif
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we got milan janakovic for free, why the need for soon to be 30yr old villa? left back and left mid is still our priority (since i dont think reira will have any chances)
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Apr 21 2010, 07:08 PM)
we got milan janakovic for free, why the need for soon to be 30yr old villa? left back and left mid is still our priority (since i dont think reira will have any chances)
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as long as we got good LM the LB will be no prob,, plus agger can lb really well..
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With some of the supporters we have here, who needs rival supporters? We're doing a good enough job insulting and belittling our own players.
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QUOTE(Fyrekat @ Apr 21 2010, 09:36 PM)
With some of the supporters we have here, who needs rival supporters? We're doing a good enough job insulting and belittling our own players.
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Anyway,feel bad for the upcoming match...We are physically and mentally weak for it....Travel by train, playing away...It just toooooo much for the current team to deal with.... sad.gif


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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 21 2010, 11:20 PM)
QFT  smile.gif

Anyway,feel bad for the upcoming match...We are physically and mentally weak for it....Travel by train, playing away...It just toooooo much for the current team to deal with.... sad.gif
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Chill.

We're here to create an away goal, and if possible, try not to lose big. A 0-0 draw would be unfavourable, though.
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Beckford? I don't know, he complains alot.
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Rush on Who Rafa should replace Nando with

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch...lace-nando-with
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Sols, u shud update this season's goalscorer board ady smile.gif

If we were to stay in top four, we need to buy 1 LM, 1 LB, 1 CB of world class level to fit into our starting 11.

---------------------------Reina----------------------------

Johnson------ New CB -------- Agger -------- New LB

Maxi -------- Masch ------------ Aqua ------- New LM

-------------------------Gerrard----------------------------

---------------------------Torres----------------------------


As for backup, we nit to buy 1 RB, 2 CM, 1 ST.

The full list of replacements:

GK: Cavalieri
RB: NEED TO BUY ONE
CB: Carra, Kyrgiakos, Skrtel
LB: Aurelio, Insua

RM: Benayoun, Kuyt
CM: NEED TO BUY TWO
LM: Babel

ST: N'gog, NEED TO BUY ONE

IMO, Lucas shud be loaned for experience.

So as a whole, we would nit 1 RB, 1CB, 1LB, 2CMs, 1LM and 1 ST with real class if we were to challenge the title for the next season.
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Rush on Who Rafa should replace Nando with

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch...lace-nando-with
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imho if we were to buy it should be LB and Winger.

I know Insua is young and all but you gotta admit it's the weakest link in that defence. Aurelio is injury prone.

Kuyt, Benayoun and Babel are not natural wingers.

i thought we already sign a new striker?Let's be frank, which 'world class' striker is gonna come and sit on the bench waiting for torres to get injured?Unless of course Rafa is willing to drop Gerrard to CM and play 4-4-2 but we all know the answer don't we?
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no need to waste money on LB.. we culd use agger if there's needed.. then y we buy Chris Mavinga if dun use him???
is he bought to be sell??
when he become good then we complain we sell him to quickly?? boring with this kind of shit
we got too many defensive line..it's unfair to drop krgtkos cz he doin brilliant now.. agger is keep pushing for 1st team.. skrtel look no hope to start for 1st team with this situation... future prospect ayala still dun hav chance to prove himself and yet i think he jus another waste talent...

for now we only nid :
silva for wide player
arda / young / mata for pure winger
raul / carew for backup striker
michael johnson for cheap price as alternative for aquaman / lucass.. aquaman will injured again next season so better buy backup rather than complainin on lucas



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Rafa should hav snapped up Robben

look wat he done do Munchien now, he is the saviour now thumbup.gif
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Obviously a fake one...with all the naked part blah blah blah laugh.gif sweat.gif
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It's hilarious biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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After witnessing Barca's loss, I wonder how much the fatigue from travelling actually affected them. Line-up predictions anybody? Reina, Johnson, Carra, Soto, Agger, Masch, Gerrard, Babel, Benayoun, Ngog, Kuyt

Yes, no Aquilani. tongue.gif

QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 22 2010, 09:37 AM)
Obviously a fake one...with all the naked part blah blah blah  laugh.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Apr 22 2010, 11:48 AM)
After witnessing Barca's loss, I wonder how much the fatigue from travelling actually affected them. Line-up predictions anybody? Reina, Johnson, Carra, Soto, Agger, Masch, Gerrard, Babel, Benayoun, Ngog, Kuyt

Yes, no Aquilani. tongue.gif
Definitely fake but I rofl at his tweets. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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My lineup prediction:


Reina

Glenny---Carra---SotoNG---Agger

---------Masch-------Lucas----------

Benny--------Gerrard-----------Babel

---------------Kuyt----------------------




Btw, what's the time for tonight's match? blink.gif

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ATL MADRID VS LIVERPOOL

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 22 2010, 12:06 PM)
My lineup prediction:


Reina

Glenny---Carra---SotoNG---Agger

---------Masch-------Lucas----------

Benny--------Gerrard-----------Babel

---------------Kuyt----------------------


Btw, what's the time for tonight's match? blink.gif
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i'm wondering, if babel given striker position is a better idea, with kuyt at right, benni at left hmm.gif
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Agger cant be our solution to LB. he is a CB and it will only be a matter of time before he starts beh-song. get a good LB and solve our problem once and for all. after all, Agger is supposed to be our future CB alonside skrtel. the greek aint gonna be there long and have suspect games for us.

dont know the jovanovic guy. as far as i am concerned, i dont think you can win league titles with free transfer players
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whatever happened to Fabio?
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whatever happened to Fabio?
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QUOTE(Petre @ Apr 22 2010, 02:04 PM)
Agger cant be our solution to LB. he is a CB and it will only be a matter of time before he starts beh-song. get a good LB and solve our problem once and for all. after all, Agger is supposed to be our future CB alonside skrtel. the greek aint gonna be there long and have suspect games for us.

dont know the jovanovic guy. as far as i am concerned, i dont think you can win league titles with free transfer players
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i wuld not spend more than 10m for LB... pure waste.. 30m side back almost only noe how to atk then forget how to defend well... see how sux alves defending when against pure grade team like inter
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 22 2010, 04:20 PM)
i wuld not spend more than 10m for LB... pure waste.. 30m side back almost only noe how to atk then forget how to defend well... see how sux alves defending when against pure grade team like inter
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Waste of money? Dude, don't you know he was an integral part of the Barcelona team that won the historic treble? Like most attacking fullbacks, Alves' defending can be a little suspect at times but 90% of the time you're not playing an Inter or a strong side. To be fair to him, Barca was poor all over the pitch in that night.

Don't judge a player based on performance of one match.
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 22 2010, 04:20 PM)
i wuld not spend more than 10m for LB... pure waste.. 30m side back almost only noe how to atk then forget how to defend well... see how sux alves defending when against pure grade team like inter
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We all know Johnson is about as good in defense as say... Torres, but to say that players of his and Alves' nature are a waste of money shows that you my good sir are an idiot.

PS. Congratulations. You must be one of the first persons I have directly insulted here in this thread, but your constant spout of bullcrap every single day is really really starting to grate.

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 22 2010, 04:10 PM)
Injured and his contract ends this summer.No talks of renewal yet.Most likely losing him on free. sad.gif
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The way Liv managing players contract need to be reviewed. It is not the first time, Liv cannot generate good transfer fee due to contract near expire issue, previously Owen also similar case.

If the player don't want to renew the contract when contract approaching near like 2 years or less, then some key decision need to be done.

Keep on spending money to buy player, but always lose player with cheap and free transfer will affect the club financially, especially Liv doesn't have big budget nor financially very strong to compete with others.
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Dunno whether this has been posted before or not...but check this video out about Torres being quizzed:

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/eseason/Features...es-L-18451.php3

Torres actually do love the club by the number of correct answers he get! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 22 2010, 05:54 PM)
We all know Johnson is about as good in defense as say... Torres, but to say that players of his and Alves' nature are a waste of money shows that you my good sir are an idiot.

PS. Congratulations. You must be one of the first persons I have directly insulted here in this thread, but your constant spout of bullcrap every single day is really really starting to grate.
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so u wanna throw another 20m LB then? then go on.. carra is slow.. other CB is inconsistent..our defend will turn from shit to bulshit... most of scored concede is created from left and scored from right... thre's no nid having 2 two attakin SB in a team cz all attkin SB is sux in covering their zone..agger can do really well as a SB till aurelio is fit...

and yes spendin 20m for position tat can only support 30% of atakin and reducing 30% defence is pretty much waste rather than 20m for wide player/scorer who can be the match winner

i duno like to insult ppl like u cz i can easily get banned.. duno why

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Okay, now that i have 'lepas stim' a bit, I apologize for my earlier outburst.

Not to sound elitist or anything, but the quality of this thread been steadily going down the drain. Very few of the old regulars bother to post at all nowadays. Why?

Because of the amount of nonsense that gets posted in here. You newer guys can definitely contribute if you self censor your spam. Is there a need to post knee jerk reactions? Is there a need to insult the players? Is there a need to recycle the views and opinions of the general press? NO.

When you want to say something, think about it objectively, and present a solid argument to support your views. I'm ok with the one liners during matches (would be better if we had online beer as well laugh.gif) but during the lull between matches I miss the times when we would 'argue' amongst ourselves about all things Liverpool.

Having gotten that off my chest, I would like to sadly announce to you guys that Stockport County has unfortunately been relegated once again cry.gif which is the expected outcome when you've only won 5 matches all season. Damn.

On the other hand, I do not really understand why Johnson is such a wimp at what he is nominally supposed to do, being a defender and all. He seems to be relatively speedy and with good stamina. He has no problems bombing up and down the flanks (unlike Insua, who unfortunately moves about as fast as an underpowered SUV), is a strong looking muscular and aggresive lad (again, unlike Insua who looks like a slightly pudgy, whiny teenager a.k.a. Ron in HP, which i am sure he is not) YET Insua is about as capable a defender as he is!!! At least Insua has an excuse to be caught out of position!!! I would have expected that Rafa to have drilled some discipline into Johnson by now sad.gif


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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 22 2010, 06:36 PM)
Okay, now that i have 'lepas stim' a bit, I apologize for my earlier outburst.

Not to sound elitist or anything, but the quality of this thread been steadily going down the drain. Very few of the old regulars bother to post at all nowadays. Why?

Because of the amount of nonsense that gets posted in here. You newer guys can definitely contribute if you self censor your spam. Is there a need to post knee jerk reactions? Is there a need to insult the players? Is there a need to recycle the views and opinions of the general press? NO.
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Apr 22 2010, 05:33 PM)
Waste of money? Dude, don't you know he was an integral part of the Barcelona team that won the historic treble? Like most attacking fullbacks, Alves' defending can be a little suspect at times but 90% of the time you're not playing an Inter or a strong side. To be fair to him, Barca was poor all over the pitch in that night.

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This.

It was joked that in the past if you were a brute with no skills you were made to play centerback. If you were Gary Neville a short brute with no skills you were told to be the left/right backs laugh.gif

Back to the bolded part though, I cannot agree more. Attacking fullbacks might well be flat track bullies, but a team of Liverpool's stature and quality (on paper at least) is expected to face inferior opposition more often than not! And we were all asking for a quality attacking right back to complement Kuyt - who, let's be honest here, you do not want to be playing up top as the goal's here are much smalletr than they are in Holland brows.gif and will also never be dropped on account of him being Rafa's fav plaything.

If anyone is to be at fault, Rafa should be blamed for not being able to tailor his tactics to bring out the best from his squad, much like him trying to play last season's formation sans Alonso. Marks of a tactical genius? shakehead.gif I think not.


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it's no use to spam here cz it never add my post  doh.gif
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I do hope you are trying to lighten up the mood, but have you realised that we actually have more one liners in here AFTER they disabled the post count?

