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TSPCcrazy
post Mar 22 2005, 05:11 PM, updated 20y ago

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Actually it's been quite sometimes since I wanted to post this thread...
We have highest FSB for amd64, but it doesn't facilitate that much since we know what matters most is the clock speed at the end of the day. biggrin.gif

Honestly I've waited long enough for somebody to open this thread, but to no avail.
So I open it myself. If the mod here (wait, I'm a mod) doesn't see the relevance of this thread, please just throw this thread away without flaming me...: respect:

So the rules are pretty simple:

1. A screenshot of stable prime + cpuz (no need to verify), at least full screen passed test (like what I did below), normally it will take about 3 hrs (small fft) for this to complete. (To be ranked prime stable)

2. An option to show your bench able speed, please attached cpu-z and superPI screenies. (To be ranked benchable)

3. Please specify type of cooling, (air, water, phase change, you name it).

4. This is optional...for those who have the stepping information pls include it with ur results for easy reference..places to be limited to 20 as to make for more competitive database


RANKING...


AMD64 S939 SERIES & FX SERIES

Prime stable
1. babyelf ~ 3000+ @ 2.943 Ghz @ 1.57v @ Watercooled @ Venice
2. arj ~ 3000+ @ 2.84 Ghz @ 1.7v @ Watercooled @ Venice
3. tampoi ~ 3200+ @ 2.8 Ghz @ 1.552v @ Air cooling @ Venice
4. rlhc17 ~ 3500+ @ 2.76 Ghz @ 1.7v @ XP-90 @ Clawhammer (CAA2C 0505APBW)
5. uglyvamp ~ 3000+ @ 2.745 Ghz @ 1.55v @ Venice
6. ianho ~ 3000+ @ 2.70 Ghz @ 1.60v @ Watercooled @ Venice (LBBLE0516GPBW)
7. ah_chak ~ 3000+ @ 2.7 Ghz @ 1.6v @ XP90C and 92mm Thermaltake Smart Fan x 2 @ Venice (0516 DPJW)
8. Irenic ~ 3500+ @ 2.70 Ghz @ 1.65v @ XP-90 & Tornado @ Newcastle
9. ahpaul82 ~ 3000+ @ 2.662 Ghz @ 1.616v @ Watercooled @ Venice (LBBLE 0516CPBW)
10. PCcrazy ~ 3200+ @ 2.62 Ghz @ 1.65v @ Hyper6 @ Winchester (CBBHD0450VPGW)
11. fritzz ~ 3000+ @ 2.60 Ghz @ 1.39v @ Air cooling @ Winchester
12. kianwee ~ 3200+ @ 2.5Ghz @ 1.36V @ Cooling? @ Venice
13. Imrezm ~ 3000+ @ 2.5 Ghz @ 1.6v @ Air cooling @ Winchester
14. gamers maniac ~ 3200+ @ 2.5 Ghz @ 1.63v @ XP-90 - delta12cm @ Winchester
15. moderno ~ 3000+ @ 2.5Ghz @ 1.71V @ Hyper6 + @ Winchester
16. fatalynx05 ~ 3000+ @ 2.5Ghz @ 1.712V @ Venice
17. Rzonealley ~ 3000+ @ 2.5 Ghz @ 1.76v @ XP-90 @ Winchester (CBBID 0451MPM)
18. e-jump ~ 3000+ @ 2.43Ghz @ 1.50v @ Air cooling @ Winchester (CBBGD 0440)
19. remysix ~ 3000+ @ 2.43 Ghz @ 1.65v @ Air cooling @ Winchester
20. Rezz ~ 3200+ @ 2.4 Ghz @ 1.63v @ Air cooling @ Winchester

Benchable
1. arj ~ 3000+ @ 3.0 Ghz @ 1.616v @ Dry Ice @ Venice
2. babyelf ~ 3000+ @ 2.943 Ghz @ 1.57v @ Watercooled
3. arj ~ FX-55 @ 2.86 Ghz @ 1.74v @ Watercooled @ Clawhammer
4. rlhc17 ~ 3500+ @ 2.85 Ghz @ 1.7v @ XP-90 & 8cm Delta Focus Flow @ Clawhammer
5. babyelf ~ 3500+ @ 2.84 Ghz @ 1.6v @ XP-90 & tornado @ Clawhammer @ CAA2C 0509 DPMW
6. uglyvamp ~ 3000+ @ 2.8 Ghz @ 1.53v @ Venice
7. De_Cruelz ~ 3500+ @ 2.8 Ghz @ 1.63v @ Stock @ Clawhammer
8. Irenic ~ 3500+ @ 2.794 Ghz @ 1.66v @ XP-90 + Tornado 92mm @ Newcastle
9. x800 ~ 3000+ @ 2.754 Ghz @ 1.632v @ TT Big Water @ Venice
10. PCcrazy ~ 3200+ @ 2.75 Ghz @ 1.70v @ Hyper6 @ Winchester (CBBHD0450VPGW)
11. antonio_zth ~ 3000+ @ 2.706 Ghz @ 1.685v @ Air cooling @ Venice
12. Sniper on the roof ~ 3200+ @ 2.7 Ghz @ 1.7v @ Air cooling @ Winchester
13. e-jump ~ 3000+ @ 2.64 Ghz @ 1.632v @ Air cooling @ Winchester
14. Evogenix ~ 3200+ @ 2.6 Ghz @ 1.71 @ Air cooling @ Winchester
15. Rzonealley ~ 3000+ @ 2.56 Ghz @ 1.71v @ XP-90 @ Winchester
16. ffrulz ~ 3000+ @ 2.4 Ghz @ 1.6v @ Air cooling @ Winchester


Bootable
1. arj ~ 3000+ @ 3.2 Ghz @ 1.71v @ Dry Ice @ Venice
2. De_Cruelz ~ 3500+ @ 3.0 Ghz @ 1.776v @ Watercooled @ Clawhammer
3. rlhc17 ~ 3500+ @ 2.9 Ghz @ 1.70v @ XP-90 @ Clawhammer
4. x800 ~ 3000+ @ 2.854 Ghz @ 1.632v @ TT Big Water @ Venice
5. PCcrazy ~ 3200+ @ 2.85 Ghz @ 1.75v @ Hyper 6 @ Winchester (CBBHD0450VPGW)
6. ianho ~ 3000+ @ 2.794 Ghz @ 1.60v @ Stock @ Venice
7. irenic ~ 3500+ @ 2.794 Ghz @ 1.66v @ XP-90 + Tornado 92mm @ Newcastle
8. e-jump ~ 3000+ @ 2.72 Ghz @ 1.63 @ Air cooling @ Winchester
9. Antonio_zth ~ 3000+ @ 2.7 Ghz @ 1.6v @ Air cooling @ Winchester



AMD64 S754 SERIES

Prime stable
1. Embuhnator ~ 2800+ @ 2.70 Ghz @ 1.536v @ CAA2C 0505 FPMW @ Clawhammer
2. mazdagtr210 ~ 3200+ @ 2.61 Ghz @ 1.64v @ ACFreezer64 @ Clawhammer
3. Koyukii ~ 3000+ @ 2.45 Ghz @ 1.65v @ Air cooling @ Newcastle
4. Snoy ~ 3000+ @ 2.4Ghz @ 1.50v @ Air cooling @ Clawhammer
5. Jslut ~ 3000+ @ 2.4Ghz @ 1.65v @ XP-90 @ Clawhammer
6. shadow_dweller ~ 3000+ @ 2.25Ghz @ 1.46v @ stock cooling @ Newcastle

Benchable
1. Embuhnator ~ 2800+ @ 2.88 Ghz @ 1.77v @ 0505 FPMW @ Clawhammer @ Watercooled
2. KoYukii ~ 3000+ @ 2.62 Ghz @ 1.71v @ 0448CPNW @ Air cooling @ Newcastle
3. Jslut ~ 3000+ @ 2.61 Ghz @ 1.85v @ XP-90 @ Clawhammer
4. aichan ~ 2800+ @2.6 Ghz @1.5v @0505 FPMW @ Stock @ Clawhammer
5. Shadow_dweller ~ 3000+ @ 2.50 Ghz @ 1.68v @ Stock @ Newcastle
6. Sidewinderz ~ 2800+ @ 2.16 Ghz @ 1.568v @ Air cooling @ Clawhammer


Bootable
1. Embuhnator ~ 2800+ @ 2.925 Ghz @ 1.792v @ CAA2C 0505FPMW @ Clawhammer
2. Embuhnator ~ 2800+ @ 2.80 Ghz @ 1.753v @ 0349 VPMW @ Clawhammer
3. Shadow_dweller ~ 3000+ @ 2.52 Ghz @ 1.68v @ Stock Cooling @ Newcastle
4. fatalynx05 ~ 2800+ @ 2.5 Ghz @ 1.50v @ Air Cooling @ Clawhammer


Guys please feel free to contribute...
Feel free to discuss anything about AMD64 here, new core overclocking potential and so on. But please keep this thread clean.

AMD64 Processor specifications / How to read an OPN
http://www.angrygames.com/AMD_CPU/AMD_64/AMD_64.htm

Credit to Gogar for his excellent work..
http://math.gogar.com/athlon64.cgi

A study of AMD64 ocing techniques
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware...64oc/index.html


This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Oct 19 2005, 12:16 PM
jslut
post Mar 22 2005, 05:17 PM

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aaah, i get it now biggrin.gif

for now there's only my result so i'll post mine for now smile.gif

COME ON SEMPRON USERS!!!! JOIN IN!!!

semprons from socket A to socket 754 are welcomed smile.gif


AMD64 SEMPRON SOCKET 754

1. Cyclone87 ~ 2800+ @ 2715 @ 1.45V @ Stock @ Palermo (E6) [12/09]
2. soulfly ~ 2800+ @ 2704 @ 1.616V @ XP90 @ Palermo (LBBWE 0527EPAW) [3/10]
3. wtm0325 ~ 2800+ @ 2680 @ 1.488V @ Stock @ Palermo (E6)
4. mazdagtr210 ~ 2800+ @ 2565 @ 1.57V @ AC-Freezer64 @ Palermo (E6) [16/09]
5. mazdagtr210 ~ 2800+ @ 2240 @ 1.552V @ AC-Freezer64 @ Palermo (E6)
6. jslut ~ 3100+ @ 2475@ 1.5v @ XP-90 @ Palermo
7. soulfly ~ 3000+ @ 2430 @ 1.65V @ Air-cooling @ Palermo
8. low yat 82 ~ 2800+ @ 2402 @ 1.5V @ Stock(?) @ Palermo (E6) [6/01/06]
8. embuhnator ~ 2800+ @ 2400 @ 1.392V @ Stock HSF
9. soulfly ~ 2800+ @ 2400 @ 1.696V @ XP90 @Palermo(LBBID 0514CPMW) [26/08]
10. superpc ~ 2500+ @ 2275 @ 1.45V @ Stock @ Palermo (E6) [13/09]
11.
12. mazdagtr210 ~ 2800+ @ 2240 @ 1.552V @ AC-Freezer64 @ Palermo(E6) [11/09]
13. KenL ~ 2800+ @ 2145 @ 1.45V @ Stock @ Palermo (E6) [10/09]
14. Najmods ~ 2500+ @ 1910 (272*7) @ 1.424V @ Stock (?) @ Palermo (E6) [24/10]

EDIT2:: here's another update to my results smile.gif

This post has been edited by jslut: Jan 8 2006, 10:49 AM


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post Mar 22 2005, 05:24 PM

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Solution for low overclock in Windows XP SP2

Disabling DEP system-wide using boot.ini

1. Click Start, and then click ControlPanel.

2. Under Pickacategory, click PerformanceandMaintenance.

3. Under or Pick a Control Panel icon, click System.

4. Click the Advanced tab, and in the Startup and Recovery area, click Settings.

5. In the SystemStartup area, click Edit.

6. In Notepad, click Edit and then click Find.

7. In the Findwhat field, type /noexecute and then click FindNext.

8. In the Find dialog box click Cancel.

9. Replace the policy_level (for example, "OptIn" default) with "AlwaysOff" (without the quotes).

WARNING: Be sure to enter the text carefully.

Note: Your boot.ini file switch should now read:

/noexecute=AlwaysOff

10. In Notepad, click File and then click Save.

11. Click OK to close StartupandRecovery.

12. Click OK to close SystemProperties and then restart your computer.

QUOTE(Jimbo Mahoney@XS)
In 2k and XP SP1 I could clock up to 9 x 324 (2.9 Ghz)

In XP SP2, I could barely hit 9 x 300 (2.7 Ghz) and that was with a different HAL.

Turning off DEP solved this for me:
Source from XS

Some other forumers also conclude success from this tweak...

So what is DEP? It is some kind of protection to prevent malicious code from running. Some suggested that the win actually telling the system to not boot due to incorrect clock speed reported. However rumours says this tweak is for DFI and venice combo. But others who got stuck at very low overclock might want to have a go at the tweak.

Guys, if you have tried or wanted to, don't forget to put some feedback here. Will put my feedback later, hopefully I can achieve more speed (which I doubt so). DFI owners, pls have a go... thumbup.gif
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post Mar 22 2005, 08:32 PM

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Hi PCcrazy, good of you to open such a thread rather than waiting for someone else thumbup.gif

Perhaps you could specify a specific number of hours and running what test to qualify for the ranking? Just thought that it might be clearer that way and avoid confusion later on. smile.gif

3500+ CBBLE 0515?????? - 2705 MHZ 1.552V AIR - Rickster_64 XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516?????? - 2800 MHZ 1.680V H2O - Badge56 XS
3200+ LBBLE 0517APHW - 2850 MHZ 1.520V AIR - PITer TWEAK.PL
3200+ LBBLE 0518APDW - 2853 MHZ 1.696V H2O - htkm1 XS

3000+ LBBLE 0517APIW - 2800 MHZ 1.440V AIR - peter lu XS
3000+ LBBLE 0517APIW - 2700 MHZ 1.360V AIR - peter lu XS

3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2800 MHZ 1.400V AIR - Burnt_Ram XS - SuperPI 32M , XP-90 + FAN
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2850 MHZ 1.450V AIR - 4rory XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2800 MHZ 1.408V AIR - D3kMatrix XS/OCforums - prime stable 8 h
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2850 MHZ 1.520V AIR - D3kMatrix XS/OCforums - prime stable 24 h
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2906 MHZ 1.550V AIR - s7e9h3n XS , SuperPI 32M stable
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2900 MHZ 1.408V H2O - musk XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2700 MHZ 1.360V ??? - jinu117 XS - prime stable
3200+ LBBLE 0515APAW - 2950 MHZ 1.500V H2O - JfRsQ XS - stable ??? , Bought from NCIX Computers, Canada

3500+ LBBLE 0516CPAW - 2754 MHZ 1.616V AIR - Dani XS - stock cooler

3000+ CBBLE 0512DPAW - 2902 MHZ 1.500V AIR - SmokeyTheBandit XS
3000+ CBBLE 0504DPAW - 3000 MHZ 1.648V PC - Gorod XS
3000+ CBBLE 0512DPAW - 2700 MHZ 1.360V AIR - =STE=BloodAngel XS
3000+ CBBLE 0504DPAW - 2800 MHZ 1.616V AIR - Gorod XS
3000+ CBBLE 0512DPAW - 2857 MHZ 1.632V AIR - DesertShooter XS - Zalman 7700CU , stable ?
3000+ CBBLE 0512DPAW - 2880 MHZ 1.520V AIR - vrtn XS - XP120 + FAN , SuperPI 16M Stable
3000+ CBBLE 0512DPAW - 2800 MHZ 1.520V AIR - =STE=BloodAngel XS
3500+ CBBLE 0512DPAW - 2840 MHZ 1.456V PC - Onepagebook XS
3500+ CBBLE 0512DPAW - 2750 MHZ 1.660V AIR - mcbarnet007 XS
3800+ CBBLE 0507DPAW - 2906 MHZ 1.360V PC - Cranox XS

3200+ CBBLE 0504EPAW - 2800 MHZ 1.520V AIR - Kane XS
3500+ CBBLE 0504EPAW - 3003 MHZ 1.480V PC - TodB XS
3000+ LBBLE 0517EPAW - 2700 MHZ 1.475V AIR - SoboL XS - FreeZone QC-80 CU - http://www.esc.pl/index.php - prime stable
3000+ LBBLE 0517EPAW - 2925 MHZ 1.522V AIR - Vosh tweak.pl - 12 h prime stable , Freezer64 + AS5 , BEST CPU IVE SEEN
3000+ LBBLE 0517EPAW - 2961 MHZ 1.616V AIR - Vosh tweak.pl - 12 h prime stable , Freezer64 + AS5 , BEST CPU IVE SEEN
3000+ LBBLE 0517EPAW - 2781 MHZ 1.480V AIR - Pure tweak.pl - stock cooler , prime stable
3000+ LBBLE 0517EPAW - 2942 MHZ 1.580V H2O - wampir XS - SuperPI 16 M stable
3000+ LBBLE 0516EPAW - 2700 MHZ 1.552V AIR - SDX XS - XP120 + FAN , prime stable
3500+ LBBLE 0515FPAW - 2850 MHZ 1.648V AIR - Joe Camel XS
3500+ LBBLE 0515FPAW - 2750 MHZ 1.440V AIR - Tibu XS
3500+ LBBLE 0515FPAW - 2900 MHZ 1.648V AIR - Tibu XS

3800+ LBBLE 0515GPAW - 2856 MHZ 1.488V H2O - Jaco XS - 14h prime stable
3000+ LBBLE 0516GPAW - 2754 MHZ 1.504V ??? - Trevor XS - prime stable

3000+ LBBLE 1516EPHW - 2700 MHZ 1.536V AIR - MassiveOverkill amdforums

3200+ LBBLE 0517BPEW - 2845 MHZ 1.376V H2O - Fintas-XP XS
3200+ LBBLE 0517BPEW - 2800 MHZ 1.560V AIR - KamE38 XS - stock cooler stable

3200+ LBBLE 0516EPEW - 2800 MHZ 1.616V AIR - vapb400 XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPEW - 2700 MHZ 1.700V AIR - Deus Falsus XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPEW - 2650 MHZ 1.584V AIR - dnottis XS


