Useful Links for LC Owners :

King Of Moped 135 (KOM135)
Yamaha T135
Malaysian Bikers Community (MBC)
Moped Riders Community (MRC)

LYN 135LC Club V1
LYN 135LC Club V2
LYN 135LC Club V3

Whose name is not in the list, kindly PM me your details as above



This post has been edited by Are_keem: May 18 2010, 09:23 PM

Our Proud Ride!!

1. Spayz's ride :

2. xtreme_paranoid's ride :

3. charge-n-go's ride :

4. Are_keem's ride :

5. scoffer's ride :

6. kinwei3250's ride :

7. LilCroSs's ride :

8. samba18's ride :

9. UncleCheang's ride :

10. budakmentah's ride :


This post has been edited by Are_keem: May 18 2010, 09:24 PM

Our Proud Ride V2!!

11. Na0ki's ride :

12. DontdoDRUG's ride :

13. jsteoh93's ride :

14. Aaron135LC's ride :


This post has been edited by Are_keem: May 20 2010, 10:36 AM

Tips to Improve Engine Performance

Minor mod (increase acceleration)
1. Remove air filter. (Penang people can find me, FOC)
2. Reset carburetor air-fuel setting. (Penang people can find me, FOC)
3. Set valve tapette to 10 IN and 15 OUT. - RM30 labour charge @ New Bee Hock motor, Penang.
4. Change to 15-40 with 415 chain. - RM100

Major mod
coming soon...


Tips to Improve Handling Performance
coming soon...


Sprocket Combination (Stock CDI)

acceleration + = increase by xx%
acceleration - = decrease by xx%

15-35 - 1st : 48kph, 2nd : 90kph, 3rd : 130kph, 4th : 180kph; acceleration - 10.0%
15-36 - 1st : 46kph, 2nd : 86kph, 3rd : 125kph, 4th : 175kph; acceleration - 7.8%
15-37 - 1st : 44kph, 2nd : 83kph, 3rd : 122kph, 4th : 169kph; acceleration - 5.1%
15-38 - 1st : 43kph, 2nd : 80kph, 3rd : 118kph, 4th : 160kph; acceleration - 2.6%

15-39 - 1st : 42kph, 2nd : 78kph, 3rd : 115kph, 4th : 155kph; acceleration no change

15-40 - 1st : 41kph, 2nd : 75kph, 3rd : 111kph, 4th : 151kph; acceleration + 2.6%
15-41 - 1st : 40kph, 2nd : 73kph, 3rd : 108kph, 4th : 148kph; acceleration + 5.1%
15-42 - 1st : 39kph, 2nd : 71kph, 3rd : 105kph, 4th : 144kph; acceleration + 7.8%
15-43 - 1st : 38kph, 2nd : 69kph, 3rd : 102kph, 4th : 140kph; acceleration + 10.0%

After changing racing CDI >> top speed for 4th gear can add about 10 - 20kph.

*Note* The above data is an estimation of potential top speed for each gear, and may vary from bike to bike.


Carburetor General Tuning Guideline:

A. Change the idle air-fuel mixture setting 1st.
B. If still not satisfied, change the needle position.
C. If none of the needle position is good, change the jettings.


A. Idle air-fuel mixture settings
1. Air screw set at about 2.5 turns for stock airflow. Modified exhaust + air filterless can use 2 turns.
2. Idle rpm increase a little more than normal.

B. Needle setting
1. There are 3 ticks on the needle jet.
2. The lowest tick will give us good FC, as it limits more petrol to flow from mainjet @ half throttle
3. The highest tick will give us bad FC, as it let more petrol flows from mainjet @ half throttle.

However, highest tick does not mean best acceleration. If too much petrol flows into the venturi, the mixture will become too rich. This will decrease the power at high rpm. So, try different needle clip position and feel which one has the best results.

C. Jet size setting
1. Change mainjet to #107.5 (stock #105)
2. Change pilotjet to #22.5 (stock #20). If there is no performance increase, then stick back to #20.
3. Change mainjet to #110 + pilotjet #22.5. <-- this should be a good pair.

Anything more than #110 mainjet will make the engine feels heavy, bcoz the mixture becomes too rich.