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i dun like hangin in football sec cz it's sometime boring.. mostly hang on kopitiam & real world sec cz it purely joke in there..

the purely boring part here is mostly same player like lucas / ngok / insua will always get flamed here (includin me) no matter wat dey do

nogg shot is terrible
lucas nothin to offer
insua always missin defence line
babel is dumb

tat's really norm for norm young player.. if wan train a young player to become top we must faced this kind of challenge.. dey onli nid a constant performance to forged up their weak point.. 2-3 season constant play dey'll either turn good or world class..
torres played since he was 17/18 aged in athelico and only score a few goal for his 1st few season in athelico before he turn good

so wan a forged player better support chelsea cz dey'll directly go for ribery instead of trainin their youngster

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does we oso nid defender.. letting concede 4goals is tooooo bad for team like us


I think we do not need to add defender..The only thing is how to get the right combination on two center-back. I love watching agger with skrtel/krygkos combined which will push carragher on right back.

my vote striker..we need additional striker badly..
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QUOTE(malekmb @ Apr 22 2010, 08:37 PM)
I think we do not need to add defender..The only thing is how to get the right combination on two center-back. I love watching agger with skrtel/krygkos combined which will push carragher on right back.

my vote striker..we need additional striker badly..
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did u the one said if we concede 3goal n scored 4goal still we can get 3pts something like tat???
if yes them i wanna comment on ur post tats all... conceding 3goal is unacceptable for a big team n thre's must be prob with if tat happened.. even the striker score 4goal then u opponet rescored another 2goal mean u team lose 5-4 sweat.gif

anyway i agree this idea.. we dun really nid a new defender cz we oredi got many now like i posted b4
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we have the complete squad imo..

whats wrong if we put agger as left back??

we still have ayala smile.gif.. the lads good imo..

central/attacking midfield we have gerrard and aquaman
defensive midfield we have masch and lucas.. reserve wise we have plesis smile.gif

wings we have babel,yossi,el-zhar,pacheco..

fowards .. kuyt,torres

imo liverpool right now is like a very creative team if u know how to use it.. example..

if we play 4-4-1-1

glen - carra - agger - insua
kuyt - masch - aquaman - babel
-gerrard -
-torres -

you can put this formation while we are attacking with the ball in our possesion

masch - carra - agger
glen - aquaman - insua
gerrard - kuyt - babel
torres

we've got 2 good centrebacks .. carragher and agger.. not to mention mascherano too while playing defensively..
aurelio imo is a tad better than insua while defending..

i wanna see nemeth play first before adding that we need a striker
seeing reira go was bad already for the club doh.gif

why can't benitez see this doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

this is actually how barca plays the ball imo.. or something similiar..

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 22 2010, 06:45 PM)
This.

It was joked that in the past if you were a brute with no skills you were made to play centerback. If you were Gary Neville a short brute with no skills you were told to be the left/right backs  laugh.gif 

Back to the bolded part though, I cannot agree more. Attacking fullbacks might well be flat track bullies, but a team of Liverpool's stature and quality (on paper at least) is expected to face inferior opposition more often than not! And we were all asking for a quality attacking right back to complement Kuyt - who, let's be honest here, you do not want to be playing up top as the goal's here are much smalletr than they are in Holland  brows.gif  and will also never be dropped on account of him being Rafa's fav plaything.

If anyone is to be at fault, Rafa should be blamed for not being able to tailor his tactics to bring out the best from his squad, much like him trying to play last season's formation sans Alonso. Marks of a tactical genius?  shakehead.gif  I think not.
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To add on, an attacking fullback will make the opposition winger think twice whether to move forward or track back. You're right, Rafa seems to get the right kind of players but seem to fail in getting the best out of them.

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ATL MADRID VS LIVERPOOL

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Portsmouth will not be permitted to play in the Europa League next season, the Football Association and Premier League have told the club.

Portsmouth would have qualified to play in Europe next season after reaching the FA Cup final against Chelsea - who will be in the Champions League - but the club's administrators have been told that any late application for a UEFA club licence will not be considered due to the financial problems.

Cup finalists Portsmouth told to forget Europa League lifeline

A joint statement from the FA and Premier League said: "The FA and Premier League have confirmed to the administrators of Portsmouth Football Club that they shall not consider any late application for granting of a UEFA Club Licence for the 2010-11 season."
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The decision means that the team who finish seventh in the Premier League - currently Liverpool - would play in the Europa League instead.

UEFA had said Portsmouth could submit a late application before May 31 but the Premier League and the FA believe Portsmouth's financial situation - debts total £119million - is so bad that they would not meet any of the criteria.

The administrators do not expect the club to go in to a company voluntary agreement (CVA) until June 6, while the fact that so much money is owed to clubs, other football creditors and Her Majesty's Customs and Revenues.

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Portsmouth's administrator Andrew Andronikou had been confident that he could make a case for the club to be given the licence and said the ruling was unfair on Pompey fans.

Andronikou told Press Association Sport: "We have spent a long time going through all the necessary steps and we had hoped to make an application next week.

"We felt that we would do our bit and that it would be up to the FA and the Premier League to do theirs.

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did u the one said if we concede 3goal n scored 4goal still we can get 3pts something like tat???
if yes them i wanna comment on ur post tats all... conceding 3goal is unacceptable for a big team n thre's must be prob with if tat happened.. even the striker score 4goal then u opponet rescored another 2goal mean u team lose 5-4  sweat.gif

anyway i agree this idea.. we dun really nid a new defender cz we oredi got many now like i posted b4
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The only one(s) that seem to have problem with the mentality of "if they score 1 goal, we score 2. If they score 2, we're going to score 3" / philosophy of footballing would be YOU (skeleton202) and Red Nose.

You want some facts? Straight from Rudi Voller himself, he said those words that I've quoted and unquoted. Was it in WORLD CUP 2002 or EURO 2004, but I dare swear that he did.

I recall when Red Nose sarcastically made a comment last season about Liverpool and Arsenal's game, where he said the score looked more like a game of cricket, not football. Or something along those lines.

My point here being?

whether its 1-0 or a 10-9 scoreline, a goal is still a goal, and a lead is still a lead. You've got problems with that? Rudi Voller didn't. The entire Germany team didn't. Though they bowed out in the game (got defeated by eventual winners) but all out their "journey" they proved a point.

So what's wrong if Liverpool started leaking goals like in last season, and still win? I find no problem. Absolutely no problem. The entire debate about to man mark or to zonal mark, it'll rage on till the cows go home, the old fat lady sings, or whatever, but if i'm looking in perspective, a win is still a win, even if the entire game got me glued to my seat panting and sweating due to near-heart-attacks-esque syndrome.

What's wrong with Glen Johnson attacking? What's wrong with Insua being unable to defend? Its as good as questioning why Roberto Carlos doesn't stick to his offside trap-line instead of attacking.

And not to mention, Roberto Carlos is also a suspect when it comes to defending too. Many goals were conceded just because he wasn't able to race back in time to defend his side properly.

Back to Liverpool. What goes with Glen Johnson in Liverpool. So we can't have attacking defenders now? AFAIK, when Glen Johnson plays, he delivers the balls. He holds up well, he brings up the ball into the midfield (where he tries to score) or down the flanks where he crosses. I'm not a person with good memory, but IIRC one or two goals by Dirk Kuyt down the flank are all because Glen Johnson was able to bring the ball from his side down to the half-line, before chipping it to Kurt who set it up.

When we've got defenders that can attack (in cases of set pieces, you even see Kyriagkos running up to get a piece of the action, nearly scoring possible a few headers himself), its a luxury that Liverpool (and other teams too!) should utilize.


In the end, I'll say most Liverpool supporters, if indeed we're winning 5-4, 3-2, and 6-5, won't be grunting about "comebacks". The only thing they'll grumble? Try to get a better sheet or a clean one. But nothing nasty, and nothing malicious.

If that is a problem.

I stand by my opinion until I'm corrected.


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hey the game starts at 2:45 or at 3:00??
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I got no prob with leaking goals but end up outscoring your opponents. That 3 pts in the bag, closer to the title. And i do remember when before glenny was bought, some guys here posted that our fullbacks ain't attacking enuff. We bought glenny, and now there are some here who complaints he does not doing well in defensive.

Yes, i must admit that he is a bit weak defensively but you can't get an absolute perfect fullback, its just human nature. I just hope next season we can continue with the core of the team with 3-4 new faces. Yes, i hope glenny will stay with us next season.

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yea, pre glenny, fans wants an attacking minded defender.. when thats happen, people says he didnt defend enough.. hmm..
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The main problem of this season Liv facing is inability to score goal, especially in away matches.

Can look at the statistic, straight away can pinpoint out the weakness. Only manage to win 4 games for the entire 17 away matches, and only score 14 goals only out of 17 matches which is the lowest in the top half table teams. Even Birmingham 18, Everton 25 goals, is miles better than.

For home games, Liv just win 13 matches out of 18, which just shy 1 win as compared to MU, and Arsenal, and better than Spurs.

I would say, it could be down to too negativity mindset, tactics issue as well.
1 striker + 2 DM, is not threating enough opponent goals.


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To have Gleeny has been positive for the team. I also hope he will be with us next season.
He offers an attractive part in our attacking...defensively..he has a few flaws.
I am personally ok with it...

Carra, Agger, Skrtel, Insua, Aurelio are good and with Reina...defensively it's quite solid.

Gerrard, Masch, Kuyt, Babel, Benny, and Lucas are also a very attractive midfield.
Lucas has improved but to fill in the shoes of Xabi especially when Gerrard was injured and Aquilani unfit/injured...may be asking too much.

I personally want to see more of Aquilani.
He's actually quite good with ROMA and i believe he has to prove himself next season. He has vision with some good passes provided...with consistency he may prove a good buy..(at least thats what i'm hoping)

Ngog has filled the gaps when Torres is not around..may not be such a wonderkid but definately has shown some promise. Torres is instrumental but has been hit with injury problems..which i think to be a winning league side, we cannot afford. So i'm hoping for that matter to be looked into by Rafa.
Agreed that Kuyt is a striker but he is always deployed wide...and sometimes it's affective but sometimes it's frustrating...i like him as he is a workaholic and has covered a few position when we're hit with injuries but as i mention, our side need to be able to go on and get the result even when Torres / Gerrard are injured.

My ideal team for next season without the inclusion of newbies

1. Reina
2. Carra
3. Agger
4. Glenny
5. ..... (Aurelio/Insua)

6. Masch
7. Aquilani
8. Gerrard
9. ...... (Maxi/Benny/ babel)

10. Torres
11. ..... (Ngog/Kuyt)


Just my 2 cents
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Is Milan Jovanovic will join us next summer?
how do u guys find that Milan can be a gud backup for torres?


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I think we do not need to add defender..The only thing is how to get the right combination on two center-back. I love watching agger with skrtel/krygkos combined which will push carragher on right back.

my vote striker..we need additional striker badly..
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skrtel/kyrgiakos will simply become carra's successor once carra retire later..
our defenders are all gud already and we dun need to add player in that position..
guys pls dun put blame only on our defenders just becos we conceded much goal this season..
i can say our whole team were inconsistent and lack of confident n determination, but dun blame individual player only, that's not fair...


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Liverpool: Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Kyrgiakos, Agger, Kuyt, Lucas, Mascherano, Benayoun, Gerrard, Ngog. Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Degen, El Zhar, Ayala, Pacheco, Babel.
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Haih. Too early la. Morale fall rapidly.
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I feel our defend is very weak. Haiz ~ and attack without torres. Expected la. lose is the way. Failure Liverpool.. haiz..
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The only thing that can make me smile now is Forlan foundt a phone on the pitch. laugh.gif

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Over an hour gone and no decent chances created apart from gerrard's snapshot. It' shardly entertaining football with almost every player looking barely interested. Ngog and benayoun looked terribly lethargic and can't keep up with opposition pllayers' runs.

We look to be pretty lucky if we can get away with a 1 goal deficit. The players are all out of sorts, just saw how a wondeerfully created chance that fell for kuyt and we somehow can't even manage a shot.

Would hope to see 'livelier' players coming into the side, at the moment babel seemed to be making an impact, perhaps el zhar could further lit up the fire.
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the ref is a lil poor imo.. and why cant aqua get a game ? mad.gif
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They keep wasting time sad.gif

Their players keep rolling over the field.Sigh....Hopefully, we can turn the tie over next week.

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gerrard is trying to play.. he is working hard..
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Well, so are we. Can't complain much about the scoreline, their keeper can walk to the cafe and have a cup of coffee during the game and still not concede. Not a single save to make.
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Stupid game, stupid goal, stupid Lucas,

Poor Stevie.. He tried so hard but others just not up to match him.. sad.gif


Added on April 23, 2010, 4:55 amDegen is on the bench, just make him as right back, Glenny as left and Dagger as our striker! He's better than that stupid Ngog.. Even Glenny is better..