3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2700 MHZ 1.664V AIR - HousERaT XS
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2765 MHZ 1.744V AIR - trans am XS
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2700 MHZ 1.750V AIR - clockedOut XS - NOT STABLE
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2700 MHZ 1.488V AIR - stang8118 Ocforums
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2808 MHZ 1.664V AIR - stang8118 Ocforums
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2610 MHZ 1.568V AIR - patrck17 Ocforums
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2475 MHZ 1.472V AIR - JDizzle Ocforums
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2700 MHZ 1.400V H2O - Craptacualr Ocforums
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2765 MHZ 1.648V AIR - TheMeatFrog XS
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2450 MHZ 1.520V AIR - Geforce4ti4200 XS - 2500 NOT STABLE
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2610 MHZ 1.488V AIR - shiznit93 XS
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2700 MHZ 1.552V H2O - ociadotnet XS
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2600 MHZ 1.632V H20 - bmaffin13 XS - 12+ Hours prime stable
3800+ CBBLE 0513CPBW - 2750 MHZ 1.500V AIR - Seriola XS - stock cooler - prime stable 5h
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPBW - 2630 MHZ 1.536V AIR - Skratch XS - stock cooler

3000+ CBBLE 0512DPBW - 2901 MHZ 1.680V H2O - mongoled XS
3000+ CBBLE 0512DPBW - 2916 MHZ 1.664V H2O - Jimbo Mahoney XS
3000+ CBBLE 0512DPBW - 2922 MHZ 1.580V AIR - Torman XS - stock cooler
3000+ CBBLE 0512DPBW - 2826 MHZ 1.500V H2O - xpr-k XS

3000+ LBBLE 0516EPBW - 2160 MHZ 1.400V AIR - PURE TWEAK.PL - EXTREME BAD
3000+ LBBLE 0516EPBW - 2860 MHZ 1.730V H2O - Yotomeczek TEAK.PL
3000+ LBBLE 0516EPBW - 2806 MHZ 1.600V H2O - Yotomeczek TEAK.PL

3200+ LBBLE 0515FPBW - 27500 MHZ 1.450V ??? - oasked XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515FPBW - 2700 MHZ 1.408V AIR - Techwarrior XS - 24 h prime stable , XP-90 + FAN
3200+ LBBLE 0515FPBW - 2800 MHZ 1.552V AIR - Techwarrior XS - 24 h prime stable , XP-90 + FAN
3500+ LBBLE 0515FPBW - 2972 MHZ 1.648V AIR - charlie XS - Hyper6 , bought from monarch

3000+ LBBLE 0516GPBW - 2808 MHZ 1.552V H2O - arj XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515GPBW - 2800 MHZ 1.392V H2O - H2OGun XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515GPBW - 3000 MHZ 1.600V H2O - H2OGun XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515GPBW - 2700 MHZ 1.450V AIR - bonzer XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515GPBW - 2929 MHZ 1.664V AIR - PcCI2iminal XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515GPBW - 2700 MHZ 1.328V ??? - leotonch XS - prime stable

3000+ LBBLE 0516CPCW - 2610 MHZ 1.650V AIR - KamE38 XS - stock cooler stable
3000+ LBBLE 0516CPCW - 2600 MHZ 1.550V AIR - Vroom - from Trend4PC.de XS
3800+ LBBLE 0516CPCW - 2751 MHZ 1.460V H2O - Computersmsa Bel-Hardware.be

3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2840 MHZ 1.660V ??? - TheMeatFrog XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2763 MHZ 1.664V AIR - politenessman XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2808 MHZ 1.580V AIR - Rubescen XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2670 MHZ 1.700V AIR - Deus Falsus XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2500 MHZ 1.550V AIR - Dermen Ocforums
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2700 MHZ 1.456V AIR - Ziku TWEAK.PL
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2700 MHZ 1.504V AIR - 4X4N XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2800 MHZ 1.696V AIR - Wayway XS
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2670 MHZ 1.700V AIR - Deus Falsus amdforums
3200+ LBBLE 0516EPGW - 2700 MHZ 1.568V H2O - aMp XS
3200+ LBBLE 0515EPGW - 2800 MHZ 1.504V ??? - daddy_fizz XS - prime stable 2h

3800+ CBBLE 0513CPDW - 2950 MHZ 1.664V ??? - kamui XS
3800+ CBBLE 0513CPDW - 2929 MHZ 1.650V H2O - xxmartin XS
3800+ CBBLE 0513CPDW - 2700 MHZ 1.360V PC - spiritedandy Ocforums

3000+ LBBLE 0515FPDW - 2845 MHZ 1.530V AIR - sinsinking XS - Hyper6
3000+ LBBLE 0512FPDW - 2700 MHZ 1.480V ??? - SillySider03 - prime stable

3000+ LBBLE 0516DPMW - 2712 MHZ 1.536V H2O - zwierzak24dg TWEAK.PL
3000+ LBBLE 0516DPMW - 2627 MHZ 1.536V ???? - zwierzak24dg TWEAK.PL
3000+ LBBLE 0516DPMW - 2745 MHZ 1.550V AIR - VerB TWEAK.PL
3000+ LBBLE 0516DPMW - 2844 MHZ 1.648V H2O - Mardok TWEAK.PL
3500+ LBBLE 0516DPMW - 2700 MHz 1.550V H2O - Sillen XS

3000+ LBBLE 0517EPMW - 2700 MHZ 1.376V AIR - qk4722 XS - prime stable
3800+ CBBLE 0504EPMW - 3306 MHZ 1.664V PC - s7e9h3n , Mach2

3000+ LBBLE 0515FPMW - 2808 MHZ 1.600V AIR - askimo XS

3000+ LBBLE 0516EPKW - 2700 MHZ 1.696V AIR - Cornelious0_0 XS

3200+ LBBLE 0517BPDW - 3201 MHZ 1.608V DICE - Dj_Rudy XS - stable ??

3000+ LBBLE 0516DPJW - 2800 MHZ 1.568V AIR - UCmajewski XS - stock cooler

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post Mar 22 2005, 09:01 PM

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prime stable?? have to wait later lar biggrin.gif

ok i'll get to work on it
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post Mar 22 2005, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Mar 22 2005, 08:32 PM)
Hi PCcrazy, good of you to open such a thread rather than waiting for someone else thumbup.gif

Perhaps you could specify a specific number of hours and running what test to qualify for the ranking? Just thought that it might be clearer that way and avoid confusion later on. smile.gif
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thanks De_Cruelz

Like ive mentioned before. A full screen test (like what ive did) or up to 3 hrs prime test.
There is no need to prime stable in order to be in the ranks. But i will not mentioned in ur ranks that the clock speed is prime stable.
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post Mar 22 2005, 09:53 PM

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it's better to give the stepping of the the processor also.
i'll post mine after 'priming' tongue.gif
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post Mar 22 2005, 09:58 PM

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Gee thanks sukhoi. But i forgot the stepping and lazy to reseat the hsf back. Maybe next time i edit mine.
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post Mar 22 2005, 10:30 PM

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pccrazy edit on 1st page to ask them to provide the stepping and production date of proc too, so u wont have to ask each of them. i will submit mine later still looking for the highest mine stable huhu.still not satisfied with 2.4 hehe.
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post Mar 22 2005, 11:06 PM

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Okay. For those who have the stepping information pls included with ur results for easy reference.
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post Mar 22 2005, 11:19 PM

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bro at those settings i can't prime... prime not stable and i'm almost breaching 1.9V sweat.gif

so i'll leave it to u to either wanna take it out or not mellow.gif
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post Mar 22 2005, 11:29 PM

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I will not take it out. But i put it @ benchable category instead.
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post Mar 22 2005, 11:32 PM

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ok u the boss bro thumbup.gif

btw i'll try to get the highest prime stable clock and i'll post here smile.gif
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post Mar 23 2005, 12:03 AM

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Thanks for the support jslut. Looking forward to your best clock speed @ prime stable.
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i tried to post my screenies of 2.7ghz but somehow i cant attach it...
hmm nvr mnd, let me try to improve my cooling 1st and hopefully manage to hit 2.75/ 2.8ghz biggrin.gif
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new results..

2610 Mhz @ 1.6v

and

2620 Mhz @ 1.65v

and....fail prime after an hour @ 2630 Mhz @ 1.65v...
going for 1.7v this time for 2630 Mhz..

it looks like my target of 2650 mhz is pretty hard to reach at safe vcore..
my prediction is I need 1.80 - 1.85 to reach 2650. my winnie is average clocker to say the least..

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here is mine at

2450Mhz 245*10 @
1.6Vcore @
aircooled @
idle 42 load 55 sweat.gif

my newcastle 754 get's heat up easily especially during load.

sorry din run prime test as i heard running stress test it self might shorten the life of the cpu. i highly doubt my cpu can be prime stable at this speed.

currently running 24/7 on

2080Mhz 260*8 ( stock speed ) @
1.43Vcore ( below stock ) @
aircool @
idle 36 load 45

jz a suggestion to Pc_Crazy maybe it would be good to include the idle and load temp for the current ( benching or priming ) system they are on. Jz my 2 cent.

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juz a question before i post my results...i wont be doing the priming thing...is folding considered as stressing the cpu? consider it as priming?
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Ur suggestion to include temp is good. But since many mobos temp monitoring system are not reliable, i dun think it is necessary. However u can submit it with ur results jus for reference but to put in the rankings together really is not necessary.

neway thanks for the suggestion.

btw, shadow, running prime will not hurt the proc, that, I can guarantee you. Unless provided you are running out of spec vcore and temp. 1.7v and 60 degrees below is a safe bet on AMD64.
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here's mine.
quite low if compare to those sifus, but....it's on a SFF platform(Shuttle SN95G5) biggrin.gif
air-cooling, stepping...forgot to write down when i reapply the AS5. doh.gif

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I belive there is a lot more to offer if u r on neo2...
Neway great clock on SFF..... thumbup.gif
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possibly the rams or the proc's memory controller. some amd64 cant go high becoz of the limitations on the mem controller, but it's really only common in 754, not 939. rezz, have u tried using the bios instead of the corecenter?

anyway nice of PCcrazy to start this thread.
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 23 2005, 12:12 PM)
I belive there is a lot more to offer if u r on neo2...
Neway great clock on SFF..... thumbup.gif
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Need it urgently. Nice OC ability.
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Errr.... Sempron S754 can join?

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Mar 23 2005, 03:18 PM)

anyway nice of PCcrazy to start this thread.
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Thanks for the support guys notworthy.gif

@ soulfly...if there are many sempron users around here, of cos...why not...

Quote evilhommura:

Can u post yr stepping info??
Need it urgently. Nice OC ability.;

Ok...next time dude...i have a lot to do right now..

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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Mar 23 2005, 04:18 PM)
possibly the rams or the proc's memory controller. some amd64 cant go high becoz of the limitations on the mem controller, but it's really only common in 754, not 939. rezz, have u tried using the bios instead of the corecenter?

anyway nice of PCcrazy to start this thread.
i already set in bios to max vcore, but when it load to windows it only gives around 1.63vcore. while to boot to 2.55 also it only able to boot, not stable, so if i boot to 2.55, i have to enter corecenter to increase vcore then only can stable. so i cannot boot in 2.6 since it need more vcore which cannot achieve that vcore in bios.

maybe i'll try bios ver1.37 or 1.36 i heard it can increase vcore to 1.9v in bios. now using bios 1.41 (standard from mo mobo, never flash it)
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1.36b has a working 15% and 18.3% CPU VID...if u need high vcore, this BIOS is a must to u..However 1.41mod gives higher clock speed in my case...
Mind u, it only applies to me..Every different board is quite different in a way they behave..
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QUOTE(rezzz @ Mar 23 2005, 09:03 PM)
i already set in bios to max vcore, but when it load to windows it only gives around 1.63vcore. while to boot to 2.55 also it only able to boot, not stable, so if i boot to 2.55, i have to enter corecenter to increase vcore then only can stable.  so i cannot boot in 2.6 since it need more vcore which cannot achieve that vcore in bios.

maybe i'll try bios ver1.37 or 1.36 i heard it can increase vcore to 1.9v in bios. now using bios 1.41 (standard from mo mobo, never flash it)
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the 1.9v (1.85v overvolted) can only be set within windows via corecenter. Max from the BIOS is 1.76 sad.gif

last time i used bios 1.2 just because i wanted 1.8x to boot windows... There is always clockgen... smile.gif you can raise ur volts thre corecenter then raise some FSB.. smile.gif
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@ neuvas...

new toy "A64 3500+ NewHammer @ 250x11"?
care to post some screenies...2750Mhz? Damn..Is that prime stable?
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no time to prime yet...

did a preliminary 1 hour 2.70GHz @ 1.7v.. wanna go further after my xm and project submission... smile.gif

now running at a 2.75GHz at a lower voltage, no problems... YET.. smile.gif

want to settle my RAM first..
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wat ram u gonna buy bro??

btw does the 1.9V affects all amd64 mobo?? coz i tried to set 1.9V once and my mobo just died... good thing can bios reset, works perfectly after that sweat.gif
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I only use the 1.9v for benches most of the time like now, running 1.65v to 1.7v only... sayang procc laaa... tongue.gif
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highest vcore i tried was 1.876V tongue.gif

although i couldn't break 300*9 so i don't know what's wrong.. don't think it's the heat though since never got above 45C
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Well some board jus plain sux..my Neo2 wouldnt boot with anything above 300htt..
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QUOTE(irenic @ Mar 24 2005, 12:43 AM)
2.7ghz

using xp90 + tornado 90mm
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nice clock speed...i feel that urs got a lot more potential, show it man..
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mine ...

benchable.... flex.gif
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 24 2005, 01:38 AM)
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nice clock speed...i feel that urs got a lot more potential, show it man..
Newcastle leading the way now..

so far..this is mine...bootable...
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maybe my cpu has alot more potential.. but i dun have much skills .. laugh.gif

2.75ghz at 1.63vcore.. manage to do sandra, everest, super PI.. but failed small fft test after 10secs doh.gif
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What is the highest benchable clock speed irenic?
im assuming it is looking easy to bench @ 2.8 Ghz
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prime stable.... [sorry, forgot where i put the prime pics sweat.gif ]
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benchable... [see the htt brows.gif ]
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btw, why is my stepping in the list? shocking.gif
mine cbbgd 0440 ...
izzit that worse , not even listed? shocking.gif
n my friggin rams is holding me back vmad.gif

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e-jump, i know that u r not cheating on the prime stable clock speed..
But i have to be consistent with the rules..In order for ur clock speed to
be recognized u need to include at least 3 hrs prime screenshot or full screen test passed..im really sorry, but sometimes that's the way it goes..

Bout the stepping, i think not all steppings are there..
btw thanks for participating....

Anyway, time to raise some voltage e-jump, psyche up a bit dude..
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Playing with my precious...

i got another 10 Mhz bump benchable...
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// PCcrazy :
really crazy oc-ing jo... broke 2.8GHz there... thumbup.gif
saw any smoke came out from your proc?? laugh.gif laugh.gif
what vcore you using???

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Nah...i saw no smoke..but a bit of fire sweat.gif
Im using 1.75 vcore to get that result..recently i manage to broke 2850Mhz,
print the screen, but im so clumsy that i accidentally delete it....(actually want to delete my previous record, but then, i dunno somehow i delete the recent one doh.gif )..

@ Evo, hows ur new rig...care to post some pics or result...i love to see it..
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oww.. you got a gemm over there... thumbup.gif

my rig currently down due rma-ing vga card [overheat casue artifact issue] sleep.gif"
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i'd suggest the ranking is done based on % of oc...e.g.
pccrazy --
rated: 2000Mhz
oced:2610
% oced:610/2000 => 30.5%
So...the oced achieved: 30.5%
just my suggestion...
now...going for the oc and getting the screenies

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Ok guys, already received my SLi-DR thumbup.gif
Hopefully the proc will arrive Weds or Thurs and I can have a nice long weekend of overclocking goodness! Wait for my results wink.gif
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QUOTE(remysix @ Mar 27 2005, 12:53 AM)
i'd suggest the ranking is done based on % of oc...e.g.
pccrazy --
rated: 2000Mhz
oced:2610
% oced:610/2000 => 30.5%
So...the oced achieved: 30.5%
just my suggestion...
now...going for the oc and getting the screenies
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If I do that, it's not fair to those who got high end proc...Because typically amd proc does max out around 2.5 - 2.8 regardless whatever type u own...
I've seen 3000+ do more than 2.7 and I've seen 3500+ unable to do 2.7.
Reason being, it has reached the threshold value...
The difference between 3000+ and 3200+ is that, it is guaranteed to run @ that speed with stock vcore, and one more thing, superior proc got a step of multiplier given...unless u own fx-55..


QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Mar 27 2005, 07:11 AM)
Ok guys, already received my SLi-DR thumbup.gif
Hopefully the proc will arrive Weds or Thurs and I can have a nice long weekend of overclocking goodness! Wait for my results wink.gif
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FX-55? flex.gif
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my 24/7 rig on XP90. prime for 6 hours, no error.

Vcore: 1.575v, Vdimm:2.70v.

I'll try to boost up more later when i am free. smile.gif

edit: on s754 Abit KV8pro rev1.1
edit2: typo

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snoy may i know wat ram you are using ?

jz curious.
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QUOTE(shadow_dweller @ Mar 27 2005, 05:44 PM)
snoy may i know wat ram you are using ?

jz curious.
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KVR hynix dt-d43. smile.gif
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 27 2005, 10:58 AM)
drool.gif
FX-55?  flex.gif
Haha no la. I wish I could get one though hehe! The proc i'll be getting is one of the new 3500+ CAA2C's wink.gif
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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Mar 27 2005, 06:45 PM)
Haha no la. I wish I could get one though hehe! The proc i'll be getting is one of the new 3500+ CAA2C's wink.gif
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good luck then~! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Snoy @ Mar 27 2005, 05:29 PM)
my 24/7 rig on XP90. prime for 6 hours, no error.

Vcore: 1.575v, Vdd:2.70v.

I'll try to boost up more later when i am free. smile.gif

edit: on s754 Abit KV8pro rev1.1
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just want to correct, your vdd is 1.55v

it's your vdimm which is 2.7v
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 27 2005, 08:48 PM)
just want to correct, your vdd is 1.55v

it's your vdimm which is 2.7v
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yup... typo error... vdimm is corrected. Thanx:)

my vdd is 1.575v but not 1.55v.
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here's mine. lousy proc!!!
PCcrazy lend me ur proc...hehe.
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QUOTE(irenic @ Mar 27 2005, 08:45 PM)
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What is ur highest benchable speed?
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QUOTE(irenic @ Mar 27 2005, 10:45 PM)
good luck then~!  thumbup.gif
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Thanks bro!

