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 Nexus One LYN Official Review & Testing, Our very own testing playground on N1 :)

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post Jan 15 2010, 01:12 AM, updated 16y ago

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Those who are interested in purchasing the Nexus One, please contact irwan6179 or BearBrick. Do not ask in the forum again on "Where to buy Nexus One in Malaysia". If you want to own it, pay the price he asks for coz he goes through a lot of troubles for you to get the N1 in Malaysia. Otherwise, get it yourself. :)

After such a long wait, watching other mouth-watering and hand-itchying beta testing on the Google Nexus One mobile phone, finally we have obtained our own unit (codenamed "Guinea") to satisfy our own beliefs, clear our own doubts and of course, help Androiders to make their mind before purchasing the Nexus One..

Before we begin our extensive discussion, I would like to remark here that this review is NOT in comparison to Apple iPhone particularly. What I will be sharing with you guys is as unbiased personal opinions as possible which may not be in sync with everyone's thoughts. So lets keep this discussion clean and beneficial to us.

Also, for now, this review is not complete as some parts will be answered over the long run considering I just got the phone today and the battery was less than quarter charged.

The first part that you guys may want to know about the Nexus One is the packaging. Its a neatly done white box with 4 google colors along the sides. A clear "Nexus One" with Google's logo is clearly written on the box itself. Once again, its a Google's product, so it has to be simple just as simple as their home page is. Upon opening up the White box, you will be presented with your Nexus One phone followed by a pouch, quickstart quide, warranty disclaimer, charger, USB cable and earphones. Clearing doubts: The charger supports 110V - 240V within one adapter. The USB cable and the socket charger are separate although the USB cable can also be used for charging purposes. One thing I was disappointed with was the SDcard shipped with it. First its only 4GB (when it can support up to 32GB), secondly its only class 2! That means, I still will have to go out and get a better SD card soon..

In a Nutshell
Upon holding Nexus One in your palms, the first thing that captures your attention is the back cover. This really is very hard to explain. It has a "smooth", "rubbery", yet "solid" touch which I have not experienced on other gadgets I have owned so far..For HTC Hero owners, if you can immagin, the feeling is somewhere in between the mixture of the metal and the plastic cover of your Hero..The color of Nexus One is very similar to HTC Hero bronze. The curves and size will make you feel the weight of the money you spent on this phone..If you could bend your HTC hero like a plasticine, you can actually get a mold of Nexus One from the Hero itself..Under the hood, lies a 1500mAh battery ready to juice the 1Ghz Snapdragon, all set to take on any mobile applications with intense requirements..However, unlike HTC Hero which has a chin bend at the bottom, I personally think that Nexus One's protection will be lesser than that of Hero..If you put the set upside down, the touching surface is the trackball and the earpiece speaker..With a little pressure, the screen can come into contact with the surface, so I will give Hero a plus for this..

Boot and Homescreen
I tested my first run of Boot which took roughly 18 seconds to reach the PIN input page and about 35 seconds in total boot time..It still is slow for a 1GHz processor but then again, this is stock unrooted ROM so I don't really mind this yet..Once the homescreen appears, you are in full control..The swiping effect is smooth..So far I have not felt any lags at all..When I say "lag", I mean a few milisecond lag..The transition is so smooth, you can even "grab" it half way like as if it was expecting you to do that..Whats best about the homescreen, like most of us know already is the dynamic background..I have to say, apart from the Nexus One, Grass, Smoke and Water Ripple, the other backgrounds are really not that appealing..While the good news is that you can develop your own dynamic backgrounds and use them on your homescreen..

3G and Wifi connectivity
This is one of the features you guys have been waiting for me to write about. I don't know who was complaining about the 3G, but here is my own experience..I went into the internet settings, there were no APNs setup for Maxis (expected). I made a new APN, defined the fields as I remembered them (I am used to setting up Maxis 3G APNs so I actually memorize all the fields)..Without having to redo this, I was already connected to the 3G connection in not more than 7 minutes. Then I said, this couldn't be just it. I have to find the flaw. I visited this forum (as recorded in YouTube) and you can judge it yourself already. I was connected for about 30 minutes. Browsed my emails, surfed some pages, checked facebook, wasted time on the browser and I had no connection timeout AT ALL! So much that my battery warned about having another 15 minutes. As for the Wifi, I don't want to talk about home Wifi..I tested PUBLIC Wifi! And it was also seemless! To be honest, I really didnt face any browsing issues AT ALL! Even on multiple open windows..I do agree that flash sites will load slower compared to static sites..As you can see in the video, LYN site was taking hardly 3 - 5 seconds to transit to the next page :)

Multitasking
The multitasking is good. Switching apps is fast. But thats about it. I have not tested with multiple background processes testing yet. But switching applications is really neat!

GMail
GMail on Nexus one has a slight difference from that on the HTC Hero. Not that much though. So far, I have noticed the nice way of notifying the process done. Still, I think this application can be improved a lot. Personally, I use GMail rather than POP3, and being a Google Phone, I expected much changes on the GMail client. Just one cool feature for example would have been HTML input support. Also, I haven't finalized this, but when forwarding an email, you can't edit the text that you are forwarding..I will have to verify this once again though.

POP3 E-mail
This feature will be tested soon as the phone is still charging.

Voice Cancellation
As you may have realized already, there are two microphones on the Nexus One. One at the bottom and one at the back near the camera. When talking on the phone, the second camera microphone captures the noise and cancels it out from the output. I did try this by the roadside and compared it with my Hero. While the noise really was reduced, the resulting sound was not that loud though. This means, if your friend is also in a noisy place, then he will have problems listening to you (unless you scream or shout of course..lol..)..One of the forum members also called me when I was playing with my Nexus One and at that time I was by the roadside..He didn't even realize it..Let him post a testimonial for this part :)

Camera & Camcorder
Have you ever used a camera that is ready to snap the next picture in less than 1 sec? Well, this is what I experienced as I was playing with the camera. The camera snaps focuses, snaps, and gets ready for the next image..All this in about 3 seconds only :) The camcorder reocorded video like a snap and also didnt have any noticable lags yet. SO far, its the best camera app on any mobile phone's I've seen.

GMaps
This feature is yet to be tested soon :)

Keyboard
This one is a great discussion! The keyboard sensitivity is remarkably improved! I almost didnt had any typos at all today! HOWEVER, the layout somehow has changed a bit and I prefer the HTC Hero's keyboard layout. Example, for a comma, you have to go into the special chars mode whereas in Hero, it was available in normal keyboard too. When you type long emails, you find this really annoying!

Rotation
If you have seen rotation on HTC Hero, Nexus One's rotation is going to surprise you ;) I want to keep the rest for your surprise! haha!

Functional Buttons
Okay guys, some of you read from other blogs about the functional buttons being hard to press? The answer is.....Right...and wrong :) Actually, the "area" covered for each button is rather small..I already set my mind as "Opps, too hard to press..They were right about this!" when I started using the Nexus One..But after a while, I got used to pressing it accurately, so now my answer is "Nope, it just needs a little practise ;)"

Voice to Text
To be honest, it sucks! No joke! LOL! I've never been a fond of VTT actually..In fact, after I root my N1, I will just unmount it maybe..lol..depends though..We are asians la..our accent is totally different..I tried "FM radio" on the VTT and it googled "F review" for me..After that I didnt bother to test further..LOL

Bluetooth File Transfer
Bluetooth was tested between the Nexus One and the macbook. I paired the device. A pairing I have never done before. Both macbook and Nexus One displayed the same pairing code (without my input!). I dont know how it happens. Unlike other bluetooths where I have to enter the pairing code, this didnt have to. After the auto-pairing, I transferred a few files at an average transfer speed of 130Kbps..It started off at 172Kbps then slowed down to 130Kbps thus maintaining the speed around that point..Not bad..Although I'm much of an SSH / FTP over Wifi fan since you can get speeds like 1 - 3 Mbps :P

AMOLED Screen
The amoled..Another MUST addition on the review..How can I miss that? This is very important!
The screen, really is SUPERB! There is a power controller widget which has these buttons:
1. Wifi
2. Bluetooth
3. GPS
4. Sync
5. Screen Brightness <-- This button is my favorite!

The screen brightness button dynamically changes the screen brightness..There are 3 levels..
First level is very dark..Excellent in uses when you are in a dark room (I used this in my bedroom yesterday and it was very relaxing to my eyes)..
Second level increases the brightness for normal brightness usage like indoor daytime usage..
Third level increases it even more..Thats for your outdoor usage..This brightness can actually be used in all conditions as its just makes the colors vivid!

Now, u must be wondering "where the hell did the auto-dim feature go?"..Its still there..Under those three levels, it does vary the brightness in those three levels too depending on the amount of light available..The button is for your own usage..For your own relaxation..Especially if you're a heavy user like me and will be using it over long hours :)

Under the sunlight, there is one drawback undeniably which is the sun glare on the screen..It was still useable though..
Comparing to Hero, Hero had less glare, but screen less bright compared to Nexus One..

Marketplace
I dont want the current Android users to be jealous, but the marketplace for Android 2.1 is seriously AWESOME! It is very well organized compared to the older market. Will start purchasing and downloading soon to see how efficient it is :)

Also guys, its an original US set, thats why it DOES have marketplace built in..Not sure about SG / HK units :)

Now, here are the answers for our personal testing list:

• Will get hot from extensive use with charger on and battery removed (If possible)
Updated: Guys, I have started to believe that the Nexus One does heat up over prolonged usage. I am not talking about plugging in the charger. I'm talking about normal usage on battery! Its not "HOT"..Its just "warm"..I used to have these heat ups on Hero as well, but Nexus One has slightly a little bit more than Hero..Perhaps due to its 1GHz processor vs 527MHz of Hero?

• Touchscreen malfunction while touching metal ring at back of phone
I have tried this. I didnt experience it at all. I even tried this while typing SMS or scrolling around. Nope, I didnt see anything of this sort at all.

• SatNav navigation in Malaysia (supposedly theres a work around)
Not yet tested

• Trackball sensitivity
Honestly, its quite similar if not same to HTC Hero. However, somehow when I'm typing a text, I can't use the trackball to place the cursor around where I want. I will re-confirm this with you guys though, but I experienced this the whole day!

• VOIP calls quality (3G and wifi)
Not tested yet. Got any solid aplication for testing? I believe there is no Skype app yet..?

• Quality and sound volume of speakers on handsfree calls and music (apparently too much treble and very soft)
I confirm this fact. Its not that huge of a matter yet, but I am believing under very noisy conditions, this will be heavily affected at that stage.

• Quality of Bluetooth connectivity
Yet to be tested :)

• 3G speed and quality (apparently likes to get out of 3G and switch to EDGE)
I saw this reported by several people too. So far I have not experienced this in 30 minutes usage. On the long run, we will have more results :)

Here is a set I made on Flickr. It has images of unboxing and a video of the 3G internet experience:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shahz/sets/72157623209412486/

Maxis APN for Nexus One
You just need only ONE APN. Fill only the fields specified here. Leave others as they are!
1) Home -> Menu -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Access Points Name
2) Menu -> New APN
Name = Maxis(3G)
APN = unet
Username = maxis
MMSC = http://172.16.74.100:10021/mmsc
MMS proxy = 202.75.133.49
MMS port = 80
APN type = default,mms

Thats all you have to do..It will automatically know which APN to use for what purposes :) Smart eh?

DiGi APN setting
1) Home -> Menu -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Access Points Name
2) Menu -> New APN
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
DIGI Data - Internet
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
APN: diginet
MCC: 502
MNC: 16
APN Type: default

The rest of the field is blank.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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DIGI MMS (WAP 2.0)
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APN: digimms
username: mms
password: mms
Proxy: 203.092.128.160
Port: 80
MMSC: http://mms.digi.com.my/servlets/mms
MMS Proxy: 203.092.128.160
MMS Port: 80
MCC: 502
MNC: 16
APN Type: mms
=========

Celcom APN setting
1) Home -> Menu -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Access Points Name
2) Menu -> New APN
Enter this
Name : Celcom 3G
APN : celcom3g
MMSC: http://mms.celcom.net.my
MMS Proxy : 10.128.1.242
MMS Port : 8080

Thanks to Bahathir for the heads up on Celcom..

Nexus One Review by Bahathir

Ok, after several hours of uage, here is my initial first impression.

1) Look nice, and seem solidly build.
2) The texture of the N1's back, is about similar to my GPS, Garmin Nuvi 755T.
3) Aha, I got the engraved N1. It is a real engrave and it is not a paint coat.
4) I got Celcom 3G (voice+data plan), and with proper APN setting I got a 3G connection.
5) Connection wise, in my house@Balakong, seem to be similar what my Nokia E52. Yeah, I can get good 3G coverage, but, sometime it down to E or GPRS.Actually similar to my E52 and my wife's SE K770i. I'll try again if I going out later.
6) Yeah, the signal bar dropped 1 bar if I hold it.
7) The firmware/software version IS SAME AS the shahz's.
8) Since this is my first SMARTPHONE, I have to get used to it first ...
9) My first apps is... the 'Terminal Emulator'
10) I changed the scaling_governor for cpufreq from the ondemant to conservative. This make the N1 to set the cpu speed lean towards to much lower speed. I hope I can save a bit more of power.
11) Yeah it is 'warm' when, I do intensive browsing and settings.
12) I charged my N1 with my Nokia E52's charger ... Yes, it warm during the charging. It is warm, NOT the hot sizzling hot.. The warmess is about similar as my RAZR V3xx and E52.
13) Yeah, the 'hard buttons' on the bottom is not responsive as other places in the middle of the screen. BUT, I still use it comfortably as I get used to it.
14) N1 is running cool with USB charging. So the heat source is most probably from the high currnet (1A) battery charging from wall charger. IMHO... this is normal.

Ok, I already test the audio SQ very very briefly....
1) With my custom IEMs, UM Mages, the sound is ... flat, with no bump at any frequency spectrum,
2) To my ears, the bass and treble extension is not as wide as other high quality audio devices. BUT, still listenable
3) The audio ouput is just OK, and not as loud as my E52 and Sony Walkman X1000. This is might be the reason the sound is not as dynamic and extended as my Sony Walkman x1000.

I'll update this later.

As a person who just get to know Android and smartphone. My intial verdict : NICE. Actually it is about the same feeling when I use my friend's iPhone 3Gs.
As a hardcore GNU/Linux user : EXCELLENT!!!, excellent computing platform.

Ok... going back to Market

Thanks to shahz, irwan, ... that make this possible.
Thank you

LYN N1 Users' Hardcore complaints (Our very own UHC)
By shahz:
1. The ring speaker really needs improvement. Sound is not loud enough.