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i sense that rafa would rather take the 1-0 defeat then go for the so ever important away goal but the tie aint dead yet so hopefully we can turn it around in anfield !
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Post this before anyone bash N'Gog yet again.Those who bash him must be those who didn't watch the match...Nobody creates chances for him and he actually has to drop deep to collect ball for a couple of times.We need someone who can create chances to be added into our squad...


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Stupid game, stupid goal, stupid Lucas,

Poor Stevie.. He tried so hard but others just not up to match him.. sad.gif


Added on April 23, 2010, 4:55 amDegen is on the bench, just make him as right back, Glenny as left and Dagger as our striker! He's better than that stupid Ngog.. Even Glenny is better..
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Bad defense

Bad midfielders

Bad striker

Nothing good at all. We gave up before kick off.
1800 km wasted especially for Aquaman. I can't believe i stayed up for this bullshit.

I don't think i've heard the no 43 keeper's name mentioned at all
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I watch the match solstice, and in fact, I hardly see Ngog touches the ball.. Yes he drop back quite a bit but it hardly impress me..

And we're so poor today, the only players that I think deserve a 6 is Gerrard and Reina.. Others doh.gif
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we'll just have to score 3 at Anfield.
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Fulham got a better result compared to us. Let's face it, 1-0 away defeat after travelling over 2600miles isn't all that bad, especially since we played piss poor.

Ath madrid may rue wasting the chances to kill off the tie, we weren't anywhere near competitive level, and after this match it's another long journey back, concerns now is on our league match. Will we be as lethargic as shown in this match?

Attention back to the league after another amateurish display.

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It seems like we lose a shitload of away games

From last 6 EPL away game, 3 lost and 3 draws

Europa/CL? Almost all
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We still have hope in Europa League, but lets face it.. We should dump our 4th place since three games ago.. I mean, two draws before the win at West Ham effectively killed our chances
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I watch the match solstice, and in fact, I hardly see Ngog touches the ball.. Yes he drop back quite a bit but it hardly impress me..

And we're so poor today, the only players that I think deserve a 6 is Gerrard and Reina.. Others doh.gif
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Why is he to blame for hardly touches the ball?From what I seen, we lose possession like peanuts.I'm not saying that he was impressing because all he did were few good touches and good ball control.That's it... but he is hardly there to take the blame either.

Glenny's slipped actually almost cause us a goal.Krygiakos again, with his bad positioning and gets the tick off from Carra.Carra isn't any better to be honest.Agger wasn't that impressive at all on left. sweat.gif


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It seems like we lose a shitload of away games

From last 6 EPL away game, 3 lost and 3 draws

Europa/CL? Almost all
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Yeap.We are TERRIBLE in away games. We have YET to win any away matches in year 2010.Can you believe that? sweat.gif

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estimated result...

so blame for the referee for this joking football???

spanish team oso too physical for our cameo...
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Solstice, that's the reason why they don't deserve a 6 tonight.. and that including ngog! they just poor tonight.. thanks to reina, or we might trailed by 3 goals!

not blaming the referee at all.. yossi's goal was an offside and referee got that spot on.. its just we played very poorly.. seriously, with this kind of play, we didn't deserve to be at semi..

maybe all players are too tired after such lengthy journey but if they repeat this kind of game at Anfield, then I don't know what to say..

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didnt expect much. We always make it hard for ourselves in the first leg and came back fighting in the 2nd. Lets see in the next 90 minutes of football. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 23 2010, 05:03 AM)
Why is he to blame for hardly touches the ball?From what I seen, we lose possession like peanuts.I'm not saying that he was impressing because all he did were few good touches and good ball control.That's it... but he is hardly there to take the blame either.

Glenny's slipped actually almost cause us a goal.Krygiakos again, with his bad positioning and gets the tick off from Carra.Carra isn't any better to be honest.Agger wasn't that impressive at all on left. sweat.gif


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Yeap.We are TERRIBLE in away games. We have YET to win any away matches in year 2010.Can you believe that? sweat.gif
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Well, in a way, ngog hardly made any decent runs or space for teammates to pick him, although I don't blame him much for that. No one can expect a player of ngog's calibre to think and play like torresm

But overall, the entire team should share the blame in the defeat. Kuyt could've played his socks off but it's useless when his poor touches causes oppoturnities to slip away. Everytime benny gets the ball he slows down and allows oppositions to regroup. Lucas was wandering aimlessly, and masch was ineffective with the ball. Gerrard saw a lot of the ball, but let's face it, he's no longer the stevie g who makes 60-yards passes and surging runs into the box with a powershot.

Defence-wise, it's shaky throughout but that has been the story all season.
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Perhaps I watch Torres too much I forgot who's Ngog is.. Yeah, can't expect too much from that kid.. Perhaps he tried his best already..

Perhaps they didn't get enough sleep on the train.. I was just too pissed off watching the game and might be too harsh on Ngog.. I expect better show at Anfield..

I don't really mind if we're losing despite playing very well, but tonight we're just poor and I was so sad..
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Lucas-Masch pair is the worst pair in liverpool history.. i shuld tell to my grandchild if dey r liverpool fan

elzhar for last 6min left is the worst joke i have to faced,,,

our side player is the worst compare to other top5..
kuyt - no ability
benny - slow
babel - cant read the game
riera - KO
elzhar - hahaha
maxi - losin magic


dunnoe wat to say..
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unfair that ATM will fly to Merseyside next week instead of taking road trip..
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after watchin this game, leftback is a must next season...Agger is good but he's juz OK at leftback...that simao chance nearly cost us 2nd goal sweat.gif






all in all we should be thankful it only a solitary goal after a dismal performance..if not for reina, it could've been a bigger margin shakehead.gif

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not unexpected result. not trying to blame anyone but it was quite a momentous task. granted they (AM) were no inter, we were rarther looking forward to a 'holiday break ' given the circumstances.

we might win at anfield but could go out on away goal.

back home, we didnt & havent 'lose' 4th spot but its too much to ask the real contenders (spurs & MC) to drop massive points.

this season is a bloody massive set back, I have but only ONE fa8king rant .....

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ngog jus not qualified at our 1st 11. He cant read the game from gerrard, benny and kuyt. Maybe torres cause a huge impact for me for striker position. as usual the lucas and masherano partner.


Added on April 23, 2010, 8:02 amngog jus not qualified at our 1st 11. He cant read the game from gerrard, benny and kuyt. Maybe torres cause a huge impact for me for striker position. as usual the lucas and masherano partner.

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sounds like the travelling has cost us dearly. stupid uefa. both teams should just play the game online XD
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1-0, to be honest is not a bad result, neither it is a good one. It was an okay away performance considering it was 2 days after West Ham (Why the hell was it being played on a Monday night anyway? shakehead.gif ) and hours of travelling.

If you ask me, Atletico was pretty sloppy at times and considering it's a home game with a brilliant atmosphere, they had only 4 genuine chances throughout the game. They will need to do a lot better at Anfield to stop us. Not that I'm taking things for granted, because we were indeed sloppy and Aguero will be back. But I'm confident we have a good chance of making to the finals.

If there was any positive from last night's game, it's Pepe Reina. Player of the season. flex.gif

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sounds like the travelling has cost us dearly. stupid uefa. both teams should just play the game online XD
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Kyrgiakos fall down to get the ball or juz fall down?
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2DM (Mascherano + Lucas) + 1 striker is not going to work in away games.

Repeated repeated posted........

Tired on criticising on this issue.

Win 4 away matches for the entire season since start of season already speak out.

After trailing, and Liv needs to search for an away goal, still no place for Aqualani.

Fulham looks got better chance of winning Europa cup.


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Well, so are we. Can't complain much about the scoreline, their keeper can walk to the cafe and have a cup of coffee during the game and still not concede. Not a single save to make.
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Their keeper can slwoly enjoy the coffee for the entire match, because shot on target is zero from Liv. laugh.gif doh.gif

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Both teams were rubbish. Forlan's goal was a comedy finish after comedy defending from Kyrgiakos.
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Well, Ath Madrid didn't look any better either.For the second half, they looks like deploying time-wasting tactics and although they do attack, they spent most of their time on field, rolling on the pitch.Didn't expect a home side to play this kind of football in front of their supporters.Every 2-3 minutes, there is one player lying on floor, holding his leg or ankle.
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ath madrid was poor, but our display made them look a little better. countless stray passes that went straight to ath players or out of play, that has been the situation all season.

come to think of it, had carra been a little bit more composed he could've hooked the ball away before it passes the goal line, instead of hurling himself onto the ball via overhead kick sytle and made no contact. it's just poor defending overall, not just soto.

of all the travelling teams in european competitions this week, only fulham came away with a credible result as they held hamburg to a 0-0 draw. barca and lyon both lost as well, and if anyone asks me now i believe losing 1-0 only isn't all that bad. in fact, the worry now goes to the long journey back and the match against burnley on sunday. players will have little time to rest, let alone train, and against another relegation-threatened team, we're bound to have to grind out another result.

let's just be glad that we only lost by a narrow margin after a bad showing, and hope that we turn the tide (again) in the return leg.
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i'm sure plenty of us have told me that N'gog is just a backup striker and has scored plenty of goals already.. but even after watching all his goals again, i still think he's not good enaf to be our backup striker let alone to play in Torres role... better play with barros, sinama, cisse, bellamy or voronin.
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Apr 23 2010, 12:02 PM)
i'm sure plenty of us have told me that N'gog is just a backup striker and has scored plenty of goals already.. but even after watching all his goals again, i still think he's not good enaf to be our backup striker let alone to play in Torres role... better play with barros, sinama, cisse, bellamy or voronin.
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Ngog scored 7-8 goals this season from a couple of start and lot of substitute. I would say, about average.

You can't expect him to do "Torres" to create something out of nothing, or score goal out of nowhere. As Rafa always play lone strike upfront, and most match especially away match with 2 DM + lone striker, so upfront can have little support.

When upfron has little support and creative passes from midfielder, no striker can flourish, except some brilliant and magic moment through some special player like Torres.

I don't think it is fair to criticise the striker (like Ngog in last night match), when midfielders can't string a few passes around, not to mention threatening opponent with some forwards, creative passes.

His shooting skill and accuracy might need more improvement, if want to be estalished striker. But a lot of occassion, especially seeing those misses by him, just highlight at least he knows how to get into the position to score.

Again if the team plays poorly, everyone should be blamed including managers, it is not right to find spacegoat from one or two. Playing lone striker and with little support and able to perform well is not something a lot striker can do one. Even Torres sometimes looks poor, and always being kicked around.

It could be tactic fault, manager fault as well.

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all day long we trying 2 clear long balls, lol

so defensive for what.. =.=
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Hmm, is it me or UEFA's feed sucks. Barely can hear the sound and fans singing. The commentator said the stadium was lively with people singing and all, i saw people jumping around with others but it sounded like the stadium was deserted. Europa and CL btw.

Weak placement of mics perhaps?
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 23 2010, 03:11 PM)
is aquaman cup tied??
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Nope is on the bench list.

Gerrard were poor as normal. Giving the ball away and doesnt seems to be interested if the ball is not with any of our player.

Babel - came in but didnt make a lot of difference. Well except for the through pass to Kuyt where Kuyt touch were too strong.

Overall we were poor but I guess traveling from Liverpool to Spain must have been exhausted most of our player.

The worst performance have to go to the commentator. Cant believe he is saying Kyrgiakos on the right crossing when he is still in the middle of the field rclxub.gif

As for Benayoun goal, I thought is a valid goal but didnt watch the replay but I guess it should be offside as no one bother to complain to the ref.
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Kyrgiakos fall down to get the ball or juz fall down?
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just watch it, i think he fall down ... unless he plan to do diving header which the timing is totally wrong ...
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Atletico Madrid Hero Diego Forlan Wary of Second-Leg Trip To Anfield
The Uruguayan international striker is aware of the impending 90 minutes at Anfield next week.

Atletico Madrid will take a one-goal advantage to Anfield next Thursday thanks to a 1-0 win over Liverpool at the Vicente Calderon earlier this evening. Diego Forlan’s goal in the eighth minute was enough for los Colchoneros to keep their Europa League aspirations alive.

