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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Hodgson in the house!

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post Apr 25 2010, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(LeaSe*lineR @ Apr 25 2010, 09:11 PM)
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did i miss somethin? or just rumor? more interested on changing the owner part  sad.gif
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This was published on The Sun one or 2 weeks ago.
The Chinese businessman would like to buy Liverpool with the condition Rafa stays.
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post Apr 25 2010, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(hazairi @ Apr 25 2010, 09:38 AM)
Guys, though I'm a Liverpool fan, but I wanna see our team lost to Chelsea so that MU won't beat Liverpool's 18 times league champions.
What are your thoughts?
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No way. I want to see Liverpool beat Chelsea.
If Chelsea want 3 points, come get it.
"18 league champions" is a grand-mother story that happened 20 years ago. I don't care.
If ManU win the league title again, meaning Chelsea is not good enough. Let it be.

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post Apr 26 2010, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Apr 25 2010, 10:22 PM)
if we couldn't qualify to ucl next season, meaning we are not gud enough, then let it be..
it's not about grandmama story or what so-ever, but it's about dignity..
we can afford to loose our title record to our bitter rival, that's it.
if manyur win this season, then it will be the real pain for us, trust me...
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If it's dignity, it's 20 years old dignity.
We are not up to that NOW.
If Chelsea drop points, Man U win the entire matches and win the league title - Man U deserve it.

Why real pain to us? Don't take it personal.
It's a sport. If ManU win, they win it with combination of consistent run of good results and luck.
They deserve it.


Added on April 26, 2010, 2:20 am
QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 26 2010, 12:31 AM)
gerrard is superb... wonder why ppl hate him tis season
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Because he played like crap.

No worries, he's not the most hated one.
Rafa first, next Lucas, next Kuyt, next Babel... Gerrard probably the last to blame.

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post Apr 27 2010, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(ADVedder @ Apr 27 2010, 12:26 AM)
babel ada.. he can cover up..
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Yeap, I rate Babel higher than Ngog, in terms of pace, skill and finishing.
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post Apr 30 2010, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(zs3889 @ Apr 30 2010, 06:04 AM)
Hmm you sound like you are feeling so good and 100% optimistic towards Liverpool's situation..
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I for one that feel good and proud to be Liverpool fan, always.
I stay optimistic. I walk through the storm with my head held high.
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post Apr 30 2010, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 30 2010, 10:36 AM)
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After you have been here for six years, after bringing in your own management team, after rightly or wrongly revamping the academy, having bought and sold as many players as you have and having guided Liverpool to one of its worst seasons ever in recent times... you still want to blame the lack of players???

F*CK YOU RAFA!!!

Just admit that you've made a few mistakes this year and most will happily let you stay a few more seasons. Stop moaning  shakehead.gif

Otherwise get the f*ck out and bring your ego to Juventus. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
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Good F*CK!! I second this.

Why don't you apply the manager post at Liverpool? Bring your own management team, sign your players and bring us league title?
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post Apr 30 2010, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 30 2010, 10:43 AM)
You have always been supportive of Rafa, but have you once laid out reasons why?
Many of us have stated exactly why Rafa isn't up to the task, and everytime you would come out with your sarcastic remarks.

Tell us why then should Rafa stay? God knows that this thread is in serious need of a 'proper' debate nowadays.
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I stand by Rafa until the day he is no longer manager of Liverpool. As simple as that.
I can see he worked hard. He brought us silverware. He signed us good players that strengthen our squad.
And I'm grateful for he has done for Liverpool.
I have explained why we have shitty season. Injuries and inconsistent form of our players.
I don't F*CK Rafa for that.

The semi-final match against At.Madrid, it either win or lose.
I'm regret for the defeat. I don't F*CK Rafa for that.
Now we got defeated and you jump out with the F-word.
What if we win against At.Madrid? You diam-diam celebrate like glory hunter?

What if we win the both semi and final game and grab the silverware, will you F*CK Rafa?
What if we lose in final game against Fulham? You jump out with the F-word?
What is this?

Likewise, I'll support you wholeheartedly if you are the manager of Liverpool.