By redzanime:
1. The alarm sound is too soft, resulting me wake up by myself finding out its alreeady the time I start to work.

2. The battery drains too quickly. A single charge can last for about 14 hours.
Suggestion: Turn off the "GPS" and use a static wallpaper. You can earily regain about 40% of the battery ;)

3. Bad integration between phone contact, gmail and facebook. I like the Hero integration better.

4. Slow 3g connection for my Celcom postpaid+data service. Even the 512kbps wireless streamyx is much faster at my house.

How to ROOT your N1
As always, I will not be held responsible if your phone turns into a frying pan or a world war III executes.
And don't ask again WHY do you need to ROOT your phone because I am goin to explain here once and for all.

Root itself is the top most location of a folder structure. If you realize, without root, whenever you go into a filemanager, you can only access the sdcard. You cannot modify the system files or folders. So, to gain access to this, you need root access. Root allows super user access and this way, you will get unlimited posibilities of what you can do. Just immagine things this way, if I gave you a terminal computer which you can't change the program files or registry, there would be several things you may want to do but will not be able to do..so the concept is pretty much the same..

So, your phone has a locked bootloader built in it by Google. Actually, Google made this because they want you to unlock the phone and use it as you want. But they also want you to learn the consequences of what can happen if you flash it with a wrong OS. To root your phone, you can use fastboot or superboot (by Paul from Modaco)

I will be using the superboot method here and the resources are on Modaco so I will paste links here. You need to have an account at Modaco.com which is of course free :) I will not upload files here because:
1. Modaco rights have to be protected
2. You will need to determine the version that you can run

First, flash the phone with the superboot image file. Get it from here (if the link breaks, let me know):
http://android.modaco.com/content/google-n...-the-nexus-one/
You must also determine which version of superboot you need to execute. The instructions are crystal clear in that thread. At this point, you already have root. The next steps are optional.

Next, flash the Amon-Ra recovery image:
http://android.modaco.com/content/google-n...recovery-image/

Finally, install the cyanogen mod and see your Nexus one FLYINGGGGG!
http://android.modaco.com/content/google-n...online-kitchen/

And..if you are sooooo noob that you don't even bother to adventure a bit and/or are super lazy to read, here is a spoonfeeding tutorial for you..But seriously, use the above steps and do your homework..We want you to LEARN..not just get what you could..
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Have fun :)

This post has been edited by shahz: Mar 6 2010, 10:56 PM
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post Jan 15 2010, 01:24 AM

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Shahz,

When you have enough free time, please benchmark and compare those N1 problems which we often found it from Google forum. The press and media are reporting "massive" customer dissatisfaction over the problems...Oh man...

Hope to hear from you soon on more of N1 review updates !

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post Jan 15 2010, 01:25 AM

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Good stuff biggrin.gif

Could use fring for VOIP calls.

Anything you dislike yet though?

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great mini review but you got too excited hehe -- i'm sure you are referring to the second mic rather than second camera on the Voice Cancellation.

congrates getting hold of N1 smile.gif
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post Jan 15 2010, 01:28 AM

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The last part of the review are the issues that had a number of people complaining about.


Added on January 15, 2010, 1:30 amOops, on the quality of the speakers being tinny and soft. How bad is it? Does it get really soft and the sound quality is really atrocious to listen to?

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post Jan 15 2010, 01:35 AM

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Nice review shahz. Pity that you don't have enough battery to test the other half of the functions. The 3G and wifi remark is a good one. Looks like it's better than what we have read and heard.

IIRC, N1 has some conflict with Class 6 SD card. Good to hear that the web browser is blazing fast! I have been checking out some video reviews just now of web browsing on N1, and one think worth mentioning is that the webpage is pre-loaded and pre-cache, so it doesn't need to redraw when we scroll down the page. But to what extend? hmm.gif Perhaps we can try squeeze 'guinea' with a heavy webpage? tongue.gif

There is also a remark on the earphone speaker and speaker phone, that it is a bit soft.

By the way, does N1 come with a radio function? How is the quality? There also other concern that the unit getting warm/hot. And screen sensitivity become jumpy after extensive usage.

If there is nothing wrong with it, then it should worth mentioning, to clear doubts. Hopefully other owner can share their experience too. smile.gif
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post Jan 15 2010, 01:36 AM

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Oh and the battery is 1400 mAh tongue.gif
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Just watch the video. The web-browsing is sweet.
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Hi bro... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
Congrat with ur device... even not seen live yet the nexus, 1 thing i already impress, the noise cancel... that time i call u, i tot u still on their off, nothing background sound i heard only ur voice, then u said u talking using nexus,...quiet impress.. anyway wish me luck bro with sucsess for my waiting gadjet soon ,hopefully by monday.....
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shahz dah try voice to text ke belom? and what about facebook support? if possible upload a short video captured using n1 too.

thanks
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post Jan 15 2010, 03:48 AM

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Updated battery issue..I used it for about 45 minutes..Ran several applications, internet on wifi, market apps download, etc and after a while, i noticed my palm was "warm"..I had this on Hero too but nexus has slightly more than hero..No charger attached..Purely battery running..Now that we have proof, we can believe this fact..

However, its not as hot as a laptop as people claimed it to be..umm..how do i define this temperature..sometimes when you have fever, your forehead can be warm..i guess something around that temperature smile.gif

No, don't get me wrong..I am actually worried.. tongue.gif

p/s: What the heck..I made such a long post before this one..its gone!

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post Jan 15 2010, 07:36 AM

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shahz: Your N1's software/firmware info, please... smile.gif

At last!!! Our own LYN N1's review smile.gif

Tentatively, I am getting mine tonight, and it might be a very long night smile.gif. I also have 2 days of weekend holidays, and for sure it is enough for me to familiarized with my FIRST Adnroid phone. I'll be testing it with Celcom 3G unlimited data plan.

IMHO, shahz already covered most of it, and I think I want to cover the audio SQ with my IEMs collections (entry level -> top tier universal IEMs and custom IEMs). Actually I am not expecting too much from N1's audio, and I hope I can give a fair review about the sound signature and sound quality.

The most expensive mobile phone that I ever had is my current Nokia E52 (MYR11xx), and I don't know yet whether the N1 is value for money or not. I also almost bought the iPhone 3Gs with prepaid plan (MYR2450). Yes ALMOST!!... smile.gif. BTW, I ordered my N1 with my gmail email address engraved. So, I think the resale value will be drop significantly. But, I nave no problem with it, because I don't sell my gadgets to others, yet.

I also want my family members and friends to try it, and want to see their first impressions. smile.gif

Thank you. smile.gif

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to ts and bahathir, mind to tell me where u guys got ur respective phones and how much did it cost?
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Actually, I can get it myself and send it to Singapore. Since, Mr irwan6179, started the bulk order from US, and as per my calculation including the hassles, then it is not quite much diffs, so I ordered from him.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=72&t=1285227


TQ.

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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 15 2010, 01:12 AM)
• VOIP calls quality (3G and wifi)
Not tested yet. Got any solid aplication for testing? I believe there is no Skype app yet..?
For VOIP, no native skype voip client yet but you can try using fring or nimbuzz. Both support skype voip call.

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Does the warm co-relate to faster (really faster) battery draining? How about the signal strength at that moment?
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post Jan 15 2010, 08:12 AM

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when this device available on malaysia?
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ Jan 15 2010, 08:12 AM)
when this device available on malaysia?
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It is already AVAILABLE in Malaysia... smile.gif , by importing it from US, HK, UK and SG though. smile.gif

No official announcement yet from HTC or Google about it yet.
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By the way, any chance of this working smoothly with an outlook exchange server?
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Jan 15 2010, 08:45 AM)
By the way, any chance of this working smoothly with an outlook exchange server?
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I'm not sure nexus have build in support for exchange but even if it does the current bundle exchange support available on other android handset is pretty weak. Most android users that must rely on exchange ended up buying the touchdown app on android market ( see http://www.androlib.com/android.applicatio...itroid-pjx.aspx and http://www.nitrodesk.com/dk_touchdownPurchase.aspx ).
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Is your version of Nexus One support chinese? Can read and write chinese from email or SMS? Thanks.
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Bro shahz, 1st of all I wanna congratz u for ur phone safe arrival. And thx a lot for the pics its very2 clear!!
But now I'm using my magic to post and view ur flicker album, I can't play the vid u posted there. Can u provide me YouTube vid link for that video? Thx in advance. And congratulations again!!!!!

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the video quality is pretty poor
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QUOTE(garytey @ Jan 15 2010, 12:24 PM)
the video quality is pretty poor
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What did u expect from personal review.. HD? hehe

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how's the amoled screen performance under sunlight?
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Here we go...

First of all, today's to-do list: POP3 downloading and testing, Bluetooth file transfer and....GMaps! wink.gif

Bahathir, Here are the infos:
Model: Nexus One
Firmware Version: 2.1
Baseband Version: 32.19.00.16U_4.02.02.14
Kernel Version: 2.6.29-gad36b87 android-build@apa26 #1
Build Number: ERD79

Bahathir, can't wait for you to get your N1 too! biggrin.gif Its gonna be awesome!
Considering the voice, trust me, its not as bad as you guys are thinking it is..You got two options:
1. Go with a normal phone which will have a noisy background and chances that you can't make the other person understand a single thing
2. Go with Nexus One which will have reduced amplitude, but clean, noiseless sound

razorboy, with all the costs, calculated, its RM2700

hengsin, I've been using that on my N95 and Hero all this while too..I still wish I had the Skype app since its the only thing I use in Fring and Nimbuzz

Aurora, battery drain is not significant yet..Abiding physics law, by right, heat = more energy wasted.. The battery consumption is not bad..but that means it can be IMPROVED if the heat can be reduced..I'm crossing my fingers in hope that its a ROM bug..Then we have a chance to get it fixed on MoDaCo Custom ROM wink.gif
Signal strength is the first thing I look on all my phones I have ever had..I thought I was the only one..until bahathir confessed it too! Haha..
i'm, getting -63 dBm 25asu

hengsin, exchange is supported..but i will not test it though..I will just test POP3 over SMTP..

mox, it does have chinese support (if you switch the language) smile.gif However, I'm definitely not testing that as I can't read/write chinese..haha..We can ask others (maybe tera? if they can test that feature for you guys later)

Tera, sure..I did upload on YouTube too yesterday smile.gif Here it is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaLbyeej_tM



garytey my HD videocamera is being used by my parents and they are in Holand currently..Sorry about that blush.gif

maiself..I really would post HD if the vid recorder was here..hehe

The amoled..Another MUST addition on the review..How can I miss that? This is very important!
The screen, really is SUPERB! There is a power controller widget which has these buttons:
1. Wifi
2. Bluetooth
3. GPS
4. Sync
5. Screen Brightness <-- This button is my favorite!

The screen brightness button dynamically changes the screen brightness..There are 3 levels..
First level is very dark..Excellent in uses when you are in a dark room (I used this in my bedroom yesterday and it was very relaxing to my eyes)..
Second level increases the brightness for normal brightness usage like indoor daytime usage..
Third level increases it even more..Thats for your outdoor usage..This brightness can actually be used in all conditions as its just makes the colors vivid!

Now, u must be wondering "where the hell did the auto-dim feature go?"..Its still there..Under those three levels, it does vary the brightness in those three levels too depending on the amount of light available..The button is for your own usage..For your own relaxation..Especially if you're a heavy user like me and will be using it over long hours smile.gif

Under the sunlight, there is one drawback undeniably which is the sun glare on the screen..It was still useable though..
Comparing to Hero, Hero had less glare, but screen less bright compared to Nexus One..
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There have been reports on the new now that say baseband version 32.19.00.16U_4.02.02.41 have 3g issue but most 32.19.00.16U_4.02.02.14 work just fine ( note the reverse of the last 2 digit ). Looks like you are the lucky one smile.gif
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YAY! tongue.gif

bluetooth tested guys!!added to the review too..

Bluetooth was tested between the Nexus One and the macbook. I paired the device. A pairing I have never done before. Both macbook and Nexus One displayed the same pairing code (without my input!). I dont know how it happens. Unlike other bluetooths where I have to enter the pairing code, this didnt have to. After the auto-pairing, I transferred a few files at an average transfer speed of 130Kbps..It started off at 172Kbps then slowed down to 130Kbps thus maintaining the speed around that point..Not bad..Although I'm much of an SSH / FTP over Wifi fan since you can get speeds like 1 - 3 Mbps tongue.gif
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Does anyone know how to buy nexus one from singapore? my siblings are there i need them to help me get a few units ><
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Does anyone know how to buy nexus one from singapore? my siblings are there i need them to help me get a few units ><
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They just need to surf to http://www.google.com/phone and order it online from there with a credit card, and the phone gets shipped to their doorstep.
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Shahz,

What's the story with Paid Apps on the Nexus with a Maxis SIM? Still no go?

I'm kind of hoping that it'd be possible, since when the older phones were sold through carriers 30% of the revenue would go to the carriers, and with the nexus being carrier-free, they might not need to check which carrier your SIM card is from.

Then again there's also the silly wanting to cater for "sales tax" reason.

MarketEnabler doesn't run on 2.0+/Nexus right? I might have to keep my G1, buy apps there, and transfer them over to the Nexus manually then ...

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Remember dun get the country specific adapter, it will cost u 19 US, which is not necessary.
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shahada,
No paid apps on this one yet. Remember, Malaysia is not yet supported with Nexus One..We're bringing it in by force..When iPhone was initially released, remember Malaysians being unable to even make an account on iTunes? smile.gif
At least we are still lucky to have the FREE apps available to us..
I have not rooted the phone yet..I'm gonna use it for a week I guess before rooting it..Then I will test spoofing the carrier for paid apps smile.gif

Good Question though smile.gif

dennis5585, you are absolutely right..There is no need for it smile.gif In fact, you just need to buy a small converter adapter that can convert the legs into conventional ones and you're good to go..I believe that adapter will cost not more than RM10..lol
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is the lcd same with iphone 3gs which is "fingerprint resistant"(something like tht)?

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Shahz..congrat man..and nice & simple review...


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3gs lcd got the feature? then it failed misebly

QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 15 2010, 05:08 PM)
is the lcd same with iphone 3gs which is "fingerprint resistant"(something like tht)?
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phua, very easy only, jus go to www.google.com/phone, you need to have credit card, thats all.
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just order phone without any items add on rite?


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dont buy charger?