Speaking after the match, the former Manchester United striker expressed his delight at having scored what eventually turned out to be the winner but warned his team-mates against any complacency.

"We got a good result, but there are still 90 minutes to play and it will be tough, Liverpool are a strong team," he is quoted as saying by AS.

"Luckily I got the goal. It was a shame for the second opportunity that Pepe [Reina] anticipated and came out."

Moreover, the 30-year-old dismissed any suggestions that he and his team-mates were already thinking of the final in Hamburg next month when he told Telecinco TV after the match, "No, no. It's complicated. We got still 90 minutes ahead of us and they are a strong team that plays well at Anfield. It will be tough.

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QUOTE(aiyish @ Apr 23 2010, 11:13 AM)
I dun get what is the phone on the pitch, missed last nite game.
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Once upon a time...There's one player called Forlan, found a cellphone on the pitch.Shown to referee and asked him what to do with it.Referee don't give a damn...Then, Forlan, threw the phone out of the pitch.... laugh.gif His expression was funny. biggrin.gif
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2 goals without nando next week is really a pain job
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 23 2010, 03:11 PM)
is aquaman cup tied??
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aquaman is BENCH TIED.... cry.gif
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aquaman is BENCH TIED....  cry.gif
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who tied him?  rolleyes.gif
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the stupid manager

pacheco and aqua should be introduced fr the 70th mins onwards

lucas and benny should hav been taken out

btw, pacheco will wear Stanchart No10 next season???
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Liverpool tempted by move for Real Madrid's Rafael van der Vaart

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/ap...r-vaart-benitez
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We should bring Van Der Vart during Alonso transfer..as part of the deal..
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QUOTE(digilife @ Apr 24 2010, 08:53 AM)
the stupid manager

pacheco and aqua should be introduced fr the 70th mins onwards

lucas and benny should hav been taken out

btw, pacheco will wear Stanchart No10 next season???
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are u sure he wear no10??

at least a sos??? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dfadzli @ Apr 24 2010, 11:49 AM)
We should bring Van Der Vart during Alonso transfer..as part of the deal..
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500% agreed. or if not VDV, maybe we can get Sneijder or Robben at that time...
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if part deal, i highly doubt we'll sold alonso for cool 30m. more like 12-15m + VDV
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 24 2010, 03:03 PM)
are u sure he wear no10??

at least a sos???  laugh.gif
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if we dun hav a reliable No;10 we wont win BPL Cup No:19

Luis Gracia ( the last No10 b4 Voronin ) was good and we won CL No;5 thumbup.gif
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feel so sad....on liverpool...

why the heck they sold warnock!

why they sold guthrie

why they sold the centre back whom called the next carra....


i don't understand...


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my suggestion...

go for belhadj for bargain price after pompey relegate since ppl here wan a new lb

go for noble/parker for cheap since our midfield still weak site

go for carew/raul or other aged experienced striker for backup torres

other money...

go for expensive wide player


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Guys, though I'm a Liverpool fan, but I wanna see our team lost to Chelsea so that MU won't beat Liverpool's 18 times league champions.
What are your thoughts?
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we have been a successful club in England since 1892 ....we win 18th title in Football League in England....if MU get the 19th, it was their effort to get that title....congrats to them....we should worry about our club...the tradition of our club winning the title..it seems gone since when? 20 years already...in 20 years, we still looking a formula, solution how to be a champion, ...

for me, there is two sides of me, dignity or rational...win over Chelsea means we let our rival win the 19th (rational), lose to Chelsea because we dont want MU win the 19th (dignity)...

there's always have a reason whether we lose or win against Chelsea ...
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QUOTE(normeck @ Apr 25 2010, 10:31 AM)
we have been a successful club in England since 1892 ....we win 18th title in Football League in England....if MU get the 19th, it was their effort to get that title....congrats to them....we should worry about our club...the tradition of our club winning the title..it seems gone since when? 20 years already...in 20 years, we still looking a formula, solution how to be a champion, ...

for me, there is two sides of me, dignity or rational...win over Chelsea means we let our rival win the 19th (rational), lose to Chelsea because we dont want MU win the 19th (dignity)...

there's always have a reason whether we lose or win against Chelsea ...
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Exactly.
But Liverpool vs Chelsea is just a battle and retaining the 18 times league champions from MU is the war.

If we won the battle, we may lose the war..
We have to sacrifice a small battle to win the big war.
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Guys, though I'm a Liverpool fan, but I wanna see our team lost to Chelsea so that MU won't beat Liverpool's 18 times league champions.
What are your thoughts?
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for me i rather let MU win as this will be a motivation for Liverpool to chase back... the 4th spot still possible to grab why should we give up?
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 25 2010, 03:21 AM)
my suggestion...

go for belhadj for bargain price after pompey relegate since ppl here wan a new lb

go for noble/parker for cheap since our midfield still weak site

go for carew/raul or other aged experienced striker for backup torres

other money...

go for expensive wide player
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Raul? euwww.. it's sounds old dude.. raul???? euwwwwieeee..
Carew? euwwww.. another crouch againnnnnn???

better go for nemeth.. young blood instead of old man who waiting to hang up their boot...
hopefully nemeth will come back for us.. he is our secret weapon.. there's a reason rafa loan out him this season, to gain experience and he got that!
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QUOTE(zickey @ Apr 25 2010, 11:07 AM)
for me i rather let MU win as this will be a motivation for Liverpool to chase back... the 4th spot still possible to grab why should we give up?
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for me, i rather we lose title to chelsea than Manyur.. becos we can't afford to see manyur get their 19th and left us behind.. manyur is our bitter rival, to let them break our record is totally a heartpain...

it's ok we not qualified for the next UCL becos we deserved it as our form was so poor n inconsistent this season..
so then by next season we should start all over again n try our best to get the title..
20years is ok for me for not winning EPL title, n dun forget our carlsberg sponsorship is also over..
welcome to stan chartered..

2010-2011 will be our season.. that's for sure... i believe in fate...



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Guys, though I'm a Liverpool fan, but I wanna see our team lost to Chelsea so that MU won't beat Liverpool's 18 times league champions.
What are your thoughts?
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yes, i buy tat

dun worry, without Torres, we wont win all our remaining games if Rafa play those 2 clowns ie, Ngok and Lucy laugh.gif laugh.gif

but if Pacheco, Nabil and Aqua play, we might juz win tat game..........
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Report: Chelsea Will Not Pursue Liverpool Star Fernando Torres
Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti has reportedly distanced the club from the race to sign Liverpool striker Fernando Torres despite recent reports of interest from the Blues.

Speaking a press conference, Ancelotti insisted the club will focus on promoting five players from the youth sector while attempting to trim the squad at Stamford Bridge.

The Sun suggested that older players such as Michael Ballack and Deco will not receive a new deal from Chelsea regardless of whether the Blues win the Premier League and the FA Cup.

The former Milan coach hinted Chelsea are unlikely to sign Torres because the club already have Didier Drogba and Nicolas Anelka. Ancelotti praised the Spaniard but effectively ruled out making a move to sign him with recent reports linking the side with Milan striker Alexandre Pato.

According to earlier reports, Chelsea will offer £43 million to sign the young Brazilian, who is currently sidelined by injury.

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If Liverpool beat Burnley today.... Burnley are relegated...

don't do that please... be mercy.. sad.gif sad.gif
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it's not our prob if burnley are relegated. we have our own agenda as well...

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it's not our prob if burnley are relegated. we have our own agenda as well...
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I want Burnley to stay up.... like their jersey... laugh.gif

If Liverpool beat them today and they go down... then i won't be able to see their jersey for long long time... sad.gif
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I want Burnley to stay up.... like their jersey... laugh.gif

If Liverpool beat them today and they go down... then i won't be able to see their jersey for long long time... sad.gif
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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Apr 25 2010, 12:22 PM)
Raul? euwww.. it's sounds old dude.. raul???? euwwwwieeee..
Carew? euwwww.. another crouch againnnnnn???

better go for nemeth.. young blood instead of old man who waiting to hang up their boot...
hopefully nemeth will come back for us.. he is our secret weapon.. there's a reason rafa loan out him this season, to gain experience and he got that!
notworthy.gif  Nemeth  notworthy.gif
yeah i like nemeth to be the strike force next season but i'll doubt he will feature next season if rafa still our manager
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if we getting an experience striker, better get back fowler.. i heard hes looking for a club.. doh.gif
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did i miss somethin? or just rumor? more interested on changing the owner part sad.gif
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Ayala and Aqua in!!!

The Reds team v Burnley: Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Ayala, Agger, Mascherano, Aquilani, Maxi, Babel, Gerrard, Kuyt. Subs: Cavalieri, Benayoun, Kyrgiakos, Lucas, Degen, El Zhar, Pacheco.
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i feel confident in this line up!
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http://lfcglobe.com/stream-links-burnley-vs-liverpool-a/

Finally Ayala!

No Insua. lulz
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hmm.. chinese owner to buy Liverpool.. Liverpool's defence and Anfield(our fortress) will soon be known as Great Wall of China..

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This was published on The Sun one or 2 weeks ago.
The Chinese businessman would like to buy Liverpool with the condition Rafa stays.
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would love to see the progress of that deal..

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Guys, though I'm a Liverpool fan, but I wanna see our team lost to Chelsea so that MU won't beat Liverpool's 18 times league champions.
What are your thoughts?
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No way. I want to see Liverpool beat Chelsea.
If Chelsea want 3 points, come get it.
"18 league champions" is a grand-mother story that happened 20 years ago. I don't care.
If ManU win the league title again, meaning Chelsea is not good enough. Let it be.

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No way. I want to see Liverpool beat Chelsea.
If Chelsea want 3 points, come get it.
"18 league champions" is a grand-mother story that happened 20 years ago. I don't care.
If ManU win the league title again, meaning Chelsea is not good enough. Let it be.
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if we couldn't qualify to ucl next season, meaning we are not gud enough, then let it be..
it's not about grandmama story or what so-ever, but it's about dignity..
we can afford to loose our title record to our bitter rival, that's it.
if manyur win this season, then it will be the real pain for us, trust me...
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Wah, Gerrard has gone from bad to poor man ..

I think he's affected by everything but really, he should do better as captain. He seems to be the weaklink so far in this game.
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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Apr 25 2010, 10:22 PM)
if we couldn't qualify to ucl next season, meaning we are not gud enough, then let it be..
it's not about grandmama story or what so-ever, but it's about dignity..
we can afford to loose our title record to our bitter rival, that's it.
if manyur win this season, then it will be the real pain for us, trust me...
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Talking about dignity brings the club nowhere.I would rather we lose the so called dignity with our club keep improving and moving forward.. Nottingham Forrest won UCL twice...On UCL record, they are even better than Arsenal.If they keep dreaming about this record and that record,they are getting nowhere cos on paper, are they even better than Arsenal?Record is one thing, reality reflects another.Reality reflects that we are the weakest top 4 side now and we are out of top 4 this season. That's reality.No use talking about record, dignity if we are fighting for no7....

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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Apr 25 2010, 10:22 PM)
if we couldn't qualify to ucl next season, meaning we are not gud enough, then let it be..
it's not about grandmama story or what so-ever, but it's about dignity..
we can afford to loose our title record to our bitter rival, that's it.
if manyur win this season, then it will be the real pain for us, trust me...
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We can't qualify and seal the 4th spot because we're not good enough. In overall, the squad and management have been poor this season.
If Man Utd wins this season and claims their 19th, we should congratulate them for their success. They have clearly been a better team and what we can at least do to save our dignity is to play our heart out against Chelsea and not to lose to them so that Man Utd will never beat our record.
They can't overtake us this season, they still have another season and more to come. We should improve, not rely on other's failure.
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Talking about dignity, Burnley is obviously more desperate to survive in the PL than Liverpool is to finish the season with dignity ..