Disc Brake Tuning Meteorology

The theory covers the relationship between the total areas of the brake pots (Note, its area not count), brake pads, masterpump, the rigidity of the brake hose and the property of the brake pads. The point of improvement is to look for the limit of the system and upgrade it.

1. Single pot is less prone to uneven brake force compared to multiple pots when in case one of the pot jams.

2. Changing the brake rotor is a start. But if you do not see improvements, that means rotor is not the limitation, and you need to change other things to do a stopee (Nose brake).

3. Change brake hose to steel braided, so it is less likely to expand and eat up the brake budget. Try this, wrap ur hands around standard brake hose, and press the brake you will feel it expand. Anymore you press also won't increase braking performance.

4. Change to DOT5 brake oil (normal 1 can, but easily overheat. I go hill run for >1 hr, DOT5 is mandatory)

5. Change brake pads, I use Ferodo imported by Racing Boy. Ask for original ones, one set front about RM30~40. You can see more copper strands on the pads. Other good pads use metal strands so u can see silverly metal strands.

6. Must stiffen front fork absorber, and add a stabilizer bar. Use 15W-20 fork oil, make it about 25% stiffer than stock. 20W-50 fork oil is too stiff bcoz the oil is too not lean enuf, the bound and rebound SUX, I feel like riding on a horse. The traction sux too, bcoz front tyre can hardly grip on the road when going through uneven road (esp penang road).

7. Use ABS device (about RM100) <-- optional

** many thanks to bro charge-n-go and bro alexei for the useful tips
stay tune for more tips

p/s : if anybody wanna share their modding tips too, you can PM me or just post in the thread, and I will update this post

This post has been edited by Are_keem: Feb 16 2010, 08:50 AM

reserved again

This post has been edited by Are_keem: Feb 16 2010, 02:07 AM

haha finally ;D
where my name on the list? ;(

ES white | KL | 2009

This post has been edited by Sadru: Feb 16 2010, 02:08 AM

sorry mate, i just came home after 6 weeks in NS training camp.
and I will be away from tomorrow till 14th March

anyway list updated

Are_keem: thanks for doing this...
supporter reporting in.

thx god..finally.v4..

Yeah, V4 already. One of the most active and informative thread here~

wow...v4 already..
congrats to all..
i think this is the most actve thread i join..
hehehe..keep it up guys..
sharing is caring!!hehe

congrats for v4

Guys

have a question here

how do i send a motorbike to lets say Perak?? from kl.. using KTMB

guys, I will away till 14th March. so, if anybody wanna their name to be added into the list, kindly PM me. i'll update them when I back

QUOTE(suren86 @ Feb 14 2010, 07:48 PM)
sifu i need urgent help.... im using lc es clutch. standard. 2 months old. i just changed my cdi to rextor adjustable. but no difference at all... my top speed still the same at 130++.. can some one plz plz help me....
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QUOTE(saranjeevi)set tps.. rejet carb to suit the ignition power... most importantly change to stiffer valve springs.


is it normal for all bike is like that... or only for rextor cdi is like this ??

This post has been edited by suren86: Feb 16 2010, 10:12 PM

V4 finally.. congrats

suren86: info based on my experience since i'm on rextor for nw

from V3 thread

thanks for your support guys! haiya serigala, how geng oso the pipe wont b as good as ur 2 cylinder super monstar!

I dunno what is the shipping cost. If any bike shop there interested, bulk shipment should be quite cheap. I can even send the pipes over there.


arekeem, really thanks for your effort to open V4 ! Sh*t... we are not only good bikers, but good spammer huh?

This post has been edited by charge-n-go: Feb 17 2010, 10:12 AM

who's da gud spammer???

This post has been edited by blue_decamax: Feb 17 2010, 10:17 AM

The 70 people in are_keem's first post

charge, would u help me on steps to change needle jet setting. I think the foreman set my air-fuel mixture a bit richer, i lose my top end rpm performance a bit compared to previous setting..

my termignoni is on another league la..still cannot fight my brother harley davidson with vance&hines exhaust..
last time some1 sent me nob1 tri-oval cost around RM20..i think some people would buy it even they have to burden the shipping cost..maybe u should start asking nationwide/GDex/skynet,sure reach..maybe 1 of the shipping company could provide affordable price..

if a bit richer, just need to turn the air screw a bit more. I assume the needle jet u mean here refers to pilot jet, but not the needle itself?