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yes, dun need to buy, original charger can be used with converter, unless you are very rich, then u might donate 19US =p
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yes, dun need to buy, original charger can be used with converter, unless you are very rich, then u might donate 19US =p
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QUOTE(garytey @ Jan 15 2010, 05:18 PM)
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is not rly fully fingerprint prevention..is just reduce fingerprint,oil n water mark
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yeah..and nope, nexus one does not have that feature..and I think its good..coz the screen is so bright..so vivid, that if you put any filters on this baby, you will waste your couple thousands money invested! It has a pouch too so I'm not using any screen protectors whatsoever..I never even used a screen protector in my Hero and until today I've maintained it scratchless smile.gif When I bought the Hero, I did try to find one, but since it was a new device back then, the screen protector was a rare find..After a week, when I didnt saw any scratches and was getting more and more comfy, I just didnt bother about it anymore wink.gif
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QUOTE(dennis5585 @ Jan 15 2010, 05:31 PM)
yes, dun need to buy, original charger can be used with converter, unless you are very rich, then u might donate 19US =p
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that's a very useful tip for future buyer

by the by shahz, how's the n1 calendar ?
is it just a standard calender for us to add events and stuff

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Regarding the scratch resistance of Nexus One.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfqwKa4bT74


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awesome shit lolz.

i have to wait till end of this month only i can get my hands on it.. sigh.
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Nice review. for the voice cancellation, you meant the noice cancellation feature? Anyhow I think the unit warms up primary if you switch on the wifi or when it's connected. You may want to perform some test as I discovered my 3gs unit is slightly warm during surfing. But when gaming or fooling around with the apps. Even on aggresive usage the isn't that much of heat generated. I bet the same is on nexus one.

I'm curious on the voice to text feature. Is it really that bad? They do have some dictation configuration where by you undergo some simple setup and the phone will adopt to your accent. Increasing the recognition dramactically.

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I was with bahathir this evening. I don't even know how to add APN setting. until i met the second customer who pressed the correct (2nd from left) button. We tested the Voice to Text as well. in a noisy environment, it doesn't do a good job. I've tested Mobile Google apps in Iphone in a quiet room, and I think it's quite impressive. I nexus should be perform the same in a quiet room.

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QUOTE(dpo_99_sl @ Jan 15 2010, 08:22 PM)
that's a very useful tip for future buyer

by the by shahz, how's the n1 calendar ?
is it just a standard calender for us to add events and stuff
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Good question. If you're using Hero, then you are seriously going to love this Calendar coz its hella of an improvement..You want me to define it for you? Think of a "scaled-down Outlook calendar"..thats what you get for the Nexus One calendar wink.gif

QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jan 15 2010, 09:52 PM)
awesome shit lolz.

i have to wait till end of this month only i can get my hands on it.. sigh.
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Chill bro..Believe me, its worth the wait.. smile.gif I was waiting for almost a week too and I understand how you felt..But when you get it in your hands, you don't bother about the time you spent waiting..coz its just worth it..The feeling is wonderful smile.gif Its like "diamonds for ladies, N1 for geeks" smile.gif

QUOTE(Vervain @ Jan 15 2010, 10:38 PM)
Nice review. for the voice cancellation, you meant the noice cancellation feature? Anyhow I think the unit warms up primary if you switch on the wifi or when it's connected. You may want to perform some test as I discovered my 3gs unit is slightly warm  during surfing. But when gaming or fooling around with the apps. Even on aggresive usage the isn't that much of heat generated. I bet the same is on nexus one.

I'm curious on the voice to text feature. Is it really that bad? They do have some dictation configuration where by you undergo some simple setup and the phone will adopt to your accent. Increasing the recognition dramactically.
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Yeah, I meant the noise cancellation..Well, the unit warm up is significant though..At one point, you actually are alarmed with a thought "is this my palm heat?"..Anyway, today I have been playing for sometime, even made almost 45 mins call but the unit has not heated up today..Rather a weird scenario really..

As for the VTT, I will do another testing for you and see how it goes smile.gif


Added on January 15, 2010, 11:29 pmOh crack! I should've shared it earlier with you guys..
Maxis users, I'll post the N1 APN in the first post..I'm so sorry guys..

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post celcom as well...
if anyone could
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heat is the main killer for electronics gadgets.

so, about the heat, is it possible that after long usage + charging will burn the phone internal IC??

any1 encounter any phone that generates such kind of heat b4?

maybe turning off some fancy apps in the phone will reduce the heat?

still thinking whether shud i get the phone or not? dilemma, dilemma.
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Like i said, it only heats up when intense usage is done


Added on January 16, 2010, 2:33 amWell guys, I've finished testing the POP3 email on Nexus One..Although only 2 emails were sent, they loaded really fast..I am now removing the spam mail officially and uploading the video for you guys..


Added on January 16, 2010, 2:31 amHere's the YouTube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RPiaXXDq1M

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I should be getting my Nexus One tomorrow. Hope it works fine with Digi.
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yay..one more addition to our nexus one team smile.gif
Shouldn't be a problem with DiGi..If you want to set your APN, refer to my first post and change the values to that of DiGi smile.gif
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we really should start a list somewhere on the members of Nexus One users... will only get mine next month when i go to HK
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does multitouch make any difference since this is either disabled in nexus one

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does multitouch make any difference since this is either disabled in nexus one
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It does when it comes to surfing net
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Ok, after several hours of uage, here is my initial first impression.

1) Look nice, and seem solidly build.
2) The texture of the N1's back, is about similar to my GPS, Garmin Nuvi 755T.
3) Aha, I got the engraved N1. It is a real engrave and it is not a paint coat.
4) I got Celcom 3G (voice+data plan), and with proper APN setting I got a 3G connection.
5) Connection wise, in my house@Balakong, seem to be similar what my Nokia E52. Yeah, I can get good 3G coverage, but, sometime it down to E or GPRS.Actually similar to my E52 and my wife's SE K770i. I'll try again if I going out later.
6) Yeah, the signal bar dropped 1 bar if I hold it.
7) The firmware/software version IS SAME AS the shahz's.
8) Since this is my first SMARTPHONE, I have to get used to it first smile.gif...
9) My first apps is... the 'Terminal Emulator' smile.gif
10) I changed the scaling_governor for cpufreq from the ondemant to conservative. This make the N1 to set the cpu speed lean towards to much lower speed. I hope I can save a bit more of power.
11) Yeah it is 'warm' when, I do intensive browsing and settings.
12) I charged my N1 with my Nokia E52's charger smile.gif... Yes, it warm during the charging. It is warm, NOT the hot sizzling hot.. The warmess is about similar as my RAZR V3xx and E52.
13) Yeah, the 'hard buttons' on the bottom is not responsive as other places in the middle of the screen. BUT, I still use it comfortably as I get used to it.
14) N1 is running cool with USB charging. So the heat source is most probably from the high currnet (1A) battery charging from wall charger. IMHO... this is normal.

Ok, I already test the audio SQ very very briefly....
1) With my custom IEMs, UM Mages, the sound is ... flat, with no bump at any frequency spectrum,
2) To my ears, the bass and treble extension is not as wide as other high quality audio devices. BUT, still listenable
3) The audio ouput is just OK, and not as loud as my E52 and Sony Walkman X1000. This is might be the reason the sound is not as dynamic and extended as my Sony Walkman x1000.

I'll update this later.

As a person who just get to know Android and smartphone. My intial verdict : NICE. Actually it is about the same feeling when I use my friend's iPhone 3Gs.
As a hardcore GNU/Linux user : EXCELLENT!!!, excellent computing platform.

Ok... going back to Market smile.gif

Thanks to shahz, irwan, ... that make this possible.
Thank you


I added my N1's HOME screenshot smile.gif


Added on January 16, 2010, 12:46 pmOk, I need to try this. smile.gif

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...342#post5363342

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Mind grabbing a pic on the engraving? Wanna see what kinda fonts are used.
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Here you go.

IMHO, the font is like Arial or Helvetica.
Enjoy smile.gif

p/s: If someone found this phone in future, please do contact me at the email address smile.gif

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ehh..the email address u put urself or wat?
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google engraved it. need to pay extra cost
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Yes, it is my email address. smile.gif
Engrave: FREE. but.. the it may cost you the RESALE value.
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i tot thr will be Google word instead of htc thr
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does it come with google maps navigation enabled?
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The Google wording is on the top, near the camera, which is not shown in the picture.
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How does the US$19.99 AC adapter for Singaporean buyers look like? Pic?
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 16 2010, 01:29 PM)
Here you go.

IMHO, the font is like Arial or Helvetica.
Enjoy smile.gif

p/s: If someone found this phone in future, please do contact me at the email address smile.gif
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Ah cool thx for the pic... now have to consider if wanna get mine engraved a not... hmm.gif
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First of all, congrats to Bahathir on his Nexus One! biggrin.gif
Also, thanks to him for submitting another review for LYN. I have posted the review on the first page so everyone can read it conveniently.

The engraving looks lovely bro! And to those who are going to get Nexus One, if you do not plan to sell it in the future, make it yours by engraving it smile.gif I wanted to engrave mine too, but considering that it would queue and slow down the delivery, I didn't include it biggrin.gif

Bahathir, actually, I also switched the cpufreq governor to conservative but then decided to switch it back to ondemand. I think I need it to "store" my juice when I need it. Its a 1GHz monster and I really don't want it to use it modestly..haha..

I have to say, my surfing and GMaps has been really interesting knowing that it has the power it needs anytime, anywhere smile.gif

I'm starting to think, if this is the direction of superphones now, we might as well expect a dual core processor in Nexus 2.0 tongue.gif Who knows?

I am looking forward to see what Apple has in their hood to answer Nexus One. Undoubtedly, whenever people see my Nexus One, they just try really hard to compare it with iPhone..There are only three things Android needs now to compete with iPhone and give them a nice spanking, and they are:
1. Apps
2. Apps
3. and more apps!

Thats all!


Added on January 16, 2010, 6:52 pminnards, currently, it comes with a flat pin US adapter. For other countries, all you will get is just three pins or two rounded pins plug (which you can actually convert yourself with a cheaper adapter). The power ratings do support Malaysia too. So, I don't find it difficult to use at all.

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can u put some picture or video taken by this phone?
thanks..
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Noted that Chinese is supported. Are there options for other Asian languages as well, esp Japanese?

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Hey, Shahz

When your free and have done rooting and flashing your N1 can you do a guide for it please? Just if your free.

Thanks,

I like your brief review was really good. Helped me make up my mind whether or not to get the N1. = ]

Btw, have you encountered any dust under the screen? or clicking noise when you press down on the corners?

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QUOTE(JasonSky @ Jan 16 2010, 06:00 PM)
Ah cool thx for the pic... now have to consider if wanna get mine engraved a not...  hmm.gif
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n google got terms tht if u engrave it,u cannot refund back..
THATS when u want to refund for some reason

they got 14days return policy
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Even if you can refund it (non-engrave), still USD45 stocking fee will be deducted from the total refund.

So, yes, you have pros and cons about on 'engraving'. But, if you like Google, then the engrave is the best way to show your LOVE to Google.. smile.gif he heh he he


Added on January 16, 2010, 8:16 pmshahz : Since the N1 is quite hot selling item in Malaysia, how about buy another one with engraving + firmware update. Then sell your current N1 to others. smile.gif, IF, HTC or telcos not bringing it yet to My. :

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Bahathir..Great suggestion..I wonder if anyone wants to buy my N1 for the same price I bought it..haha..Actually, I don't mind having no engraving..Thing about this N1 is, its very special to me and you guys know why smile.gif I can't just trade it because it has no engraving..Who knows if I have more spare cash in the future, I might just buy another one for myself with the engraving.. happy.gif
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Here is a sample image taken from the camera. Maximum resolution, no effects whatsoever. Taken indoor, and I'm not a photographer. LOL.

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And here is a sample video from the camera. Its on YouTube, so the quality is reduced of course. Don't expect too much from a phone camera, but what you should see here is the framerate of the video. It's a lot better than the HTC Hero if you ask me smile.gif



YouTube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT-ZXivHBCA

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Can one of you proud N1 owners test something for me.

When you're on the phone with someone, are you able to play a song for the person on the other end with the Android music player? My old Nokia 6630 could do this but since then I've not owned a phone that could.
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What is engrave nexus one phome means? What is the different?

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Bahathir..U got luck with MMS so far? I used to use MMS on handcent on my hero..But on N1 the default SMS application is too good for me to move to Handcent again..Haven't been able to send MMS yet..
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Here is my N1's APN setting for Celcom 3G.
p/s : The MMS setting also can be done in singgle APN setting.

This is for Celcom 3G Postpaid 3G plan.

1) Home -> Menu -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Access Points Name
2) Menu -> New APN
Enter this
Name : Celcom 3G
APN : celcom3g
MMSC: http://mms.celcom.net.my
MMS Proxy : 10.128.1.242
MMS Port : 8080

That's it.. Make it as default and try to send and receive the MMS.

TQ.


Added on January 16, 2010, 10:59 pmshshz: Sorry, I dont' have maxis... but, you can replace the fields with your Maxis setting.

Note:// Yup my N1 3G is sometime better then my wife's SE K770i, which are using celcom.


Added on January 16, 2010, 11:00 pmshahz: You can put this settings in the first page of this thread. smile.gif

Thanks again.

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refer to page 3 last post's picture then u will know
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 16 2010, 08:48 PM)
Here is a sample image taken from the camera. Maximum resolution, no effects whatsoever. Taken indoor, and I'm not a photographer. LOL.

And here is a sample video from the camera. Its on YouTube, so the quality is reduced of course. Don't expect too much from a phone camera, but what you should see here is the framerate of the video. It's a lot better than the HTC Hero if you ask me smile.gif

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dude, it looked quite blur. Were you nervous when taking the snapshot? Or the lens is dirty?

* my N1 is on its way from HK...ETA next week wink.gif
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Can i have my own modfied engrave? or it is a must to put gmail address as engrave?
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You can put any wordings....up to 2 lines...

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bahathir, have u tried sending an MMS? Did it go thru?
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You can put any wordings....up to 2 lines...
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I am so tempted to root this phone already tongue.gif I think I'll do it soon..
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QUOTE(minimegadget @ Jan 16 2010, 09:57 PM)
hope all previus HERO owner sell there phone cheap lor to me hehehehe

no money by nexus
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we can discuss about this lol.. still waiting for more review about this nexus. at least after 1 month use.. thumbup.gif
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guys i'm another nexus one user here.. got it 2 days ago from mr irwan.. the phone is now replacing my 3GS. it's a tough decision bcoz iPhone is such a great phone.. but my eagerness to test out new stuff is the main factor for all this to happen..

so far i've no problem with the nexus one, except i felt the typing is not that smooth as iPhone. the word come out on the screen is slower than my finger.. the feeling was the same like using omnia last time..

other than that it's a good phone. like shahz, i just need more apps then only i can be happier than now smile.gif
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irenic..really ahr? I used iPhone too and I think the Nexus One's keyboard is much agile..I made lots of errors on iPhone though maybe because my thumbs are huge..but on Nexus One, I have 99% accuracy..