I'll be getting confirmed stepping which is 0505 APMW smile.gif. Tomorrow everyone in Australia start working so hopefully can get it on Wednesday or Thursday. I wonder how high can it go on stock cooling though tongue.gif

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What is the higest overclocked speed for 3200+ and 3000+??
Highest Vcore using stock cooler??
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QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Mar 28 2005, 05:52 PM)
What is the higest overclocked speed for 3200+ and 3000+??
Highest Vcore using stock cooler??
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there is no such thing as highest...it all depands on your processor batch, mobo type, type of ram and etc etc...
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highest?
i think 3000 goes faster than 3200..
try check at vr-zone.com brows.gif
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this is my benchmarkable clock. pass super pi.
2.5 at 1.7vid.

btw if it pass 3dmark01, 03 and 05 can assume benchmarkable or not.
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That is consider benchable bro...i think passing superPI is a lot easier than passing 3dmark..or im wrong...
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lol... i post again.. now prime already.. but its only 2.4G
using cheapo kvr ram. not D43 or BT-J, just cheap ram from pc fair.. keke... tongue.gif

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i've read at xtremesystems or ocforums (can't remember doh.gif ) that passing 32M super pi means ur system quite stable already... there's a thread for posting 32M results at one of those forums
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how long will it take to pass 32M super pi?
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my rig at settings 280*9 can finish 24 iterations in roughly 32 min sweat.gif
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 28 2005, 02:12 PM)
What is ur highest benchable speed?
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last time i stopped at 2.75ghz.. but i found some improvement in my processor.. last time 2.6ghz needed 1.52vcore. but now i just passed primetest for 13hrs @1.48vcore...

full load temp at 56C biggrin.gif
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@ Irenic..
if u can mantain the temp below 48 degrees..u will get an increase of 50Mhz...it does apply to me though..
nevertheless, seeing 56 degrees, i doubt it..it looks like wc is the way to go dude..
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i just wondering...the temp you guys mentioned is taken from which reading? BIOS? Smartguardian?or external probe?...coz my BIOS reading and Smartguardian reading totally different...by about 10C...normal load reported 35-37C...BIOS...hahhaa...always got the delta at full speed...which is set to run at that speed with 50c threshold...damn hot la...already used the as5...followed the instruction...so back to my question...which reading do u use?
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My reading is from Corecenter provided by MSI...actually reading from windows..
We know that the temp is not that accurate..but my BIOS and Corecenter reading is about the same..

Maybe you should try downloding the latest smartguardian...

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@ evo...can u include superPI 1M benchies together with ur screenie...its in the rules dude... biggrin.gif sorry


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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 29 2005, 07:06 AM)
@ Irenic..
if u can mantain the temp below 48 degrees..u will get an increase of 50Mhz...it does apply to me though..
nevertheless, seeing 56 degrees, i doubt it..it looks like wc is the way to go dude..
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wc .. any suggestion what wc shold i use? smile.gif
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Actually im still learning my way..so its better for u to ask sifus around..im not entitled for any opinions..scare later it will troubled u..

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 29 2005, 11:52 AM)
Actually im still learning my way..so its better for u to ask sifus around..im not entitled for any opinions..scare later it will troubled u..
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i already talked with a few people bout wc.. and most of them suggest me to buy the items separately.. erm DIY wc unsure.gif

but then when i think back, my v1000b is too small to keep the radiator / pump inside it.. and if i put outside, i cant close my side panel unless i mod my casing sweat.gif

do u know any performance but not so expensive ready made wc? thumbup.gif
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IMO, its better to buy parts by parts so that u can get the best performing wc system for ur rig..why not spend a bit more on ur wc setup..its good investment btw..

I heard about cheap TT Big Water, but the performance really poor..u wouldnt want to invest in rm300++ but end up something similar to high end air cooling..

bout the casing stuff---very rare to see people on wc had their casing closed.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 29 2005, 12:11 PM)
IMO, its better to buy parts by parts so that u can get the best performing wc system for ur rig..why not spend a bit more on ur wc setup..its good investment btw..

I heard about cheap TT Big Water, but the performance really poor..u wouldnt want to invest in rm300++ but end up something similar to high end air cooling..

bout the casing stuff---very rare to see people on wc had their casing closed.. laugh.gif
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hmm i guess some brand like corsair has ready made wc rite? and if we're using them, we can closed the side panel thumbup.gif
but not sure bout the performance n price unsure.gif

TT bigwater? nah... dunwan la.. my friend is using it and his amd64 3200+ temp is 49 compare to my friend with similar setup but using stock amd64 hsf, his temp only 45C doh.gif
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Actually ive been reading tomshardware for ready made wc made by some company (dun remember)...the performance was terrible...out of maybe 10 if im not mistaken, only two or three were recommended..and those gonna cost u an arm and leg..
finding a good wc is easy., but to know whether u r paying the true value is a prety difficult affairs.

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 29 2005, 12:29 PM)
Actually ive been reading  tomshardware for ready made wc made by some company (dun remember)...the performance was terrible...out of maybe 10 if im not mistaken, only two or three were recommended..and those gonna cost u an arm and leg..
finding a good wc is easy., but to know whether u r paying the true value is a prety difficult affairs.
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hmm if like that..maybe no other choice but have to stick with air cooling laugh.gif
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Irenic, now im still a student...so i dun have a fix income..
atm wc is a big no no... actually i can afford one.. but im not wasting my money all for my interest in pc..
If i have a fix income----i want the best wc rig that money could buy.. flex.gif
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 29 2005, 07:34 AM)
My reading is from Corecenter provided by MSI...actually reading from windows..
We know that the temp is not that accurate..but my BIOS and Corecenter reading is about the same..

Maybe you should try downloding the latest smartguardian...
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used the latest already...i think...anyway...stumble across a forum and this fella recommend to use Speedfan...here's the link
...it sounds great...maybe will give it a try once got back...
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Got anyone know good stepping from year/week 05xx??

rzonealley, thanks for yr info on not purchasing 0503.
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That is the reason why this thread was brought in the first place..
But havent seen new winnies in action except for rzone's winnie..
Unless u r goin to get the new 3500+..c2aa something...(is newcastle)
its good i have to say...

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irenic@ there must be somthing wrong with ur hf bro, the temps too high... perhaps u should try other fans?? maybe get a 92mm fan??

currently i'm using nmb 92mm (instead of the screamer delta ff doh.gif ) and i'm still getting good temps... 43C - 44C at 2.5g
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 29 2005, 12:59 PM)
Irenic, now im still a student...so i dun have a fix income..
atm wc is a big no no... actually i can afford one.. but im not wasting my money all for my interest in pc..
If i have a fix income----i want the best wc rig that money could buy.. flex.gif
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same ere.. i'm also a student sad.gif

QUOTE(jslut @ Mar 29 2005, 04:50 PM)
irenic@ there must be somthing wrong with ur hf bro, the temps too high... perhaps u should try other fans?? maybe get a 92mm fan??

currently i'm using nmb 92mm (instead of the screamer delta ff doh.gif ) and i'm still getting good temps... 43C - 44C at 2.5g
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err my tornado also 92mm .. hmm... r u using the new 3500+ caa2c? last time my 3500+ newcastle also cooler than this.. 35C idle 44-46C load..
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Hmm... I see more off topic post then anything else here. If you guys want to discuss about some other things. Ill suggest you go to the respective topics and discuss there.
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@ prodigy, i heard that u got the fastest winnie here..care to post some screenies.. smile.gif . Furthermore love to see what winnies can do on wc setup like yours.. flex.gif 3500+ winnie? its rare.

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I just had a look at the frontpage, nice work PCcrazy! Looks like the list is populating nicely too smile.gif

Btw, anyone breached 2.8Ghz yet on a A64? Come on guys, Malaysia Boleh! thumbup.gif

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I just had a look at the frontpage, nice work PCcrazy! Looks like the list is populating nicely too smile.gif

Btw, anyone breached 2.8Ghz yet on a A64? Come on guys, Malaysia Boleh! thumbup.gif
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I can bench at 2.9Ghz but stable at around 2.75Ghz only biggrin.gif
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i'm stable at 2.5ghz but didnt save the prime screenshot.. gonna do it later smile.gif
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Oh yea arj! How can we forget about him??? Hehe tongue.gif

Post some results too dude! Btw, are those results based on your FX-55?
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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Mar 29 2005, 10:00 PM)
Oh yea arj! How can we forget about him??? Hehe tongue.gif

Post some results too dude! Btw, are those results based on your FX-55?
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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Mar 29 2005, 10:00 PM)
Oh yea arj! How can we forget about him??? Hehe tongue.gif

Post some results too dude! Btw, are those results based on your FX-55?
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I know what this dude is capable of pulling..
2.9 Ghz benchable---wow

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Geee, 2.67Ghz on stock cooling? That's just crazy man! Hopefully my 3500+ could do as good too with water cooling. Mine should be arriving on Thurs or Fri, just in time for the weekend smile.gif
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QUOTE(arj @ Mar 29 2005, 09:52 PM)
I can bench at 2.9Ghz but stable at around 2.75Ghz only biggrin.gif
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Same here, is impossible on Malaysia weather. But this does not stop us. Anyway I'm not valid to post my results here futhermore. Since those clock speed are for benches only.
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@prodigy, There is a category for benchable clock speed (PI screenshot will do as a proof)..

@ De_cruelz, sydney is not that cold right, perhaps a few degrees cooler than Malaysia..but when its hot there, its hotter than Msia isnt it...so i guess u will be facing the same problem mate..

At stock cooling, the highest i manage is 2.57 Ghz prime stable..more than that will fail prime instantly no matter what vcore applied..temp rise to more than 62 degrees when priming.
Hyper6 does manage to cool down my temp to less than 54degrees at full load..

And one more, if i add bootable clock speed, is it okay..
all we need is cpu-z verified screenshot..
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http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3770305

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=647073

link show mine can benchmark on 2.56 @285 fsbx9.
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PCcrazy, you're right about the weather being hotter in Malaysia but that's only during summer smile.gif. A hot day can go upto 41C which is very very hot and i've never experienced that kinda heat before in KL.

Now it's autumn in Sydney. So temps have dropped a lot and at the moment, my room ambient temp is 26C which is pretty cool. My 2600+ Mobile is currently idling at 33C and max load is 36C smile.gif

Can't wait till winter when ambient temps drop to single digit numbers biggrin.gif

EDIT: Btw, bootable screenie sounds good too! Just so we have a rough idea how much further their CPU's can go with better cooling and higher vcore's thumbup.gif

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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=139453&st=40#

Mine bootable....left one. POST 45

Guys...updated the front page...added bootable category..

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Niceee! Let the results roll in smile.gif

Gotta have to find some time to dismantle my water cooling system to temporarily power my SLI-DR. My 3500+ should be arriving tomorrow or Friday latest. Hopefully my modded Trueblue is sufficient to power it temporarily.
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my latest benchable & bootable speed .. 2.8ghz @1.66vcore

using xp90+ tornado 92mm .. no time to run prime yet..


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Strange though, ur highest bootable is benchable? u should able to boot higher than benchable speed..i can boot at 2.8 but didnt manage to bench though. The highest speed i manage to bench is 2.72 Ghz only.
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 31 2005, 03:44 AM)
Strange though, ur highest bootable is benchable? u should able to boot higher than benchable speed..i can boot at 2.8 but didnt manage to bench though. The highest speed i manage to bench is 2.72 Ghz only.
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i'll try again later.. rolleyes.gif

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AMD Athlon 64 S939 3000+ @ 267x9.0 1.6V Air Cooling.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8478935 (R9550 128mb 128bit Stock 250/400)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8478939 (R9550 128mb 128bit 305/400)
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U mentioned that u set the vcore at 1.6v, but then the screenie show that it is only 1.4v.. R u sure u give the exact vcore. Good news if the vcore is only at 1.4. That means there is more potential to be unleashed from that winnie. My winnie overclocks 100 Mhz more by raising the vcore to 1.6

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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Mar 30 2005, 02:38 PM)
PCcrazy, you're right about the weather being hotter in Malaysia but that's only during summer smile.gif. A hot day can go upto 41C which is very very hot and i've never experienced that kinda heat before in KL.

Now it's autumn in Sydney. So temps have dropped a lot and at the moment, my room ambient temp is 26C which is pretty cool. My 2600+ Mobile is currently idling at 33C and max load is 36C smile.gif

Can't wait till winter when ambient temps drop to single digit numbers biggrin.gif

EDIT: Btw, bootable screenie sounds good too! Just so we have a rough idea how much further their CPU's can go with better cooling and higher vcore's thumbup.gif
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here in miri, a typical hot day temp would be at least 40'C outside, because we're quite near to the sea. i still remember somewhere around august last year while having our drag race event, the temp was exceeding 50'C in the hot sunny afternoon! that was measured using Nokia 5210 sweat.gif

currently my room temperature is at 31'C with aircond and fan off, just windows opened sweat.gif

edit: sorry for being off-topic blush.gif

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According to tips and tricks at XS forum, when u want to overclock ur winnie, u have to disable cool and quiet. Thats why i never try enabling it.
Just now, im so bored to death that i play with cool and quiet setting. Guess what :

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it is stable..furthermore its cool..help preserve my proc longer and save electricity laugh.gif

So, i have to say this...AMD64 rocks... flex.gif


30 degrees idle...
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Wow, cool n quiet feature works while the system is overclocked too???

I'm guessing your overclock is 260X10 or higher multiplier but it automatically reduces the multiplier as close to 1Ghz for you(I read somewhere that 1Ghz is the lowest speed while in cool n quiet mode)?
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Oi.... get rid of the Cool n Quiet and install Folding! laugh.gif
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Not really 1ghz..actually the lowest it can go is x5 multi..
watever htt u apply will be multiply by x5 when idling.
im running 260 x 10.

Sorry boss...ok installing now..ooops running now..

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ur gC xde prob enable CnQ?
my gC crash lahh.. i donno why..

btw, here's my prime (i cant find where's prime with htt275/280 doh.gif )

n my highest bootable is on htt340x8 [post #43]

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The system is rock stable. But i did try higher HTT(285) with dividers plus CnQ enabled---the result is BSOD before the system boots into window. Yet to try 1:1 at high HTT.
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Mar 31 2005, 04:18 PM)
U mentioned that u set the vcore at 1.6v, but then the screenie show that it is only 1.4v.. R u sure u give the exact vcore. Good news if the vcore is only at 1.4. That means there is more potential to be unleashed from that winnie. My winnie overclocks 100 Mhz more by raising the vcore to 1.6
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Yes I am sure it is at 1.6Vcore my cpuz I think has a bug in monitoring the Vcore but my Abit Eq shows the correct Vcore. Thats y i posted the Abit Eq picture too.
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This is mine. I have a Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939 and amd64 3000+ winchester.. 2.3ghz is most i can get. 2.4 isn't stable anymore. Dont know why....only ran 2 1/2 hrs stress test...if it doesnt show error now dun think it will show after 3 hrs....? Using stock cooling and Corsair Value select 256x2. 580w PSU...

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here is my latest result on newcastle 754 3000+

262 * 9.5 = 2489Mhz

running at 1.525 * 1.10 = 1.6775 Vcore

original HSF @ air cooled.

my processor can't seem to reach 2.5Ghz no matter how much vcore i put in. maybe i've reach my processor limit. lousy proc i got here cry.gif

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Mar 31 2005, 09:22 PM)
This is mine. I have a Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939 and amd64 3000+ winchester.. 2.3ghz is most i can get. 2.4 isn't stable anymore. Dont know why....only ran 2 1/2 hrs stress test...if it doesnt show error now dun think it will show after 3 hrs....? Using stock cooling and Corsair Value select 245x2. 580w PSU...
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if want fast result either ur proc is stable or not try running small fft rather than
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btw can u stat what stebbing and batch ur proc is... maybe u get CBBID too like mine

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if want fast result either ur proc is stable or not try running small fft rather than
running blend.

btw can u stat what stebbing and batch ur proc is... maybe u get CBBID too like mine
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how to check those? wat CBBID???
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mine is CBBID also...
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Mar 31 2005, 11:10 PM)
how to  check those? wat CBBID???
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its printed on ur proc surface. must be u didnt see it though.
nvm if u didnt know urs. example for such things written there is

ADA3000 DIK4BI
CBBID 0503EPJW
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its just as reference so u can compare with others. if u got CBBID 0503 like mine
mostly people can clock up to 2.2-2.5max. unlike those people with older batch
number and stepping such as CBBHD 0445SPAW which can reach up to 2.7
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u might wanna refer to 1st page. at bottom of post #1.
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pordon bout my limited knowledge.
is it sempron using stepping such as CBBHD?

dont get the wrong idea CBBHD is a good stepping for 3000+/3200+
only. just refer to the table on 1st post n u'll see lots of people on CBBHD
can OC high. but CBBID works fine on 3500+.
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QUOTE(shadow_dweller @ Mar 31 2005, 10:32 PM)
here is my latest result on newcastle 754 3000+

262 * 9.5 = 2489Mhz

running at 1.525 * 1.10 = 1.6775 Vcore

original HSF @ air cooled.

my processor can't seem to reach 2.5Ghz no matter how much vcore i put in. maybe i've reach my processor limit. lousy proc i got here  cry.gif
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What is ur temp @ full load---2.5Ghz.
Suggest u try blowing a fan next to ur rig with casing open if its hot when priming. My proc results in 50 Mhz more when the temp reduce below 50degrees at full load. At stock 62 degrees full load. 12 degrees cooler result in 50 Mhz increment for me.
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guys needs opinion here,
have anyone encounter problem where ur cool n quite function
CANT be disabled. i noticed that i disabled both cool n quite setting in
bios and corecell i'm still having problem the fan throthling.
on idle my stock fan at 3.9K rpm and when temp reaching 47degres
the fan rotate at 4.9k.
i tried on all bioses that in case my bios have problem. currently on 1.41mod
before this i'm on 1.36mod. i also tried the latest one where i still having the
same problem.
help???
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Apr 1 2005, 03:12 AM)
pordon bout my limited knowledge.
is it sempron using stepping such as CBBHD?

dont get the wrong idea CBBHD is a good stepping for 3000+/3200+
only. just refer to the table on 1st post n u'll see lots of people on CBBHD
can OC high. but CBBID works fine on 3500+.
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Sempron Palermo seems to have similar stepping as Winchesters. There's one review from Xbit labs having CBBID for Sempron 2600+, easily cranked up to 300mhz htt clocking 2.5ghz.