Just wondering what's the top speed you can reach compare to your bro's harley?
and thank you for your shipping information dude.

The prob is if i turn the air screw a bit more, my engine idle will be decreased. yeah, i can try to turn the throttle stop screw (located beside air screw) to maintain again the engine idle speed. But still the performance not as good as before.
What i mean here is from what u mentioned in previous thread regarding the needle jet setting got 3 ticks right?
i am a little bit unclear regarding this. care to explain more??

I don't have the stock carb with me now. When I am back to Penang, can take some photo and show you how.
Actually what's your problem? can you describe in detail?

When you open full throttle at low rpm, u feel a sudden blurp?
or you just feel lag of power at high rpm?

guys..i just want to make a survey actually...
hehehe
how much the cost for rextor cdi and hi cam??
what's the differnt btween brt cdi and rextor cdi??
any good or bad??
help me please...thought that i want to change them in the nearest time..
but i need ur reviews first..
please..please..please...

Harley top at 180KM/h..
mine tested 200km/h..
ur welcome..since ur potential customer will be from all over malaysia..in addition nob1 sss is quite rare in the market now..

Rextor cdi + CMS cam.. the price is around rm500 (including workmanship) IIANM..

why dont have my name on list

es/puchong

my bike

My 1st setting is when i open more throttle at low rpm, i will feel sudden blurp. But thats ok coz at mid-high rpm the power was great.

But then after my accident, my foreman suka2 setting back my carb to compensate the sudden blurp at low rpm. Yeah, the acceleration improved but the top end power not as nice as before.

My 1st setting can reach 160-170kph at highway, but now at 155-160kph, i will feel power lag, and the speed just decreased to 150kph, then up again to 155kph, decreased again. Feels like kinda rpm cutt-off.... hard to describe in forum la...

haha, 200km/h !! that's FREAKING FAST !!!
I assume the meter isn't ringan like kapcai punya?


Normally foreman js turn the air screw or the idling screw to set. Did the foreman took out the needle to change anything?
If not, u can just increase the air screw 1/4 by 1/4 until u got a satisfactory setting at high rpm.

no, that time i saw he took out the needle, but dunno what he done....

Ducati speedometer must be as accurate as those apprilia one...

price now how much a?

sorry..a bit late reply..just come back from 2 day trip..terengganu-jerantut-KL-ipoh-cameron-kota bharu-terengganu..

not that fast la.naked more for street..pure race breed like cbr or 10987 can go 250kmh+++
speedo 200km/h..GPS 201.xxkm/h..but i have to wear fullface to reach that speed la..and the wind are not very friendly..

so far i have ride 3 ducati..and the speedometer quite accurate (+-5km)
honda cbr 600 also the same..
harley meter quite heavy..140kmh on meter..GPS 158km/h

for?

This post has been edited by serigala: Feb 20 2010, 10:51 PM

[quote]140kmh on meter..GPS 158km/h[quote]

thats quite heavy...like 280km/h on 135LC meter LOL

yay! just entering my 600km ;DDDD
guys i heard that its better to sometimes tries to reach 100km a bit during the dara* ( before 1st service ) time, or later the lc wont be as fast as it should be.. semput la senang cerita.

betolkah? o.O

i press throttle like 2/3 every time max. shud i full throttled it after reaching 600km walk period? or still wait till 1st service?

Hi all, i just saw this thread about Y135LC and i'm quite interested with this bike.... I'm having a 125zr rite now but i have thoughts of change my bike to y135lc... As i've heard b4 that this bike fc is quite good... Will it be a good bike to buy based on the owner's experience?

if u acceleration and top speed wise..125z much better..
but if u are thinking about 4-stroke power and agility..135LC..

yeah... but the acceleration and top speed wise comes with a price too... high fc
but actually, i dont like riding clutch bikes anymore... wanna get those auto clutch bikes... easier... and 4 stroke maintenance wont be as high as 2 stroke....

then what u are waiting for..go for it

since serigala n charge always talk bout big bike, i oso wanna ask la.
really ah big bike speedo is more heavier? i ride cbx (polis pny motor). the meter shows 140km/h, but it feels like 180km/h. or izit juz my assumption....
btw, both rpm n speedometer is new parts (2nd hand bike maa...) but it's ori!