Btw guys since there are more Nexus One users here now, my Nexus One has officially

ROOTED!
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I'm still unable to go online with digi in my nexus one. Just to confirm, apn name is diginet and everything else is pretty much blank right? I even tried blank uid/pass, digi/digi, guest/guest. All doesn't work. I'm not trying to get mms running at this point, data first! Do I need to restart the phone or something before I can get the apn to take effect?
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nope..try checking it out on DiGi's website..I bet they must have APN settings..


Added on January 17, 2010, 5:20 amor try this..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/681931

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it looks like i did have to restart the phone. not sure what i was doing wrong but once i restarted my phone data worked.
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bahathir, have u tried sending an MMS? Did it go thru?
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Shahz, yupss.. tbh i never had difficulties to sms while driving with iPhone.. but not with this nexus haha laugh.gif

erm shahz, what's the benefit of rooted nexus anyway? hehe sorry if it's a silly question.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(paultantk @ Jan 17 2010, 05:17 AM)
I'm still unable to go online with digi in my nexus one. Just to confirm, apn name is diginet and everything else is pretty much blank right? I even tried blank uid/pass, digi/digi, guest/guest. All doesn't work. I'm not trying to get mms running at this point, data first! Do I need to restart the phone or something before I can get the apn to take effect?
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APN: diginet
MCC: 502
MNC: 16

This is the setting I have on my magic, the rest of the field is blank.

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QUOTE(hengsin @ Jan 17 2010, 09:54 AM)
APN: diginet
MCC: 502
MNC: 16

This is the setting I have on my magic, the rest of the field is blank.
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yeah, mine works now. for some reason i had to reboot the phone for it to work.
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N1 can display unicode and CJK characters. but, you have to install IME for inputting CJK texts.

Here I tried OpenWnn Plus (from Market), and I can simply input Japanese characters. smile.gif



Rooting my N1.. ? ... mmm.. not yet.. I want a much simpler way to root it... ie, similar to androidmagic's modded su utility smile.gif.

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I wish to buy this phone from irwan but worry about the warranty only if anything happen vit it.. Any guidance guys?
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Seems like more and more N1 user here already. I still wonder can we type and read chinese either sms or email fr tis baby. Can anyone confirm on this?
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Writing in 日本語 using N1with OpenWNN.


Added on January 17, 2010, 7:08 pmI also can send SMS Japanese to my wife's phone.

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QUOTE(mox123 @ Jan 17 2010, 06:01 PM)
Seems like more and more N1 user here already. I still wonder can we type and read chinese either sms or email fr tis baby. Can anyone confirm on this?
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it should be able to display chinese, but not typing them
http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-n...tech_specs.html

not sure whether is there any apps in market that allow us to do so
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i've placed my order.... wonder how long will it take to reach singapore? smile.gif
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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 17 2010, 09:49 AM)
Shahz, yupss.. tbh i never had difficulties to sms while driving with iPhone.. but not with this nexus haha  laugh.gif

erm shahz, what's the benefit of rooted nexus anyway? hehe sorry if it's a silly question.. biggrin.gif
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Getting superuser access..Making it totally yours..haha..


QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 17 2010, 02:34 PM)
N1 can display unicode and CJK characters. but, you have to install IME for inputting CJK texts.

Here I tried OpenWnn Plus (from Market), and I can simply input Japanese characters. smile.gif
Rooting my N1.. ? ... mmm.. not yet.. I want a much simpler way to root it... ie, similar to  androidmagic's modded su utility smile.gif.

Thank you.
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What if I give you a super simple method to root it? tongue.gif You know my root procedures are not tough..huahuahua


QUOTE(kennysik88 @ Jan 17 2010, 02:44 PM)
I wish to buy this phone from irwan but worry about the warranty only if anything happen vit it.. Any guidance guys?
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If you worry about warranty, don't think about buying it..If you think about buying it, don't think about the warranty smile.gif I've already rooted my N1 when its not even 1 week old yet..The warranty is void (although I can unvoid it).. lol..I wonder if it makes sense..


Added on January 17, 2010, 8:45 pmdpo_99_sl you CAN actually send chinese messages too smile.gif But additional application needed for it..Good also coz like me, I will not use chinese input for sure..lol..

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QUOTE(Naka7a @ Jan 17 2010, 08:38 PM)
i've placed my order.... wonder how long will it take to reach singapore? smile.gif
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my friend in Singapore ordered his on last monday noon, and he receive it from dhl yesterday

i'm seriously getting poison by the n1, despite a lot of negatives stuff i saw on the net but i think i'm still gonna get it right after my backpack trip

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QUOTE(dpo_99_sl @ Jan 17 2010, 08:46 PM)
my friend in Singapore ordered his on last monday noon, and he receive it from dhl yesterday

i'm seriously getting poison by the n1, despite a lot of negatives stuff i saw on the net but i think i'm still gonna get it right after my backpack trip
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ah.. means i'll expecting mine in around 5 working days or so... thanks for the quick answer!
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QUOTE(Naka7a @ Jan 17 2010, 08:47 PM)
ah.. means i'll expecting mine in around 5 working days or so... thanks for the quick answer!
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my friend told me he need to pay a total of 60+ SGD to DHL when the delivery guy reaches his home
it's for the 7% GST and another 10SGD for handling fees
hope you get your phone soon

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can i know izzit possible to do something to enable the multitouch function in this phone?
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To Singpore's N1's users, please show your sofrwares and firmwares version. Also, do multitouch enabled with your N1?


Added on January 17, 2010, 11:00 pmshahz: Nanti ajar saya macam mana nak 'unvoid' the rooted N1 smile.gif... Please.

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I am a convert of iPhone to future N1 (coming soon) smile.gif . Already hunting for good apps. I've came across a list of favorite from another person in this thread and perhaps something i would start off with. Check the person name "mcosmi" and his fav list.

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/andr...d7a2b8cd9&hl=en

There may be some other better list out there, but this is a good start. It may help for other iPhone converts like myself. Wish me luck on my rehab...

* are there any app which isn't compatible for specific phone like N1? or generally all android phone would be able to run them?
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shahz: MMS ok already ?
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my friend told me he need to pay a total of 60+ SGD to DHL when the delivery guy reaches his home
it's for the 7% GST and another 10SGD for handling fees
hope you get your phone soon
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so how much is the total cost in SG after all the GST & DHL stuffs?
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QUOTE(dpo_99_sl @ Jan 17 2010, 07:40 PM)
it should be able to display chinese, but not typing them
http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-n...tech_specs.html

not sure whether is there any apps in market that allow us to do so
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http://www.androlib.com/android.applicatio...inyin-qjwD.aspx
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Hopefully N1 will arrives in Malaysia next month..hopefully ~ *pray hard*
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 17 2010, 10:50 PM)
To Singpore's N1's users, please show your sofrwares and firmwares version. Also, do multitouch enabled with your N1?
Model: Nexus One
Firmware Version: 2.1
Baseband Version: 32.19.00.16U_4.02.02.14
Kernel Version: 2.6.29-gad36b87 android-build@apa26 #1
Build Number: ERD79

seems like my friend in singapore have the same version as well, though he didn't try out the multi touch on browser yet

QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jan 17 2010, 11:27 PM)
so how much is the total cost in SG after all the GST & DHL stuffs?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1290123

QUOTE(hengsin @ Jan 18 2010, 12:13 AM)
thanks for the info, my friend was looking for it



shahz, the rooting process very similar to hero?
so is it ok to follow you previous rooting guide?
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Hi. A quick question here. Will I be charged for Sirrim thingy if I import it thru SG? Thinking myself to get one from a friend of mine in SG.


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bahathir...dah setel dah MMS issue..Now its possible to send already smile.gif

Okeh, in case anything happens, we 'unvoid' your warranty..haha
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shahz, the rooting process very similar to hero?
so is it ok to follow you previous rooting guide?
This is one big difference of nexus one from previous android phone, it is very easy to root, very little risk of bricking your phone.

There is one pretty good guide here - http://androidandme.com/2010/01/hacks/vide...ot-a-nexus-one/


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Yeah, the rooting process seem to be easy... but the 'Warranty VOID' is not quite easy to me smile.gif... I'll wait, unti someone can 'oem lock' back the bootloader... smile.gif

In unix, there is a boot mode called 'Single mode', where you can get su privilege by default. smile.gif... but, I don't think it is implemented in Android. smile.gif

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Hi there N1 experts,

Thinking of asking my brother to buy one for me from US. Will it work here with Maxis? Any drawbacks?
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Look at the first page of this thread, for the APN setups. Our Android lover's; shahz is using Maxis, and he have no problem with it.


TQ.
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QUOTE(rapster88 @ Jan 18 2010, 03:52 AM)
Hi. A quick question here. Will I be charged for Sirrim thingy if I import it thru SG? Thinking myself to get one from a friend of mine in SG.
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This kinda depends on your luck if customs decides to inspect and hold your package then expect SIRIM to get in the picture.
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Ok, I did test the DL and UL speed with speedtest.net apps, at several places.

1) In my house@Balakong : 3G = 3-4 bars : DL: 651 kbps UL : 185 kbps
2) RnR Serdang/Minlon : DL : 3G = full bar : 1299 kps UL: 155 kbps
3) In my office@Bandar Sri Damansara : 3G = full bar : DL : 256 kbps UL : 119 kbps ; In eveing : DL : 544 kbps; UL : 154

The DL speed is about the same with my previous phones, Nokia E52 and Motorola RAZR V3xx.

But, I am quite puzzled about the UL, because it is much faster then average of 110 kbps with I got from my previous phones.

Thank you...

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1/17/2010 6:59 pm Shipment on Hold. Hong Kong - Hub, Hong Kong
6:58 pm Scheduled to move Hong Kong - Hub, Hong Kong
5:35 pm Clearance processing complete Hong Kong - Hub, Hong Kong
5:35 pm Processed at DHL Location. Hong Kong - Hub, Hong Kong
1:43 pm Transit through DHL facility Hong Kong - Hub, Hong Kong
1/16/2010 5:14 am Depart Facility Cincinnati Hub, OH
2:27 am Processed at DHL Location. Cincinnati Hub, OH
1:56 am Transit through DHL facility Cincinnati Hub, OH
1/15/2010 10:53 pm Depart Facility Northeast Indianapolis, IN
10:53 pm Processed at DHL Location. Northeast Indianapolis, IN
7:04 pm Shipment picked up Northeast Indianapolis, IN
5:44 pm Departing origin. Northeast Indianapolis, IN




any idea why the shipment is on hold from yesterday 6.59 until now also no status??
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i was wondering what is root service?

why we need to root?


as i got my Nexus already

very good
very intresting and
very happy to own

still not finish discovering all the things

gone to market place before

very good ...it is like app store

a lot of new theme can get from there

as for the sound, very dissapointing , not uo to my standard

camera ....okie........video a bit blur and the sound very very bad.....

must know how to adapt on how to use this phone

a lot of time to discover the phone


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QUOTE(JasonSky @ Jan 18 2010, 10:42 AM)
This kinda depends on your luck if customs decides to inspect and hold your package then expect SIRIM to get in the picture.
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Ok say I got unlucky and how much will I have to pay for that?

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Actually, Google does want us to root our phone and get the most out of our Nexus One..But they also want to know the danger of obtaining it..root can be very useful but when its used improperly, it can be hazardous too..You must have the control over the phone and not let others have control over it..In fact, if you see, some apps on the market do require root access too..For if it was something that you shouldn't do, those apps would never have been on the market at the first place smile.gif

rapster88, its better not to get yourself 'unlucky' unless you are willing to pay another RM400 - RM600 for the clearance smile.gif


Added on January 18, 2010, 3:38 pmcosmicmeadow, there is only one drawback..

we will be "stealing" iPhone's internet access..huahuahua...

Don't worry..its an unlocked phone which is ready to catch any SIM that is passed to it (except AT&T if I'm not mistaken for its using different 3G band) but who cares about that too..When you have an unlocked phone, you are not bind to any contract and you can freely pop in any sim card into it..

Jailbreak? Whats that? LOL! No such thing in Android world smile.gif

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shahz,

jailbreak is only needed if you were caught giving sweets to custom officers biggrin.gif

can you check on the Android Market if you are limited on the paid apps? I heard the paid app is only for US. What do you have on yours?

* i think since you've rooted yours, you may not have the limit, but do you recall before rooting it?
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oreo, by default, even after rooting the phone, you don't get access to paid apps..But like i said, with android, sky is the limit and everything can be done. There is a tutorial in another thread stickied here in LYN. Check it out wink.gif I haven't tried it on Nexus One yet. Will do right away.


Added on January 18, 2010, 4:21 pmbahathir, send me a PM bro..I got something for you smile.gif


Added on January 18, 2010, 4:34 pmDamn it..How could I even forget this!

irwan, I have added a link to you in the first post of this thread so those who want to buy N1 will be directed to you..You can handle quota right? You're doing a noble job around here, you deserve a link definitely! smile.gif

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as for the sound, very dissapointing , not uo to my standard

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I already try pairing N1 with SE bluetooth stereo sound no so bad la....headphone I'm using sennheiser........If N1 got equalizer I think can compete SE sound...........
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As my first impression on audio SQ with high quality custom IEMs, it sound OK, with slightly rolled-off high, ie, slightly less clarity and details. Bass and mid is nice and enough.

I just tried the N1 with all my IEMs,

Entry level : Nuforce NE-7Ms : Single dynamic driver : iPhone compatible IEMs. Good bass and mid. Treble is just enough but not too detail or clarity. This IEMs are iPhone compatible IEMs and I can control the music playback with the button at the IEMs. I also can make calls just like normal head-sets.

Mid level :Phonak Audeo PFE 112 : Single armature driver : Better mid and treble clarity than NE-7Ms, but bass quantity is less.

Top tier : Westone UM3Xs : Bass and mid, Wow... more than enough. smile.gif ... clarity just so so. Can hear slight hiss during music pause, but it will goes away in 1-2 seconds. (auto mute)

Custom IEMs : Unique Melody Mages : The best all rounded sound. Mmm..Yeah, a slightly less clarity, details and treble extension.

So, IMO, the N1's sound is just average.


N1 also can pair/bind with my Motorola S705 Bluetooth module using BT A2DP prototocl . So, I can send audio stream wireless-ly and enjoy it with any IEMs/phones. Since the N1 stream out the audio digitally, the SQ only can be evaluate by the bluetooth's modules/head-set.



Thank you.