We started 'well' only because Burnley started nervously. Overall, we look off-colour ... again
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Bored game to be honest.Pity those who paid to watch the game.
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post Apr 25 2010, 10:55 PM

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We can't even penetrate the defense of a lowly-rated team in the league. Dignity? Well, it looks like we pretty much succumb to the truth that we don't deserve to be in the top four. It's good to be underdogs at times lol. tongue.gif
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hahaha...seems like we are playing without a target man. There's a lot of ball been deliver into the penalty box but there is no one to receive it. I really miss Ngog in this game.
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we lacked of penetration..cme on redmen!!
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so still 0-0?
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0-1 stevie G!!
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goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! captain marvel yet again!!
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post Apr 25 2010, 11:20 PM

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Gerrard again!
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lol did i heard BURN LIVERPOOL instead of burnley?
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MAXI 1st goal. aquilani 2nd assists. LOL
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maxi 1st foal for liverpool!!!!
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maxi broke his duck
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post Apr 25 2010, 11:36 PM

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MAXIIII!!!!
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post Apr 25 2010, 11:38 PM

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ouchhhh dun la injured my aqualani.... aiyoooo
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did Aquilani just assisted on all 3 goals....
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aiyak.. seems im missing a good game here...
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QUOTE(azam_halim @ Apr 25 2010, 11:39 PM)
did Aquilani just assisted on all 3 goals....
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when did we buy this player Aquilani?
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rafa made everyone can play more than 1 position. LOL
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whats the score now? hoho..
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gerrard 2, maxi 1, burnley 0
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should be gerrard 2, maxi 1, babel 1, burnley 0
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Should be Aquilani 3 Burnley 0 biggrin.gif


Added on April 25, 2010, 11:55 pmBABELLLLL!!

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i think rafa should be given 1 last chance to manage lfc next season..


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Should be Aquilani 3 Burnley 0  biggrin.gif


Added on April 25, 2010, 11:55 pmBABELLLLL!!
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anywhere i can watch the highlights? hoho.. missed all of it...
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hehehe..but assuming we win all the balance match..total point 68!! tats was like 4 years ago punyer achievement doh.gif
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those burnley fanz was pure class!!!...i really doubt some of our fanz will react the same after what they goin thru this season...better luck next time burnley...nice playin with ya! biggrin.gif

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Burnley relegated makes me a sad panda

Aqua and Lucas on assists? lolz0rs

Babel is still messing up clear chances even when guarantied starting place. Lucky goal was lucky.

I am disappoint.
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hat-trick of assists fro aqua!
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Good win. Next, Chelsea. Come on lads smile.gif


Added on April 26, 2010, 12:17 amAnd I'm hellllllllaaaaaa pleased with Aquilani's performance. Skill, speed, good passing, ran at defenders, and helped us at the back. Now we're talking about the quality player we were all talking about when he first came smile.gif

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QUOTE(Playboy21 @ Apr 26 2010, 12:16 AM)
Good win. Next, Chelsea. Come on lads smile.gif


Added on April 26, 2010, 12:17 amAnd I'm hellllllllaaaaaa pleased with Aquilani's performance. Skill, speed, good passing, ran at defenders, and helped us at the back. Now we're talking about the quality player we were all talking about when he first came smile.gif
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gerrard is superb... wonder why ppl hate him tis season
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aqua was just normal for me he did couple of mistakes in passing, i tot ayala did well for a 19 year old in a hostile environment playing a team doomed for relegation and fighting for every ball. expect lucas back in the middle come this thursday. and no one talk about kuyt ? if he's out for the madrid game..i dont know how else are we gonna play against atd madrid. better performance from gerrard esp in 2nd half..slowly getting back to his best again smile.gif
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i still doubt ayala is a talent.. he's too average today.. quite unfair to judge like tis but he shuld try be the best given tis kind of oppurtinity.. nver crossed on my mind he in startin 11 today
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Wow this match is really nice ! Disappointed when its 0-0 at 1st half. But that 1st goal from Gerrard did motivate Liverpool to attack more. Especially Aquilani, great assists ! Finally I can talk about Liverpool in front of my MU and Chelsea supporter friends xD They keep cursing and hope that Liverpool will be relegated.
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QUOTE(xMika @ Apr 26 2010, 12:39 AM)
Wow this match is really nice ! Disappointed when its 0-0 at 1st half. But that 1st goal from Gerrard did motivate Liverpool to attack more. Especially Aquilani, great assists ! Finally I can talk about Liverpool in front of my MU and Chelsea supporter friends xD  They keep cursing and hope that Liverpool will be relegated.
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QUOTE(xMika @ Apr 26 2010, 12:39 AM)
Wow this match is really nice ! Disappointed when its 0-0 at 1st half. But that 1st goal from Gerrard did motivate Liverpool to attack more. Especially Aquilani, great assists ! Finally I can talk about Liverpool in front of my MU and Chelsea supporter friends xD  They keep cursing and hope that Liverpool will be relegated.
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2) We're still in Europe, and none of them are.
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gerrard is superb... wonder why ppl hate him tis season
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heh.. usual stuff. Yeap, his performance hasn't been that good this season, but not to the extent of poor. If Gerrard's form is poor, then what about Ngog? Its just the frustration. We all need someone to blame, that's why. tongue.gif

Madrid... come on. We're ready for ya!

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1 lucky asst from Aquilani.. slipped down le.. but placed the ball so nicely that allow Gerrard to perform his trademark long shooting.. anyway.. Maxi impressed me better than Aquilani.. and.. Kuyt.. really stg wrong with him.. he cant play well as the sole frontman..
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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Apr 25 2010, 10:22 PM)
if we couldn't qualify to ucl next season, meaning we are not gud enough, then let it be..
it's not about grandmama story or what so-ever, but it's about dignity..
we can afford to loose our title record to our bitter rival, that's it.
if manyur win this season, then it will be the real pain for us, trust me...
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If it's dignity, it's 20 years old dignity.
We are not up to that NOW.
If Chelsea drop points, Man U win the entire matches and win the league title - Man U deserve it.

Why real pain to us? Don't take it personal.
It's a sport. If ManU win, they win it with combination of consistent run of good results and luck.
They deserve it.


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Because he played like crap.

No worries, he's not the most hated one.
Rafa first, next Lucas, next Kuyt, next Babel... Gerrard probably the last to blame.

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If Rafa want to buy a striker or winger, better find someone who able to keep up with Aqua 1-touch. Last night game showed that only Gerrard able to read and keep up with Aqua 1-2 and 1 touch ball and maybe Babel. But for Kuyt and and Maxi, they certainly struggle to keep up with the passes. Really great performance from the Italian, and I'm wondering how it would turn out if Aqua play for Arsenal or Barca. hmm.gif
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anyone not mention Benni...
4 goal after kuyt out...

anyway,
1st half Liverpool play like tuttttttttttt.....
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QUOTE(de_sengal @ Apr 26 2010, 07:43 AM)
If Rafa want to buy a striker or winger, better find someone who able to keep up with Aqua 1-touch. Last night game showed that only Gerrard able to read and keep up with Aqua 1-2 and 1 touch ball and maybe Babel. But for Kuyt and and Maxi, they certainly struggle to keep up with the passes. Really great performance from the Italian, and I'm wondering how it would turn out if Aqua play for Arsenal or Barca.  hmm.gif
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i want to watch the highlights!!!
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Here

http://football-highlight.com/en/england/p...-liverpool.html
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QUOTE(leftist @ Apr 26 2010, 09:14 AM)
i on the other hand tot maxi is great playing a quick 1 touch futbol nod.gif
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he can play 1 touch but from what I can see,he don't have the pace to keep up with the ball from Aqua. You can see most of the passes from Aqua are really in fast. I hope we can get a natural winger who got the speed and acceleration like Babel and Torres. icon_rolleyes.gif

Many wouldn't agree with me on this but I really miss Insua. It seems that a few past matches without him, we are lacking of crosses and overlapping from the left side. sad.gif

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£3m Charlton starlet Jonjo Shelvey to reject Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs for Liverpool

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Liverpool are ready to pip Chelsea, Tottenham and Arsenal to the signing of Charlton teenager Jonjo Shelvey.

The 18-year-old, who made his first team debut aged 16 years and 59 days, is one of the best young players in the country and already has over 40 appearances under his belt.

He can play as a winger, attacking midfielder or second striker and Liverpool hope to tie up a £3million deal as soon as the season finishes.
Charlton starlet: Jonjo Shelvey has been linked with Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea

Charlton starlet: Shelvey (right) has been linked with Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea

They are keen to bring in more English players during the summer and have also rekindled their interest in Manchester United youngster John Cofie who they tried to sign from Burnley two years ago.

But Shelvey will prove a real coup for the Anfield club as he has been coveted by London's big clubs for some time and follows their signing of Raheem Sterling from QPR in January.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz0m9jjEFTu



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I believe this weekend, the whole world of man utd fans will support liverpool kao kao!!! They will become part time Liverpool fans!!!
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I don't think ManU fans will express much on showing the hope for Liverpool win over chelsea. If Liverpool win, they will just say, "Great Chelsea lose" instead of "Thank you Liverpool".

Liverpool just need a solid defender, that's all, perhaps a better backup striker for Torres.
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is Kuyt injured? i read in one review, saying he's out for injury?
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QUOTE(herman79 @ Apr 26 2010, 10:44 AM)
I don't think ManU fans will express much on showing the hope for Liverpool win over chelsea. If Liverpool win, they will just say, "Great Chelsea lose" instead of "Thank you Liverpool".

Liverpool just need a solid defender, that's all, perhaps a better backup striker for Torres.
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Some of the Aqualani pass really quality but u can see some of his "lazy" passes also, and also he didn't track back well after losing the ball.

Let's MU get their 19, while Liv get the 4th spot!!
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Hey any of you know any website that can watch higlights for the match and is able to bypass company's internet security? as I'm in offcie now and cuuldn;t see any videos due to teh stupid security. all also "access denied".. kns
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No matter what Liverpool will still a laughing stock for MU whether it's 4th place or 5th place. Just do whatever you guys can. Altho Im at the least liking for MU to lift their undeserved title for years in a row, but im very supportive to fair play.
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QUOTE(herman79 @ Apr 26 2010, 10:44 AM)
I don't think ManU fans will express much on showing the hope for Liverpool win over chelsea. If Liverpool win, they will just say, "Great Chelsea lose" instead of "Thank you Liverpool".

Liverpool just need a solid defender, that's all, perhaps a better backup striker for Torres.
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I'm sure everyone of MU fans will say a big thank you if you guys manage to do that biggrin.gif

Anyway just hope liverpool play their best like what I saw a respectful fans said in another forum..

If LFC gives all out but still lose the match - you only lose the record to us, which can still be reclaimed by you
If LFC purposely plays a understrength team and lose - you lose your pride and history, which can never be erased.

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Apr 26 2010, 12:44 PM)
I'm sure everyone of MU fans will say a big thank you if you guys manage to do that  biggrin.gif

Anyway just hope liverpool play their best like what I saw a respectful fans said in another forum..

If LFC gives all out but still lose the match - you only lose the record to us, which can still be reclaimed by you
If LFC purposely plays a understrength team and lose - you lose your pride and history, which can never be erased.

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Does it matter if mancs do not express thanks? Would you if the situations were reversed? The cuts run deep and I wouldn't expect any manc to publically say, "thank you" without any sarcastic undertones. On short, it doesn't matter.

Good win last night although it could have been very different had Burnley converted their chances in the first half. Even though we controled the game, they had the better chances. Thankfully, Reina's handling was spot on. I see that Aquilani has been getting some accolades but I personally thought he had a decent game, nothing more. It's what you would expect given his price tag. Ayala is still really raw and his first touched leaves a lot to be desired. If he is indeed our most improved reserve player, it isn't a wonder we don't see more of them breaking through. Once again, Gerrard had a good game when he was deployed on midfield, but that's hardly a surprise anymore is it?

In short, I think we were decent and the scoreline was a flattering one. Next up, Chelsea. See some of you on Sunday then.
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ill have to agree on that.. no matter how much i hate to see man u take the title, i would have to say "Come Chelsea! we will give u hell!!"


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whoever win the EPL, its because they deserve to win it. we should put our eyes for 4th spot, impossible yet it still can be achieve. we just should not care about other teams now...
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It's getting increasingly annoying that a bunch of Muppets keep swarming into the thread with all those insincere,repeating posts of supports, rooting or wish of luck.To be honest, we don't give a damn.It would be better if you guys can keep all these rubbish posts in your own thread.We want to continue our regular discussions.