This post has been edited by blue_decamax: Feb 22 2010, 08:47 AM

not more heavier..but more accurate..since small bike always show higher speed than the real speed..i think marketing gimmick..so people would buy these small bikes and satisfied with the top speed (talking to other..hey,my 135lc can reach 140km/h..truth is,it only reach 120km/h)

so if my cbx shows 140, it's really 140 la? ok2...

best if u measure it with a GPS..

hm..correct me if i'm wrong, but did tyre size/height also playing a role dat effect speedo..?
Coz i did noticed since i'm changing my LC tyres from stock to 70/90 duro up front..now my bike
really hard to achieve above 140. But dis "140" feel quite different compare to the "140" when
using stock VeeRubber tyre

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Added on February 22, 2010, 10:27 amhmm...better don't full throttle yet. Wait after ur bike reaching its first service(after 1000km).

And IMO there's no prob if u wanna ride ur bike @ 100kmh speed..coz 100kmh is a "relax" speed for LC.

FC wise, if ur riding at relax speed(under 100kmh) fulltank(ron95=rm7.50, ron97=rm8.00) can get around 150km like dat(test it
with my bike). And i'm using Lc for +2years..well said it was a GREAT bike

This post has been edited by noir7559: Feb 22 2010, 10:27 AM

oh..... i'm plannin to look around either for new or 2nd hand bikes for 135lc.... as i've seen previously, one new 135lc price is ard 6k+, isn't it? and actually, is it worth it to get 2nd hand 135LC?

yups... On the road price for new LC was rm6.2k + 3rat for insurance/tax etc

And if u ask my personal opinion...i think better get a new one. Coz we dono who's the 2nd
bike previous owner @ what/how he/she use dat bike. And the price of 2nd LC were only
5-6 hundred different from the new one though

Nonono u can get 2nd hand LC at 4k++ no prob (depend on its age la of course) but as noir said it is abit risky u might get a troublesome LC cuz they rempit langgar rosak then sell it..

if the price of 2nd lc is jz only few hundred difference from new bike's price, i think that it is better to take a new one.... but my current bike is Perak registration plate no. and let's say if i trade in the bike and get a new lc, will the processes be troublesome?

Nope, just bring ur bike along with it 'geran' & insurans to the bike shop/dealer.

@ u want to use ur current bike registration number on the new bike?

yup..in my place(perak) those 2nd LC's with plate no. AF*(2005-) can get around 4k++ and the newer 2nd with
plate no AG*(2007-) around 5k++. Better get new one coz no worries watsoever bout the bike cond.

But i've lurking to a couples of bike shop..quite hard la to find 2nd LC. I'd planned to get one oso...as a "project" bike

Another thing is, my bike's roadtax just expired.... do i need to renew it 1st or straight i can take the bike go trade-in? Bout the bike registration num, i heard that if wanna use back the current registration num on a new vehicle, have to pay ard rm400 if i'm not mistaken.... Btw, my current location is in KL.... I still haven't go for surveying bikes price.... Do u think usually how much the shop will take my 125zr yr '09 and mileage is ard 6k+ if i trade in and take a new lc?

HArga lc ada gan tak ada klac ... dalam rm 6500 ke atau dah murah lagi?

renew it first. If go trade-in maybe can oso(depend on the bike dealer) but later he cut ur bike resale value la, lets said
if ur 125z worth around 5k, without the roadtax/insurans the bike value could be deduct to 4.6-4.7k.

And bout ur bike, oso depend on the dealer/shop la. If ur lucky they could take it for high price. Example i'd trade my 2003
sr lagenda, 1st shop i go want around 1.8k, then i went to 2nd shop he want 2.2k for my bike.

And another thing...NEVER expected high price when ur trading ur old bike. And in ur case..ur 125 quite new & low mileage
some more.. I think u can get around 4+ - 5k when u traded dat bike. And once again...don't expect HIGH price




LC ES - rm65xx (not included roadtax/insurance etc)
LC SS - rm62xx (not included roadtax/insurance etc)

**price above on my place..dono if difference shop/place = diff prices

hurmmm still same price before

so i should keep waiting for the 1st service then can full throttle it?
its kinda hard now to reach even 90km with 2/3 throttle x.x

thanks alot for the info. I've just went and asked the price for a new lc.... They said, for my bike, they will take for 4k+ and the new lc OTR cash price is rm6.8k while loan OTR is rm7.2k......

