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post Mar 28 2010, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 27 2010, 10:15 PM)
Why is there no boycott when Astro says you need to buy a 2nd decoder to watch 2 channels simultaneously ?
If you want >60GB shared between more than 1 user, get a 2nd account. or a higher package ? Far fetched ?

My opinion lah: Greed and fear. A knee-jerk reaction.

Well, if the united malaysian front for "I-want-to-download-more-than-60GB-of-patches-linux distros-email-youtube-a-month" (snigger) can "overturn" TM's capping decision,
I'd like to see what they can do regarding the Astro issue.
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we are talking about unfi here. not astro. if you are not happy with astro, by all means create a thread to voice your displeasure.

if you are happy with the 60Gb that tm offers, that is your prerogative. just state your contentment and be done with it.
no need to belittle others who do not think that the 60Gb they are offering is adequate or reasonable.


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TM duno hw 2 listen to consumers...
they nw can do watever they wan coz they monopoly-ing in msia


Added on March 28, 2010, 12:28 am
QUOTE(sg999 @ Mar 27 2010, 10:34 PM)
because that astro is realy HOPELESS and RUBBISH
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Astro and TM both also hopeless la

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QUOTE(Eoma @ Mar 27 2010, 10:15 PM)
Why is there no boycott when Astro says you need to buy a 2nd decoder to watch 2 channels simultaneously ?
If you want >60GB shared between more than 1 user, get a 2nd account. or a higher package ? Far fetched ?

My opinion lah: Greed and fear. A knee-jerk reaction.

Well, if the united malaysian front for "I-want-to-download-more-than-60GB-of-patches-linux distros-email-youtube-a-month" (snigger) can "overturn" TM's capping decision,
I'd like to see what they can do regarding the Astro issue.
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Because it so happens that when it comes to unifi, there are people who are willing to voice out. If you want to voice out about astro, be my guest.

Do I want them to make it uncapped? That would be nice, but its not what I'm asking for. I'm asking for a revision in the cap sizes because 60GB is seriously way too low for 5mbps. To me, it doesn't seem to cater to the whole idea of a high speed broadband plan, it doesn't seem to be pushing the country forward in terms of technology and mindset.

Whether the downloads are legal or illegal, is not the point, the future ahead of us is one where bandwidth usage will be high. We can already download original games through steam, and games are getting larger and larger. Youtube itself already offers high definition, lets not forget sites like divx stage 6. What about songs which people can download via itunes?

There will always be abusers, which is why I don't mind the cap, keeps things levelled, but the cap has to be right for the speed as well. If they want to make a 60GB plan, I can accept that, if they charge like RM60 for it.

Tmnet just wants to squeeze as much money out of us without investing in better international bandwidth. and they will continue to blame the users. Is that how a company should be running a business? Blaming its users? Think about it for a second before you come up with a response.
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QUOTE(kae7 @ Mar 27 2010, 11:21 PM)
i hope.. it would be permanently.. nod.gif
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Unlimited download without control leads to bandwidth congestion which makes ur connection gettin slower. it also can effect the backbone connection (fiber optic in this case) in a long term.

To see on the brighter side, the capping is actually for ur own goods too. Did u want to suffer with slow connection because on certain month u'd download a data for like 60GB whereas ur neighbor aggressively download a data for like 1TB??? U see, because of ur neighbor fault (aggressively download), u also will suffer with the slowdown connection. And later on, u come to this thread, shouting that "my internet so slow" whilst its ur neighbor fault in the first place.

So the capping policy is to ensure that everyone will get based on what they pay, fair and square.

I'm saying this because actually capping is a good thing. The downside is the capping quota isn't enough. Hopefully they gonna increase the quota once the capping policy starting to be implemented again. icon_rolleyes.gif


p/s: I bet that those who dwld for like 1TB for a month can't even finish the whole movies/games that they'd dwlded (thats like 1497 of movies, assuming 1 movie = 700MB) rclxub.gif . Or if u're, I can just give an advice, please get off from ur laptop/PC and get a real life. real life >> digital life. Seriously. tongue.gif

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post Mar 28 2010, 01:41 AM

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Unlimited download without control leads to bandwidth congestion which makes ur connection gettin slower. it also can effect the backbone connection (fiber optic in this case) in a long term.