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what about the facebook application? is it as good as the official facebook app for iphone?
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rapster88, its better not to get yourself 'unlucky' unless you are willing to pay another RM400 - RM600 for the clearance smile.gif
ZOMG! I thought Simrim was like RM 100 - 150 only?
Anyways, I don't get the point of paying for Simrim. Can anybody explain? I'm not a local.

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what about the facebook application? is it as good as the official facebook app for iphone?
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Here is the screenshot of my Wall. smile.gif


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BTW : I am not a heavy FB user, so, I am not sure whether the N1's FB app is enough for you all. To me... mmm.. just as good as the basic web-based FB.

TQ. smile.gif
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 18 2010, 07:42 PM)
Not much different from the web based version. Since I blocked all facebook apps/games, so I don't know how good is the N1's facebook.
Here is the screenshot of my Wall. smile.gif
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looks like iphone's facebook more things to do
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Navigation? ... mmm.. GMap can give DIRECTIONs and the purple line can be seen on the map. I don;t know whether it is good for navigation or not... but enough for route planning.
one thing for sure, the N1's GPS system is superb !:) . Very good sensitivity and with great accuracy. Outdoor/Open sky, N1 can gives 2m accuracy. Satellites locking also not bad all.



Yeah, as I said, I am not a FB heavy user. smile.gif.. But, one thing that iPhone's FB did not have is the 'MULTITASKING' or background notifications. smile.gif
http://www.betanews.com/article/Popular-ap...hone/1252510355



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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 18 2010, 09:30 PM)
Navigation? ... mmm.. GMap can give DIRECTIONs and the purple line can be seen on the map. I don;t know whether it is good for navigation or not... but enough for route planning.
one thing for sure, the N1's GPS system is superb !:) . Very good sensitivity and with great accuracy. Outdoor/Open sky, N1 can gives 2m accuracy. Satellites locking also not bad all.
Does the GMap gives voice Navigation like those similar to Garmin?
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Does the GMap gives voice Navigation like those similar to Garmin?
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ZOMG! I thought Simrim was like RM 100 - 150 only?
Anyways, I don't get the point of paying for Simrim. Can anybody explain? I'm not a local.
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it's best that you travel down to singapore and get the phone back to here yourself
and i heard it's best not to bring the original box along as well

any expert here on 'smuggling' items from singapore to malaysia ?
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GMap = is just a map la... not like Garmin's Nuvi navigation mode.
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 18 2010, 09:30 PM)
Navigation? ... mmm.. GMap can give DIRECTIONs and the purple line can be seen on the map. I don;t know whether it is good for navigation or not... but enough for route planning.
one thing for sure, the N1's GPS system is superb !:) . Very good sensitivity and with great accuracy. Outdoor/Open sky, N1 can gives 2m accuracy. Satellites locking also not bad all.
Yeah, as I said, I am not a FB heavy user. smile.gif.. But, one thing that iPhone's FB did not have is the 'MULTITASKING' or background notifications. smile.gif
http://www.betanews.com/article/Popular-ap...hone/1252510355
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ya it dun have multitasking but it have notifications..whenever got ppl add,post comment,etc, u will get notification even u close the app.that is called Push in iphone... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Lol..let me give you guys some heads up on facebook for Nexus One..I'm a moderate user and have lots of contacts..
The Nexus One has one of the most dynamic ways of handling contacts. This is what you can do:
1. Add your google mail account to your Nexus One
2. Add your facebook account to your Nexus One
What the Nexus One will do roughly less than a few seconds is, it will download ALL your contacts to your Nexus One..What it does, it downloads the facebook profile pic of your friend as the contact's picture.

Now, what you guys must be thinking "I don't want ALL my contacts. My Google is messed with weird emails etc". You don't have to worry about that. There is one checkbox in the contacts which after ticking it, only contacts with phone numbers will be displayed (as in my case, my gmail contacts were now "hidden" and my facebook accounts were listed for those who had included their phone number on their facbeook profiles).

Now, what about the others who didnt insert their phone numbers in thir facebook profile, but you have their profile? No problem..Just create a new contact with the same person's facebook name, and add the phone number to it..Once you hit save, you will realize it did NOT make a new contact. Why? Because it combined with the facebook profile automatically. The person who was not visibile just now, is now visible because you added a phone number smile.gif

And what about those who don't have facebook? No problem. Just make a new contact and you will have it there smile.gif

Whats even better? Once you have settled this once, it automatically synchronises to the facebook and google server. So when your phone is reformatted or whatever happen, just add you fb account and gmail again, and there you go..its all there wink.gif

THAT my friend is the BEST way to utilize facebook for me until now..Even friends of old ages added me on facebook and my nexus one helped getting their number too smile.gif
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Another N1 user reporting in~~
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2 of my nexus sold to the top people in malaysia.
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irwan, i asked u earlier, i have added you a backlink in the top of this page..will u be able to handle quota later? coz AFAIK, each google checkout account can only buy 5 nexus one..
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Select Nexus One users complaining of touchscreen calibration, 3G connectivity issues

As totally awesome and exciting as the Nexus One might be, with any new device there are bound to be some growing pains -- f'rinstance, you might have heard about issues with the phone's 3G connectivity. Well, Google has too (hell, our buddy Erick Tseng even addressed it on The Engadget Show yesterday) and while the cause is less than clear, the company assures us it's working feverishly to get to the bottom of it. Unfortunately, that isn't the only problem newly minted Nexus One owners are noticing. According to a lively discussion on Google's Android forum, some folks are experiencing extreme touchscreen calibration issues after cold booting the phone -- problems that resolve themselves (temporarily) after putting the thing to sleep and then turning it back on. That said, the good folks at Google assure us they're on the case. If it turns out that it's a hardware problem, it'll be covered under your warranty. Software? They'll issue a patch for it. If your phone's having problems and you feel like joining the conversation, hit that source link.

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shah.. i think google don't mind if i create several account.. so far it's okay.

err what is backlink that we are talking about?
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irwan may i know who r the top guys u mentioned just now? biggrin.gif hehe
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irwan may i know who r the top guys u mentioned just now? biggrin.gif hehe
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QUOTE(shenmui @ Jan 19 2010, 12:18 AM)
Select Nexus One users complaining of touchscreen calibration, 3G connectivity issues

As totally awesome and exciting as the Nexus One might be, with any new device there are bound to be some growing pains -- f'rinstance, you might have heard about issues with the phone's 3G connectivity. Well, Google has too (hell, our buddy Erick Tseng even addressed it on The Engadget Show yesterday) and while the cause is less than clear, the company assures us it's working feverishly to get to the bottom of it. Unfortunately, that isn't the only problem newly minted Nexus One owners are noticing. According to a lively discussion on Google's Android forum, some folks are experiencing extreme touchscreen calibration issues after cold booting the phone -- problems that resolve themselves (temporarily) after putting the thing to sleep and then turning it back on. That said, the good folks at Google assure us they're on the case. If it turns out that it's a hardware problem, it'll be covered under your warranty. Software? They'll issue a patch for it. If your phone's having problems and you feel like joining the conversation, hit that source link.

sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Funny isnt it? When iPhone came out, no one was raising any fingers about all these bugs and problems..No one did testing so extended like Nexus One has..They just have issues to raise towards Nexus One because they are expecting the Nexus One to be totally perfect..like 100% perfect..Seriously, if you expect a perfect phone, I suggest you go make your own phone and sell it off! If we start complaining about iPhone, there will be too many to discuss..I will see how iPhone 4G will be accepted then! I want to see if people can test it this extensively. And if no one comes up with a bad review, I will personally bang iPhone so hard that I will expect people to answer me in regards to Nexus One then!

p/s: This message is not intended for you shenmui..Its intended for the person who made that post smile.gif


QUOTE(irwan6179 @ Jan 19 2010, 12:34 AM)
shah.. i think google don't mind if i create several account.. so far it's okay.

err what is backlink that we are talking about?
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irwan..Read the first line in this thread's first thread..You will understand what I am talking about smile.gif From this point, if people still ask "Where to get Nexus One" or if they ask "if this phone is available in Malaysia already?" just don't bother to respond smile.gif

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irwan ... interested to get one unit from you ... but i need to see my bonus end of this month ... hope got extra money for n1 ....

n1 so nice .... pray hard ...
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 18 2010, 10:19 PM)
Lol..let me give you guys some heads up on facebook for Nexus One..I'm a moderate user and have lots of contacts..
The Nexus One has one of the most dynamic ways of handling contacts. This is what you can do:
1. Add your google mail account to your Nexus One
2. Add your facebook account to your Nexus One
What the Nexus One will do roughly less than a few seconds is, it will download ALL your contacts to your Nexus One..What it does, it downloads the facebook profile pic of your friend as the contact's picture.

Now, what you guys must be thinking "I don't want ALL my contacts. My Google is messed with weird emails etc". You don't have to worry about that. There is one checkbox in the contacts which after ticking it, only contacts with phone numbers will be displayed (as in my case, my gmail contacts were now "hidden" and my facebook accounts were listed for those who had included their phone number on their facbeook profiles).

Now, what about the others who didnt insert their phone numbers in thir facebook profile, but you have their profile? No problem..Just create a new contact with the same person's facebook name, and add the phone number to it..Once you hit save, you will realize it did NOT make a new contact. Why? Because it combined with the facebook profile automatically. The person who was not visibile just now, is now visible because you added a phone number smile.gif

And what about those who don't have facebook? No problem. Just make a new contact and you will have it there smile.gif

Whats even better? Once you have settled this once, it automatically synchronises to the facebook and google server. So when your phone is reformatted or whatever happen, just add you fb account and gmail again, and there you go..its all there wink.gif

THAT my friend is the BEST way to utilize facebook for me until now..Even friends of old ages added me on facebook and my nexus one helped getting their number too smile.gif
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not so sure about the gmail u talking about but recently facebook let iphone user sync contacts with fren list too

looks like u love android so much...i just hope enough cash to own this
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my n1 has not been shipped after 2 days.... i wonder when will it start moving!? hurms...
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it might take 3 days to process an order.
then delivery should be 3~4 days to reach Singapore..

mine delays due to cancellation flight..

now just got further update on moving back...
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Anyone know if N1 supports any type of navigation such as garmin since it has GPS? Just got mine a few days back..no time to survey about stuffs..but i know there one icon called car home..with navigation, but i cant get any signal here at mas
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The google navigation only works in USA. IMO


Ref: (RTFP : Read the Fine Print at the bottom of the page)
http://www.google.com/mobile/navigation/#p=default


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Yea..i kinda figured that out..any other program that is outside now?
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Just got my N1 today. I didn't apply for the N1 charger. Have any of you use the HTC Hero to charge your N1? Will it affect my N1 later if I use it with my N1?
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about the facebook thing, i agree that the facebook for android application is inferior to its iphone counterpart.

and shahz, the facebook contact sync isnt exclusive to nexus one only. its the new android 2.1 thats doing the job. i have it on my htc hero and the facebook integration works like a charm. better then htc's own senseUI implementation.

then again, 2.1 on my hero is flying. super smooth. i can imagine it'll do wonders on such a great hardware as nexus one.

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The google navigation only works in USA. IMO
Ref: (RTFP : Read the Fine Print at the bottom of the page)
http://www.google.com/mobile/navigation/#p=default
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There is a hack version of google navigation that can be used here ( with some limitation ). Note that if you install using the direct download link below, it will install another google map application, i.e the hacked version along your current google map.

Download link - http://ul.to/1bsozb/maps3.3.1-brut-no-root-3.apk
xda thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...=navigation+usa

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argh when will Maxis will bring N1 to malaysia!!?!? can't wait leh~ and I heard from my friend that lowyat is selling N1 for Rm2499??? true?
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 18 2010, 09:30 PM)
Navigation? ... mmm.. GMap can give DIRECTIONs and the purple line can be seen on the map. I don;t know whether it is good for navigation or not... but enough for route planning.
one thing for sure, the N1's GPS system is superb !:) . Very good sensitivity and with great accuracy. Outdoor/Open sky, N1 can gives 2m accuracy. Satellites locking also not bad all.
Yeah, as I said, I am not a FB heavy user. smile.gif.. But, one thing that iPhone's FB did not have is the 'MULTITASKING' or background notifications. smile.gif
http://www.betanews.com/article/Popular-ap...hone/1252510355
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iPhone facebook apps no background notification ? Get your facts right before you post something.
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QUOTE(jepertine90 @ Jan 19 2010, 12:17 PM)
argh when will Maxis will bring N1 to malaysia!!?!? can't wait leh~ and I heard from my friend that lowyat is selling N1 for Rm2499??? true?
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Is there like facebook for iphone/blackberry below us when we update status using N1 or android phones?
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QUOTE(bedhouin @ Jan 19 2010, 12:53 PM)
Thats good news if true. If anyone knows which shop in LY is selling it, please share. I'd grab it straight away...
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QUOTE(shenmui @ Jan 19 2010, 12:59 PM)
I've already done the very same search contacted the private sellers in KL.

All of them are private sellers who are either not in KL or do not have stock on hand and are waiting for shipment. My current phone is on it's last legs, and I'm looking for a shop/seller in KL that actually has units on hand to sell.
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Too bad guys..i was selling 5 units earlier..i am waiting for my 2nd batch..not sure i want to go through the trouble again, but i'll let u guys know if i am going to get it

I got myself a unit tongue.gif
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it keep wonder that the seller said US to Malaysia~ private carrier?? LOL
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it keep wonder that the seller said US to Malaysia~ private carrier?? LOL
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Heard that private company can help avoid or settle the tax from the kastam.
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I wonder who will buy HTC legend then~
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QUOTE(hengsin @ Jan 19 2010, 11:56 AM)
There is a hack version of google navigation that can be used here ( with some limitation ). Note that if you install using the direct download link below, it will install another  google map application, i.e the hacked version along your current google map.

Download link - http://ul.to/1bsozb/maps3.3.1-brut-no-root-3.apk
xda thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...=navigation+usa
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Hengsin, I tried it on Hero already. It doesn't work. Haven't tried it on Nexus One yet though. But I hope you confirm the fact before posting it. Or it will create more confusion here.

To those who are buying it from "private dealers", bear your own risks. For our recommendation, the only person we recommend you to buy from is irwan (refer first line in first post). If you get scammed or cheated by the private sellers, that will be your own risk to bear and do not come here complaining that you were cheated. You have been warned smile.gif


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iPhone facebook apps no background notification ? Get your facts right before you post something.
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Added on January 19, 2010, 5:01 pmHan18, read some posts earlier. There was a user running DiGi on Nexus One and got things to work. If it works for you too, can you please paste the APN settings here and I will update the first page.
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Hengsin, I tried it on Hero already. It doesn't work.
it works lar at least when my Magic is on Donut, and the reason it doesn't run on your previous Hero is because Google Navigation only works with Donut and above. Maybe people got confuse with Google Maps = Google Navigation.