09's 125z wif 6k mileage selling for RM4k++ i dun tink it is worth it cuz i saw a 125zr selling for RM4k+ (2005/2006) wif mileage 50k km++ =.=''' Anyway it is juz my opinion... Btw how much u bought 125zr tat time? 7K??

actually i dont think it is worth it too.... but 2-stroke bikes value will be lesser isnt it? I've calculated the instalment and if let's say the loan price is rm7.2k, if d/p is 4.2k... so that means loan is 3k and its rm250 per mth for 1 yr and rm125 per mth for 2yr.. and with the high maintenance of 125z, i think its worth it for long run....

hmm 2/3 throttle ? on which gear.. maybe u should play with the torque.. is very easy to get 100kmph as long as u know when to change gear and how u play with your throttle.

my es lc were stock and as far as i know, i used:
gear 1 [1-20km]
gear 2 [20-30km]
gear 3 [30-60km]
gear 4 [the rest]

is this speed correct with those gears ratio?

p/s: what is torque?

This post has been edited by Sadru: Feb 22 2010, 10:29 PM

mine..
gear 1 [1-30km]
gear 2 [30-70km]
gear 3 [70-100km]
gear 4 [100-140km]
thats with stock exhaust and CDI..

Ok this is how I ride my bike.. most of the time when I'm not riding agressive
gear 1 [1-20km]
gear 2 [20-40km]
gear 3 [40-80km]
gear 4 [80- and beyond]

but when I'm riding agressive as in I want to speed

gear 1 [1-30km]
gear 2 [30-60km]
gear 3 [60-90km]
gear 4 [90 - and beyond]

My bike is ES and everything is STOCK. So far I've tested 120kmph on with a pillion doing around 125kg overall. Haven't try full throttle yet.. Not guts haha. But last week I went up balik pulau doing some stress ride on my ES.. not bad I must say. But I still say my OLD STOCK SS is better in power n torque. Hope this help..

wtf! are those after 1st service or not?
walao! crazy la u guys! gear 2 and 3 till 90km!

dint u guys hear those echoing scream coming from your engine? mine traveling on gear 3 at 60km already like.. GIMME MORE GEAR!! IM DYING!!!

am i totally wrong here? correct me guys!

something is wrong with ur bike..
before and after 1st service almost the same..
no echoing scream from mine..only a bit rattle from the clutch..

did u check ur engine oil level?

This post has been edited by serigala: Feb 23 2010, 12:05 AM

im not too sure about that, might gonna have to check it tomorrow. dem im super noob in this even after reading those manual x.x

to be honest...ur 125z actually worth more than 4k+.. But as i already stated before...never expected high price when trading ur bike.. Bcoz
those dealer will feel somewhat "rugi" if they take ur bike for 5k & sell it for around 5.5k something

And another thing, good luck with ur new bike. And welcome to 135Lc unofficial "club"

i've already decided to trade in my bike and take a new lc 2moro.... i saw the white blue color and i'm gonna book that color....

check engine oil level..then try to start and hear carefully where the noise come from..

for ES..some noise from the clutch is normal since the bar at the clutch plate cover is built that way(if any1 have open the clutch plate cover they will notice it)

haha.. sadru bro, I'm not asking u to break your engine or what.. this is how I do it.. My es alr 1,700km atm. And of coz I only tried to hit 100kmph after 1000km. I don't dare if it's not after 1000km.

n gear dragging.. err how to say.. do it slowly lo such as
gear 1 [1-xkm] try to get it to 20-25km b4 changing gears..
gear 2 [25-45km]
gear 3 [45-65/70]
gear 4 [xx]

of coz gear 1 cannot drag till 100 or what la.. it's impossible.. n yes ES is noiser de the engine esp dragging the gear. but u need to play with gear momentum to get the torque so that your bike can accelerate to go faster ma..

already change BRT hyperband cdi,shark 62mm racing block,racing clutch spring,mainjet 135,remove kotak angin,and few tuning by the foreman..now tgh pantang 2 mggu..performance = tip top!

This post has been edited by villa07: Feb 23 2010, 09:02 AM

mine...