To see on the brighter side, the capping is actually for ur own goods too. Did u want to suffer with slow connection because on certain month u'd download a data for like 60GB whereas ur neighbor aggressively download a data for like 1TB??? U see, because of ur neighbor fault (aggressively download), u also will suffer with the slowdown connection. And later on, u come to this thread, shouting that "my internet so slow" whilst its ur neighbor fault in the first place.

So the capping policy is to ensure that everyone will get based on what they pay, fair and square.

I'm saying this because actually capping is a good thing. The downside is the capping quota isn't enough. Hopefully they gonna increase the quota once the capping policy starting to be implemented again. icon_rolleyes.gif


p/s: I bet that those who dwld for like 1TB for a month can't even finish the whole movies/games that they'd dwlded (thats like 1497 of movies, assuming 1 movie = 700MB) rclxub.gif . Or if u're, I can just give an advice, please get off from ur laptop/PC and get a real life. real life >> digital life. Seriously. tongue.gif
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totally agree!!!!

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post Mar 28 2010, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(roommate @ Mar 28 2010, 01:32 AM)
Unlimited download without control leads to bandwidth congestion which makes ur connection gettin slower. it also can effect the backbone connection (fiber optic in this case) in a long term.

To see on the brighter side, the capping is actually for ur own goods too. Did u want to suffer with slow connection because on certain month u'd download a data for like 60GB whereas ur neighbor aggressively download a data for like 1TB??? U see, because of ur neighbor fault (aggressively download), u also will suffer with the slowdown connection. And later on, u come to this thread, shouting that "my internet so slow" whilst its ur neighbor fault in the first place.

So the capping policy is to ensure that everyone will get based on what they pay, fair and square.

I'm saying this because actually capping is a good thing. The downside is the capping quota isn't enough. Hopefully they gonna increase the quota once the capping policy starting to be implemented again.  icon_rolleyes.gif
p/s: I bet that those who dwld for like 1TB for a month can't even finish the whole movies/games that they'd dwlded (thats like 1497 of movies, assuming 1 movie = 700MB)  rclxub.gif . Or if u're, I can just give an advice, please get off from ur laptop/PC and get a real life. real life >> digital life. Seriously.   tongue.gif
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This answer are unbelievable. shocking.gif

Who ever teach or even said if you use more bandwidth will impact the fiber optics lifespan. shakehead.gif

First of all, HSBB were meant fast internet and high speed broadband, with single fiber optics, you can get inbound and outbound for 1TB/sec (Tested by Japan), just imagine your hardisc 1sec full just like 'sekelip mata'.

If you referring download and upload to international cap should apply while localize should no cap at all because fiber optics is 1000000xtimes faster than copper that will never slowdown local user connect local server. I believe this have been done in some country like Singapore, Korea, and Japan.

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Because it so happens that when it comes to unifi, there are people who are willing to voice out. If you want to voice out about astro, be my guest.

Do I want them to make it uncapped? That would be nice, but its not what I'm asking for. I'm asking for a revision in the cap sizes because 60GB is seriously way too low for 5mbps. To me, it doesn't seem to cater to the whole idea of a high speed broadband plan, it doesn't seem to be pushing the country forward in terms of technology and mindset.

Whether the downloads are legal or illegal, is not the point, the future ahead of us is one where bandwidth usage will be high. We can already download original games through steam, and games are getting larger and larger. Youtube itself already offers high definition, lets not forget sites like divx stage 6. What about songs which people can download via itunes?

There will always be abusers, which is why I don't mind the cap, keeps things levelled, but the cap has to be right for the speed as well. If they want to make a 60GB plan, I can accept that, if they charge like RM60 for it.