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post Apr 30 2010, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Apr 30 2010, 11:01 AM)
Rafa should stay Rafa should stay! Eat that Maddie....hahahahahahaha

On a serious note, I thought Liverpool did decently when it comes to transfer, apart from a few bad purchases of players, we hardly had a chance to keep players. I know Rafa should have done better with Alonso, but c'mon, if a player ain't performing, which cost us wins, what's the reason of keeping em? I've said it before, how many Berbatov, Shevchenko, Jeffers purchases can we make? One and that's it, bad Rafa.... No offense but Arsenal hasn't won a single trophy for like how long? And what did Arsene Wenger get? Not forgetting almost lost a 4th place to their London rivals Spurs. WTF WTF WTF

Actually leh, the only reason I want Rafa to stay is because I don't think there's any managers in the market these days have the credibility to bring Liverpool forward. I do not like his purchases as well, I want a creative winger!!!! Not a utility player.
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No managers can 100% guarantee that all players they sign can deliver.
I hope Ngog can turn out to be 2nd Torres.
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post Apr 30 2010, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 30 2010, 11:19 AM)
Do you even know why he's upset? From what you're posting, it seems you believe it's because we lost last night. Ever wonder it could be because Rafa keeps making excuses (need 4 to 5 more players, which club doesn't?) and empty promises (4th)?

I don't always agree with Mad Moz but having met him a few times, I know one thing for a fact. That he's more devoted than many other Liverpool fans I know. To call him a "glory hunter" is displaying sheer ignorance.
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It's not making excuses. He made valid points.
We don't have other players that can score like Torres. I wish Ngog can dribble and finish like Torres.
Obviously many of our players do not deliver this season, including Gerard.
For this, yes, I think it would be good if we have few more players.

Promise of league title, 4th place, silverware. All managers remain optimistic.
All managers want to win the title and silverware but not ALL of them can win title yet they set their target high.
It's acceptable to me.
What do you expect the answer from Rafa then? You want to hear Rafa say "I promise we will not get relegated next season"?

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 30 2010, 11:12 AM)
I have been supportive of Rafa but at times, I have doubts on his selection for lineup.

Before the match started, I already questioned about playing Glenny on the left.You clearly, don't play 2 players out of their usual position in such an important match.The fact that Glenny likes going forward means we would have problem dealing with the attacks on the left from Ath Madrid which they are strong in , in the likes of Reyes and Valera.

In the end, we did concede the goal from the left side and the one conceded is none other than Glenny. sweat.gif
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Glenny is the attacking type of player. We knew that before he signed for Liverpool.


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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 30 2010, 11:14 AM)
You really think that i came out with that because we lost last night? I actually say the same thing everytime Rafa goes to the media asking for more money!

How long exactly have I been anti-rafa? Since we started losing? Not really, ask around... I have been calling for his head for a good few seasons now, and have been warning that the 'shit will soon hit the ceiling soon' even during the good times.

Rafa is no doubt a good manager, but is he really suited for the task at hand? And OMG, his constant moaning and politicking!
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We need money for good players. No problem with that.
Even Gerard and Torres urge to sign TOP players.

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post Apr 30 2010, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 30 2010, 11:26 AM)
The thing that really irks me about Rafa is that it is 'never his fault'.
How hard is it to come out and say "Maybe I made a mistake on Aqua, but give him more time." Instead he comes up with a statement that effectively questions Aqua's integrity and desire! shocking.gif

He really does talk the good fight Rafa, and says all those 'witty' things to keep the press interested, but the results and performances on the pitch do not reflect this. Everyone loves a sarcastic yet charismatic machine gun mouthed manager (i.e. Mourinho and Shankly) but that is a privilege afforded only to champions.

Btw Aluene, imo supporting a manager out of blind faith is what really let Manchester United catch up with Liverpool in the first place sad.gif

PS. I do believe that Rafa has the makings of a great manager. No one seems to read or second guess the opponent's tactics as well as him, but he then fails to capitalize on this. His inability to get the most out of his whole squad is another worry, but he'd probably learn this with time. And time IS on his side, but can Liverpool really afford to wait for Rafa to mature?
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I don't remember managers apologize publicly for not delivering silverware.
I don't remember managers apologize publicly for signing players that turn out to be flop.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 30 2010, 11:34 AM)
Yes, we got exactly what we asked for, an attacking minded fullback. No complains there... even if he does defend like a sissy laugh.gif
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Liverpool did not sign Glen Johnson out of your WISHLIST.
It is the decision of Rafa to sign Glen.
We all know Glenny is attacking type of player. So, complain when he defends like sissy? No complains when he scores us goals?

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QUOTE(reiben05 @ Apr 30 2010, 11:41 AM)
maybe putting agger on left back is soo much better defensively
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Yes, provided we have solid backup of CB.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 30 2010, 11:50 AM)
You really do take things literally don't you?

When he says "we" signed Johnson, he meant Rafa/the club.