1st gear - up to 25km/h
2nd gear - 20-50@60km/h
3rd gear - 50-80@90km/h
4th gear - 80-smpai die bleh pegi ler... dlm 140km/h

btw, mine is ES n stock. it's normal rite?

seem normal for me..

moto std mmg top plg jauh 140 bro..b4 modi my bike also like that la

I remember last time when my bike stuffed with performance parts:
using sprocket 15-37

1st gear - 30-35kph
2nd gear - 90-100kph
3rd gear - 130-140kph
4th gear - 180kph-outmeter

But now all stock except cam:
1st gear - 20-25kph
2nd gear - 70-80kph
3rd gear - 100-110kph
4th gear - 140-160kph (170kph on highway)

wat cam u using bro?

Yo dude, just wondering if shark has dome piston? How much is the racing block alone?
My 58.5mm piston is slightly loose when engine is cold. The metal quality isn't good at all. RM150 bucks stuff really cannot last long.

Here's my record with standard 15-39 sprocket
1st - 50
2nd - 90
3rd - 130
4th - 160

Using CMS cam.
B4 this already use stock , Yoshi, Gtracing and Ride-it.
CMS and Ride-it no diff in terms of performance.

edit:
Just now during out for lunch, test back my 1st gear can reach 30-35kph only. U charge can get 50kph, thats good acc....

This post has been edited by rainingzero: Feb 23 2010, 01:47 PM

i'm not sure..but when the foreman pasang yesterday,the piston is a bit tight..the foreman asked me to 'pantang' bout 2 to 3 weeks..then u can hentam habis-habisan..hehe..
he show me someone's racing block..brand mds 60mm..the block sudah pecah bcoz he said that man lenjan smpai outmeter..haha..damn laju! he said must wait until the piston slightly loose..my piston isn't the dome one..like the std only..racing block alone in Jln Sentul area around rm180(take out)..siap pasang around rm250..my foreman i met yesterday said he also ada workshop at his house..open until 2am..he can install 62mm block only rm180 siap upah pasang..haha..damn rugi! tp dia set moto memang best lah!

I've went and place an order for y135lc white blue color this morning.. the bike shop said its gonna take 2-3 days to come out....

i got LC SS rm 6.4k ontheroad



This post has been edited by sleyer: Feb 23 2010, 05:57 PM

CMS and Ride-It is the same company
my rev cut sets at 12k rpm. So can go up to 50kph with 1st gear. 2nd gear onwards can't go up that high ady, since no enuf torque after 10k rpm.


This means the carburetor settings is incorrect. It is too lean until the engine overheat and letup !


welcome guys !!

wana ask u guys... those who use carb frm 2-stroke bikes... do u all close the 2t inlet, if yes hw u do it? some are using 'gam besi'... any other methods?

wowww.. i noticed a new thread coming just now.. hahahaha...

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Added on February 24, 2010, 3:19 amnowadays a lot Lcian using a Shell Rimula X EO for diesel vehicle to be used as motorcycle EO.. i will give a try, since in MBC there's so many testimonial about it

This post has been edited by kInOzAwA: Feb 24 2010, 03:19 AM

seems like i can't find any HDEO near my place. Already search at shell and mobil petrol pump but can't find any HDEO. I can only manage to find shell rimula r3x 5liter...1 litter pack nowhere to be found...

But still MBC'ian said Mobil SD is the best. However, some accident do occured using this HDEO. Some forumer got their clutch burned etc. so i am quite worried regarding this matter...

About engine oils, for 135lc, should use semi-synthetic or full-synthetic is better?

now my bike reaching 80km will start vibrating! and its on gear4 already. o well i might as well wait for the 1st service at 1k km .

time to drive slowly.. i hope my bike wont semput after sent it for 1st service x.x

I remember i started to lap after 200km =X cuz i cant wait anymore to pawn those Form5 gina 2 years ago lol~ luckily my engine is stil okay.. Currently my bike gone crazy sometimes, juz like what Sadru said... Not only me Calvin experienced it as well, i can feel my engine crying n suffering even at 70kmh (in 4th gear)... Once my engine started to cry i wil stop reving it high cuz i scare (internal bleeding XD).. But it is juz sometimes =)

200km? dam u crazy for speed man! i wonder hwo come your bike still attached x.x

did u check ur engine oil level?care to tell us?