Tmnet just wants to squeeze as much money out of us without investing in better international bandwidth. and they will continue to blame the users. Is that how a company should be running a business? Blaming its users? Think about it for a second before you come up with a response.


I agree too.Nowadays there are a lot of bandwidth heavy stuff on the internet and the 60gb cap is just too darn little.

Some of you people who use the internet for email,light surfing,msn and stuff shouldn't even bother subscribing to Unifi.Please just don't waste your money doing so.

HD youtube,steam downloads,game demos and patches,online gaming,legal game downloads and etc need quite substantial bandwidth and for online gaming,good quality internet.The lowest package's 60gb cap and most expensive package's 120gb is just not enough.Not to mention it is quite expensive as well. sad.gif


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QUOTE(prasys @ Mar 28 2010, 12:05 AM)
Reminds me of :-

Boycott Astro Max

Boycott Call of Duty MW2

Boycott Left 4 Dead 2

Trust me , its not going to work. You can try. TM will just execute plan b. Well lets advertise no cap and then screw up users by providing slow speeds. Once most of the users realise that they have been rick-rolled by TM , there would be a lot of users would say that the cap is a must so that they can enjoy high-speed broadband (my POV that is).
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Sure can work bro so many people fakap @TMCorp on twitter and send lot's of complaint to TM they fedup because public already cos them headache

Personally i will take the Biz Package RM 199 and that 5 Mbps upload and download are great :-) can host modern warfare 2 games on PS3 with no lagging
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QUOTE(pengiranijam @ Mar 28 2010, 01:48 AM)
This answer are unbelievable. shocking.gif

Who ever teach or even said if you use more bandwidth will impact the fiber optics lifespan. shakehead.gif

First of all, HSBB were meant fast internet and high speed broadband, with single fiber optics, you can get inbound and outbound for 1TB/sec (Tested by Japan), just imagine your hardisc 1sec full just like 'sekelip mata'.

If you referring download and upload to international cap should apply while localize should no cap at all because fiber optics is 1000000xtimes faster than copper that will never slowdown local user connect local server. I believe this have been done in some country like Singapore, Korea, and Japan.
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No body teach me, I think it logically. It still apply a same methodology, if u abusively using one device like for eg. u listen to ur ipod 24/7, i can confirm the lifespan of the ipod is shorter than those who listen to his ipod for like 12 hours a day. (I know later on u gonna say I should compare Apple-to-Apple, but since I can't find any, do venture it for me then). Correct me if i'm wrong, i'm still in learning process with a few little knowledge. smile.gif

For the "1TB/sec (Tested by Japan)" things, did u know that there're many different types of fiber optic? we have single-mode, multi-mode, and different core size. Each type have different capability to carry/load the data . I'm sure Japan technology >> than Malaysia. Everybody knows. And the distance between the exchange to ur house effect the download speed too.

And for the capped, they said the download quota is the data from international, and not for local. Means they implied the capped for data that download from outside malaysia. I don't know how far the truth is though. But if I'm not mistaken, TM's CEO did mention something regarding Malaysian pattern on surfing to international data.

Whatever it is, i'm still not satisfied with the download quota! They should increase it!! A survey to internet-users can come up with a win-win situation between users and providers. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 28 2010, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(roommate @ Mar 27 2010, 04:33 PM)
Hurm. For normal usage like surfing perhaps? LOL

Anyway, they said the capping is for browsing/loading data from international, but for local data, they didn't cap. I'm not sure bout this though.

The main advantage for 5mbs line is not only the download speed is huge, but the upload speed is huge too!! FYI, the Unifi package didn't capped for upload activity, u can upload as much as u want. Its good for a personal/business who need to deal with international people, where they can upload the data needed as big as they want at a high speed.  nod.gif
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If local din cap, maybe there will be a forum or community that join together and cooperate dl file/movie or any data from other country den p2p file transfer in local.. tat would be nice rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(ywkwy @ Mar 28 2010, 02:26 AM)
If local din cap, maybe there will be a forum or community that join together and cooperate dl file/movie or any data from other country den p2p file transfer in local.. tat would be nice  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Yeah!! But read again my statement "I'm not sure bout this though." tongue.gif sorry to cut-out ur excitement. laugh.gif

If its true, then rclxm9.gif
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Even if only cap international bandwidth the cap is still too low for the expensive price we pay.