However, u only get half the feature in Malaysia cuz there no street view sad.gif but of course still serve the purpose...
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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Jan 19 2010, 06:03 PM)
it works lar at least when my Magic is on Donut, and the reason it doesn't run on your previous Hero is because Google Navigation only works with Donut and above. Maybe people got confuse with Google Maps = Google Navigation.

However, u only get half the feature in Malaysia cuz there no street view sad.gif but of course still serve the purpose...
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That's exactly what I was saying. It does not work on Hero (Android 1.5). And that is why I specified I have not tried it on Nexus One. Because I know by right it should work but who knows if it doesnt.
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what is this? from a nexus one review turn to a debating topic.... why arent we reviewing more of the nexus on. come on man.. I wanna hear from u guys about the daily usage of this phone compared to the droid i just got from ebay for my pre u present


Added on January 19, 2010, 6:57 pmhye man. looks like mayb we might be lucky for a cheaper nexus one
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/NEW-Google-Nexus-On...=item1e5a11306a

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hmm.. looks like i can't try the speedtest with my nexus one, i don't have flash player

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Search for speedtest in Market.


Sending with N1 in ktm komuter.
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For N1 owners..just wanna ask if everybody is facing the same problem?

Our N1 will get warm up when charging..i mean quite warm! I never felt so warm in any of the smartphones I am using..so I am kinda worried.

Did some survey outside, it seems charging using USB will be much better..but is everyone facing the same issue..which is your N1 will get "hot" when charging
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QUOTE(LYW @ Jan 19 2010, 06:52 PM)


Added on January 19, 2010, 6:57 pmhye man. looks like mayb we might be lucky for a cheaper nexus one
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/NEW-Google-Nexus-On...=item1e5a11306a
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Is it a good mobile phone option for Malaysian users considering it does not have any physical customer service? ... not in US and certainly not in Malaysia!

Plus Nexus & Google have been lambasted with all sort of shortcomings in the US where consumers expects only the best service yet faced with problems.

Anyone read this CNN report? :-

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/14/wired.g...x.html?hpt=Sbin

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QUOTE(ivanlmh @ Jan 19 2010, 09:25 PM)
For N1 owners..just wanna ask if everybody is facing the same problem?

Our N1 will get warm up when charging..i mean quite warm! I never felt so warm in any of the smartphones I am using..so I am kinda worried.

Did some survey outside, it seems charging using USB will be much better..but is everyone facing the same issue..which is your N1 will get "hot" when charging
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Wall charger provides 1000mA compared to 250mA from PC's USB. The higher current sometimes makes more heat tome this is acceptable

Dead pixels are very hard to find if any. They are too small.
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After using N1 since yesterday evening, I noticed that my signal is E (for Egde) most of the time. Never had H signal (for HSDPA), unlike with my Hero previously. And the speed seems like a bit slower when using internet. Is it because I have reach the 5GB cap?
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irwan... wanna check... your phones direct from us or via singapore?? does the android market work? got paid apps?
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QUOTE(ARISTO @ Jan 19 2010, 11:13 PM)
Is it a good mobile phone option for Malaysian users considering it does not have any physical customer service? ... not in US and certainly not in Malaysia!

Plus Nexus & Google have been lambasted with all sort of shortcomings in the US where consumers expects only the best service yet faced with problems.

Anyone read this CNN report? :-

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/14/wired.g...x.html?hpt=Sbin

Just sharing...
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The responders that you have here are mostly from Malaysia and Singapore. So far we are pretty happy with what we have. Once again, this phone is brought in against Google's rules, but as legally possible, and we don't expect any premium services such as customer service or warranty repairs. We only advise the hardcore tech freaks who can bear the consequences when one rises, to buy one.

If you are buying because it looks good and you will not be utilizing it, need solid customer support, warranty backup, and all the premium services, my advice to you is "Don't buy it" smile.gif

As far as "support" is concerned, we are always here to give as much help as possible. We are not the gurus or whatsoever you may be thinking, but we do try our best and in most cases, we do solve even the slightest problems too.
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Because I know by right it should work but who knows if it doesnt.
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btw, i heard nexus 1 photo album is VERY nice ... Shahz, mind giving a small review covering that ? Is it anything like cooliris ?

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After using N1 since yesterday evening, I noticed that my signal is E (for Egde) most of the time. Never had H signal (for HSDPA), unlike with my Hero previously. And the speed seems like a bit slower when using internet. Is it because I have reach the 5GB cap?
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1) First of all, there is NO H icon to indicate HSDPA in N1.

2) APN ?
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I see. I use your APN setting for Celcom 3g. Hmm... maybe it is because i have reached the 5GB caps la kot.
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Just an update on the heating issue when charging. I just change my charging adapter to a 3rd party one which has lower amp...no longer heats up as much as it did..but i guess longer charging times..but i'm fine with that
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guys, i used the mms setting at the first page but still cant make it work.

anyway i'm using maxis..
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is the GPS takes up a lot of connection data?
because currently im holding the 500mb from Maxis
afraid that its unafforable =.=

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I not usre how much GMap data for Malaysian maps, but, if you want to save bandwidth, I suggest you to 'browse' entire Malaysian maps using WiFi smile.gif... Nayway, I don't know how much GMAP apps can store the maps chache and for how long it stores.


Added on January 20, 2010, 11:06 amAbout the Market, I only cn search for FREE apps... no PAID apps.

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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 20 2010, 10:29 AM)
guys,  i used the mms setting at the first page but still cant make it work.

anyway i'm using maxis..
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Rushy, u follow the guide at the first page or u modify a lil bit?
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Wait so for the GPS system, I have to use bandwidth if there's no Wifi around? It can work like garmin?

Sorry a bit noob on technology things.
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just tested google navigation system. very cool. i guess it's better than the garmin except that navigation using garmin is totally free..

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just tested google navigation system. very cool. i guess it's better than the garmin except that navigation using garmin is totally free..
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yups voice assisted. well i guess i'm not allowed to talk bout this here since the software itself is only work in US, but our nexus also legally shouldnt be here rite? tongue.gif

go to xda forum and u'll learn more biggrin.gif
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can u teach me how to use navigation for nexus
can u help me

i want to know how to download and how to use

hope you can provide me a link thsnk you


QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 20 2010, 02:35 PM)
yups voice assisted. well i guess i'm not allowed to talk bout this here since the software itself is only work in US, but our nexus also legally shouldnt be here rite? tongue.gif

go to xda forum and u'll learn more biggrin.gif
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Oooo... I installed the 'hacked' GMap ... and I got this smile.gif Mm.... BTW, my Garmin Nuvi 755T looks much prettier, especially with MFM maps smile.gif
For basic navigation... IMO this is enough. smile.gif


Yes, it has TTS (Text to Speech) voice synth.

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yups voice assisted. well i guess i'm not allowed to talk bout this here since the software itself is only work in US, but our nexus also legally shouldnt be here rite? tongue.gif

go to xda forum and u'll learn more biggrin.gif
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Maxis settings updated. Only one APN needed. Works for 3G and MMS.


Added on January 20, 2010, 7:51 pmBtw, for the GMaps Malaysia, don't worry, the 500MB is more than enough. My daily usage covers everything including Gmaps usage and i hardly use 250MB per month..
And that is with youTube viewed as well smile.gif

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irenic

can u teach me how to use navigation for nexus
can u help me

i want to know how to download and how to use

hope you can provide me a link thsnk you
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I'll pm u.. neway the gps is definitely working here.. can't compare to garmin but this gmap software is free so if it get better, then garmin should be wary of it...

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Already tested rooted n1 from our forumer last Monday, the phone is big and tall. Nice in hand, overall was so wonderful.
I could giv a mini review then in this weekend and also rooted magic vs rooted nexus one ,being busy now. Could be unperfect mini review, hope sum of u could correct it for me soon.

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Oooo... I installed the 'hacked' GMap ... and I got this smile.gif Mm.... BTW, my Garmin Nuvi 755T looks much prettier, especially with MFM maps smile.gif
For basic navigation... IMO this is enough. smile.gif
Yes, it has TTS (Text to Speech) voice synth.

TQ.
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i've been running through the google help forums regarding the n1.. and have been wondering about some issues that a few ppl are facing..

can u guys clarify if you have any issues with the touchscreen?
and also if there is any visible dust underneath the screen?
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Nope..there is no dust under the screen..
As for the screen sensitivity, I have no problems at all..However, I've realized that you can't use the N1 with just one palm..Apparently, if you're holding the N1 with the left palm as normally you would, and you try to press the top right most 1x1 widget, a little part of your palm will touch the black area of the N1 screen..And that does mean that you are touching at two points and it will end up not selecting the widget..Use it with two hands and you will never face problems (Of course, I'm trained enough already now to use it with just one hand) tongue.gif


Added on January 21, 2010, 12:33 amGuess what guys? Nexus One has made Google even a bigger rival to Apple compared to Microsoft. They are so shaken with the Nexus One, that they are going to replace the Google search engine with the Bing.. w00T! Go Android Go!

Source: http://blogs.zdnet.com/gadgetreviews/?p=11380&tag=nl.e539

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haha... you the pro Shahz.. will continue to troll around the google forums more.. really hope that the next update (Froyo) solves some of the issues that are popping up at the forums...
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Have anyone got their set from Irwan yet? getting mine from him on Tuesday next week.
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Have anyone got their set from Irwan yet? getting mine from him on Tuesday next week.
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aruja_69 there have been many successful buyers who got the N1 from irwan. I personally recommend you to buy it through him - if you want to avoid all the hassle I went through smile.gif
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hey guys.. can u do me a favour? i recently saw an app called google translate.. its suppose to be able to translate the spoken word quite accurately to another language.. any chance u could review that.. it looks extremely interesting and helpful

not too sure if it needs an internet connection to run though...
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this is some news cool.gif

i wonder what next.

dang, i can only get my phone next weekend. the waiting is horrible.
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Ok and hopefully I get my set next week Tuesday. is anything should do before using the phone.
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I notice that there is no 3g video call available in the phone.

Is there a way to get the feature of 3g video call on N1?
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Go get a nokia if u wan 3g video
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Hmmm do you guys realize when you type a msg you can't add people contact into the contact's number box
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You are right. Actually, you can send multiple recipients but, in my case, not everyone in my contact list. There are several apps to send sms to masses, in Market, and the popular one is the 'Text Easy'. Yer la.. my Nokia hps are better in sms handling smile.gif

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Added on January 21, 2010, 12:35 pmBTW, this smartphone is targeted for social networking via Internet. Why need to send multiple SMSes, if you can send once to twitter or facebook smile.gif

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Its confusing when you display your phone contact together with google and facebook contact. It only shows the username of the facebook friend instead the name you set in your phone contact even when you join it with facebook profile.
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well, i do know that not only nokia can do that ...
other phones can do that too...

just would like to know if N1 has any s/w that can enables that feature
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afaik, android doesnt support video calls yet
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ic...
thats the only downside on android i presume(atm)

other then that.. im loving my N1 more n more..
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Have you ever seen someone make a 3g call?
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i was a heavy 3g video call user.. till i decided to walk out of the Nokia shell.. missed it last time, but now not anymore.
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QUOTE(redzanime @ Jan 21 2010, 12:58 PM)
Its confusing when you display your phone contact together with google and facebook contact. It only shows the username of the facebook friend instead the name you set in your phone contact even when you join it with facebook profile.
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You can set them separately if you don't want to join them smile.gif Thats the problem with our community people. They want to be so tech savvy that they want to appear on all social networks and not even leave out one. But when they do, they always want to be anonymous and expect you to figure out what their anonymous name is. Sometimes, I don't really bother adding them to my profile at all coz they don't deserve to be there. If you want to "socialize" by joining a "social network", then be proud of your own name first. You have the best name anyone else could ever have. You deserve the name. And if you have problems with it, blame your parents but spare the other social networking users smile.gif

P/s: Sorry to go really off board. But honestly, I have simple names like "Khairul" (not real name) which I have always called him that suddenly have to remember him as "Pinky Slushy Poo Poo Dog" (not real nick) in my contacts now! It irritates me so much, I separated him from his number. He deserves not to appear on my contacts list (only with phone options enabled) smile.gif

QUOTE(Rushy @ Jan 21 2010, 01:22 PM)
Thanks for the input bro...
well, i do know that not only nokia can do that ...
other phones can do that too...

just would like to know if N1 has any s/w that can enables that feature
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To be honest guys, I have owned Nokia N95 before this which was an awesome phone (and still is!), and had 3.5G video call feature which I used only two times in my life:
1. When my dad bought a 3G video phone (testing his front camera and 3G video call)
2. When my siter bought a 3G video phone (same purpose as above)

I really think 3G video call is a fail feature which never made its breakthrough as it was supposed to (regardless of the rates being the same as voice call). It lacks security, it makes you look really stupid talking to the phone in front of you, giggling and laughing (or even get mad) and above all, you don't have your privacy. Someone can just call in a video call while you're naked or doing the chicken dance and you pick it up not knowing it was actually a video call.. lol.. Don't laugh, it has happened to someone I know.. tongue.gif
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shahz, do you think N1 will get the multitouch soon? (either hack or official). I'm kinda torn here, i heard the EU version MIGHT have multitouch but it's gonna be 1 month before they release it here in eu. And i can't wait that long sweat.gif
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any1 here order the phone from singapore?
how much total cost?
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 21 2010, 03:54 PM)
any1 here order the phone from singapore?
how much total cost?
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shahz, do you think N1 will get the multitouch soon? (either hack or official). I'm kinda torn here, i heard the EU version MIGHT have multitouch but it's gonna be 1 month before they release it here in eu. And i can't wait that long  sweat.gif
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Multitouch u can try it with dolphin browser.............

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So far whats those BUGGY u guys faced?