As far as I'm concerned, only LOSERS have to rely on their fieriest rival to be champion.You don't become a champion with that kind of losers' mentality.The league is a run of 38 games.If the team is capable of winning and deserve to be a champion, they do not have to rely on their rival to win the game for them.Wishing your rival luck, hoping them to win matches?What the heck is that?What's the point of having rivalry then?Pointless.If you are hoping that Chelsea drop points, fair enough, but to wish us luck after calling us LiverFool, backing Rafa just after calling him Rafail Benifail,hoping Gerrard to score after labeling him starfish, that's something a prick does.We don't see that from someone we call Football supporter.

We will try to win the game.The team will try to...Not for the ManU..but For the sake's of our supporters who paid their hard-earned money to buy tickets just to watch an entertaining match at our home, Anfield.So, FFS, stop coming in and spam those rubbish posts again.

P/S: Not aimed on anyone in particular.Just a message preventing more muppets spamming unnecessary posts which bring nothing to discussion.

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for wat we want sign another youngster... we still got pacheco , nemeth , raheem not yet play.... stop wastin money rafa
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rafa real reason to sign youth

buy for $1million, train for 2-3 years...then sold it for $3million. earn extra $2million to fund his next round of players
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3m jonjo + 8m wilson = 11m

11m + 30m = silva..

train 2-3 seasons sell him for 60m..tat'll be the real money
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Next up, Chelsea. See some of you on Sunday then.
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 26 2010, 03:03 PM)
3m jonjo + 8m wilson = 11m

11m + 30m = silva..

train 2-3 seasons sell him for 60m..tat'll be the real money
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from where u got the story that rafa gonna buy wilson for 8m??..as far as i know,its only 3m...same price as jonjo nod.gif
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 26 2010, 03:07 PM)
Where at? I need to pick up those tees.
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I believe this weekend, the whole world of man utd fans will support liverpool kao kao!!! They will become part time Liverpool fans!!!
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Don't think liverpool helping man utd in the game...they only helping themselve for winning the pride...
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Apr 26 2010, 02:52 PM)
rafa real reason to sign youth

buy for $1million, train for 2-3 years...then sold it for $3million. earn extra $2million to fund his next round of players
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I don't think this is the situation right now, and franly speaking only a few players are sold at a gain.
Majority are either free-transfer, or being sold a cut price.


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is Kuyt injured? i read in one review, saying he's out for injury?
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Give Chelsea the title, not MANU the pain of seing them getting their 19th is too much to bear for years after. It can be another team title so long as the BPL trophy does not end at Old Trafford.
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If Liverpool can finished 4th, for me it was like striking a 1st prize lottery. It's too slim.

Let's hope things turn better with new owner, new jersey, new sponsor & hopefully have $$ to invest in great players after clearing out the debts and the (ever-delay) new stadium plan.
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Apr 26 2010, 01:12 PM)
big thank you? if MU fans manage to mind their own business and dont keep coming to liverpool thread to troll, thats good enough. we dont need your thank you, we only do what we believe is right.
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I believe this weekend, the whole world of man utd fans will support liverpool kao kao!!! They will become part time Liverpool fans!!!
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QUOTE(MattJ @ Apr 26 2010, 05:50 PM)
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Give Chelsea the title, not MANU the pain of seing them getting their 19th is too much to bear for years after. It can be another team title so long as the BPL trophy does not end at Old Trafford.
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If Liverpool cannot win 19th title, it is matter of time aka soon or later someone will get the 19th surpass Liv's record.

See where MU, start from, around 10 then reach 18th.
Give to Chelsea, then soon or later Chelsea will get 19th as well.

League title currently is either between Chelsea and MU, and occassionally Arsenal. There is no others team can mount serious challenge on the league title for the last 2 decade until now.
So it is matter of time someone will get 19th.
Liv needs to win the title to maintain the record. If not, then hoping whom to win or not the title, is meaningless.
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Hmm.how you define the best team? Most says that who wins the most doemstic league is the best team. So MU will be the best team? Nevertheles,,,i support any team who beats MU. So for this year, i support Chelsea to win. This weekend....half hearted lioaw
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QUOTE(leftist @ Apr 26 2010, 03:07 PM)
from where u got the story that rafa gonna buy wilson for 8m??..as far as i know,its only 3m...same price as jonjo nod.gif
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there's really a link about it but sadly i cant post the link since the connectivity is slow like shit now

here the link
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/04/22/li...ngers-defender/

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on our game wif CHELSEA, RAFA will field his second stringers and we shall lose 5 nil so tat chelsea will be champ laugh.gif

let the first 11 rest cause we will hav to prepare for the Europa final clash wif Fulham in Hamburg
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QUOTE(digilife @ Apr 26 2010, 08:52 PM)
on our game wif CHELSEA, RAFA will field his second stringers and we shall lose 5 nil so tat chelsea will be champ laugh.gif

let the first 11 rest cause we will hav to prepare for the Europa final clash wif Fulham in Hamburg
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If Ngog and Kyut don't recover from their injury in time, Liv has no recognised striker upfront for the coming A.Madrid match and Chelsea.
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babel ada.. he can cover up..
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babel ada.. he can cover up..
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is this mean aquaman can play this time??
my preffered lineup if kuyt not recovered..

-----------------reina----------------
--johnson--kyrgia--carra--agger--
---aqua--mach--lucas--benny---
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QUOTE(New_born @ Apr 27 2010, 02:06 AM)
is this mean aquaman can play this time??
my preffered lineup if kuyt not recovered..

-----------------reina----------------
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---aqua--mach--lucas--benny---
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why is aqua on the right lol??

i'd say

reina
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--maxi--masch-aqua---benny--
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didn't u see how good maxi's finish was against burnley?? he deserves a starting 11 at least

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bro maxi is cup tied lerr..
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stevieG will be the striker along wif pacheco for the Europa game

aqua and nabil should play

BUT please leave lucy OUT
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just a stroll on MU thread, and kinda funny to see so many of them getting butthurt. laugh.gif

a draw between us and chelsea will do both of us no good, so i expect chelsea to come attack us, leaving us more space to exploit. i hope babel will start, and please leave lucas and ngog on the bench until end of season
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------------- reina -------------

------ glen carra agger -------

--------- masch lucy ----------

-- benny stevie aqua babel --

---------- pacheco ------------


let's overload at.madrid with our attackers. this is anfield. we should gung ho...


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QUOTE(account_manager @ Apr 27 2010, 10:52 AM)
------------- reina -------------

------ glen carra agger -------

--------- masch lucy ----------

-- benny stevie aqua babel --

---------- pacheco ------------
let's overload at.madrid with our attackers. this is anfield. we should gung ho...
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since city is granted to loan an emergency keeper..why not we request for emergency striker? tongue.gif
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unrealistic dream  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(account_manager @ Apr 27 2010, 11:51 AM)
it is something new dude. we should go for it.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Clairvoyant @ Apr 27 2010, 02:55 AM)
bro maxi is cup tied lerr..
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i hope we'll win againts madrid, (tough it may be to overcome wime waster AM) but there is 90mins to bombard them at anfield.

against chelsea, i hope we still have the energy (if we win well against AMadrid) & WIN againts the blues.

if it does benefit others at chelseas fall be it. We need to show this season was a blip & we will be back. we will be a bigger force, the phoenix will rise & we will show others we are LIVERPOOL FC !!

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u noe rafa will not do tat  rolleyes.gif
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Yeap, I rate Babel higher than Ngog, in terms of pace, skill and finishing.
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QUOTE(RyanHo @ Apr 27 2010, 01:54 AM)
babel's football brain better than ngog as well. and his striker instinct.
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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Apr 27 2010, 02:32 AM)
why is aqua on the right lol??

i'd say

reina
johnson-- carra- greek-- agger
--maxi--masch-aqua---benny--
-----gerrard-------
-----babel------

didn't u see how good maxi's finish was against burnley?? he deserves a starting 11 at least
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QUOTE(account_manager @ Apr 27 2010, 10:52 AM)
------------- reina -------------

------ glen carra agger -------

--------- masch lucy ----------

-- benny stevie aqua babel --

---------- pacheco ------------
let's overload at.madrid with our attackers. this is anfield. we should gung ho...
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u actually letting an offensive fullback to take over centerback? LOL pacheco is still immature for this crucial match la.

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QUOTE(account_manager @ Apr 27 2010, 10:52 AM)
------------- reina -------------

------ glen carra agger -------

--------- masch lucy ----------

-- benny stevie aqua babel --

---------- pacheco ------------
let's overload at.madrid with our attackers. this is anfield. we should gung ho...
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woah, Glen will seriously be in deep crap if he plays there.
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Ian Rush has re-signed for Liverpool, with the Reds legend becoming the Club's new Soccer Schools Ambassador.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...igns-for-reds-1

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i hope rafa will use this link as a guide to find a world quality talent

http://www.fifafanatic.com/fifa-10-best-young-players/
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All west ham players are up for sale. Maybe we can get charlton cole at a bargain price as a benchwarmers. biggrin.gif
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All west ham players are up for sale. Maybe we can get charlton cole at a bargain price as a benchwarmers.  biggrin.gif
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try to count the benchwarmers we having now. our 20m still bench tied

and aston villa had made a bid of 10m for him. lol

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try to count the benchwarmers we having now. our 20m still bench tied

and aston villa had made a bid of 10m for him. lol
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woah, Glen will seriously be in deep crap if he plays there.
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--------- masch lucy -----------

--- glen stevie aqua benny ---

----------- babel ---------------


masch n lucy will drop deep for helping out the defence, whenever they control the ball, should look to pass to stevie or aqua. they both will play the ball wide and ensure both glen and benny to work the ball into the penalty box. babel as target-man. wwhooaaaaaaaaaa...
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whats with this losing to chelsea so can deny the manc the title stuff? seriously, liverpool need the win..
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QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Apr 27 2010, 10:25 PM)
Who will play first this week? Manyoo or Chelski? I'd rather lose to Chelski if that what it takes to deny manyoo their 19th..
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Perhaps I hate manyoo and their fans as much as I love Liverpool.. Honestly I don't think we're gonna get the fourth place.. Hoping Spurs and City will slip with two games remaining is just doesn't feel right..
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QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Apr 27 2010, 10:32 PM)
Perhaps I hate manyoo and their fans as much as I love Liverpool.. Honestly I don't think we're gonna get the fourth place.. Hoping Spurs and City will slip with two games remaining is just doesn't feel right..
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Got this compilation of some of the greatest games from another website, enjoy!

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well you can bet cit£h dropping ps wth them having no gk's.but spurs...well you can prey and hope they face a wobbly 2 games.
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Hope to see you there this Sunday then mate. A win for us will probably taste as bitter as a loss but in the end, we have to put pride aside and the well being of the club first.
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funny how some of you would want to play with 3 defenders when you have reyes and simao of the flanks in your opponent's team. they'll kill you off with pace. oh and talking about this sunday's match, whatever happens, i expect a team good enough to beat chelsea as we are playing in anfield, i dont see how manu winning the 19th title is worst than us losing in anfield and killing all hopes left for the 4th spot. its an evenly balanced double edged sword so just hope for the best for this 2 coming games.
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i'm not much of a liverpool fan but i definitely looking forward to all-english clash in hamburg
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I don't think we should purposely lose to Chelsea. We should try to win all the remaining games. Maybe it's not for 4th place since I also don't believe it is possible to achieve, but at least for our pride.

Got this compilation of some of the greatest games from another website, enjoy!

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Liverpool's Steven Gerrard Wants To Beat Chelsea Despite Possibility Of Manchester United Title
United are seeking a record 19th Premier League title.

By Anthony Sciarrino
Apr 26, 2010 7:37:00 PM

Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard is adamant that he wants to defeat Chelsea on Sunday despite the fact that a victory over the Blues would effectively give Manchester United the Premier League title.

Chelsea hold the top spot in the Premier League by one point over United with two games to play and many Anfield supporters do not want to see the Red Devils win their 19th title, which would eclipse the Reds 18 for the most in league history.

However, with Liverpool in a close race for the last Champions League spot, Gerrard insists that the team wants to beat Chelsea and attempt to make a miraculous comeback and finish in fourth place.

"We've got a couple of games left now and the idea is to take maximum points to see if we can get into fourth through the back door," Gerrard told The Mirror.

"If we take maximum points, who knows? The teams above us might slip up. All we have done is keep the pressure on those above us."