On the issue of defenders, let's get this straight. A defenders primary task is to what? Precisely. I am personally quite fond of Johnson but he does need to work on his defending.
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This is because we take it literally when we comment on the formation, starting lineup, signings of Rafa.
In fact, none of us know MORE than Rafa.
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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...england&cc=4716
Is this a chance to sign Tevez?
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post May 1 2010, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(kabuto rider kick @ May 1 2010, 05:41 PM)
if tevez leaves MC will MC go all out for torres then?man pls keep your eyes elsewhere MC,torres not for sell!
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Of course they will take their chances and look for a swap with Tevez for Torres.
But that is fat hope.
IMO, both Reina & Torres are unlikely to leave until the day Rafa leaves Liverpool.

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ May 1 2010, 06:19 PM)
on the other hand, what's the possibility of Tevez joining Liverpool?
But the question of playing Tevez or playing Torres will still be a big question, assuming rafa still plays the 4-5-1 formation.

or probably assuming if Tevez is around, we play 3-1-3-1-2 until either strikers are out and play 4-5-1 again?

and to the previous poster above me, mybiebie...

what are the 'evidences' to substantiate your claims?
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Why not? It's all about $$. If Mancini wants to kick Tevez out and I don't see any reason why he will stay.
With his proven scoring record, he can easily join other top football club in Europe.
Both Torres and Tevez can play together. Formation can be changed.
He will certainly strengthen our attack.

P/S Tevez can have reunion party with Mascherano again. nod.gif
P/S Riena, Torres, Mascherano, Tevez and Rafa can all swear and sing in Spanish. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 1 2010, 07:51 PM)
I don't see why Tevez would like to join us if other big clubs are after him.We cant offer him CL football next season.No way he will join us.Just trying to be realistic here...

Speaking of Tevez, if I'm not mistaken, after years in English league, he still cant speak in English.I remember reading an article about Evra being a translator him and Park Ji Sung...And that article was not so long ago...

Wonder if he can understand Carra and co scouse accent.
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Mancity was ranked No.10 in 2008-09.
Tevez joined a ranked No.10 club.
It's all about money, I think.

I think the chance of signing him is slim. It's not because of CL qualification. It's because we do not have the bling-bling.
I just want to say he's a good add-on.

P/S Somehow I think joining a CL qualified club is a BULL SHIT. You can see how many big names joined the No.10 club.

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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...england&cc=4716

"I decided to stay last year because of the fans and for one year I have been working hard, trying to do my best. We will see what happens in the future."
Asked if he would be at the club next season, Benitez said: "I want win against Chelsea and then Hull, and that is all. I am here now, and hopefully I will still be here on Sunday against Chelsea."


Well, it seems Rafa is under tremendous stress this season. He sounded weird. He sounded tired.
IMO, he'll likely leave unless miracles happen - that's new club owner with 80million pound transfer kit + new stadium.
I think he should go. It's bad for his health if he keeps stressing himself.
Join the Turin club or Real Madrid or any new club and have a fresh start.

Bye-bye, Rafa.
You will never walk alone (please don't walk along with Torres, Reina and Mascherano).

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post May 2 2010, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(mamet @ May 2 2010, 12:35 AM)
thanks rafa for buying sucky players and use sucky formation and tactics this season ..
good luck in turin and go make a reunion with sissoko tongue.gif ..
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Rafa may ship back Sissoko to Liverpool (just like how he shipped Sissoko to Juventus). laugh.gif
Remember the Americans will have to compensate 16m in cash if they sack Rafa?
Perhaps Rafa can put a condition on the table that Liverpool must sign Sissoko at the price of 10m before he agrees to sign for the Turin club (so that he will have 80m + 10m = 90m to spend at the Turin club).
So, the Americans can save 6 millions + Sissoko. Untunglah!! It's a steal. Win-win situation.

Gosh, I must be drunk...


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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 2 2010, 12:43 AM)
With the report and tone of the word, it seems Rafa will leave after Chelsea game.

But it is a strange comment, that he stayed because of fan last year.
Don't quite understand.
Did he under pressure to depart last year?
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With the superb result last season, I'm not surprised top European clubs knocking Rafa's door everyday.
I reckon he had options to stay or leave at the time.
I think he meant he chose to stay back last season. Yeap, I think he meant he stayed for the fans.
I think he understood the real meaning of "YNWA" last season. He was touched by the support of Liverpool fans.

P/S With the current bad results, there are still suckers willing to sign Rafa with 80m transfer kit. Amazing.

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