More bandwidth=more damage fiber optic?I'm not too sure about this but when that time really comes, it will be years before that happen and maybe tmnut need to replace the old fiber with new ones.I think our weather is more of a concern on damaging the fiber....

Japan and Korea are using it like crazy and i don't seem to hear anything about them replacing their fiber optic cables....
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wanna ask.. did anyone that join this boycott already have HSBB coverage tongue.gif ??

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i wanted to join the boycott... but since they are holding from putting the caps till the end of the year, im going to register for it.

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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Mar 28 2010, 03:48 AM)
i wanted to join the boycott... but since they are holding from putting the caps till the end of the year, im going to register for it.
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icon_rolleyes.gif FORGET IT MY FRIEND...CAP IS ONLY UNTIL THE END OF 2010. ONCE YOU JOIN, YOU WILL HAVE TO SIGN 2 YEARS CONTRACT...WHEN TM GOT ENOUGH OF CUSTOMERS BY THIS SALES
GIMMICK "NO CAP TILL THE END OF THE YEAR" , THEY WILL IMPOSE IT ONCE THEY HAD ENOUGH CUSTOMERS. SO YOU SIGN UP NOW & YOU HAVE ONLY 8 MONTHS OF FUN...THEN YOU WILL HAVE LEFT 16 MONTHS OF CURSING & ANGER. rclxub.gif THINK ABOUT IT MY FRIEND...STILL WANT TO JOIN? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Zepx @ Mar 27 2010, 03:59 PM)
For your information, 60GB is MORE THAN SUFFICIENT. No one asked you to surf youtube. No one asked you to download songs. No one asked you to download movies.
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LoL best post i've seen in this thread.

No one ask you to post here as well, why you bother?

The internet now is about Youtube*, a kind of entertainment & information.
You might not need these 2, but the rest of us do.


*3rd most visited website in the world

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post Mar 28 2010, 06:05 AM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Mar 28 2010, 12:05 AM)
Reminds me of :-

Boycott Astro Max

Boycott Call of Duty MW2

Boycott Left 4 Dead 2

Trust me , its not going to work. You can try. TM will just execute plan b. Well lets advertise no cap and then screw up users by providing slow speeds. Once most of the users realise that they have been rick-rolled by TM , there would be a lot of users would say that the cap is a must so that they can enjoy high-speed broadband (my POV that is).
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Well without this boycott, we wouldnt have TM moving 1 step backward by "no capping 4 now". TM is a company, installation of fibre across the country cost money, they have put their investment already. It would be silly for them to see all their invested infrastructure left under utilize without making sufficient money. If there is enough or majority of user do not buy their product, they have to lower their price and step backward again. The problem is whether there are enough Malaysian that are smart enough to know their "rights". Control is on our hands, not them, money is ours too.

When ask about capping thing, they said "there is no capping for now" which means there will be in the future. There is no a clear answer for the user on where is the limit.
Then people are asking regarding why bundle IPTV with it, are user subsidizing the cost of the IPTV etc. They are saying "It is not about subsidizing blah blah blah" which already mean the user is paying for the cost of the IPTV when it is not their intention to buy the product from the first place.



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Errr.. i thought they already update their Twitter saying that no capping involved? Why so serious now?
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QUOTE(rewlie @ Mar 28 2010, 06:12 AM)
Errr.. i thought they already update their Twitter saying that no capping involved? Why so serious now?
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Unless they put into the term & condition we have to sign for 2 years, otherwise dont buy their words.
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QUOTE(billytong @ Mar 28 2010, 06:14 AM)
Unless they put into the term & condition we have to sign for 2 years, otherwise dont buy their words.
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So it can consider not official now laa.. ok2 got it..

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