Despite the concern of Liverpool fans over United winning a fourth consecutive Premier League title, Gerrard insists that the Reds can only worry about themselves, and want to avoid fierce rivals Everton vaulting ahead of them in the standings.

"We are underdogs for fourth position, but our fans know that we have also got Everton breathing down our necks and we certainly don't want them finishing above us.”

Liverpool had not won an away game in the Premier League this year before a 4-0 victory over Burnley at Turf Moor on Sunday.

Gerrard scored twice in the victory, and the England international was encouraged with Liverpool’s performance, even if they are not able to get to fourth place.

"We won't give up, but it would be stupid of me to say this or that is going to happen. It's important to be realistic.

"We haven't been good enough away. When you can't score and you lose your top striker, it can damage belief and affect your confidence, but this was much better."


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it seem like liverpool are too confident in beating chelsea.. like they the one who can decide who gonna be the title champ..

dont just too overconfident liverpoolian... we the one of the luckiest team who got beaten by pompey.. remember that <.<
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well say gerrard ... this what you a great english player
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the first eleven is revised
------------- reina --------------

------ carra kyrgy agger -------

--------- masch lucy -----------

--- glen stevie aqua benny ---

----------- babel ---------------
masch n lucy will drop deep for helping out the defence, whenever they control the ball, should look to pass to stevie or aqua. they both will play the ball wide and ensure both glen and benny to work the ball into the penalty box. babel as target-man. wwhooaaaaaaaaaa...
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------------- reina --------------

------ glen carra kyrgy agger -------

--------- masch lucy -----------

--- stevie aqua benny ---

----------- babel ---------------



i tot u confuse us. your lineup effectively looks like this tongue.gif

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"Shelvey travelled to Merseyside on Tuesday and has already undergone a medical, with the Merseysiders set to pay an initial £1.7m fee.

The result of Shelvey's medical at Anfield will be revealed on Wednesday. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...tic/8647872.stm


welcome jonjo!! rclxms.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Petre @ Apr 28 2010, 03:59 PM)

------------- reina --------------

------ glen carra kyrgy agger -------

--------- masch lucy -----------

---  stevie aqua benny ---

----------- babel ---------------



i tot u confuse us. your lineup effectively looks like this  tongue.gif
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i see news reporting liverpool is signing jonjo shevley. is he good?
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according to wiki, he's good..
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Hey guys! i just received my order this morning from the liverpool store. I'm STOKED!

The jersey is absolutely amazing. Definitely looks better real life than in pictures rclxms.gif

Lets hope the change of sponsor breathes new life to LFC. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Imdarren @ Apr 28 2010, 07:30 PM)
Hey guys! i just received my order this morning from the liverpool store. I'm STOKED!

The jersey is absolutely amazing. Definitely looks better real life than in pictures  rclxms.gif

Lets hope the change of sponsor breathes new life to LFC.  smile.gif 

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QUOTE(Imdarren @ Apr 28 2010, 08:30 PM)
Hey guys! i just received my order this morning from the liverpool store. I'm STOKED!

The jersey is absolutely amazing. Definitely looks better real life than in pictures  rclxms.gif

Lets hope the change of sponsor breathes new life to LFC.  smile.gif 

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The shirt is one thing.

What's the LFC pouch there? Does it come along with the jersey too?
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the shirt is inside that pouch kot.. whatever it is, very nice!
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Omg. Do u mind to teach me for the purchasing? wad size u wearing btw? And how long u took to receive the jersey? How much?

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The pouch and a towel is part of the pre-ordering promotion. So, i'm not sure if it'll come with the jersey.
I bought size M which fits me perfectly but he sleeves are a tad bit long though. The badge looks to be glued on which is a little worrying.
However, the overall quality of the jersey is really really good. Pictures doesn't do the jersey justice!


My dad works for SCB so i had 25% off and free shipping by DHL which is a steal! smile.gif

Here's the pouch and the towel:
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Awesome shirt. Lucky you one of the earliest to wear it.

Wear it proud biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Imdarren @ Apr 28 2010, 08:32 PM)
The pouch and a towel is part of the pre-ordering promotion. So, i'm not sure if it'll come with the jersey.
I bought size M which fits me perfectly but he sleeves are a tad bit long though. The badge looks to be glued on which is a little worrying.
However, the overall quality of the jersey is really really good. Pictures doesn't do the jersey justice!
My dad works for SCB so i had 25% off and free shipping by DHL which is a steal!  smile.gif

Here's the pouch and the towel:
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nice jersey smile.gif

Welcome to the world of jersey collecting! (or maybe juz owning it tongue.gif) plan to put any players on it? Feel free to discuss this with the members in the LN Jersey Talk icon_rolleyes.gif

yeap the club crest is glued, just like the new Adidas Russia's kit. but i think it's pretty strong, if it's the same as the russia one, you can see the glue marks from inside the jersey (darker in colour where the crest is glued to the shirt).

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It seems like Babel is leading the frontline tomorrow.
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icon_question.gif any1 know a link where i can watch this game online on friday morning plz?
my astro have a slight problem..gonna wait for their technician to come & have a look within this 48 hours..d*mn! shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Imdarren @ Apr 28 2010, 07:30 PM)
Hey guys! i just received my order this morning from the liverpool store. I'm STOKED!

The jersey is absolutely amazing. Definitely looks better real life than in pictures  rclxms.gif

Lets hope the change of sponsor breathes new life to LFC.  smile.gif 

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How much for the latest jersey?
Hope Liverpool will win dis sunday...
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Hope Liverpool will win dis sunday...
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yeah.. to salvage this topsy turvy season..
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if we lost then rafa will out.. quite boring rafa always usin old tactic.. draw on away and win on home
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its good for me, as long were winning..
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off topic : looks like inter will be going to be finals..
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off topic too, what a joy to watch the art of defending though with 10men for more than an hour, i cant wait for the final btw inter and bayern.. apart from a fingertip save, cesar didnt had much to do.. it certainly add to my respect for mourinho and how he prepared his team mentally. i put that down to man management !
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hey guys... sawce!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...ansfers&cc=4716

he's coming! biggrin.gif
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waiting our own fanz writing off this jonjo kid eventho he's not yet playing for us rolleyes.gif


Added on April 29, 2010, 9:02 amLiverpool will wear Carlsberg on their shirts for the final time at Anfield this weekend - but it'll be with a difference.

The Danish brewers' name has adorned the red shirt at every home game over the last eighteen years - but as Carlsberg prepare to sign off as the club's shirt sponsors at the end of the season their name will be displayed in Chinese language for the clash with Chelsea on Sunday afternoon.

With Liverpool the only UK city exhibiting at World Expo in Shanghai - its twin city - later this year, Carlsberg officials came up with the novel idea of interacting with the club's massive fan base in that part of the world.

Carlsberg Group Sponsorship Director Keld Strudahl said, "We're delighted to have been able to bring about this momentous occasion. We believe it's a nice little gesture to our friends and fans of Liverpool FC in China, where we know the Club devoted huge support in working things out and we also worked hard with all parties to mark this special occasion for the World Expo."

In addition to the change on the front of the players' shirts, Chinese messages will be displayed during the match on the perimeter advertising boardings and in the Carlsberg Lounge at Anfield a Chinese competition winner will present a trophy to the "Man of the Match" after the final whistle.

The Chinese Carlsberg logo will be only the fifth logo ever printed on a Liverpool FC shirt. Liverpool FC's first sponsor was Hitachi, followed by Crown Paints, Candy and then Carlsberg in 1992.

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so tell me..how to spell carlsberg in chinese? biggrin.gif

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at risk of bring jeered...am not entirely happy with Inter's progress to the finals...

Jose's price will go even higher...more difficult for him to come and manage us...sigh...
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Chelsea, Liverpool and Man United to fight it out for Newcastle starlet


Published 28/04/10
By Alan Nixon

Newcastle are facing a fight to keep super Slovenia kid Haris Vuckic - with Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool ready to make bids.

The 17-year-old attacker was watched by top representatives of all three clubs as he sparkled for the Toon reserves in midweek.

Vuckic, who has already made one substitute's appearance for the Toon first team, may even start for the Geordies this weekend as they try to convince him he should stay with them.

However, Mr. Ferguson has already shown a keen interest on him, and now both Frank Arnesen and Kenny Dalglish - hired to find the best young talent for both Chelsea and Liverpool - are on the case as well.

Newcastle have not yet pinned down Vuckic on a long-term contract and an offer of around £1.5million may steal him away.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Trans...icle408649.html


rafa lovessss kid! rolleyes.gif
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Maybe Rafa aiming to do like wenger did with Arsenal. Nurture the kids let them build chemistry between each other. Hope in the next 3-4 years, we can see all of these kids replacing the current team. rclxms.gif

With all the buying of these kids, it already showed that Rafa will be in Liverpool at least for next season or for a longer period. hmm.gif
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and many of 'em are attacking midfielder..

guess some will play side midfield which is lame
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Liverpool will wear Carlsberg on their shirts for the final time at Anfield this weekend - but it'll be with a difference.

The Danish brewers' name has adorned the red shirt at every home game over the last eighteen years - but as Carlsberg prepare to sign off as the club's shirt sponsors at the end of the season their name will be displayed in Chinese language for the clash with Chelsea on Sunday afternoon.

With Liverpool the only UK city exhibiting at World Expo in Shanghai - its twin city - later this year, Carlsberg officials came up with the novel idea of interacting with the club's massive fan base in that part of the world.

Carlsberg Group Sponsorship Director Keld Strudahl said, "We're delighted to have been able to bring about this momentous occasion. We believe it's a nice little gesture to our friends and fans of Liverpool FC in China, where we know the Club devoted huge support in working things out and we also worked hard with all parties to mark this special occasion for the World Expo."

In addition to the change on the front of the players' shirts, Chinese messages will be displayed during the match on the perimeter advertising boardings and in the Carlsberg Lounge at Anfield a Chinese competition winner will present a trophy to the "Man of the Match" after the final whistle.

The Chinese Carlsberg logo will be only the fifth logo ever printed on a Liverpool FC shirt. Liverpool FC's first sponsor was Hitachi, followed by Crown Paints, Candy and then Carlsberg in 1992.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...-new-look-shirt
This?
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whatever it is, it does promise an exciting future ahead for LFC..
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i hope aquilani gets to play full time like last sunday,he just superb,hope rafa realized that already,pls no more lucas over aquilani
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lol i just went thru wikipedia..

albert riera is still in the liverpool squad sweat.gif

i thought he pindah to CSKA Moscow edi xD??
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user posted image

probably this will appear in front of our jersey this sunday...macam gampunk! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Apr 29 2010, 12:56 PM)
lol i just went thru wikipedia..

albert riera is still in the liverpool squad sweat.gif

i thought he pindah to CSKA Moscow edi xD??
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ATLETICO MADRID: LIVERPOOL IS NOTHING WITHOUT TORRES

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/1...ithout-Torres-/

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Somehow I like it when another team look down on us. tongue.gif
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If you guys actually read the article properly, you'd notice that the Atletico players were not disrespectful at all. It's the media leading with provocative and totally misleading headlines. Again.

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Garcia said: “When Torres is not there, his absence is felt throughout the team.”


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De Gea kept a clean sheet against Liverpool in Spain, where Torres was a spectator.

He said: “Liverpool are a great team, but we did our best to unsettle their attack, and it’s rare that they don’t have a shot on goal. Forlan’s goal was very important, but the most important thing is that I kept a clean sheet.

“Our defence was very firm, and when you are in goal against such a great team, that’s a big deal.

“Everyone from Atletico must give their maximum there to qualify for the next round.

“Our fans are very excited, but we are taking it step by step. We have to fight for the fans, to win a title after so many years.”


Looking down on us? Disrespectful? Where?
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Yeah I know they didn't directly say we sucked without Torres.

The point is still there - Garcia think we will be very weak (in attack) without Torres.

I'd rather be a underdog anyways...so that the opponent wont know what hit them brows.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 29 2010, 03:19 PM)
ATLETICO MADRID: LIVERPOOL IS NOTHING WITHOUT TORRES

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/1...ithout-Torres-/

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Remember prior to the Real match at Anfield, Marca had a headline "This is Anfield... So What?". Arbeloa pasted the article on the dressing room and got everybody fired up. The rest was history. Although the title in this is misleading, it'll be good to provide an extra motivation to the players.