I'm getting 3000+ version with 9x multi... but dunno yet what stepping will I get from dinster's bulk. Hope can get a good one to play with.
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What is ur temp @ full load---2.5Ghz


my full load temp is around 59-60 degree celsius.

personally i dun think it's temp prob my cpu can't push any higher. wonder wat is the average oc limit for a 754 3000+ i heard a number of ppl can push it pass the 2.5 barrier. but sadly mine cannot sad.gif(
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yo bro..
2489mhz is good wat...wanna try vcore 1.550 + 110%? tongue.gif
average i think is around 2.3~2.4...u shud be happy ur nearly reaching 2.5G
saw few ppl cant even get above 2.3G sweat.gif
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hey there addario !

haha actually i did tried once on 1.55 * 110 % but no difference also.

couldn't be push any higher. the processor jz stuck at 2450-2480Mhz.

it's benchable, stressable ( memtest ) at that speed but once you go above 2480 it it's not even bootable.

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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Apr 1 2005, 09:46 PM)
guys needs opinion here,
have anyone encounter problem where ur cool n quite function
CANT be disabled. i noticed that i disabled both cool n quite setting in
bios and corecell i'm still having problem the fan throthling.
on idle my stock fan at 3.9K rpm and when temp reaching 47degres
the fan rotate at 4.9k.
i tried on all bioses that in case my bios have problem. currently on 1.41mod
before this i'm on 1.36mod. i also tried the latest one where i still having the
same problem.
help???
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my mobo also got fan speed throttling.. [hotter temp, fan spin faster]
but IMO its not CnQ
CnQ is where ur proc will change speed by the changes of multiplier wink.gif
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QUOTE(e-jump @ Apr 2 2005, 11:05 AM)
my mobo also got fan speed throttling.. [hotter temp, fan spin faster]
but IMO its not CnQ
CnQ is where ur proc will change speed by the changes of multiplier wink.gif
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yeah true.
but not mine. I had the same board as rzone, but i dont have fan speed throtlling.
Maybe mine is the first rev of Neo2 while rzone got the latest one.

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Rzone i dont think there is anything wrong with the board though.
If u got everything working fine, then there is nothing to be afraid of. Passing prime and all those 3dmark scores u submit are the sign of nothing wrong with the mobo.
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Mr. Postman came with my proc on Friday morning. Sadly I wasn't home to receive it and by the time I got home it was 6pm sad.gif

Too bad I can't have the weekend overclocking my CAA2C. Also just sold off my modded and sleeved Antec Trueblue. When the CPU arrives on Monday can't test also as it will be sometime until I get a OCZ 600W Powerstream. Currently selling the rest of my parts over at OCAU forums smile.gif
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@De_Cruelz just be patient mate. Maybe the proc want to have warranty
for longer time b4 it came to ur hand. biggrin.gif
hope its a gem.

will update u guys later got my hand on one lousy proc again. but still hoping
for more biggrin.gif CBBID 0451MPM
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Result from new proc CBBID 0451MPM just done with my initial burn in with
SICK VOLTAGE. 1.76volt.




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Looks like its better than ur previous CBBID. Updated ur result as second attempt with another CBBID. Year 2004 proc seems quite good compared to the 2005 edition.

So r u using this now? or the previous CBBID?
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u can put it both for just a record and reference. but for permenantly i'm
using this CBBID 0451MPM.
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this is mine
amd 3200+@2.0ghz clawhammer socket 754
oc to 2.2ghz
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using ac freezer 64 dual fan setup
idle 31
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oc to 2.55ghz
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QUOTE(mazdagtr210 @ Apr 3 2005, 03:01 PM)
this is mine
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what's this?? didn't see anything in yr post.

What do u guyz think about the new Venice core??
Izzit good at OC?? 3200+ got Venice core or not??
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QUOTE(mazdagtr210 @ Apr 3 2005, 03:01 PM)
this is mine
amd 3200+@2.0ghz clawhammer socket 754
oc to  2.2ghz
512mb ram btd43
using ac freezer 64 dual fan setup
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oc to  2.55ghz
idle 32
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dude, wat mobo are u using?? and u using dtr?? i didn't know desktop clawhammers for 754 still around.. some more got 1mb cache
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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Apr 3 2005, 11:29 AM)
Result from new proc CBBID 0451MPM just done with my initial burn in with
SICK VOLTAGE. 1.76volt.
You're a daring man I tell you! 1.76vcore for a Winnie shocking.gif. Hope you can push higher speeds.

As for my CAA2C, I wouldn't be surprised if its able to do 2.8ghz prime stable. I've seen other 0505's and most seem to be pretty consistent thumbup.gif

Just got my paycheck today and hopefully after the check clears, I can get the 600W OCZ Powerstream laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jslut @ Apr 3 2005, 04:58 PM)
dude, wat mobo are u using?? and u using dtr?? i didn't know desktop clawhammers for 754 still around.. some more got 1mb cache
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no lah not dtr original desktop 64 with clawhammer thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(mazdagtr210 @ Apr 3 2005, 05:14 PM)
no lah not dtr original desktop 64 with clawhammer thumbup.gif
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original?? hmm, wat's the stepping?? i thought earlier clawhammers only got 512k cache sweat.gif
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or he means mobile? unsure.gif
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well from wat i can tell he said desktop mar sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jslut @ Apr 3 2005, 07:09 PM)
well from wat i can tell he said desktop mar sweat.gif
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yup desktop. dont want to open heatsink maaa to see stepping
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3200+ clawhammer (desktop) is 1mb cache
3000+ clawhammer (mobile/DTR) is 512kb cache

correct me if im wrong...

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QUOTE(Addario @ Apr 3 2005, 08:00 PM)
3200+ clawhammer (desktop) is 1mb cache
3000+ clawhammer (mobile/DTR) is 512kb cache

correct me if im wrong...
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sorry bro but a bit rong there... there are dtr 3000+ that has 1mb cache. like mine tongue.gif
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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Apr 3 2005, 05:09 PM)
You're a daring man I tell you! 1.76vcore for a Winnie shocking.gif. Hope you can push higher speeds.

As for my CAA2C, I wouldn't be surprised if its able to do 2.8ghz prime stable. I've seen other 0505's and most seem to be pretty consistent thumbup.gif

Just got my paycheck today and hopefully after the check clears, I can get the 600W OCZ Powerstream  laugh.gif
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actually the proc can prime stable at 1.65vcore @ 2.5G but since i want to do
burn in a bit i just hit the vcore as max as i could in hoping the chip can reach
high clock with low vcore.

very nice CAA2C u got there. 2.8 prime stable is like dream come true to me.
600W OCZ Powerstream drool.gif drool.gif notworthy.gif
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Hehe 2.8Ghz prime stable is just what i've generalized from other 0505 owners. Well I guess we'll find out soon enough after I get the CAA2C from the post office tomorrow and hopefully the 600W OCZ Powerstream if its available in my area wink.gif
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@jslut
ooo...there is? hehe didnt know abt dat...mayb its DTR smile.gif
but mazdagtr's is 3200+ clawhammer juz like tampoi's proc that he is selling..
if im not mistaken..it lasted in the market for just a short time..later2 it was only 512kb proc that is available..
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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Apr 3 2005, 11:28 PM)
Hehe 2.8Ghz prime stable is just what i've generalized from other 0505 owners. Well I guess we'll find out soon enough after I get the CAA2C from the post office tomorrow and hopefully the 600W OCZ Powerstream if its available in my area wink.gif
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so how the result of the proc? it must be in ur hand today.
CAA2C 0505?
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Yea bro! smile.gif Just got the proc today and I had to drive for more than an hour both ways to collect it from the warehouse.

I also received my 1gb Twinmos from chinsc today smile.gif. Only thing lacking now is the PSU. Apparently there's none left in Australia and the next shipment in will be on the 11th. According to them only 25 units will be coming in sad.gif

Should I go for the Enermax 600W Noisetaker instead? Its about AUD120 cheaper!

EDIT: Here's the image of the proc also posted in the CAA2C thread here smile.gif

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mine...not much...but still working on it...mine is CBBID 0504MPMW...it's among the worst i'd guess...dunno why but the temp is killing it...


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whoaa .. remyx your temp is very very very high ...

you install your HSF properly or not ?
1.5vcore running at75 degree celsius it abnormal i think.




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yeah thats totally high in ur sig its on xp120 right?
mine at 1.76vcore+xp90 never reach 60degrees the higest is 58-59degrees.
there's s.thing wrong with ur cooling.

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QUOTE(remysix @ Apr 4 2005, 09:59 PM)
mine...not much...but still working on it...mine is CBBID 0504MPMW...it's among the worst i'd guess...dunno why but the temp is killing it...
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why dont u post the cpuz screenies together..so i can put it in the records..
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ok a bit of an improvement here i guess..

i think this is the highest i can go prime stable, anything higher thatn that i can't get prime stable.... but works fine with 3dmark and super pi sweat.gif


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uwaah very power oooo
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why dont u post the cpuz screenies together..so i can put it in the records..
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QUOTE(shadow_dweller @ Apr 4 2005, 10:15 PM)
whoaa .. remyx your temp is very very very high ...

you install your HSF properly or not ?
1.5vcore running at75 degree celsius it abnormal i think.
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dont think...it is abnormal...already take the hsf out and installed it again...as per the instruction...used as5...but still got this temp...looks like i have to take it out again...and installing the ram stick under the wing is damn troublesome...only once i got the temp to cool down, then can see how this proc can perform, even the stepping is not good...but who knows...
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only fsb seems power but the clock still not high tongue.gif
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did u touch the hs? hot?
maybe bios glitch..
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hs only warm but i'm thinking of sanding down a bit the xp90 bracket, mite get some better temps tongue.gif

problem is i can't get my ram to run over 305htt.... this one already maxed sweat.gif some more at 3.0 vdimm
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QUOTE(e-jump @ Apr 5 2005, 12:18 PM)
did u touch the hs? hot?
maybe bios glitch..
btw,pump it laa to 280++
i can even do 340x8 brows.gif
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that's the prob...the hsf doesnt seem to be hot...maybe something is wrong la when i tried to wrestle the hsf over the ram stick (DIMM4)...seems like there is micro gap between the hsf and proc...well back to the board again...
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is the stick too near to the proc?
u can use the other 2 slots rite...

btw jslut, try deviders laa... juz to see how hi the htt can go drool.gif
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nah, don't like using dividers much, only make my rig unstable sweat.gif

last time tried dividers, could reach up to 9*300 but never got it stable sweat.gif
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i think my ram cant handle those high fsb when put divider. i need a better
ram right now. dtd-43 not enuff for my system hehe seems like winnie
like those ram who can get a long with not the one left behind.
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rzonealley@ should've gotten tccds bro, dins was bulking quite a selection of them biggrin.gif

maybe next bulk smile.gif
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anyone here planning to get Venice core??
Is there Athlon64 3200+ with Venice core??
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anyone here planning to get Venice core??
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there is but it's only just been launched a few days ago so i don't think we'll be seeing them in our local market anytime soon
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QUOTE(jslut @ Apr 5 2005, 06:33 AM)
ok a bit of an improvement here i guess..

i think this is the highest i can go prime stable, anything higher thatn that i can't get prime stable.... but works fine with 3dmark and super pi sweat.gif
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bro update mine thumbup.gif

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is the stick too near to the proc?
u can use the other 2 slots rite...

btw jslut, try deviders laa... juz to see how hi the htt can go drool.gif
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ya...i can use the other 2 slots...but no dual channel la...btw...does dual channel plays important role like p4 system...
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i just found this thread and looking at u guys results makes me itchy to oc!!! biggrin.gif
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There's a new Palermo based on E3 revision, which is Venice brows.gif
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that one can take quite awhile to reach our shores bro, unless someone make a bulk biggrin.gif

but then again, it'll probably be sold out early coz seems everyone's itching to get them laugh.gif maybe get a turion tongue.gif
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i'm sure dinster can make it brows.gif

unluckily, i ordered too soon. looks like i'll be getting the D0 revision only
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how to check the memory controller is dead on winnie? i'm just curious seeing ppl with dead mem cntrler. just like to know what happen to the proc
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QUOTE(remysix @ Apr 5 2005, 10:04 PM)
ya...i can use the other 2 slots...but no dual channel la...btw...does dual channel plays important role like p4 system...
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Any free increment in performance is good..
Synthetic bencmark shows that DC has double data bandwith compared to single..
But this doesnt translates to 100% increase in total system performance.
But if i were u, will not bother running single when i have DC. smile.gif
Infact i never before try running on single. All those figures i come up with, is on DC all the time.


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finally...got my ram stick on DC...and the hsf alligned on the proc...but with some mod on the xp120...last time, cannot put the hsf flat on the proc...running DC alright, but the temp is suicidal...reached 80c on full load...due to the small gap between hsf and proc...but now ok already...temp is 34c at idle...full load around 40c@1.60v...
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full load at 40 degrees? u mean u prime with that temp?
ur xp is bloody effective then, ive seen xp120 not so effective, So i presume that delta really helps a lot.
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yup that damn cool man 40deg. mine with 1.58vcore full load is nearly reach 50. urs is 1.65 only 40?? guess xp120 really better than xp90.
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It shouldnt be waaay better than xp-90, Air-con room or lower ambient might be the reason..otherwise i dont see the temp is correct..
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just done my merely 5 hours prime on 260x9.0...the temp at full load is 44c degrees...picture capture...but i stop the prime then capture...already drop to 38c...very fast la this xp120 do its job...actually this xp120 is cacat a bit...i've already peeled off 2 of its fins to make way for my twinx pro on DC...but performance wise...still ok...trying to prime 265 now...and see how hi can my cbbid 0504 can do...wish me luck thumbup.gif

added: my room has no aircond...and it's very humid...i also cannot tahan stay in here for more than 5 minutes without the ceiling fan switched on...

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Any proc will quickly drop the temp regardless of any hsf applied..
thats why when u want to capture screenies make sure it is in the middle of priming..
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haha...that's the mistake...actually taken already and stopped the priming...but forgot to include the cpuz...so lauch the cpuz and capture again...replace the 1st one...btw...just finish the 265...temp is 46c-47c...that would be normal at full load huh...ok...going for 270 now...
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wow..45 is freakin cool
mine doing 275 last time on devider, it was 53C sweat.gif [stock HSF]
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with stock hsf, you'll get stock kinda temp la...if ur stock can do as good as my hsf...i'll be damn rugi buying this hsf tongue.gif

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mine at 250 fsb vcore 1.42v running 24/7, fan speed at 2700(so silent haha)
max temp 48. satisfied with my cooling too but that xp120 of remysix is damn cool. i only run at higher clock for benchies.
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48 is still good what...at 275...failed priming within minutes...need to pump in more juice i think...we'll do it shortly...now running at 270...idle at 33c...i think i'm gonna use this for my 24/7 since already primed it for 7 hours...hope can go higher considering the proc is cbbid 0504mpmw...300 would be impossible...at least not with air cooling...

/offtopic: rzone...if u ever wanna upgrade ur gfx...please let me know...i've one same as yours la...maybe can do sli...chipset is moddable...
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juz doing the comparison..
so others should get the idea of stock n upgraded HSF thumbup.gif

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in the middle of priming now...max temp is 49 with this maxthon running...if not, stays at 48...will post the result afterwards...
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what stepping should i look for AMD 64 2800+ / 3000+ for socket 754??? which shop in lyp sell the best one...
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asus@ maybe u should wait a bit get either a sempron with palermo core a turion mobile... but if i'm not mistaken u can get palermo in about a month's time...
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what bout the price? will it be cheaper or expensive compare to the AMD64 S754

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well this one is a bit hard to expect, but most probably the price should be almost the same or a bit more than current processor now...

since ur going for s754, choices for waiting can either be palermo(sempron) or mobile athlon (turion)... but most probablt turion will be a bit herder to obtain locally, so best bet is palermo..

if don't wanna wait, then a bit hard to say the steppin... but after 0447 should suffice and give good results IMO
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Benchable @ 2.75Ghz 1.7vcore....

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Nice results there PCcrazy! Keep pushing your CPU biggrin.gif
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haha. keep it up pc-crazy. go go go ...

erm .. but i think you forgot to include your cpu-z screenie tongue.gif
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yeah, but u can always count on sandra cpu benchies----12500++ must be in the region of 2.7 ++...sorry for missing cpu-z..later will update screenies..
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i think i need a better ram to oc summore. this cbbid 0451 didnt like my D43.

nicely done there bro.
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hey guys need opinion, is this stepping good, its AMD64 2800+ S754 AEP4AR CAA2C 0507FPCW
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Winnie 3000+ 2.5Ghz (278*9) @ 1.7V - Stock Cooling.

Now using Cool & Quiet:
Idle = 1.3Ghz (278*5) @ 1.2V
Load = 2.5Ghz (278*9) @ 1.6V

Prime Stable Voltage:
With Cool & Quiet - 1.6V
W/out Cool & Quiet - 1.7V

Notice the RAM frequency difference between idle (231) and load (227).

Weird, right?

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i still dont understand whats qool and quite, can someone explain...
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i still dont understand whats qool and quite, can someone explain...
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it's a feature which slows down your cpu by lowering the multiplier & voltage during light cpu load.

check this out: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Produc...5E10272,00.html
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arghh...mine stuck at 270...seems like the ram cannot take it anymore...hmmm...means i've to use the divider...
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QUOTE(Asus @ Apr 10 2005, 12:08 AM)
hey guys need opinion, is this stepping good, its AMD64 2800+ S754 AEP4AR CAA2C 0507FPCW
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how bout this stepping? good or not?
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Its caa2c..i know that caa2c on 939 is a great stepping. No idea about the 754. U have the proc in ur hand? if yes why not try give some reviews on it..
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 10 2005, 09:52 PM)
Its caa2c..i know that caa2c on 939 is a great stepping. No idea about the 754. U have the proc in ur hand? if yes why not try give some reviews on it..
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not enough money to buy yet la tongue.gif the proc is still at the shop biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Asus @ Apr 10 2005, 10:17 PM)
not enough money to buy yet la  tongue.gif  the proc is still at the shop  biggrin.gif
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if u still didnt buy it yet keep that money 1st. maybe u can gether funding for venice.
DAA4BP with CBBLE perhaps whistling.gif
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Got a few here.....
Click on each images for each dedicated reviews..... sweat.gif notworthy.gif

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nice austin.. but i thought the gigabyte dual core 6600gt can only run on gigabyte mobo?
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damn, amd64 mobile can go that high... some more C0 stepping only... i wish my proc can go that high cry.gif
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r u selling these or just for our information???
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wow..45 is freakin cool
mine doing 275 last time on devider, it was 53C sweat.gif [stock HSF]
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full load at 53c? must be joking larr. mine wif default setting(no OC) & using stock fan oledi 57c-58c in idle. after gaming(warcraft), bout 62c. doh.gif
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Wow, if only I owned that collection of CPU's! drool.gif

Nevermind, i'm contented with my CAA2C. PSU should be arriving tomorrow. Hopefully my 0505 is a good clocker!