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can I ask u guy the UK set can support Chinese input and output?
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You can set them separately if you don't want to join them smile.gif Thats the problem with our community people. They want to be so tech savvy that they want to appear on all social networks and not even leave out one. But when they do, they always want to be anonymous and expect you to figure out what their anonymous name is. Sometimes, I don't really bother adding them to my profile at all coz they don't deserve to be there. If you want to "socialize" by joining a "social network", then be proud of your own name first. You have the best name anyone else could ever have. You deserve the name. And if you have problems with it, blame your parents but spare the other social networking users smile.gif

P/s: Sorry to go really off board. But honestly, I have simple names like "Khairul" (not real name) which I have always called him that suddenly have to remember him as "Pinky Slushy Poo Poo Dog" (not real nick) in my contacts now! It irritates me so much, I separated him from his number. He deserves not to appear on my contacts list (only with phone options enabled) smile.gif
To be honest guys, I have owned Nokia N95 before this which was an awesome phone (and still is!), and had 3.5G video call feature which I used only two times in my life:
1. When my dad bought a 3G video phone (testing his front camera and 3G video call)
2. When my siter bought a 3G video phone (same purpose as above)

I really think 3G video call is a fail feature which never made its breakthrough as it was supposed to (regardless of the rates being the same as voice call). It lacks security, it makes you look really stupid talking to the phone in front of you, giggling and laughing (or even get mad) and above all, you don't have your privacy. Someone can just call in a video call while you're naked or doing the chicken dance and you pick it up not knowing it was actually a video call.. lol.. Don't laugh, it has happened to someone I know.. tongue.gif
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wow.....but for me 3g call is very very usefull.
i use alot of 3g video call when i am away from my familly..

its great that u could see then physically rather then just hearing their voice.
tho the quality is not really good, but at least u can see them.

i guess i have to bring another 3g video call phone with me next time i am away again...
and just patiently waiting for android to come out with the video call feature(if they will)
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QUOTE(shenmui @ Jan 21 2010, 04:01 PM)
I think N1 u must directly order from Google


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Multitouch u can try it with dolphin browser.............
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ya i know
i just wan to know how much the total cost will be when the N1 delivered to sg
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 21 2010, 05:25 PM)
ya i know
i just wan to know how much the total cost will be when the N1 delivered to sg
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$529 for the phone, Shipping & Handling (DHL International) $28.32, +7%GST.
Price above is US dollar, you can convert to other currency yourself.
Should be around $850 sing dollar. smile.gif

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About the Chinese input, there are several Chinese IME in Market. The Android 2.1 SDK VM also using the Pinyin IME. So Chinese input will be not a problem with Android. I personally using OpenWnn/Plus for Japanese input.

Multitouch? N1 IS multitouch capable in hardware and OS level, but you must use multitouch enabled apps, such as the Dolphin browser.

TQ. smile.gif

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QUOTE(dennis5585 @ Jan 21 2010, 05:46 PM)
$529 for the phone, Shipping & Handling (DHL International) $28.32, +7%GST.
Price above is US dollar, you can convert to other currency yourself.
Should be around $850 sing dollar.  smile.gif
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7%GST charge on US529 / US529+US28.32 or Singapore side?
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 21 2010, 03:29 PM)
You can set them separately if you don't want to join them smile.gif Thats the problem with our community people. They want to be so tech savvy that they want to appear on all social networks and not even leave out one. But when they do, they always want to be anonymous and expect you to figure out what their anonymous name is. Sometimes, I don't really bother adding them to my profile at all coz they don't deserve to be there. If you want to "socialize" by joining a "social network", then be proud of your own name first. You have the best name anyone else could ever have. You deserve the name. And if you have problems with it, blame your parents but spare the other social networking users smile.gif

P/s: Sorry to go really off board. But honestly, I have simple names like "Khairul" (not real name) which I have always called him that suddenly have to remember him as "Pinky Slushy Poo Poo Dog" (not real nick) in my contacts now! It irritates me so much, I separated him from his number. He deserves not to appear on my contacts list (only with phone options enabled) smile.gif
Somehow I feels like I like the contact management with facebook better in Hero with HTC Sense than in N1. It will still display the name you put for your phone contact and just link it with Facebook account.
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7%GST charge on US529 / US529+US28.32 or Singapore side?
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i dun think is alot diff with the 28.32 o not, but i think is 7% on $529.
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the total cost for the phone , charger and delivery to singapore is 577.31 USD

then when it reaches singapore you will need to pay around 65 SGD (7% GST and 10 SGD for handling fee)
bear in mind that the 65SGD is paid in cash to the delivery guy

it took 6 days to reach my friend's hand
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the N1 sound good. going to get few units from US soon.
will back to KL next month and plan to sell off 1 or 2 units then.. smile.gif
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Damn..post in the wrong thread..Guys, can you get some heads up on this? I'm too tired with the travelling today. Just got back from KL. I really love that widget..one thing I really miss from Hero..

"Crack! Look at this vid guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEsZXHS7J0I&feature=fvsr

Anyone of you have been lucky to get that Rosie Weather widget?!"
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http://www.google.com/mobile/goggles/#landmark

anyone can do this on their nexus one? can we use this here?
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 22 2010, 02:21 AM)
Damn..post in the wrong thread..Guys, can you get some heads up on this? I'm too tired with the travelling today. Just got back from KL. I really love that widget..one thing I really miss from Hero..

"Crack! Look at this vid guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEsZXHS7J0I&feature=fvsr

Anyone of you have been lucky to get that Rosie Weather widget?!"
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Hi,

look like multitouch is available to do it , anyone try for it ?

http://www.redmondpie.com/multitouch-in-ne...rowser-9140377/

any of your root Nexus one ?

http://www.gadgetsdna.com/how-to-root-goog...ndroid-2-1/773/


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http://www.google.com/mobile/goggles/#landmark

anyone can do this on their nexus one? can we use this here?
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Hi,

you need to download and install googles from android market, then you can try yourself.

I have try but not accuracy, i take same picture twice (the picture is nexus's Box) , the first time it can search the google for me. second time it is fail. My experience it is base on camera's quality

try magazine-> fail, try sony vaio's logo on notebook screen -> fail also.





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Typing this on my brand new N1. Wow this is one sweet phone. I'm so new to Android though. It's gonna take a while.
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wow did you do that using your Nexus One?
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I've been using Goggles..Its really fun..I've got 99% accurate results so far ranging from brands to products..5MPx definitely does a lot of difference for goggles..

I'm gonna start searching for the rosie like weather widget for Nexus One..
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woooo nice! gonna download it once i get my phone biggrin.gif

whats rosie like weather widget? i clicked your youtube video but i dont understand.
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Nexus One's unitouch browser falls victim to Cyanogen
By Chris Ziegler posted Jan 21st 2010 7:52PM

Hey, Andy, thanks for "considering" adding multitouch to the Nexus One -- meanwhile, though, there are folks in the trenches actually making it happen, so we might not need your help anymore. The usual suspects over at xda-developers (the legendary Cyanogen, specifically) have mixed, baked, and cooled a delicious new Browser APK for Google's so-called superphone that undoes the company's poorly-made decision to leave out the hot-button feature on everyone's mind. The dude says that you might lose your settings and bookmarks in the process, but we'd say that's a small price to pay -- especially considering that you'd normally have to flash the entire ROM anyhow. Seriously though, Andy, just check it out for a few days and see what you think, alright?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/21/nexus-o...im-to-cyanogen/
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And while this was being posted, my Nexus One was already multi-touched tongue.gif
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kewl!! shahz, u follow the step by the redmonpie or what?
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Eventough I am VERY-VERY tempted to rooting my N1, but, I'll keep my N1 as is it, ie, 'un-rooted'. Someday or later, there will be a way to 'root' or privilege escalation on Adnroid 2.x or ways to 'oem lock' bootloader are found. . So, I not need to 'unlock' the bootloader which will void the warranty

After about a week exploring my N1,

1) In Malaysia, the 3G reception is about almost the same as any other phones.
2) Touch screen, is nice.. but you need to clean the screen and your fingers for optimum performance
3) No needs for multitouch, because, everything are acceptable without it.
4) 3G UL speed is around 250 kbps - 2Mbps, based on locations and time, Not bad. : Celcom3G, voice+unlimited data plan.
5) GPS is very good and sensitive. I can get 2m accuracy.
6) Yeah, it will get hot whem I use GPS/GMap navigation. Reasons is, the GPS, 3G and processing needs lots of power. BTW, I also tested my friend iPhone 3Gs running Papago navigation, and it;s also as warm as N1. Remember the 3Gs only use local data, not via 3G.
7) Once again, this phone REALLY LOOKs NICE and solidly build.
8) The speaker is loud enough to woke me up in morning. smile.gif
9) I don't like fancy live wallpaper. mine is black/dark coloured background, as in the screenshot which I posted earlier.
10) AMOLED screen...... wow... magnificent!!! I converted movies to mp4 and played it on N1...and really nice and smooth

Changes? no changes yet..

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Added on January 22, 2010, 5:08 pmSingapore unless u buy it from US is that true?

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Yes... you only can buy the N1 ONLY from google... at least for time being. smile.gif
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Hi Guys,

so far any minor dissatisfaction or problem with this N1 phone?

Can the topic starter update this stuff on ur 1st page? since this is a testing a review topic.

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Sure..To all the testers, PM me your dissatisfactions and I will put it up in the first post..STRICTLY only N1 owners please!
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Guys....i just purchase 2 android phone and my friend goin gto bring it to malaysia for me.....but the problem is .....if he bring it through custom in with seal box....will they tax? because he is only bringing 2 unit....
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I dont think so..Just hope he will be lucky..If you want to be safe, ask him to take only the phone out, put it in the pouch provided and carry in his pocket..That would be better..
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 22 2010, 11:32 PM)
I dont think so..Just hope he will be lucky..If you want to be safe, ask him to take only the phone out, put it in the pouch provided and carry in his pocket..That would be better..
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that definitely cannot be caught.....just that i dont get to unbox it for the 1st time lol...i bought it only RM 1.8k after conversion rate....
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Well, trust me, I paid a lot more than you can immagine and I still didnt get to unbox my virgin Nexus One..Customs checked the contents (although they didn't touched the phone at all)..

Think about your friend stopped for checkup and end up having to declare it..Will it be worth it? wink.gif Just play safe bro~
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going to get my N1 2molo night..
cannot sleep now..

my N1 arrived on Tues morning..and thanks to TEO help me bring in...

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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30755135

To n1 user did the phone use same glass with motodroid ? Bigger screen bigger potential to broke.
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QUOTE(phua1985 @ Jan 23 2010, 12:45 AM)
that definitely cannot be caught.....just that i dont get to unbox it for the 1st time lol...i bought it only RM 1.8k after conversion rate....
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 23 2010, 01:18 AM)
Well, trust me, I paid a lot more than you can immagine and I still didnt get to unbox my virgin Nexus One..Customs checked the contents (although they didn't touched the phone at all)..

Think about your friend stopped for checkup and end up having to declare it..Will it be worth it? wink.gif Just play safe bro~
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Fellows..the box memang not sealed. I mean its not sealed..not like iphone..just ask your friend open the box..take the phones put in this pocket...and pass the custom like nothing
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Remember, to put battery in the N1 first. smile.gif, because, the N1 is shipped without battery installed.

If you want to hand carry,
1) pickup the phone
2) install the battery,
2a) Put it in the pouch
3) Put the charger and USB cable into bag.

That's it.
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Anyone having problems with bluetooth file transfer?

I can send photos from PC to N1 but not the other way. N1 says PC is "Paired but not connected." In PC's bluetooth devices folder N1 icon is always dimmed.

I'm using Windows 7. So far I've only fount this: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/andr...59482904a&hl=en
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I am only having bluetooth transfer to my lappy.
But have no connection issue with my bluetooth handsfree, and my old d810.
Not sure why.

After using N1 for a week.
I notice that it has 3 setback for wat i think.
This is my first time using an android phone btw.

1. No 3G video call where by other platform has it. I dont mind that it has no front camera, but at least enable us to receive video call through 3G network.
2. PDF reader.... There is not 1 free good pdf reader for android so far, some are real slow!!
Or there is, some one pls suggest it.
3. Video player, there is not 1 video player that can play most major format. eg. mp4, rmvb, avi, etc together
again, if there is...pls suggest it..hehe

Well still exploring my lovely N1 tho~~

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What do you think about its virtual keyboard and messaging? Is it accurate? some info about the supposed warm when used is nice too.


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im starting to get used to the virtual keyboard.
The only weird thing about the keyboard design where by ,(comma) is not at the main page is weird!

Any1 have other cool keyboard use ?
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QUOTE(ivanlmh @ Jan 23 2010, 11:58 AM)
Fellows..the box memang not sealed. I mean its not sealed..not like iphone..just ask your friend open the box..take the phones put in this pocket...and pass the custom like nothing
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Yeah..There is no sticky seal that separates the box with the contents..Just take out the phone and battery, slot them in and put in the pocket..Easiest way to bring it in..To those who want to confirm whether anyone has touched the phone or not, don't worry..The fingerprints will stick on the phone rather easily smile.gif


QUOTE(innards @ Jan 23 2010, 05:42 PM)
Anyone having problems with bluetooth file transfer?

I can send photos from PC to N1 but not the other way. N1 says PC is "Paired but not connected." In PC's bluetooth devices folder N1 icon is always dimmed.

I'm using Windows 7. So far I've only fount this: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/andr...59482904a&hl=en
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Didn't have any problems for me..Make sure you made your device discoverable..I've used the bluetooth several times already since I got it..Its slower than WiFi, but easier to activate and use..So far no problems at all smile.gif


QUOTE(zerigemok @ Jan 23 2010, 06:44 PM)
What do you think about its virtual keyboard and messaging? Is it accurate? some info about the supposed warm when used is nice too.
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Accuracy of the keyboard is really good! There is no calibration, but somehow either my Nexus One is learning my thumbs, or either I am the one who's getting used to it..Its' getting a lot more accurate as I use it day by day smile.gif
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Fingerprint easy to stick? I've never used a virtual keyboard before that's why kinda afraid it's gonna be hard.

Just bought N1 off ebay and now it's gonna be a waiting game biggrin.gif Hopefully wont be long before i can get my hands on the phone
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 23 2010, 07:08 PM)
Yeah..There is no sticky seal that separates the box with the contents..Just take out the phone and battery, slot them in and put in the pocket..Easiest way to bring it in..To those who want to confirm whether anyone has touched the phone or not, don't worry..The fingerprints will stick on the phone rather easily smile.gif
Didn't have any problems for me..Make sure you made your device discoverable..I've used the bluetooth several times already since I got it..Its slower than WiFi, but easier to activate and use..So far no problems at all smile.gif
Accuracy of the keyboard is really good! There is no calibration, but somehow either my Nexus One is learning my thumbs, or either I am the one who's getting used to it..Its' getting a lot more accurate as I use it day by day smile.gif
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QUOTE(zerigemok @ Jan 23 2010, 07:18 PM)
Fingerprint easy to stick? I've never used a virtual keyboard before that's why kinda afraid it's gonna be hard.