With Kuyt and Ngog absent, we might just see a front 4 of Babel, Benny, Aquilani/Gerrard and El Zhar (Though I much prefer Gerrard and Benny on the wings while Lucas as CM). Not as strong as having Torres around but certainly not one to underestimate.
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Somehow, yes, the title is misleading but I don't like it either when he said the team kept a cleansheet and that's a big deal.

Anyway, wonder how tonight's lineup gonna be. If babel plays upfront, who is going to play on the left? Benny?Well, Riera is frozen out and it's HIGHLY unlikely Rafa will call him up.If it's benny, then who's on the right?

It might turn out Gerrard on the right with Aquilani in the center...

Lineup will be something like this?


Reina

Glenny Carra Krygiakos Agger

Masch

Gerrard Lucas Benny

Aquilani

Babel



This?

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 29 2010, 04:21 PM)
Somehow, yes, the title is misleading but I don't like it either when he said the team kept a cleansheet and that's a big deal.

Anyway, wonder how tonight's lineup gonna be. If babel plays upfront, who is going to play on the left? Benny?Well, Riera is frozen out and it's HIGHLY unlikely Rafa will call him up.If it's benny, then who's on the right?

It might turn out Gerrard on the right with Aquilani in the center...

Lineup will be something like this?


Reina

Glenny Carra Krygiakos  Agger

Masch

Gerrard Lucas Benny

Aquilani

Babel



This?
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This is probably the best lineup Rafa can put in the current squad availability. Gerrard and Benny can switch between left and right wing at times to confuse the opponent (in case they are gonna mark Gerrard).

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 29 2010, 04:21 PM)
Somehow, yes, the title is misleading but I don't like it either when he said the team kept a cleansheet and that's a big deal.
I interpreted it as showing respect:

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“Our defence was very firm, and when you are in goal against such a great team, that’s a big deal."


To each his own, I guess.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 29 2010, 04:21 PM)
Somehow, yes, the title is misleading but I don't like it either when he said the team kept a cleansheet and that's a big deal.

Anyway, wonder how tonight's lineup gonna be. If babel plays upfront, who is going to play on the left? Benny?Well, Riera is frozen out and it's HIGHLY unlikely Rafa will call him up.If it's benny, then who's on the right?

It might turn out Gerrard on the right with Aquilani in the center...

Lineup will be something like this?


Reina

Glenny Carra Krygiakos  Agger

Masch

Gerrard Lucas Benny

Aquilani

Babel



This?
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this setup will win GAMES and the Cup too thumbup.gif

however, Pacheco and Nabil must be in the bench , juz incase......

forget abt Ngog
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=====reina===========
glen==carra==soti==agger=
=======masch=======
=======gerra=======
bennt=========RIERA==
=======aquaman=====
======babel========

why rafa forgetin riera.. he's the most complete winger only we got so far... this bold head really make me sick
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Riera did not feature in 1st team for too long.. putting him will be a risk.. Benayoun and Johnson will do the threats from wings.. dun worry..
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Btw, any live broadcast on Astro for this game?
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all the best to the boys in red! hopefully everythings goin our way! (not watching.. no astro tonite, any cannot stream.. sad.gif )


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eh? not shown on Astro tonight?
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tot im the only one goin thru double posting.. later hopefully anyone can provide a sufficient info on the game at the thread..
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tot im the only one goin thru double posting.. later hopefully anyone can provide a sufficient info on the game at the thread..
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tot im the only one goin thru double posting.. later hopefully anyone can provide a sufficient info on the game at the thread..
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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature?id=77...england&cc=4716
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if only we have a lab like the Milan lab..
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regarding this week game against chelsea, i heard this everywhere especially from scouser tabloid over the last weekend

i would like to know your opinion here, should we rather lose that game?

...because i do lol

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QUOTE(Jer @ Apr 29 2010, 09:58 PM)
Btw, any live broadcast on Astro for this game?
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QUOTE(muzrix @ Apr 30 2010, 12:52 AM)
regarding this week game against chelsea, i heard this everywhere especially from scouser tabloid over the last weekend

i would like to know your opinion here, should we rather lose that game?

...because i do lol
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There are pros and cons to it, but that question you pose has put my whole family in a dilemma. To win or not to win.. On one hand I agree with you to deter m.u. a 19th but on the other, UEFA glory at stake, although Mathematically there is hope, but we should keep non-originals like m.u. at bay. So either way it's a bitter pill to swallow. My opinion and no offense intended. smile.gif

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plus, and i assumed all of us agreed that it'll land us a sweet gift as a departure of rafa to wherever... at the expense of the special one with the blue's bless

how sweet is that
one can dream...
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post Apr 30 2010, 02:08 AM

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The team in full: Reina, Mascherano, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Lucas, Gerrard, Aquilani, Babel, Benayoun, Kuyt. Subs: Cavalieri, Kyrgiakos, Pacheco, Degen, El Zhar, Ayala, Ngog.

so mascherano at rightback and johnson at leftback.
no one thought of that i guess.
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post Apr 30 2010, 02:17 AM

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yeah ..
aqua's starting !!
lets hope babel didnt miss any easy chances ..
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Crazy lineup I must say.Play 2 players out of their usual positions.Even though they can play there, to try out something like is VERY risky.
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we had seen masherano at rightbacks when we were 1 man down vs everton, he did a damn greatjob. i got fate on johnson. btw aquilani was in the line up, i'm shocked with the decision. hope his magic able to lead us to final
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SORRY, astro kiive atRT t 3am.

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QUOTE(manx @ Apr 30 2010, 02:47 AM)
no live from astro?
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post Apr 30 2010, 02:52 AM

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Looks like Rafa's intentions are clear. He's going all out for the uefa cup , the most offensive formation this season . Let's go you reds!
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thats the problem with the media today, people has criticised rafa for being too cautious in games or tactics, seldom changing things around, and now he has taken a risk trailing 1-0, so if things dont go our way tonight, people are gonna point the finger on him. on another note, finally happy to see aqua start, hope he gets to stamp his mark in an important game, come on you reds !
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1 Shot On Target on 10 seconds, 3 corners in 1minute.So far so good.Go on reds!
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any smooth stream ?
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post Apr 30 2010, 03:20 AM

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lol reina skillful. HAHA


Added on April 30, 2010, 3:21 ami saw torres. LOL


Added on April 30, 2010, 3:31 amWTF KUYT. did i see a great passing between them? 1 touch wei.

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Almost conceded doh.gif
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post Apr 30 2010, 03:37 AM

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WTF. flag up


Added on April 30, 2010, 3:49 amAQUILANI...... WTFFFFFFFF

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AQUILANI!!!
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post Apr 30 2010, 03:50 AM

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AQUAAAAA! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Apr 30 2010, 03:50 AM

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OMG. wad a finishing wei. damn imba
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1-0 !
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post Apr 30 2010, 03:51 AM

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goooooal!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What a way to score his 1st biggrin.gif

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great tactic by rafa & great finishing by aquilani
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aqua is proving his worth.. he's been great for the past couple of games.. please stay fit and we might find a very nice attacking system.
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his 2nd goal for liverpool rite? LOL. wad a dead end corner. full dive unable to reach it
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 30 2010, 03:52 AM)
What a way to score his 1st biggrin.gif
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his first? erkk.. he scored oredi before.. his 2nd now la sols...
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QUOTE(RyanHo @ Apr 30 2010, 03:54 AM)
his 2nd goal for liverpool rite? LOL. wad a dead end corner. full dive unable to reach it
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but somehow if atheletico manage to score 1 goal . we need score 2 more sad.gif
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WE WILL SCORE 2 MORE SOON
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Great goal, just what we need. Hopefully this settles the player down and they play with more control and less recklessness. Our best chances came when we pass the ball around.

Having said that, Atleti looks dangerous having an additional striker in Aguero. That extra pace made lots of difference and have beaten the offside trap a few times.

Edit: Looks like Fulham is in trouble, conceding an away goal. biggrin.gif

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I kena marah neighbours bising2...
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aguero's pace threaten our def. even masherano having issue wif him
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tongue.gif i only noticed benny for 2 things in first half, right at the start and right at the end ! come on ! another early goal in the 2nd half would be good to draw atd madrid out and leaves spaces for us to exploit ! hopefully we dont concede !
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Johnson really out of place...
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Masch is always complaining to side ref. Get on with the game and improve your passing dammit
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both Aqua's goals in front of the Kop end... wawawa...


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Masch is always complaining to side ref. Get on with the game and improve your passing dammit
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he kena yelo kad today, cannot play final laaa... better b careful Masch...

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giler la liverpool play short2 pass tactic notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Flicx @ Apr 30 2010, 04:01 AM)
Masch is always complaining to side ref. Get on with the game and improve your passing dammit
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Yes I agree, kinda testing refs patience as well.
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Fulham 2-1 Hamb
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post Apr 30 2010, 04:51 AM

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aquilani out, elzhar in
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my heart is beating very fast at 85 min +
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Rafa saying "Please be more compact... compact...compact..." laugh.gif Nervy times.
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lol. i feel sleepy. 30mins to go. haih
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Fulham in final...
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Fulham in Final smile.gif
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btw, for extra time, away goal still counted?
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so there will no away goal advantage in extra time rite?
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BENNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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benny..........................
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GOAL!!!!
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goal!!!!!!!!!
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Lucas assist??? wooot..!!
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away goal how? still counted?
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Brilliant assist by Lucas and even better finishing! thumbup.gif
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huh?? why did the commentator say the away goal still apply??
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On extra time it does not count , probably new Europe League rules.
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Think the commentator meant that if we concede a goal, we will out from the competition smile.gif
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away goal not counted. i wiki it. LOL


Added on April 30, 2010, 5:11 amWTF. conceded

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Gone case doh.gif
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Liv 2 Ath 1
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post Apr 30 2010, 05:14 AM

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WTF masch doing??
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ya if xtra time seri 2-2 away team win i think
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There has been at least one case of a wrong application of the away goals rule by a referee in an international club tournament. It happened during the second-round tie in the 1971–72 European Cup Winners' Cup between Rangers and Sporting Clube de Portugal. This fixture had the following scorelines:

* First leg: Rangers 3 – 2 Sporting
* Second leg, after 90 minutes: Sporting 3 – 2 Rangers
* Second leg, after extra time: Sporting 4 – 3 Rangers

Since the teams were now level 6–6 on aggregate, the referee ordered a penalty shootout, which Sporting won 3–0. Rangers appealed the loss, however, on the grounds that the referee should not have ordered the shootout, since the Rangers goal in extra time in Lisbon gave them a lead of three away goals to two. Rangers won the appeal and went on to win the Cup Winners' Cup that season.

It must be noted that the above result is due specifically to UEFA rules regarding the use of away goals. CONCACAF has a different rule for its CONCACAF Champions League, employing away goals at the end of full time of the second leg, but not applying the rule at the end of extra time. For example, the semifinal of the 2008–09 CONCACAF Champions League between Cruz Azul and the Puerto Rico Islanders had the following scorelines:

* First leg: Puerto Rico Islanders 2 – 0 Cruz Azul
* Second leg, after 90 minutes: Cruz Azul 2 – 0 Puerto Rico Islanders
* Second leg, after extra time: Cruz Azul 3 – 1 Puerto Rico Islanders

Under UEFA rules, the Puerto Rico Islanders would have advanced. However, because CONCACAF does not apply the away goals rule a second time, the tie went to a shootout, which Cruz Azul won 4–2.
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The away goal rule still counts
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Article 8
Away goals and extra time
8.01 For matches played under the knockout system, if the two teams involved in
a tie score the same number of goals over the two legs, the team which
scores more away goals qualifies for the next stage. If this procedure does
not produce a result, i.e. if both teams score the same number of goals at
home and away, two 15-minute periods of extra time are played at the end of
the second leg. If, during extra time, both teams score the same number of
goals, away goals count double (i.e. the visiting club qualifies). If no goals are
scored during extra time, kicks from the penalty mark (see Article 17)
determine which club qualifies for the next stage.

Source: http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Downlo...89_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Well, the commentator did mention AM will go through if we cant score another 1.

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Wot are you talking about mate..The Away goal still counts

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Why on earth Degen is coming on?

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