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QUOTE(gengstapo2 @ Apr 11 2005, 01:30 PM)
full load at 53c? must be joking larr. mine wif default setting(no OC) & using stock fan oledi 57c-58c in idle. after gaming(warcraft), bout 62c.  doh.gif
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do u use as5???if yes...u should check ur hsf again...mine was 80c at full load...after checking...the hsf is somehow tilt a little bit, just enuff to make it shoot to 80c...now ok already...oc at 270x9.0 1:1...24/7...idle around 34-36c...max...around 45-46c...but mine is xp120...not stock hsf...but shouldnt be too far la...57-58 is way too hot for non OC system...btw...urs is winnie or the castle???
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Those heatspreader, i wonder if any of u guys not going to use it.
Its so tempting to peel it off, considering many XS forumers already benefited from the reduce temp.
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 12 2005, 02:48 AM)
Those heatspreader,  i wonder if any of u guys not going to use it.
Its so tempting to peel it off, considering many XS forumers already benefited from the reduce temp.
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after u bro tongue.gif
dunt wanna risk such a proc to gain few mhz or 100mhz. ihs if im not mistaken.
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Yup ihs they called it..
after me...okay dude, people dun call me crazy for nothing..
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damn rite dude...maybe u the 1st at lyn...so dont forget to post the result...
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how bout we join venture to do so. at my place or ur place.
either they will call it bangi winnie round-up or serdang winnie round-up
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woaaa...nice thinking...but u guys have to count me out...just got the winnie a month ma...btw...i thought PCcrazy is the only one that is 'crazy' biggrin.gif

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Finally got my OCZ 600W Powerstream today! Just plugged in everything and doing memtest to test my RAM first. Will post OC updates once I install WinXP tongue.gif
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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Apr 12 2005, 06:07 PM)
Finally got my OCZ 600W Powerstream today! Just plugged in everything and doing memtest to test my RAM first. Will post OC updates once I install WinXP tongue.gif
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wah finally..hopefully the result will makes ur waiting worth it...

btw, why in bios my +12v rail is 12.09v but smartguardian shows 11.83v only?

does windows use alot of power? hehe unsure.gif

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In WinXP I believe your system is under more load compared to BIOS. Also, software or onboard sensors aren't always accurate and is only best measured using a DMM smile.gif

Btw, here's a sneak peak for you fellas! Only preliminary results without any stability testing yet.

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260FSB 1:1 at 3.5Vdimm. This is the exact same pair I used when I was using my LPB NF2 and wouldn't even prime stable at 230FSB thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(gengstapo2 @ Apr 11 2005, 01:30 PM)
full load at 53c? must be joking larr. mine wif default setting(no OC) & using stock fan oledi 57c-58c in idle. after gaming(warcraft), bout 62c.  doh.gif
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nope.. no joke.. n i think u didnt put the hsf properly...

btw guys, i thought arj was the 1st to peel of the ihs, long tome ago [his winnie 3000+]
but he's unlucky coz no improvement

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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Apr 12 2005, 08:07 PM)
In WinXP I believe your system is under more load compared to BIOS. Also, software or onboard sensors aren't always accurate and is only best measured using a DMM smile.gif

Btw, here's a sneak peak for you fellas! Only preliminary results without any stability testing yet.

260FSB 1:1 at 3.5Vdimm. This is the exact same pair I used when I was using my LPB NF2 and wouldn't even prime stable at 230FSB thumbup.gif
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nicely done there i guess the sweetnes of waiting really worth it right?
show some stability then biggrin.gif
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Hehe those settings aren't stable at all. I took that screenie minutes after WinXP was installed hence no stability tests yet. I got 3 pairs of 1GB ram to play with now. BH5, BH6 and Twinmos UTT. So many sticks, so little time. smile.gif

Hopefully I can make 260FSB stable. Will post CPU OC screenie once I get it done.
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@DE_Cruelz Good Luck m8. Lend me those ram ler but i think the cost of u sending from syd. maybe cost a pair of good ram oledi tongue.gif

BTW guys venice will be launched near the corner according to ppl in XS its on 15thApril. but still how fast it can reach Msia???
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Thanks rzone! Sometimes I wish I were living in my KL house now haha! Can get people to help me burn in my ram too tongue.gif

Btw, might be selling my BH5 and BH6 soon to recoup some money. Hopefully can use that money to get a Digital SLR thumbup.gif

Re: Venice, probably sometime during May?
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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59236

official launch. but still as u said venice maybe arrive here on May.
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Attached Image Heya guys. really need ya help here. I'm a total noob in AMD OCing. Juz bought diz new rig less than a month. Yet, manage to play around wif d FSB to get 1.94Ghz. Attached my CPU-Z screenshot 2 act s a reference 4 u guys. Can sum1 actually help me in OCing diz rig? 1.94Ghz n CPU Temp is 47 Degress. Diz r sum of my primary question s a start.

1. How can we reach the 1:1 ratio? I mean how do we determine that?
2. How can others' AMD 64 3000+ reached multiplier @ X10 ? Mine only X9 wooo.
3. Is high voltage harmful 2 any component of the system?
4. Does all d OC adjustment being take place in Bios? or can I juz manipulate from Abit's OCGuru Software?

Realy need a sifoo in OCing. Lookin 4ward to u guys's replies....
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QUOTE(r4ydc24 @ Apr 13 2005, 08:56 AM)

1. How can we reach the 1:1 ratio? I mean how do we determine that?
2. How can others' AMD 64 3000+ reached multiplier @ X10 ? Mine only X9 wooo.
3. Is high voltage harmful 2 any component of the system?
4. Does all d OC adjustment being take place in Bios? or can I juz manipulate from Abit's OCGuru Software?

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1. 1:1 can be set in bios.. ie setting the cpu n ram both at 200 ..
2. multi x10 is for socket 754.. 939 only x9 [not sure bout newcastle]
3. yes..its harmful.. but some rams do like high V at high speed.. same goes to the proc..
4. correct, OC also can be done via s/w.. but s/w OC is for testing b4 setting it in bios wink.gif

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dang man, that's some very low temps drool.gif good job bro thumbup.gif

is the freezer that good, it seems can beat xp120
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dang man, that's some very low temps drool.gif good job bro thumbup.gif

is the freezer that good, it seems can beat xp120
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Not really that good with the stock fan...it's at least 8C higher at the same vcore/speeds.

Had to ghetto mount the Delta and this was done at an intake temp (probe near the cpu fan's intake) of 18C. Totally whack the aircon until the lowest reached temps.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Apr 13 2005, 03:48 PM)
Not really that good with the stock fan...it's at least 8C higher at the same vcore/speeds.

Had to ghetto mount the Delta and this was done at an intake temp (probe near the cpu fan's intake) of 18C. Totally whack the aircon until the lowest reached temps.
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but still, it's gotta quiute cool there to get that kinda temps. wat's the ambient temp room there??

i still have a long way to go to migrate to s939 doh.gif
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QUOTE(neuvas @ Apr 13 2005, 03:51 PM)
@sniper...

i see a coolergiant whistling.gif
i think u should be able to get 30s....
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Yeah...was shooting for that whole morning. The best is only 31.063 doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
Need to tweak the mem's more.

QUOTE(jslut @ Apr 13 2005, 04:03 PM)
but still, it's gotta quiute cool there to get that kinda temps. wat's the ambient temp room there??

i still have a long way to go to migrate to s939 doh.gif
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Didn't measure as its under aircon....so can safely assume about the same as the HSF intake temp of 18C

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that's cool man...with my xp120...idle at 37c...10c higher than urs...same voltage...but my room got no accond la...
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Wow, those are very very nice temps!! All of them below 30C drool.gif tongue.gif

18C ambient temps? You must have a powerful aircond then hehe!
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CBBHD 0447UPEW

Bench @ 2.7Ghz

Dun think it's primestable...never test
Wahlawwehh...

3000+ winnie....mine is CBBID 05 02 or 03 sumthin n end letter was PWJ or sumthin....juz bought 2 days ago... MSI Neo3 NF3 Ultra(hahahaha MSI lagik)....n 512mb KVR hynix dt-d43....210 rite now 1:1 all stocks...still prime'ing at home...dunno what happend...hahahaha...

Temp is 37 idle n 52 while prime....1.3v...mem 2.6v....

hope mine can o/c about 35 more HTT oso gud 4 me aledi...

Weh PCcrazy.....turun lah ilmu sket....rite now still use 1:1...see what the KVR is capable of.....hihihihi.... thumbup.gif
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Hey guys, about time I posted my results here:

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Running 245 2-2-2-8 with Twinmos SP at 3.5vdimm. Only been through one burn in session at 200 3.4vdimm. Need to burn in this sucker more before I get higher HTT biggrin.gif

EDIT: Did a few more tests later and swapped my Twinmos between the slots. Memtest is wayy much more stable. Here's a new screenie with 2.8Ghz! Btw, all results were achieved using the stock cooling. Temps shot up to 68-69C while doing 1M superpi.

Here it is:

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here is my latest result

2520Mhz bootable

on amd64 s754 newcastle 3000+ @ stock HSF

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nice...izzit 1:1...i'm still trying to pass the 270 barrier...
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hehe .. it's not 1T sadly ..

i was looking how far my proc can go.

teh ram timing was pretty loose. and it was on 2T

using cheapo KVR bt-d43 here tongue.gif

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@ antonio_zth
its just my luck that i got a good processor..i think urs r capable of pulling at least 2.3 Ghz based on my experience on CBBID year 05..
p/s: sorry for that HD problem--have no idea u r running on SATA 1 & 2 when u should have chosen 3 & 4..
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2.8 Ghz at 1.6 is nice man...bring some more results.the safe vcore for watercooling is around 1.85v i guess..show us the potential of that caa2c under watercooled system. U go man..

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 14 2005, 11:10 PM)
@ antonio_zth
its just my luck that i got a good processor..i think urs r capable of pulling at least 2.3 Ghz based on my experience on CBBID year 05..
p/s: sorry for that HD problem--have no idea u r running on SATA 1 & 2 when u should have chosen 3 & 4..
@De_Cruelz
2.8 Ghz at 1.6 is nice man...bring some more results.the safe vcore for watercooling is around 1.85v i guess..show us the potential of that caa2c under watercooled system. U go man..
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mine can run 270...cbbid 0504...but no more than that...already hitting the wall...trying to knock it down... thumbup.gif
btw...what's with SATA 1&2 and 3&4...didnt came across that...what's the prob??? blush.gif

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Actually its on MSI K8N Neo2 board...
AGP/PCI was not locked on SATA 1&2..but the lock works fine on 3&4..
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Thanks PCcrazy! I won't be water cooling the CPU yet until I can afford 2 X 6800GT's. After I get those cards then I will water cool CPU and the GPU's. For the time being I think I will only be doing benchmarks as the temps during load using stock cooling is almost touching 70C already! shocking.gif
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Thanks PCcrazy! I won't be water cooling the CPU yet until I can afford 2 X 6800GT's. After I get those cards then I will water cool CPU and the GPU's. For the time being I think I will only be doing benchmarks as the temps during load using stock cooling is almost touching 70C already! shocking.gif
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There's one name that you can trust.....

VANTEC TORNADO... One fan pwns all. biggrin.gif

ps: its sounding like an advert doesn't it? tongue.gif

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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif sweat.gif
damn..nice joke again... laugh.gif
btw 70 degrees sweat.gif I cant imagine the proc oc potential if u manage to make it below 40 degrees... notworthy.gif
U know what? always use the sniper method when all attempts to reduce the temp fails.

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i think it should be VANTEC TORNADO + any brand of DESK FAN the way i c it

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QUOTE(evildonkey @ Apr 15 2005, 12:50 AM)
i think it should be VANTEC TORNADO + any brand of DESK FAN the way i c it
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last time i'm using vantec tornado 92mm + xp90 and my temp was very high.. at 1.65 full load almost 70C
now using delta 120mm + xp120 the temp at 1.7v full load is 70C

damn this caa2c is very hot lor..
summore my hostel is very hot.. i'm now waiting for my holiday which is next week, hopefully in air condition room will make me able to reach 2.85ghz hehe
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Whoaaa, look at the size of that thing!!! I'm sure it really blows!!! tongue.gif tongue.gif

Hehehe, anyway jokes aside, I don't feel like pushing the proc much further on stock cooling. 70C is much too high for me when previosly my xp-m at 2.7Ghz load is only 36C! Oh well, back to the ram burner!
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yeap 70C is consider detrimental to the processor chip i read somewhere at amd webpage.

better lower your vcore or your processor life might be drastically shorten.

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Wahhh...i oso dunnow what happend...mebbe pci/agp lock didnt lock properly....btw hd is ok...file ok... alil bit of corruption only....weh PCcrazy...here are the screenie.....

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Winnie 3000+ x9 x4HTT 230HTT 1.5v(stock 1.4v)
temp:39c idle 52c while priming...

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still can push higher i guess...what's ur stepping...and week...temp at priming, better get it below 50c la...might hampered your plan to oc higher...
u r using clockgen ka...try tweaking the bios better la...
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antonio, go in bios, feed the rams 2.8-2.9vdimm, use 3-4-4-10 timing, set 1T command.. 1:1
n htt put 250..
make sure agp lock
winnie 3000+ kacang puteh aje achieve that with stock cooling wink.gif
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For CBBID, not kacang puteh to reach 250HTT, mine need to pump vcore as early as 240HTT. (x9 multiplier)
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I think some CPU's memory controller aren't as good as others. I've seen users running higher FSB's using the same ram but with a different CPU. The CAA2C Newcastles or Clawhammers have excellent memory controllers and usually increases max FSB by about 5FSB smile.gif
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yup...the cpu's mem controller is the culprit here...it's the 'wall' most people would referred to...the wall made by this controller...

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QUOTE(fr!tzz @ Apr 15 2005, 02:53 PM)
For CBBID, not kacang puteh to reach 250HTT, mine need to pump vcore as early as 240HTT. (x9 multiplier)
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based on my experience on two CBBID 250 is easily. but more than that take a lot of guts.
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Some toughts to share with u guys:
Actually this is taken from XS forum----by oc guru Charlie...

but I think P95 is useless. If a rig can do everything that it's required to do, it's STABLE. If you run a network of college 'puters researching the DNA sequence, that's ONE definition of stability, if yuo play doom3 that's another definition of stability.
From dictionary el-Charlie:
Stability= The ability to run reliably during a required task.
In fact, if all you do is stare at the desktop, a suicide screenshot IS 100% stable. If you're benching sPi, a completed run IS 100% stable.

True to certain extent... smile.gif
why do u need a stable pc for science calculation when u only need it for gaming
and do some works such as AutoCad and some video encoding?
So for those who always vmad.gif if their system is not prime stable--no worries.
But its always good to know that ur system is prime stable though..

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QUOTE(rzonealley @ Apr 15 2005, 07:15 PM)
based on my experience on two CBBID 250 is easily. but more than that take a lot of guts.
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guts got....money dun have....if blow can affod buy sempron second hand only... cry.gif
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 15 2005, 08:45 PM)
Some toughts to share with u guys:
Actually this is taken from XS forum----by oc guru Charlie...

but I think P95 is useless. If a rig can do everything that it's required to do, it's STABLE. If you run a network of college 'puters researching the DNA sequence, that's ONE definition of stability, if yuo play doom3 that's another definition of stability.
From dictionary el-Charlie:
Stability= The ability to run reliably during a required task.
In fact, if all you do is stare at the desktop, a suicide screenshot IS 100% stable. If you're benching sPi, a completed run IS 100% stable.

True to certain extent... smile.gif
why do u need a stable pc for science calculation when u only need it for gaming
and do some works such as AutoCad and some video encoding?
So for those who always  vmad.gif if their system is not prime stable--no worries.
But its always good to know that ur system is prime stable though..
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actually i second to that...it's only when people doing oc and said "my system is stable running at 3.5G"...they need some method to prove it to others...and the well accepted method is by using this P95...for personal use...stability should be based on what u r using la...

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One question for all the expert oc guru. If i ran cpu:ram asynch would it effect the performance compared to running sync.

On intel, there is bottlenecking effect i notice, on AMD64 is it the same?. I heard about the pros and cons of the mem controller,
I was looking for answers at XS and Hardforum, but couldnt find any. So here is the question, AMD64 has bottlenecking effects?
I would be really glad if somebody could enlightened me with these. I plan to get AMD64 3800+ but since i have a bad RAM might as well i used dividers-so im glad if anybody can help me.
If the effect is quite serious, i would think of getting 3200+ coupled with a good pair of RAM.
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Ive tried running with dividers, and gladly i can inform u that the effect is not significant. Running benchmark such as SuperPI give some sort of equivalent value...
So i have to say just go for it. The mem controller does help a lot in addressing bottlenecking issues. However since i have yet to test the configuration rigorously over this matter, maybe u can have a peek here later on for more feedback from members of this OC community...

btw, good question bro, i have not taken this matter into account for some reasons..maybe later if i got NBTD, i would enlightened u with benchies..but rest assured that as far as PI is concerned, the value i got is quite similar and havent shown any signs of bottlenecking effects..forgot to mention something, gaming also show no signs of lagging unlike those of Intels. smile.gif

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my result at 312 fsb @ 2.5g. prime for 5 hours.. smile.gif im using xp120 with delta 120mm fan for my cooling.


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QUOTE(gamers maniac @ Apr 17 2005, 04:45 PM)
my result at 312 fsb @ 2.5g. prime for 5 hours.. smile.gif im using xp120 with delta 120mm fan for my cooling.
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dude, that's one high htt, congrats thumbup.gif

too bad it's on divider sweat.gif
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I dont think its much of a problem running high htt on dfi mobos..
dude, he's running that on 2-2-2-6 configuration..very sweet..summore prime stable-congrats.
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yeah true but i'm more interested in 1:1 config laugh.gif
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yeah...1:1 is every ocers dream..
TCCD might do it, but it might not beat the tight timing even though its running at 300htt, this is due to loose timing on TCCD's..ive read somewhere on XS comparisons between the OCZ VX at 260htt 2-2-2-6 beats the TCCD 300htt running at loose timing..
but as always TCCD is good for 24/7 systems becos of lower vdimm..
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 17 2005, 10:32 PM)
yeah...1:1 is every ocers dream..
TCCD might do it, but it might not beat the tight timing even though its running at 300htt, this is due to loose timing on TCCD's..ive read somewhere on XS comparisons between the OCZ VX at 260htt 2-2-2-6 beats the TCCD 300htt running at loose timing..
but as always TCCD is good for 24/7 systems becos of lower vdimm..
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base on what u saying i'm looking at our local forumers in Super Pi ranking.
Evogenix and Sniper on the roof. both of them have almost the exact same setup
but differ in type of ram. sniper on TCCD and Evo on UTT.
Right now tight timing is leading the way on AMD setup.
So its a good example for all the AMD64 user either going for TCCD or UTT.
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ello all....this is dun with fear n a lot of prayers....ahhahahahah

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this is a little bit more gatal tangan..... smile.gif

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this really keng chow....There are with dividers..300HT..but who wanna see wan what....summore SuperPI can manage 40's jerk....where got kick....ahhh...juz show lar wiff dividers.....300HTT...jeng jeng jeng.... thumbup.gif


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Stability Test...Prime95...running and temp below 50c.....

