Yes, looking for pioneer... something that can be upgraded gradually... start of in the budget 1.5-2k..

that much budget for a pioneer avr will only land you something that's gonna stuck until you sell it off as preout are (currently) only available in the elite series.

then again, most people are perfectly fine with it as multichannel amps are quite costly to begin with. most (if not all) prefer to dump money to upgrade their speakers, subs, tvs and not take the external amp path.

Hmm.. I hv to say I am completely clueless in this area.. what I hv in my mind like.. I want to buy 2 front speakers.. n whatever thing that we need to connect it at first..
and probably upgrade to buy rear speaker if got the budget..

This post has been edited by opjust: May 5 2010, 09:25 PM

If your budget is low, I recommend you get some used equipment first. A good used 5.1 avr and possibly mix and match 5.1 speakers would be not so expensive. Whatever choice you make, you should not waste your money on HTIB. Most >10 years old branded avrs still sound fantastic.

I think for that kind of budget, its possible to get the entry level avr from Onkyo/Yamaha with HD Audio capable. and a pair of good speaker as well, if you know where to find em..

How much is Pioneer AVR VSX-919 ?

in that case, i think it's wiser to buy a cheap AVR that could do HD Audio and dumping the extra money for speakers and subs.
if you wanna upgrade to experience HD Audio (which is the buzz nowadays, be it whether you could hear the difference or not), at least you don't have to sell off the avr. also a media player that don't support HD audio is cheaper. good enough for initial purchase.

IMHO it would sound better (overall experience) than buying yourself some expensive AVR that could do everything, but only to plug in some cheap satellite that you pulled off from some broken speaker somewhere; because all the money are already spent on that expensive AVR.

only to hit your head to the wall next month when that expensive AVR are phased out from the market for HDMI 1.4 and dolby pro logic IIz and audyssey wide support. causing that expensive AVR to drop 50% in price.

but then it's just a personal opinion..

got my Avatar today from Amazon - but the Pioneer 51FD cannot play ... cialat - requires some update ..

http://www.digitaltrends.com/entertainment...rking-for-many/

now watching star trek that came along with it first.

haha! I can sense a lot of truth in that statement... when u say cheap AVR.. which brand u have in mind..
I just use my ps3 to play bluray or any mkv file. do ps3 support HD audio?

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Added on May 5, 2010, 9:31 pmhmm.. mind if u can share with me, where I can find a good place to get this stuff?

This post has been edited by opjust: May 5 2010, 09:35 PM

Kawan, new units arriving soon.... hold back on your purchase

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Added on May 6, 2010, 10:44 amDolby Pro Logic IIz? Haha...How many people out there would actually use a 9.1 setup?

Technology advances is inevitable. In an arms race, the only loser is the consumer. Unless of course, falls from the sky

Best bet is to go mid-range

This post has been edited by serendipity168: May 6 2010, 10:44 AM

Seriously dude? Cheapest HD-audio capable avr I have seen was around rm1800. What brand are you talking about and where can our friend get it? Anyway, that alone has surpassed his budget of rm1500++.
I think if he wants to enter HD HT world, he need a minimum of RM7K. With his budget, he can only go with preowned DD/DTS 5.1 system.


This post has been edited by putih: May 6 2010, 11:37 AM

Thank You..Noted

BTW,
Can anyone suggest the best partner AVR for Klipsch Quintet III with either SW450 or RPW-10?
I'm thinking using Pioneer VSX-919AH or the new replacement model, but afraid that the combination will be too bright due to the nature of the QIII using the horn…

Anyone have the experience partnering Klipsch with the Pioneer?

This post has been edited by formalin: May 6 2010, 12:29 PM

My Klipsch was match up with LX82...

Even without a sub ...this pioneer avr still can drive klipsch with good sound...

which version of ps3? i've read that the fat one could output lpcm and the slim one could bitstream. my friend has the slim one and that version confirm could bitstream hd audio to the avr.

sometimes good offer could be found in the garage sales, the music section. and you should also wait look in hifi4sale. sometimes once in a blue moon a good offer surface up. but don't hope too much.
also try to ask at hifi shops if there's used unit that people traded to upgrade.


hey some people say it's better maaa.. some say there's a definite improvement from the use of wide or height speakers. some could hear it, some could not. the best way IMHO is to try it oneself and experience it rather than reading about it.
can't try it if the AVR don't support such things, no?

the cheaper i've seen are either the yamaha rx-v465 or the pioneer vsx-819. in which both are selling at RM1.5k-something.
but the cheapest have to be the *used* RM1k-something denon 1610 which are already sold.

i reckon klipsch speakers are easier to drive compared to other kevlar variant.
even my wharfedale could be driven to listening volume by my cheap vsx-519. should be easier if high sensitivity speakers (like klipsch) are paired to it.

and that's coming from an avr which have bloated power specs..

hoh! a minimum of 7k!!!! Thats way2 beyond my imigination...
because I saw pioneer HT selling at 13++ last time at one of the electrical shop.. cant remember which model...
just a normal two stand front speakers and dunno got anything else or not..

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Added on May 6, 2010, 5:56 pm[quote=paskal,May 6 2010, 01:22 PM]
which version of ps3? i've read that the fat one could output lpcm and the slim one could bitstream. my friend has the slim one and that version confirm could bitstream hd audio to the avr.

sometimes good offer could be found in the garage sales, the music section. and you should also wait look in hifi4sale. sometimes once in a blue moon a good offer surface up. but don't hope too much.
also try to ask at hifi shops if there's used unit that people traded to upgrade.


okay boss, I'll start search around based on your recomendation.. btw my ps3 is slim one..
when electrical shop advertise PIONEER HT system only 1399 let say for example.. what do they give us? speakers only?

This post has been edited by opjust: May 6 2010, 05:56 PM

[quote=opjust,May 6 2010, 05:49 PM]
hoh! a minimum of 7k!!!! Thats way2 beyond my imigination...
because I saw pioneer HT selling at 13++ last time at one of the electrical shop.. cant remember which model...
just a normal two stand front speakers and dunno got anything else or not..

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Added on May 6, 2010, 5:56 pm[quote=paskal,May 6 2010, 01:22 PM]
which version of ps3? i've read that the fat one could output lpcm and the slim one could bitstream. my friend has the slim one and that version confirm could bitstream hd audio to the avr.

sometimes good offer could be found in the garage sales, the music section. and you should also wait look in hifi4sale. sometimes once in a blue moon a good offer surface up. but don't hope too much.
also try to ask at hifi shops if there's used unit that people traded to upgrade.
okay boss, I'll start search around based on your recomendation.. btw my ps3 is slim one..
when electrical shop advertise PIONEER HT system only 1399 let say for example.. what do they give us? speakers only?

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For a brand new, you cant get an avr with hd audio but if you're looking the other way, ie. used set, then it's possible. I agree with paskal that you have to get your legs moving by visiting those av shops. Pay attention to the internet forum as well ie lowyat forum or hifi4sale for any amazing deals.

my kuro 50 full hd will be arriving later.yeah!!

where did u get your fullhd kuro? if u don't mind to share the $$$ u paid and if they still have stock?

Wow... Amazing! Still manage to find one at this point in time

I have a very brief sneak peek on 1019's succesor....