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After stop prime....

p/s:thanks to PCcrazy for tips n tricks......can ask him for help...very helpfull guy....maklum ler noob like me needs teachers like PCcrazy....hahahahha...

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note:i ran with only only sticks of kingston 512MB 400mhz KVR...2.85v...CPU 1.50 Adjust Percent 10.00%.....leceh la ini ejas percent...why not make only voltage selector....haiuyaaahh...

The OCZ cannot do what this KVR can do....dunno why lar...mebbe voltage not enuff.... whistling.gif

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base on what u saying i'm looking at our local forumers in Super Pi ranking.
Evogenix and Sniper on the roof. both of them have almost the exact same setup
but differ in type of ram. sniper on TCCD and Evo on UTT.
Right now tight timing is leading the way on AMD setup.
So its a good example for all the AMD64 user either going for TCCD or UTT.
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UTT better than TCCD???

btw what is both of them?? i still dunno oooOOoOo...

DDR,DDR2,DDR3 KVR,Corsair,DT/BT-D43,winbond bh-5/6 tau lar....but what is TCCD and UTT...
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btw, juz tried my dt-d43
can 2.5-3-3-x at 240...
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btw, juz tried my dt-d43
can 2.5-3-3-x at 240...
n my pie is 32sec brows.gif
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eh why u faster than me....all same except u dual chan....mine single chan....is dual chan can gain as much like urs????
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y i faster?
coz im on dual channel, using 200:166 deviders, n tighter ram timings brows.gif
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Apr 18 2005, 12:45 PM)
UTT better than TCCD???

btw what is both of them?? i still dunno oooOOoOo...

DDR,DDR2,DDR3 KVR,Corsair,DT/BT-D43,winbond bh-5/6 tau lar....but what is TCCD and UTT...
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not really...
even utt win tccd on the same htt and divider, doesnt mean that its better

for example,
if benchmarking @ 250htt,
utt[ch5/bh5] can goes for 2-2-2-x and
tccd can goes for 2.5-3-3-x
In this situition, utt's[ch5/bh5] take some advantages on tccd due the low timings

but, dont forget, utt's[ch5/bh5] need high vdimm on higher speed[MHz] and normally they will max out around 250-260 MHz

if benchmarking @ 300htt,
utt[ch5/bh5] cant do 1:1 anymore, but only with divider, but
tccd still can do 1:1 with 1T @ 300htt @ low vdimm
In this case tccd will smoked out utt[ch5/bh5] far far away Edited : not very far la... still can see the smoke laugh.gif laugh.gif

UTT means Winbond's UnTesTed ram

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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Apr 18 2005, 12:56 PM)
eh why u faster than me....all same except u dual chan....mine single chan....is dual chan can gain as much like urs????
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single channel? why do u even bother to run sigle channel? tongue.gif
just teasin ya..i know its for benchies purpose only..
so how far can the RAM go at DC...im interested to know--OCZ tu..
put some voltage on to it---3.5v thumbup.gif it will shines like a sun. biggrin.gif
downclock the proc and up u go htt...show us some real OCZ power...

@Austin..thanks very much for the contribution....1.18v @ 2.2ghz? wow drool.gif

@antonio---that is great clock...2.7 Ghz drool.gif 1.6vcore only

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greattt???....tiuuu....talak shiok maaa....heheheheh....

btw whats the max u guys ever heard in terms of 1:1 HTT on any rams???

OCZ???cannot lar tailor....mebbe have to use DDR booster....can't get timing like 3 3 3 8.... x 3 3 8 the x must not be 3 if 2.5 can....dunno why...voltage aledi habis at 1.85....summore 240 cannot boot...4x HTT u know....if 225 can boot wif 4X HTT...dun even bother go HTT 3x or play wif loose timing coz the OCZ wont boot.....

max i get last nite...was 233...HTT x4... 2.5 4 4 8...vdimm 1.85...cpu voltage same like the time o/c d43 wan...use OCZ cannot boot...tit tit tit...sumore malam lagik....tit tit tit...org mau tido pun cannot....

then change to KVR....wahlawwehhhh.....hihihihi....300 HTT x4 no hal...weh ada once maybe i hit 313....yahhh...i remember...got but no screen shot...divider 133 kots...ker 166 ntah....tapi loose timing kaw kaw....heheheheh.....

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so how far can the RAM go at DC

DC nie what does it means.????

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sorry man..its Dual Channel..
1.85vdimm? supposed to be 2.85vdimm..
yeahh but ocz is a great brand..ive seen ocz value doing 250htt 2-2-2-6..drool
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oOOoOo...dual channel....

maklum ler i nie still noob....hahahahah...

weh salah la...2.85 max....kekekek...sorry typo error....
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brudda, that ocz ram will only fly when u give high vdimm sweat.gif

once u put in 3.3V above, sure can go more than 250fsb smile.gif
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n i oso fly out of my head if either one mobo or processor is blown...
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dun't worry man, as long as u don't go over 3.6V and got a fan above the ram sure safe punya tongue.gif
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AMD64 3000+ s939 Wincester core
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HTT setting : 289 x 9 2600Mhz
LDT multiplier at 3x
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Stable so far after Prime 3 hours and still going while taking this screenshot. Highest load temp is 54C in non-air con room during nighttime. Prime is done at night.

However, i notice an trend with stock hsf, once temp >56C prime will produce error. I dun have good heatsink to push it higher.

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damn great with stock Vcore...keep it up.
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QUOTE(fr!tzz @ Apr 19 2005, 12:08 AM)
AMD64 3000+ s939 Wincester core
***CBBFD 0442SPMW***
MSI Neo2 Platinum NF3 =bios 1.37mod=
Vcore 1.4v stock heatsink fan
Mushkin 2x256 PC3200 LII BH5 running 133/200 divider
HTT setting : 289 x 9 2600Mhz
LDT multiplier at 3x
Vcore = Startup (default)
AGP voltage = 1.5v

Stable so far after Prime 3 hours and still going while taking this screenshot. Highest load temp is 54C in non-air con room during nighttime. Prime is done at night.

However, i notice an trend with stock hsf, once temp >56C prime will produce error. I dun have good heatsink to push it higher.
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thats totally a very good result indeed... hope i can get proc like yours... ur so lucky to have that stepping and batch proc.
thats why i'm looking forward for Venice since i CANT get the proc batch like yours.

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Borrowed this cpu from my fren. Since he not into overclock, basically running default 1.8Ghz only, pretty wasted. So i borrow it and try clock. Who knows can push all da way to 2.6g and still prime stable.

Unfortunately he duwan sell to me.
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QUOTE(fr!tzz @ Apr 19 2005, 03:13 AM)
Borrowed this cpu from my fren. Since he not into overclock, basically running default 1.8Ghz only, pretty wasted. So i borrow it and try clock. Who knows can push all da way to 2.6g and still prime stable.

Unfortunately he duwan sell to me.
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thats totally a GEM, u should try offering him at high price. then tell him that other proc is still good for stock clock running. Summore tell him that newer proc got better mem controller than old one like CBBID 05XX upwards.
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damn man!! why ur cpu so cool? mine less than 1 minute after boot omost 57c oledi using stcok fan(no OC)? wonder why? cry.gif
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FSB: 245
HTT: 4X
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Vcore: 1.525v
Vcore Percent: 10.0%
Vdimm: 2.85v
AGP Voltage: 1.60v
Cool n Quiet: Off
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CPU HeatSink: Cooler Master Hyper 6
CPU Fan: Taken from Cooler Master JET 4

Voltage flunctuates: A little i guess.
Casing Temp: Heat rise not felt.
Inside Casing Temp: 34c - 39c(priming)
Heatsink Temp: 33c ( in between the Hyper 6 fins on the 6th floor)
CPU Temp: 47c - 53c (Up n down while prime)
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QUOTE(gengstapo2 @ Apr 19 2005, 11:48 AM)
damn man!! why ur cpu so cool? mine less than 1 minute after boot omost 57c oledi using stcok fan(no OC)? wonder why?  cry.gif
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i wouldnt say that 53c at full load is so cool la...it's just normal...but yours at 57c at stock is, i guess not so normal one...
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ello remysix, then how to solve arr? buy xp-120? cool.gif
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hahaha...i dont mean ur stock cooling is not good coz there are people using stock cooling and oc but still managed to get around 50c if not lower than that...that's why i said not normal la...from where that u get the reading...what kind of thermal paste or something u used...if u read the thread, first time using xp120...i got 80c temp at full load...idle just like yours...finally i found out that my hsf is not properly installed...that time i've already bukak and pasang for 3 times...when finally know the problem...i got it A OK...now doing 30c idle...oc to 240 wif mem@2336...if 270 as my sig...temp goes up to 35-37...full load never exceed 50c...try to re-check ur installation la...
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@antonio i think with ur rig can push exactly at 250fsb 1:1 2.5-3-3-7. i done that with my DTD43 vdimm at 2.8v. but my proc can run at 1.45vcore at that setting. thats my 24/7 setting.
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QUOTE(gengstapo2 @ Apr 19 2005, 11:48 AM)
damn man!! why ur cpu so cool? mine less than 1 minute after boot omost 57c oledi using stcok fan(no OC)? wonder why?  cry.gif
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used artic freezer 64 with dual fan setup cool man load only 43c idle 29-30c thumbup.gif
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hrmmm.. im using original hSF here. but tat fr!tzz manage to get better wif his stock fan. tat why im quite dissapointed wif mine.

QUOTE(mazdagtr210 @ Apr 19 2005, 03:00 PM)
used artic freezer 64 with dual fan setup cool man load only 43c idle 29-30c thumbup.gif
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^ how much lehh?

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Wow, those are nice temps! What kind of overclocks do you get with those temps?
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not only fritzz, but most people got temp in those range..
u should check ur HSF..
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hrmmm.. im using original hSF here. but tat fr!tzz manage to get better wif his stock fan. tat why im quite dissapointed wif mine.
^ how much lehh?
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check at ngeseng bulk for the prizzze biggrin.gif

so far can manage to 2.5ghz no problem at all but daily used only at 2.2 ac freezer 64 is very good maa.

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not only fritzz, but most people got temp in those range..
u should check ur HSF..
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just take out & put back my HSF, oso put new thermalpaste, result is same. nothing happen. might need to new HSF or water cooler. cry.gif

* where is this ngeseng bulk order? kenot find arr. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(gengstapo2 @ Apr 19 2005, 09:05 PM)
just take out & put back my HSF, oso put new thermalpaste, result is same. nothing happen. might need to new HSF or water cooler.  cry.gif

* where is this ngeseng bulk order? kenot find arr.  shakehead.gif
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try this
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=137856&hl=
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guys i have a problem and i need some opinions. currently i'm at 8*300 vcore 1.678V vdimm 3.0V.

at first at the settings above i could get stable at 1.65V. then after a few weeks my system got unstable to the point where my programs were terminated and get random reboots. so i increased my vcore a notch then everything was fine. now yesterday it acted up again, getting crashes and random reboots. so now i'm forced to raise the vcore another notch...

i wonder wat's wrong?? any of u guys have encountered this kind of problem??
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puaahhhh!! so big woo this HSF. big than XP-120. since price lil bit cheaper, gonna try lerr.. thanks mazdagtr210.. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(jslut @ Apr 20 2005, 07:19 AM)
guys i have a problem and i need some opinions. currently i'm at 8*300 vcore 1.678V vdimm 3.0V.

at first at the settings above i could get stable at 1.65V. then after a few weeks my system got unstable to the point where my programs were terminated and get random reboots. so i increased my vcore a notch then everything was fine. now yesterday it acted up again, getting crashes and random reboots. so now i'm forced to raise the vcore another notch...

i wonder wat's wrong?? any of u guys have encountered this kind of problem??
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woooo...at this rate u might end up frying your proc...but sorry bro...have no idea la...have u tried the default setting and see if any stability issue...
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There is rumours saying that running Winnie at >1.6vcore will reduce overclocking ability overtime. Dono how true it is this but better be cautious and dun increase vcore anymore.
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this wan nice....cun cun...

but luv my hyper 6....all copperrrrrrrrrr...hahahaha...alluminum dun like ler..

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jslut, heat issues perhaps?
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QUOTE(jslut @ Apr 20 2005, 07:19 AM)
guys i have a problem and i need some opinions. currently i'm at 8*300 vcore 1.678V vdimm 3.0V.

at first at the settings above i could get stable at 1.65V. then after a few weeks my system got unstable to the point where my programs were terminated and get random reboots. so i increased my vcore a notch then everything was fine. now yesterday it acted up again, getting crashes and random reboots. so now i'm forced to raise the vcore another notch...

i wonder wat's wrong?? any of u guys have encountered this kind of problem??
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Ram maybe...try memtest
HD data corrupt maybe...
Heat problems maybe...(but unsual for u lar coz got big fan n HS....but try reinstall them add more of thermal paste)...
Virus maybe....
PSU not supply enuff juice...

try lar...maybe got one above...maybe... thumbup.gif
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i'm beginning to feel that my psu is the problem. before this i mod the psu so could supply high 3.3V rail. now that i've pulled down, probably it's beginning to destabiliza sweat.gif

but measuring the rails seems nothing is wrong with it... and that's with a multimeter. rams, hdd, virus and heat seems impossible coz tried overnite memtest and no problems, temps never go above 44C, had ghosted to virgin installation.... nothing works sweat.gif

it seems i mite have to find another good psu doh.gif
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ic.. but where u put connection to tat small fan? SYS/ NB fan port arr? just buy new freezer64 from ngeeseng, but result still dasame lerr. freezer64 fan only running at 2220RPM(highest). how arr? but, from ur siggy, u notice tat ur using clawhammer. mine is winny wooo?

* thinking of putting 2 small fan & connect it to SYS & NB fan port. btw, what urs fan's brand & size?

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Yeehaa.... Prime at 2.56GHz, stock cooling. Vcore 1.525v +13%

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both of my fan running at 5000 rpm. I get this fan from acer veriton 7500g and 1 more from stock amd64 3200. u must use artic silver for the thermal paste.
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aiiyakk.. too many thing to be do. tot tat amd64 is cool but mine is damn hot. just run cpu-stress in default setting for 1 1/2 hour, hightest load at 65c sometimes 64c. idle at 55c-57c. what size is ur fan? is there any other fan tat got gud pressures i can buy from shop? ermmmmm maybe delta fan could help me out. cry.gif

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i want to ask, does K8 cpus tolerate burn-in to achieve higher speed?
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Err... I don't see mine can achieve higher after burning in for a week. tongue.gif
It's god-damn Winnie 3000+ 0503.

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some people burnt-in their proc to get higher speed...some burnt-out the damn proc in the process of achieving that goal...hahaha...
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did u guys really try pushing hard the htt?
try using 2:1 devider n see if the htt gan co above 300 with multi 8
in my case, i guess its my limited vcore or stock hsf..
p/s: i manage to reach 340x8.. superpi can at 330x8
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yes be careful of ur processor, don't push vcore too much sweat.gif

it seems i've pushed mine too far, sent my rig to robyncom for checking and initial checking found out that my proc could be the culprit cry.gif

oh man, dtr isn't that easy to find around here sad.gif
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[OFFTOPIC]--but since i dont want to open new thread to discuss it, why not i post it here.....

@ Antonio

Based on ur request, i did a test of how well Cool n Quiet live up to its name..
There is no doubt a myth that circulates around all of us that, if we enabled this thingy, we r in for shocking performance reduction contrary to what AMD64 specs has mentioned.

The test consist of SuperPi 1M, Sandra FPU, 3dmark series and real gaming performance monitored by FRAPS..

What i found is a relieve to those who have a system with CnQ on..There is no performance reduction in all of those test..So u guys out there, jus think AMD would never construct these kind of tech if its useless or suffer from performance degradation..

And some sifu at XS always advice to shut off CnQ during Ocing, but to my surprise, my system works flawlessly with CnQ enabled.as long as HTT doesnt exceed 280HTT..

But there is one thing u need to take into account..Undervolting may occured to u as it did to me when using CnQ..

Say for example :
1.75 vcore setup in bios with CnQ enabled will result in 1.62
1.75 vcore setup in BIOS without CnQ = 1.68-1.71

Undervolting such as above did happen to me..I dont know whether it will happen to you,

With that in mind, if u have a stable system running at 1.7vcore
u will have problem, becos Neo2 only permits max setting of 1.75vcore on std board without tweaK and mods..but if u can stabilise ur system with a lower vcore, CnQ is for u..

ps: Since my main rig is testing new btd43, i dont have screenies to share....
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my processor damn hot!! just running at 205x11 & vcore only 1.4. can reach up to 69c full load. just modd my freezer64 put original AMD fan & P4 fan around hsf, then only reduce only 4c!! what a joke. maybe x-120 will be my next HSf. mad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo2 @ Apr 22 2005, 07:58 AM)
my processor damn hot!! just running at 205x11 & vcore only 1.4. can reach up to 69c full load. just modd my freezer64 put original AMD fan & P4 fan around hsf, then only reduce only 4c!! what a joke. maybe x-120 will be my next HSf. mad.gif vmad.gif
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see this 40c only. u must set up ur hsf properly last time im also got high temp. but after 3-4 time its ok. thumbup.gif

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see this 40c only. u must set up ur hsf properly last time im also got high temp. but after 3-4 time its ok. thumbup.gif
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same here dude...last time idle got 57c...now suda ok...snowing biggrin.gif
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aiyaakk.. how to set up? oledi buka pasang omost 5-6 times. tired lorr. hello mazdagtr, how to make sure tat HSf inserted properly? might bring my cpu to u if u live around PJ. sweat.gif

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gengstapo, what type of amd64 are u using? winchester or the caa2c clawhammer ?

if that caa2c, it is well known as a hot processor.. even people at XS with wc also quite disappointed with its heat consumption
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gengstapo, what type of amd64 are u using? winchester or the caa2c clawhammer ?

if that caa2c, it is well known as a hot processor.. even people at XS with wc also quite disappointed with its heat consumption
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yaww prend, im using the 90nm winchester. damn very hot lerr. how to solve arr? cry.gif
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juz how thick did u put the thermapaste?
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 22 2005, 05:14 AM)
[OFFTOPIC]--but since i dont want to open new thread to discuss it, why not i post it here.....

@ Antonio

Based on ur request, i did a test of how well Cool n Quiet live up to its name..
There is no doubt a myth that circulates around all of us that, if we enabled this thingy, we r in for shocking performance reduction contrary to what AMD64 specs has mentioned.

The test consist of SuperPi 1M, Sandra FPU, 3dmark series and real gaming performance monitored by FRAPS..

What i found is a relieve to those who have a system with CnQ on..There is no performance reduction in all of those test..So u guys out there, jus think AMD would never construct these kind of tech if its useless or suffer from performance degradation..

And some sifu at XS always advice to shut off CnQ during Ocing, but to my surprise, my system works flawlessly with CnQ enabled.as long as HTT doesnt exceed 280HTT..

But there is one thing u need to take into account..Undervolting may occured to u as it did to me when using CnQ..

Say for example :
1.75 vcore setup in bios with CnQ enabled will result in 1.62
1.75 vcore setup in BIOS without CnQ = 1.68-1.71

Undervolting such as above did happen to me..I dont know whether it will happen to you,

With that in mind, if u have a stable system running at 1.7vcore
u will have problem, becos Neo2 only permits max setting of 1.75vcore on std board without tweaK and mods..but if u can stabilise ur system with a lower vcore, CnQ is for u..

ps: Since my main rig is testing new btd43, i dont have screenies to share....
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i totally agree! just look at my screenies few pages back. CnQ works fine when overclocking but it could also depend on your mobo(?)

anyway, i think it's a good way of preserving your cpu's life.

btw, thanx for the heads up on the max workable HTT!
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Not much of a problem for me friend...
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Only u have a good RAM...nice clock at stock cooling..

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this my 1st OC actually.

will changing the stock cooling to XP-90 give me more headroom?

how does it work?

1) better cooling > lower temps (same vcore) = better OC

or

2) better cooling > lower temps (more vcore) = better OC

what do you think/know?
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i pick no 1...and no 2 for some other situation..
but what actually happen all the time is no1..
try reduce 5 degrees or more maybe u can gain 50 Mhz..
for case no 2, if u have proper cooling u can increase vcore
to some extreme value to stabilise unstable clock speed...

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my processor damn hot!! just running at 205x11 & vcore only 1.4. can reach up to 69c full load. just modd my freezer64 put original AMD fan & P4 fan around hsf, then only reduce only 4c!! what a joke. maybe x-120 will be my next HSf.  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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yaww prend, im using the 90nm winchester. damn very hot lerr. how to solve arr?  cry.gif
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Ambient and Casing temps?

Seriously, I'm using Freezer64 as well with a Winnie. I don't even get that kinda temps at 1.76vcore sweat.gif

Right now...am running at 30C with CnQ on...Load 39C @2.2Ghz.

Ambient temps = 27C
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i dont use my side panel. just leave it barely like tat. oso same problem. become worst if closing side panel. im using i-cute atx wif one hole on side it.


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i dont use my side panel. just leave it barely like tat. oso same problem. become worst if closing side panel. im using i-cute atx wif one hole on side it.
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Try taking out ur casing...put it on the table in open space and test again.

It seems HIGHLY likely it's because of the confined environment/ poor air circulation that ur rig is on.
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ermmm.. izzit? oledi fed-up open & put back HSf, omost 10 times lerr.. doh.gif
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no wonder its hot..
i put mine on table n beside window, can get idle 33~36C woo
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Err... I don't see mine can achieve higher after burning in for a week.  tongue.gif
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yaww e-jump.. ur chasing got fan or nat at ur side panel? or just 'open' one wif nothing panel cover?
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thank to my Hyper 6 no need anymore open up side panel....hihihi....weh PCcrazy....bila lak aku asked about CNQ....i asked about why my rams cannot mix.....

2 x OCZ 256x2
1 x KVR 512x1

when all 3 ram installed....alwiz tit tit tit....machowhaii....
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mine is centurion5.. no sidepanel fan..
juz 80cm intake at hdisk n 120cm exhaust fan at back
n i close the sidepanel 24/7
[opening sidepanel increase the sys temp by 2C
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Apr 22 2005, 04:59 PM)
thank to my Hyper 6 no need anymore open up side panel....hihihi....weh PCcrazy....bila lak aku asked about CNQ....i asked about why my rams cannot mix.....

2 x OCZ 256x2
1 x KVR 512x1

when all 3 ram installed....alwiz tit tit tit....machowhaii....
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manual timing setting or spd?
coz timing not same rite?
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to mix a high perf ram with value ram, u guys need to set timing manually.. but it depends on board also.. for my board, when i set to manual, it cant boot.. got that teettteteteeett sound.. but when i reset the cmos, it can boot, but it run at ddr266, 2.5-4-4-8 2T
so i have to adjust to manual after that.. no problem~!!
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thank to my Hyper 6 no need anymore open up side panel....hihihi....weh PCcrazy....bila lak aku asked about CNQ....i asked about why my rams cannot mix.....
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** wah coolermaster hyper 6 look nice oso. might try this one larr. how much this one arr? drool.gif
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aledi set manually...

but the problem is if one one stick KVR n one stick of OCZ can....but the timing cannot get 400mhz...only 333....bcoz the OCZ is only 2.5 CAS...cannot 3...uwaaaaaaaaaa....
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** wah coolermaster hyper 6 look nice oso. might try this one larr. how much this one arr? 
gengstapo, get XP-120 la.. but hyper-6 is good also. 6 pipeline. xp120 only have 5 pipeline, alu summore.

up to u to decide. as for me i choose xp-120. a bit ligher than copper. my system already getting heavier. almost 20kg sweat.gif
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but gestapo before u decide to buy the hsf - hyper or xp120...better find out the culprit of ur hi temp...even on stock, it should not be that hi la...if not, wasting money only buying those good hsf...but up to you...if u feel like buying one...go ahead...just a word of advice...peace
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xp120 n hyper6 both good.. but i personally prefer xp120 coz it is lighter than hyper6.. in terms of looks, hyper6 looks nicer biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(irenic @ Apr 22 2005, 09:33 PM)
xp120 n hyper6 both good.. but i personally prefer xp120 coz it is lighter than hyper6.. in terms of looks, hyper6 looks nicer biggrin.gif
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aiyaakk.. damn larr. spending most money on those HSf. always experience heat problem since using P4 Northwood & now, amd64 winchester. yesterday playing CM5 & temp stable at 67c!! if keep all money on those HSf might able to get WC setup. huhuhu..

* how bout performance for the xp-120 & hyper6? is there any link comparison tat can help me to preview on both product? thanks dudes. thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

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I never know 754's are good overclockers..
2.8 even though bootable is great clock..nice..
so what is the prime stable clock?
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wow, thats freakin high shocking.gif
u beat my highest htt achieved, which was 340
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cun cun...mine's only manage 300 flattsss
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i manage to increase my prime stable speed up to 2.77ghz but still cant get pass 2.8ghz..
more weird is both bootable n bencheable stuck at 2.8ghz sad.gif



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wow, thats freakin high shocking.gif
u beat my highest htt achieved, which was 340
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Nice OC's people. Keep it up! smile.gif

Btw, is the increase in HTT noticeable in benchmarks and/or real world applications itself? Does it really boost performance significantly comparing same memory settings in 1:1 and with higher HTT (dividers)?
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as for me, nope.. coz the higher htt goes, rams need deviders [n low ones too]
n here, the mem controller plays major role
since my system cant run 200:133, from 1:1 ->200:166 -> 2:1
n this produced a bad result [at htt310 n above]
unless u got ram that r capable of ddr700, thats diff story sad.gif
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to 754 users, can somebody help me and lend a spare proc?? i need to test whether my proc is the one giving me problems or something else sweat.gif
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What happened jslut? Whats wrong with ur rig...
Maybe we can troubleshoot it here...
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QUOTE(jslut @ Apr 24 2005, 10:20 PM)
to 754 users, can somebody help me and lend a spare proc?? i need to test whether my proc is the one giving me problems or something else sweat.gif
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woot wooot look like someday killed his proc. tongue.gif

whats the problem do share with us... maybe we can tell u what the prob.

if the proc didnt stable at any clock look like the mem controller is dead.
but dont look at that side... still many things to consider... mobo, psu?
or like me killing my KVR oledi.


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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ Apr 24 2005, 10:45 AM)
Nice OC's people. Keep it up! smile.gif

Btw, is the increase in HTT noticeable in benchmarks and/or real world applications itself? Does it really boost performance significantly comparing same memory settings in 1:1 and with higher HTT (dividers)?
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At the same speed, same timings, and without dividers, a higher HTT will give you higher benchmarking scores. You probably won't notice anything in apps/games.
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well at first i o'c at settings 8*300 wit vcore 1.65V and vdimm 3.0V. then a few weeks ago i got program crashes, thought it was the vcore so i increased some more.

the i again got problems with crashes... the increase vcore some more, still no dice. then i pull back to stock, that's where the nitemare starts sweat.gif i couldn't get into windows at all, even with fresh installation of windows. so i sent my rig for checking at robyncom. they said the cause was from too much as5 that it got onto the surface of my proc, making some contact on the smd... then problem solved so brought back. then i noticed it was running at 4*200 at vcore 1.0V.... i remembered that when u put dtr on default it will run at those settings. so i pushed vcore to 1.5V and 9*200 and got the same thing bsod as before...

that's y i wanna borrow a proc so i can really confirm its my dtr that's gone to the grave cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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If only i have s754 rig...
maybe u could try putting ur proc into someone else mobo..
that should help, u can PM those with s754 rig...im sure they would be glad to help, but im afraid u have to post the proc to them...
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If only i have s754 rig...
maybe u could try putting ur proc into someone else mobo..
that should help, u can PM those with s754 rig...im sure they would be glad to help, but im afraid u have to post the proc to them...
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try find lerr nearby one. then, give gaji lorr to them. aheks..
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problem is i don't know anyone nearby who uses s754 sweat.gif some more, my proc prob only work with modded bios'ed dfi 250gb only coz there's a 3 cycle wait to initialize dtr... so in other words, the rig mite or mite not boot up sweat.gif

so in other words, I need to borrow someone else's proc sweat.gif
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ehh jslut, u bought dinster psu arr? blink.gif
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do you changed your BIOS after "8*300 wit vcore 1.65V" benchmarking??
cause different BIOS might have different oc-ing capability

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no bios change ever since i changed to mobile compatible bios one sweat.gif

believe me, if i change bios i would've known and changed to diff bios beb tongue.gif

gengstapo2@ eh since when i bought dinster's psu?? u mean the ttgi one?? huh.gif

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Eh how come my result not yet updated? Is my entry valid?
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Where is ur result fritz?
can u direct me to it......
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 25 2005, 05:50 PM)
Where is ur result fritz?
can u direct me to it......
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wrongly posted...hahahaha...that's what happen when u opened too many thread to read/response...sorry guys!

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gengstapo2@ eh since when i bought dinster's psu?? u mean the ttgi one?? huh.gif
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* jslut - yepp. sorry lerr if not. mistaken. tot u buy from him cause he selling very cheap. aheks.. sweat.gif notworthy.gif

* new news here.. b4 this i got this temp problem even im not OC'ing my AMD64. but 1 thing weird here. ive heard my friend oso experience like this before, then after formating his pc then his temp omost decrease than b4. so, ive just format my pc & the my temp oso decrease. very2 low. idle just 30c. now, im going to OC my rig, since b4 this got temp problem. thanks for all dear gurus here. thumbup.gif

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hrmmm.. proceeding to OC. on default core just able to do 219x11 & pass Aquamark but fail on 3dmark03. why arr? onload temp just around 48c.
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fritzz the proc SPMW is a gem..
1.39vcore can reach 2.6 Ghz---What a superb chip u got there dude..
Show us some more..
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guys.. i got a situation here
if i use multi 9, my max htt is 298~300
but when multi 8, i can go up to 340..
both using 1.6v vcore [max on mobo] + 0.05v from VID in clockgen

if i were to switch stock cooling to better hsf/wC, is there any possibilities i can get higher htt on multi 9? unsure.gif
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Question!! after format my pc, the temp went down. before this temp for idle around 52c. yesterday it went very low, omost kenot believe. just around 30c wif default setting. is this true?
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QUOTE(gengstapo2 @ Apr 26 2005, 09:38 AM)
Question!! after format my pc, the temp went down. before this temp for idle around 52c. yesterday it went very low, omost kenot believe. just around 30c wif default setting. is this true?
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that temp is from where???BIOS or software (smartguardian, etc...)
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QUOTE(e-jump @ Apr 26 2005, 09:20 AM)
guys.. i got a situation here
if i use multi 9, my max htt is 298~300
but when multi 8, i can go up to 340..
both using 1.6v vcore [max on mobo] + 0.05v from VID in clockgen

if i were to switch stock cooling to better hsf/wC, is there any possibilities i can get higher htt on multi 9? unsure.gif
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that would depends on ur current temp i guess...if on stock, the temp is damn hi, then changing it to wc/better hsf might give some result...but i dont think it's gonna be that huge improvement...at x9, u got 2700 and at x8 u got 2720...not much diff for the proc speed...
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that temp is from where???BIOS or software (smartguardian, etc...)
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those read was from my Abit Guru Utiliti in windows enviroment. at BIOS oso same lerr. is the software tat come wif mobo sensing true heat temp?
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I've just reinstall my watercooling set last night. Will try again tonight with the ac at full blast and a bucket of ice biggrin.gif

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Tried priming at 2.8Ghz but failed in less than 30 minutes. Folding + downloading the whole night without any problems though biggrin.gif

PS: Irenic, jom swap procesors biggrin.gif
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Naaaa.... I don't think that'll happen with water. Maybe a 3Ghz screenshot if I'm extremely lucky biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(arj @ Apr 26 2005, 02:03 PM)
I've just reinstall my watercooling set last night. Will try again tonight with the ac at full blast and a bucket of ice biggrin.gif

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Tried priming at 2.8Ghz but failed in less than 30 minutes. Folding + downloading the whole night without any problems though biggrin.gif

PS: Irenic, jom swap procesors biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo2 @ Apr 26 2005, 09:38 AM)
Question!! after format my pc, the temp went down. before this temp for idle around 52c. yesterday it went very low, omost kenot believe. just around 30c wif default setting. is this true?
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maybe b4 this there's something running in the background that keep the processor running/doing something
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I just got my DFI ULtra-D and a amd64 3000+ with totally new stepping LBBID 0509 winnie today......

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maybe b4 this there's something running in the background that keep the processor running/doing something
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izzit possible to get wrong temp sensing if installing 2 or 3 software temperature monitoring in one machine? blink.gif
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izzit possible to get wrong temp sensing if installing 2 or 3 software temperature monitoring in one machine?  blink.gif
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sumtimes it happend in core center where if there is 2 or 3 programs for monitoring the fans speed reading becomes to low..... mad.gif
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any idea how good is this?
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CBBID 0502DPAW

any idea how good is this?
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hmmm dunno lerr. CBBID in internet most "mat salleh" comment this class r bad ass one. doh.gif

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hmmm.....

QUOTE(destr0yer@www.xtremesystems.org @ 04-08-2005 03:41 PM)
My 0502 CBBID 3000+ cooled by stock cooler get max OC stable at 2610 mhz @ 1.63 volts (290 x 9) in the coldest's days (My case is open 24/7)

Now running @ 310 x 8 1.1 (mens: 2x 512 TCCD Patriot 2,5-4-4-7 2T/1T) stable 24/7
1.50 vcore and 3.00 vmen

Max FSB @ 1.1 tested: 320 x 8 1T and get 8024 mbps @ Everest smile.gif

If change @ 270 x 9 and keep another settings and voltages, it is very unstable :confused:

Strange... Bad memory controler?


QUOTE(ozzimark@www.xtremesystems.org @ 04-08-2005 03:58 PM)
i've been collecting a database of winchesters over at [H], here's what i have for 0501 and 0502.
3000+  CBBID 0502 BPAW 2500 700 1.6 air dmonkey
3200+  CBBID 0501 DPDW 2358 358 1.45 air BaNaNaS
3200+                      0501  2270 270 1.4 air MrSlacker
3200+  CBBID 0502 APDW 2520 520 1.8 air arnemetis
3500+  CBBID 0501 FPMW 2707 507 1.725 Water  mr_ouija

looks like hit and miss from that extremely limited sample wink.gif
note that the 6th column is the mhz oc over stock


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3000+ CBBID 0502

needs 1.45v to be stable at 2.3Ghz (9x255) with stock cooler

rest of system:

Asus A8N SLI Deluxe (do not get this board)
2x512MB old twinmoss PC3200 (don't have money for new faster RAM, running them at 210Mhz)
enlight 460w PSU (don't have the 24 pins)


QUOTE(Needitcooler@www.ocforums.com @ 02-20-05, 12:19 PM)
3200+ CBBID 0502. I can do 2.4 GHz stock. 2.5 takes 1.6 volts. 2.6 takes 1.7 volts.

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mine oso CBBID.. puihh!! doh.gif apa punya stepping?
btw, mine can reach 2.47GHz on default vcore but not stable at all.. just can boot but try open any application fail(got error). blush.gif
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I hope mine is different coz it's a Sempron with 128KB L2 tongue.gif
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it's a S-754

there is no S-939 Sempron at the moment
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QUOTE(winc87 @ Apr 26 2005, 09:49 PM)
I just got my DFI ULtra-D and a amd64 3000+ with totally new stepping LBBID 0509 winnie today......

hope to post result soon....smile.gif
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any result yet winc...curious about this LBBID...hope it's not as 'good' as CBBID wink.gif
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hehehe be patient....smile.gif

My 2x512mb Hynix D43 cannot run 250fsb la.....

DFI ULTRA-D user mind to tell me your ram settings for D43 ? tongue.gif
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There is always a divider tongue.gif

Typically a d43 would do 250htt at 3-4-4-8...
But the new d43 always been a poor performer, ive tried one and even 240 would result in an instant error...furthermore its single sided...

win jus give us a hint... smile.gif
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any result yet winc...curious about this LBBID...hope it's not as 'good' as CBBID wink.gif
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uhukk.. hey mann, dont kutuk CBBID lerr. CBBID is not tat bad ehh. i will show u tat the CBBID is not tat "kick ass".

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QUOTE(gengstapo2 @ Apr 28 2005, 03:13 PM)
uhukk.. hey mann, dont kutuk CBBID lerr. CBBID is not tat bad ehh. i will show u tat the CBBID is not tat "kick ass".
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cool man...coolll...i'm oso on cbbid la bro...just like urs...it's good but not many would want to find the cbbid...i'm saying this generally...i know that some cbbid is good...like the cbbid 0507 fpaw dinster bring it in...(i'm in the waiting list)...that one seems to be good...but the one i have is not that good la...that's all...
btw...how urs? how hi can it goes...

hey guys...noob question here...if i'm running at 320 fsb 1:1 but ram on 2T...and pass priming for say...5 hours...but failed if ram set to 1T at 275fsb 1:1...does that mean my proc is good and the mem stick is the culprit...hmmm...all the sudden missed out this one...quite busy to focus on oc lately...
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mine? i dunno lerr. max bootable only at 2.47GHz default core but kenot do anything. havent try to increase the vcore & vdimm. will try later. aheks..

** what is the MAX vcore that all GURUS here recommendation for OC'ing this amd64?

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QUOTE(remysix @ Apr 28 2005, 03:30 PM)

hey guys...noob question here...if i'm running at 320 fsb 1:1 but ram on 2T...and pass priming for say...5 hours...but failed if ram set to 1T at 275fsb 1:1...does that mean my proc is good and the mem stick is the culprit...hmmm...all the sudden missed out this one...quite busy to focus on oc lately...
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yup ur mem is the culprit....
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hehehehe....weh KVR baru tuh cincu sial....

rugi bought.....who wants???...sell 320 both sticks....hahahahha...

weh PCracer anyone wanna use BH-5 OCZ rams????tell me lar....
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There is always a divider  tongue.gif

Typically a d43 would do 250htt at 3-4-4-8...
But the new d43 always been a poor performer, ive tried one and even 240 would result in an instant error...furthermore its single sided...

win jus give us a hint... smile.gif
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yalorr...i agree wif that...bought the goddamm rams lor.... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 28 2005, 03:36 PM)
yup ur mem is the culprit....
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i thought so...the corsair returned the ram that kat run at 2336 as they advertised when i ram'ed the sticks...it's tccd...but the chapalang type one...cant even do 222x at DDR400...i'm waiting for the ocz value vx from dinster now...cant wait to have them...

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VX Value????

nyum nyum....
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Provided i got the cash, VX value will be my choice...
Read a lot of reviews on that RAM and i can conclude that it behaves similarly like the OCZ VX, the difference is only it is not being tested to run at OCZ VX
timing...

And im glad to say Dinster is organizing bulk on that RAM..
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yup...not tested may means...if u r lucky, u r get the best performer...if not, maybe so-so ones...but from the review, the so-so ones are also the good one...worth to buy...
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hmmm.. kenot do anything lagi lerr. my CBBID OC'ed max at 2.4GHz stable. very low lerr.. or maybe my RAm putting me down..
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I also one of the ocz vx value buyer in dinster's bulk.....let's hope we will get a good pair.....tongue.gif

hey....ask u guys.....if a good amd3000+.....by using stock vcore....how far can it goes usually ?
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A typical range of a good winnie is between 2.5 - 2.6, Above is a gem and below is a bad winnie...

as for the vcore it should be around 1.5v...

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so mine's consider bad winnie lar....uwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cry.gif
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A typical range of a good winnie is between 2.5 - 2.6, Above is a gem and below is a bad winnie...
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is this on default vcore or what? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Apr 29 2005, 11:31 AM)
so mine's consider bad winnie lar....uwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cry.gif
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dun cry antonio...i also have a bad winnie... cry.gif cry.gif
any suggestion which A64 shud i go if i were to change this poor poor winnie...
appreciate if u guys could share the stepping as well...
e.g. 3200+ CAA2C FPAW or something...thanks.
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here's mine

2.35ghz@ 1.575v , 3000+ winchester

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an update coz in the previous screenshot the cpuz is not clear..a bit jagged..

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THE LATEST SUPER PI

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QUOTE(remysix @ Apr 29 2005, 12:31 PM)
dun cry antonio...i also have a bad winnie... cry.gif  cry.gif
any suggestion which A64 shud i go if i were to change this poor poor winnie...
appreciate if u guys could share the stepping as well...
e.g. 3200+ CAA2C FPAW or something...thanks.
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i saw at atom got 040 sumthing stamp at the proc....mebbe can try to look for it there....it is AMD 64 3200+....look like old stock...dunno lar jewel,golden or a mishap processor....

go go go atom now...grab it.... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Apr 29 2005, 02:52 PM)
here's mine

2.35ghz@ 1.575v , 3000+ winchester

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an update coz in the previous screenshot the cpuz is not clear..a bit jagged..

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SPI 53 sec's?????????????????????????????

wahh...ur rams are from which planet????
running dividers???
when runnin SPI did u close all application 1st....dun ever run wif a tons of programs running at the background....

FSB good but SPI results show that ram latency are too relaxed.... thumbup.gif huh.gif

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 29 2005, 10:42 AM)

as for the vcore it should be around 1.5v...
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cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif I have a bad winnie cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

QUOTE(hazremi @ Apr 29 2005, 02:52 PM)
here's mine

2.35ghz@ 1.575v , 3000+ winchester

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an update coz in the previous screenshot the cpuz is not clear..a bit jagged..

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53sec spi's really really really bad dude. Even at default 1.8ghzt should do about 49 (if remembered correctly tongue.gif )
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I think hes just messing with getting higher proc clock speed...
so perhaps he doesnt want the RAM to get into the equation...

biggrin.gif sniper
mine winnie only manage 2.5 @ 1.5v and 2.56 @ 1.55v and 2.61 @ 1.6v
mine is so so winnie...

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ya...if 53s, u can almost cook maggie, waiting for that biggrin.gif ...what's ur mem timing...show the screenie...
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this is latest PI..

i think before this i open lots of program while running the pi..

now only running PI..i managed to do 43

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 29 2005, 04:01 PM)
I think hes just messing with getting higher proc clock speed...
so perhaps he doesnt want the RAM to get into the equation...

biggrin.gif sniper
mine winnie only manage 2.5 @ 1.5v and 2.56 @ 1.55v and 2.61 @ 1.6v
mine is so so winnie...
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u winnie is so-so...mine is no-no cry.gif
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at least my CBBID winnie dont do 43sec runnin' super pi.. whistling.gif
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one major drawback of my OC is i'm using ddr 333 and ddr400..that would result to run at ddr333 only..i guess i need to buy a ddr400 ram so can achieve dual ddr400..
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ehh guy.. what should vdimm value for OC'ing & what the timming? izzit 2.8vdimm wif 2.5-3-4-8?
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u guys want low superpi? forget about using loose timing like 3-4-4-8
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guys.. i got a prob..
sometimes in morning, my aircond kink on by its own..
when my cpu reach 31C, it hangs/freeze..
whats wrong aa? sweat.gif doh.gif
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yeah mine also hang..although it is stable in primestable..but after playing games for sometime..it hangs
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Apr 29 2005, 04:58 PM)
one major drawback of my OC is i'm using ddr 333 and ddr400..that would result to run at ddr333 only..i guess i need to buy a ddr400 ram so can achieve dual ddr400..
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check out dinster's bulk for ocz vx value...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...5&#entry3725565
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QUOTE(e-jump @ Apr 29 2005, 07:40 PM)
guys.. i got a prob..
sometimes in morning, my aircond kink on by its own..
when my cpu reach 31C, it hangs/freeze..
whats wrong aa? sweat.gif doh.gif
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wow...at 31c it hung...that's disastrous...at what ur proc and mem runs...
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QUOTE(remysix @ Apr 29 2005, 08:36 PM)
wow...at 31c it hung...that's disastrous...at what ur proc and mem runs...
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er.. my siggie
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ehh.. all my prend here.. plss help me!! today, im playing OC my pc. then, suddenly my GC bring an error "lost focus", something like tat arr when running on 3dmark(219*11) but can run well in aquamark(219*11). is this SIGN tat my GC going to DIE ehh?? how arr?? if going to die, might better to claim warranty?? huuuu.. if rosakk, kenot afford to buy once again wooo. gdmf!! doh.gif
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not stable la tu
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looks like my CBBID Palermo is not that good also. at stock vcore (1.4v) only prime stable up to 215*9 with no divider. but my mobo undervolts by 0.025v. full load temp at stock vcore at that setting already reach 50'C sweat.gif

i guess the as5 haven't settled in yet, or maybe bcoz of the stock cooling. or maybe the ihs is not making proper contact with the core tongue.gif
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ehh soulfly, izzit like tat ur CBBID?? well, maybe the stepping CBBID is all kick ass one. but, i remember reading article tat why this CBBID doing like this is because AMD has installed speed controller on em'. dunno this news correct or not. muahahaa..


QUOTE(hazremi @ Apr 30 2005, 09:55 AM)
not stable la tu
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*** not stable in term of what??

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check out dinster's bulk for ocz vx value...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...5&#entry3725565
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hihihihi...mcm kenal jerkk/... thumbup.gif
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of course...we're neighbours in dinster's...was hoping to get one more order...so can get 540 instead of 570...30 bucks cheaper...but now, no hope
it's ok...that 570 pun dah cheapo already...waiting patiently now...
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I have a real weird problem here, i was running 250x9 previously at 1.4V, divider at ddr333. This setup has been running flawlessly for at least 1 month. Yesterday my PC bluescreened, so i decided to run prime95, after 2mins already fail doh.gif , then i reduced the HTT speed to 247, so it becomes 247x9, so it becomes stable again. Why my pc suddenly cannot work at 250x9 now but doesn't seem to have any problem running 250x9 previously? cry.gif
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Try memtest to see if ur RAM is the culprit..

If the RAM is ok, i think its the heat generated by ur proc that reduce some of
the oc there..
My advice, try reapply thermal paste and see what happen,
Or try reducing temp by blowing a table fan at the mobo with side panel open while priming, if u can pass the test, it means that the temp is holding u down....

Lets add something else shall we, perhaps ur PSU unable to supply the juice, try unplugging any unimportant devices first..

Oh btw what is the rail reading? Does it fluctuates?
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 30 2005, 03:05 PM)
Try memtest to see if ur RAM is the culprit..

If the RAM is ok, i think its the heat generated by ur proc that reduce some of
the oc there..
My advice, try reapply thermal paste and see what happen,
Or try reducing temp by blowing a table fan at the mobo with side panel open while priming, if u can pass the test, it means that the temp is holding u down....

Lets add something else shall we, perhaps ur PSU unable to supply the juice, try unplugging any unimportant devices first..

Oh btw what is the rail reading? Does it fluctuates?
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Temperature is pretty terrible in the afternoon, mb temp is 44c shocking.gif , while priming is around 51c for cpu.Rail readings are 11.84v, 4.838v, 3.28v and 1.392v for 12v, 5v, 3v and Vcore. This is kinda weird, cos i have been running exactly the same setup and settings for over 1 month without any problem at 250x9. One last thing i noticed is that the nforce 4 runs damn hot, on the default Asus HSF, the thing is burning hot to touch, i changed mine to TR NB-1C yesterday and the temperature is a lot better, but still hotter than the CPU

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Mine doesn't seem to look too good. So far Super Pi 1M benchable at 300*8 with 1.5V*110% straight out of the box.

Just started to do some burn-in. But I think my temp is kinda okay. I'm using stock heatsink only. Burn-in at 313*8 with 1.525V*113%.

My mobo seems like undervolting quite a lot sweat.gif

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I have to register ka to read the reviews tongue.gif

btw 2.7 at 1.47 looks promising for san diego..
thanks for the pic and link/

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of course...we're neighbours in dinster's...was hoping to get one more order...so can get 540 instead of 570...30 bucks cheaper...but  now, no hope
it's ok...that 570 pun dah cheapo already...waiting patiently now...
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nevermind lorr....there are alwiz next time...

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weh PCcrazy....

is that the CPU u mentioned just now????

issnt drooling enuff larr....
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Review updated with San Diego @ 3.4GHz 1.74v..... >_<
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Updated:
AMD Turion 2800+ SSE3 512KB @ 2564MHz 1.42v

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Updated:
AMD Turion 2800+ SSE3 512KB @ 2564MHz 1.42v

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where is the IHS???? drool.gif
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It's a mobile cpu, therefore no IHS

btw.... i've read somewhere that the turion is not that great. venice is much-much better
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hmmm...then save up the money for venice la...i heard that it maybe one of the item dinster gonna bring in for his Superbulk 4.0...somewhere this June...so, still got 2 months to go...
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hmmm...then save up the money for venice la...i heard that it maybe one of the item dinster gonna bring in for his Superbulk 4.0...somewhere this June...so, still got 2 months to go...
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Reasons to go over San Diego rather than Venice...

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The extra cache SD had surely an advantage over venice....
And furthermore SD overclocks great, no more subzero bug (provided u gonna put it under some phase change sweat.gif )

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wow..
but i dont think i wanna upgrade to new proc in this 1-2years later
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haha...when u r about to get the san diego...maybe another one comes out...colorado...then Toronto...then Penang...then...blablabla...
aiseh...when to buy like that...pening already
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yeah..
n obviously newer proc gonna perform better than previous ones..
but one cant keep changing proc everytime new ones out..
izznt it membazir?
coz u can always OC the proc till it obsoletes laugh.gif doh.gif
btw, by time i wanna upgrade later, dual core already affordable to low/mid range enthusiast wink.gif
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Wah, you guys thinking bout dual cores already so fast? tongue.gif
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ya lorr. very membazir to follow all up-to-date technology. GDMF!! i will not going to update my rig as long as it can still be used in the future. at least, until microsoft launch the 128bit windows. muahahahass..
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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ May 2 2005, 05:22 PM)
Wah, you guys thinking bout dual cores already so fast? tongue.gif
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This will be my next line of upgrades...
That is why im staying away from venice or san diego..
But not imediately... When the price beomes ok, and when all hardware matured enough..


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Yea, I agree with PCcrazy. No point upgrading to something which is almost the same. Unfortunately, up to date I haven't even got to used my A64 setup as my mobo still away for RMA sad.gif

I won't be upgrading anymore too after I complete my SLI rig. If I do, it will most probably be a dual core CPU.

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hmmm...r u guys saying this coz u guys got a good stepping proc or what...hehehe...
anyway...i'm also not gonna that...will wait till there's something huge happened in the proc tech...be it amd or intel...when that happen, then i will make up my mind...
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Hehe i'm pretty happy with mine. Benchable at 2.8Ghz using stock cooler but temps went up to 69C. Due to the high temps I refrained from any long term stability tests. Just can't wait till my mobo returns then I can setup my water cooling and do some real stability tests instead of just benching. smile.gif
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oh ya...your mobo...so how did u rma it...thru ur local distro or from LYP???
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San Diego is kinda pricey ..
Venice still ok compared with winchester .

If not mistaken ,De_Cruelz now at Aussie right?
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i've spend almost rm4000 to my 64 rig... next year will upgrade new one... this tech haa, cannnot catchup ler... im student summore. depend on scholarship to spen on pc..
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Yea, I tried to RMA at local distro and just today received some bad news from them. The RMA dept replied that since its a physical damage to the board its not covered under warranty.

I complained to them that its a manufacture fault. If the damage was caused by user due to inserting different ram slots then that means the board should never be allowed to be sold in the first place. Should that also mean that I am not allowed to change ram as often as I like? Would you or anyone call that an 'enthusiasts' motherboard?

They're giving me a load of bullshit now. As of now they have not replied my email with my complaints. I've been very nice and polite with them so far but I think I've had enough.

If they still reject my RMA I guess i'll be left with 2 options. First is to sell off the mobo to someone who can fix it themselves or they can find some other way to RMA and purchase a new one for myself. Second option would be to courier the mobo back to Taiwan which would probably cost me 1/3 the price of the mobo and wait God knows how long before they return it to me.

Sorry for venting out here. It's just so frustrating dealing with this especially after spending a huge amount of money on a crippled mobo which I only used for about 2-3 days for testing.

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Yea, I tried to RMA at local distro and just today received some bad news from them. The RMA dept replied that since its a physical damage to the board its not covered under warranty.

I complained to them that its a manufacture fault. If the damage was caused by user due to inserting different ram slots then that means the board should never be allowed to be sold in the first place. Should that also mean that I am not allowed to change ram as often as I like? Would you or anyone call that an 'enthusiasts' motherboard?

They're giving me a load of bullshit now. As of now they have not replied my email with my complaints. I've been very nice and polite with them so far but I think I've had enough.

If they still reject my RMA I guess i'll be left with 2 options. First is to sell off the mobo to someone who can fix it themselves or they can find some other way to RMA and purchase a new one for myself. Second option would be to courier the mobo back to Taiwan which would probably cost me 1/3 the price of the mobo and wait God knows how long before they return it to me.

Sorry for venting out here. It's just so frustrating dealing with this especially after spending a huge amount of money on a crippled mobo which I only used for about 2-3 days for testing.
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the ram slot got problem...one of connecting pin something...he mentioned that before..
from what i see it...the distro dun want to bear the cost of RMA or exchange it coz it's not they selling the board...so they just give tons of bullshits to scare u off...really sorry for u...
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QUOTE(De_Cruelz @ May 2 2005, 05:22 PM)
Wah, you guys thinking bout dual cores already so fast?






This will be my next line of upgrades...
That is why im staying away from venice or san diego..
But not imediately... When the price beomes ok, and when all hardware matured enough..
hihihihi...tak puas lagi ker bang????wakakkaka....i think oso wanna upgrade larr...hahahahha...

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  Yea, I agree with PCcrazy. No point upgrading to something which is almost the same. Unfortunately, up to date I haven't even got to used my A64 setup as my mobo still away for RMA

I won't be upgrading anymore too after I complete my SLI rig. If I do, it will most probably be a dual core CPU.
juz upgrade....what for wait wait...hihihihi... notworthy.gif

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  San Diego is kinda pricey ..
Venice still ok compared with winchester .
erk????haimeh????hmmmm....mebbe FX 55 would suffice.... thumbup.gif





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so, fx55=hot when oC laugh.gif

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when u have fx55...u wouldnt want to oc that hi...maybe jus for fun...hey...arj is selling his...can grab la...
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QUOTE(remysix @ May 3 2005, 05:40 PM)
the ram slot got problem...one of connecting pin something...he mentioned that before..
from what i see it...the distro dun want to bear the cost of RMA or exchange it coz it's not they selling the board...so they just give tons of bullshits to scare u off...really sorry for u...
Yeap, that's right remysix. The distro I returned in to do sell those motherboads. In fact they're one of the main distros here in Australia I think. They're just trying being very anal about it. I've brought this issue up at dfi-street and hopefully they can influence the distro's decision. Here's the link for those interested: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10829

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