Just bought N1 off ebay and now it's gonna be a waiting game  biggrin.gif Hopefully wont be long before i can get my hands on the phone
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fingerprint sticky tu standard la bang.........kohkohkohkoh

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n95 fingerprint tak visible whistling.gif
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ye ke bro aku pun 1st time guna hp touch skrin ni........kohkohkoh
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oh lol. Kalau screen tu rasenye sume phone ade fingerprint. Tapi bro shahz ckp tu macam kat satu phone fingerprint ade.
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QUOTE(Rushy @ Jan 23 2010, 06:29 PM)
I am only having bluetooth transfer to my lappy.
But have no connection issue with my bluetooth handsfree, and my old d810.
Not sure why.

After using N1 for a week.
I notice that it has 3 setback for wat i think.
This is my first time using an android phone btw.

1. No 3G video call where by other platform has it. I dont mind that it has no front camera, but at least enable us to receive video call through 3G network.
2. PDF reader.... There is not 1 free good pdf reader for android so far, some are real slow!!
Or there is, some one pls suggest it.
3. Video player, there is not 1 video player that can play most major format. eg. mp4, rmvb, avi, etc together
again, if there is...pls suggest it..hehe

Well still exploring my lovely N1 tho~~
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Well, the default player is pretty good. U just need a good converter to convert to mp3 format I think..it also support HD version of H.264
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QUOTE(shenmui @ Jan 23 2010, 07:51 PM)
Yeah!! me also no problem went make call trough my SE bluetooth stereo


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n95 fingerprint tak visible whistling.gif
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ye ke bro aku pun 1st time guna hp touch skrin ni........kohkohkoh
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oh lol. Kalau screen tu rasenye sume phone ade fingerprint. Tapi bro shahz ckp tu macam kat satu phone fingerprint ade.
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Lahh..memang menyimpang betul..LOL..Fingerprint N95 memang la tak nampak sebab dier bukan touch screen phone..LOL..
What I meant was, the phone's screen is very glossy and 'crystallish' that when you touch it, your fingerprint will be dabbed on it..But it can be wiped lar..aduh~
Highly exaggeratted members la you all nih..Smallest fact pun nak kene concern gile2..lol..


Added on January 23, 2010, 10:08 pm
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Well, the default player is pretty good. U just need a good converter to convert to mp3 format I think..it also support HD version of H.264
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I use "MixZing" player..For some personal reasons tongue.gif

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Yeah..There is no sticky seal that separates the box with the contents..Just take out the phone and battery, slot them in and put in the pocket..Easiest way to bring it in..To those who want to confirm whether anyone has touched the phone or not, don't worry..The fingerprints will stick on the phone rather easily smile.gif
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Bolded quote confused me lol, cakap tak cukup terang laugh.gif . I thought you meant the whole phone is fingerprint prone, like ps3 phat one. If just screen then all phone like that for sure and i wont mind. Important what, coz ppl will look at our phones first, then only its inner look. If the whole phone is full with fingerprints sure gonna be weird

Anyway first time buying android phone too. Before this one all nokia phones, so i'm sure there's gonna be some readjustment period
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Yes, default player, in Gallery is simple and good. I converted some HD movies using FFMPEG (command line) into H264 MP4 format, and it plays all without any problem.

BT transter:
I can transfer files from/to my laptop running GNU/Linux. If my Linux laptop can did it in command line, then I am sure the ultra modern Windows 7 can also. smile.gif. BT file transfer is not as fast the WiFi, it is around 200kByte/s. I also can transfer from/to to other handphones, and I use Bluetooth File Transfer apps (from Market). Very convenient

Finger print? Nope, N1's screen is not a finger print 'magnet'. It stays clear all the time. If the screen is dirty or the sensitivity is not good, just wipe with clean cloth... Easy. This is my first touch screen phone, and my 4th touch screen devices. So I am quite satisfied with the screen.

TQ
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just now at FB
saw this link
http://www.nexusforum.net/nexus-one-applic...t.html#post1447
i wonder what does he means by tether your nexus one?
and there're alot more apps inside this forum as well
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Tethering means, to make your N1 as your GSM/HSDPA modem, via bluetooth, wifi or USB link. So you can share the N1's 3G connection with your computer.


Added on January 23, 2010, 11:57 pmThanlks for the Azilink tips. smile.gif I tried it... good, at least I can browse and post this message using my laptop via the N1's 3G connection. smile.gif



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Yeah..and for malaysia, I dont see any point of tethering so far (considering we do not have "unlimited" packages) atm..I cooked my own Custom ROM for N1 and I didn't bother to include the wired / wireless tethering at all tongue.gif I'm much happier browsing on my N1 rather than using it as a modem (which I could've just bought the 3G modem from Maxis)..LOL tongue.gif
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Agreed. smile.gif ... Anyway, USB tethering is good alternatives, if your are in very ;desperate' situation. smile.gif Also agreed that, browsing with N1 is very nice experience, but the battery.... smile.gif

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Finger print marks and oily screens, users can rejoice later when aftermarket manufacturers release those anti finger print screen protectors.
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n i believe the pouch comes with N1 can help to wipe the fingerprint too once u put ur N1 into the pouch
just like G1(htc dream) which after u use it with fingerprint thr n u put back inside the pouch,the fingerprint will gone
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Yeah..it does serve as the purpose..but only for the screen though..

I prefer using Apple cleaning cloth which came with my macbook..Its one of the best cloth for screens..I'm looking for another one..

Can anyone find me one please?
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How about the eye-glasses or camera lenses cleaning cloth?
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those are just okay..

The apple's cloth has a very rubbery-like texture..much like a resin or something..When I first had it, I doubted its credibility..But so far, its the only cloth that I dare to use to rub with full force on any screen device and be assured that it will not scratch the screen!

I went to "machines" shop to find that cloth..Even they don't have it @_@
They say it only comes with the retailed products..Not for sale..

Even the glasses cloth scratched my RayBan glasses..
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just received the phone yesterday
once again thanks to my fren TEO ...
still getting used to it..
very unfamiliar with the touch screen coz my previous touch
screen u have to press.. this one no need..
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Hello N1 Owners ^^
May i know...
is it the N1 screen protector available on market?
or N1 no need screen protector?


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Hello N1 Owners ^^
May i know...
is it the N1 screen protector available on market?
or N1 no need screen protector?
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I dont think you need any screen protector after watching this

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2. PDF reader.... There is not 1 free good pdf reader for android so far, some are real slow!!
Or there is, some one pls suggest it.
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See this: http://discuss.gdgt.com/htc/google/nexus-o...and-PDF-viewer/
It seems to work, at least with PDFs. I haven't tried opening docs or spreadsheets yet.

QUOTE(Rushy @ Jan 23 2010, 06:29 PM)
I am only having bluetooth transfer to my lappy.
But have no connection issue with my bluetooth handsfree, and my old d810.
Not sure why.
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You mean you have issues with BT transfer with your laptop? When I said PC I meant my laptop (HP Pavilion dv2 running Windows 7). Still can't get it to receive photos from my N1. Or maybe it's the N1 having trouble sending.

QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 23 2010, 07:08 PM)
Didn't have any problems for me..Make sure you made your device discoverable..I've used the bluetooth several times already since I got it..Its slower than WiFi, but easier to activate and use..So far no problems at all smile.gif
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BT transter:
I can transfer files  from/to my laptop running GNU/Linux. If my Linux laptop can did it in command line, then I am sure the ultra modern Windows 7 can also. smile.gif. BT file transfer is not as fast the WiFi, it is around 200kByte/s. I also can transfer from/to to other handphones, and I use Bluetooth File Transfer apps (from Market). Very convenient
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So you both can do BT transfer with your computers without issues then. Ok I'll try with another computer, and that app bahathir mentioned.


Added on January 24, 2010, 10:23 amBtw, how do you guys transfer files between N1 and your computer over WiFi?

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innards,

Its really simple..You can either use SSH or FTP file transfer..SSH is fully command line and you will find it rather difficult if you're not used to UNIX platforms smile.gif

For FTP, here is what you should do..Considering you know the basics of FTP (File Transfer Protocol), download the "FTP server" application and "My IP" application from the market for your phone. Also, make sure you have a FTP application on your computer (FileZilla happens to be my favorite).

Once you have that, launch the My IP application and note down your internal IP. Close MyIP and launch FTP server now. Setup a username and password along with a listening port (I suggest 2222 as the port). Also, allow the wireless network that you will be using to connect to your phone to have access to your phone. With this setting, launch the FTP client on your computer and connect to your phone accordingly. If everything goes well, you will see your phone's folders on your FTP client wink.gif

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innard : Ever tried to set the N1 as Mass Storage, and Windows 7 and access the N1's SDcard as a drive? smile.gif


Added on January 24, 2010, 4:06 pmReference : Nexus One User's Guide... page :70
http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/...=168464#1071902


Added on January 24, 2010, 5:24 pmBTW, if you use BT push method (PC -> N1), you only can send/push the N1's recognizable files' extensions . such as, txt, png, jpeg .... Other than these, N1 will denied the connection.

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innards,

Its really simple..You can either use SSH or FTP file transfer..SSH is fully command line and you will find it rather difficult if you're not used to UNIX platforms smile.gif

For FTP, here is what you should do..Considering you know the basics of FTP (File Transfer Protocol), download the "FTP server" application and "My IP" application from the market for your phone. Also, make sure you have a FTP application on your computer (FileZilla happens to be my favorite).

Once you have that, launch the My IP application and note down your internal IP. Close MyIP and launch FTP server now. Setup a username and password along with a listening port (I suggest 2222 as the port). Also, allow the wireless network that you will be using to connect to your phone to have access to your phone. With this setting, launch the FTP client on your computer and connect to your phone accordingly. If everything goes well, you will see your phone's folders on your FTP client wink.gif

Cheers~
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This sounds pretty exciting, I can't wait to try it out. I use a bit of FTP so I guess the setup should be a snap with your very clear instructions.


QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 24 2010, 03:54 PM)
innard : Ever tried to set the N1 as Mass Storage, and Windows 7 and access the N1's SDcard as a drive? smile.gif


Added on January 24, 2010, 4:06 pmReference : Nexus One User's Guide... page :70
http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/...=168464#1071902


Added on January 24, 2010, 5:24 pmBTW, if you use BT push method (PC -> N1), you only can send/push the N1's recognizable files' extensions . such as, txt, png, jpeg ....  Other than these, N1 will denied the connection.
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bahathir, I do use the mount feature sometimes and it's quite handy. It's actually one of the reasons why I went with Android. Sometimes wireless is more convenient though and I'm kind of used to bluetooth for pc/phone file transfers. Anyways if I can get FTP to work it wouldn't matter as much.

So you guys are well-versed in UNIX huh, no wonder about your Android enthusiasm wink.gif
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innards, trust me, its almost fail safe happy.gif
I actually use FTP for my transfer. Make sure the port you will be using is not blocked by your firewall.

Today, I felt like playing with my CPUfreq today and to my shock, Scaling_min_freq on N1 is set to 245000 only! Thats lower than my Hero! The governor is 'ondemand' though and it the available freqs are pretty varied. Still, I prefer my N1 not to run anywhere below 500MHz, so I'm goin to be tweaking this. I want to see if it hogs my battery (supposedly not though).


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Found a link about 'multi-touching' your Nexus

http://gizmodo.com/5455414/how-to-get-mult...l+%28Gizmodo%29
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http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/andr...3c784258e&hl=en

Now i'm worried sad.gif Seems like quite a lot people got problem with their touchscreen offset. Any owners here with such a problem?
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shahz: Since you already rooted your N1, please report if you set 'conservative' and 'powersave' to cpufreq.

I may join the 'rooted' N1, in few months, and after Google/HTC publish the fix for 3G, just in case.... By the mean time, I hope 'xda' group already found the way to relock the bootloader. smile.gif.


TQ.


Added on January 25, 2010, 2:34 amI have no poblem yet with the touchscreen, at this moment.
For touch screen test, I used Android 2.1 SDK app (Developent.apk). Other than this, search for 'Multi touch' drawing tools in Market..In my tests, the touch registrations were precise, unless you accidentally touched the border of the screen.

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QUOTE(innards @ Jan 24 2010, 08:13 PM)
This sounds pretty exciting, I can't wait to try it out. I use a bit of FTP so I guess the setup should be a snap with your very clear instructions.
bahathir, I do use the mount feature sometimes and it's quite handy. It's actually one of the reasons why I went with Android. Sometimes wireless is more convenient though and I'm kind of used to bluetooth for pc/phone file transfers. Anyways if I can get FTP to work it wouldn't matter as much.

So you guys are well-versed in UNIX huh, no wonder about your Android enthusiasm wink.gif
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hi innards,

you may try to use this two apk, you can just install and use it, both can be found on Android Market

1) Bluetooth File Transfer - it is easy, just turn on and you can sent / receive from your PC
2) MoutUSB - after install, connect the cable to your PC, click the installed package, your N1 will became USB drive on your pc

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for the FTP server, you can use Swiftp, find it in market. it will give you the ip and you can set username and password for your ftp server. i think its the best ftp server for android right now.
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apika, you can't just judge an FTP server by its ability to display the IP and port only smile.gif I have tried SwiFTP before too but I think FTPserver is a lot more stable. What is important, is how long the FTP server can handle the connection without timeouts successfully. SwiFTP gives lots of timeouts when the phone goes to sleep mode while transferring data.

Nevertheless, it can be used too...
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Today Nanyang Newpaper publish and mention about 3 major problems HTC google Nexus one is facing....

1) touch screen problem

2) 3G and edge switch around even when 3G signal is very strong

3) Battery cant even last for 12 hrs on standby mode

I wonder when are they going to solve the problem no 1 and 2 only....zzzz


Added on January 25, 2010, 9:34 pmBy the way guys anyone can explain to me what is rooted N1?

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QUOTE(phua1985 @ Jan 25 2010, 09:33 PM)
Today Nanyang Newpaper publish and mention about 3 major problems HTC google Nexus one is facing....
Did the reporters found the problems by themself, or just copy paste from google's forums ? smile.gif

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Did the reporters found the problems by themself, or just copy paste from google's forums ? smile.gif
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Rooting in Android is getting superuser privileges (root), to give user more freedom to use the device. It is similar to Apple's product's jail break.
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That newspaper didnt even bother to read our forum..huahuahua..
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QUOTE(phua1985 @ Jan 25 2010, 09:33 PM)
Today Nanyang Newpaper publish and mention about 3 major problems HTC google Nexus one is facing....

1) touch screen problem

2) 3G and edge switch around even when 3G signal is very strong

3) Battery cant even last for 12 hrs on standby mode

I wonder when are they going to solve the problem no 1 and 2 only....zzzz


Added on January 25, 2010, 9:34 pmBy the way guys anyone can explain to me what is rooted N1?
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LOL..can't last for even 12 hrs on standby mode? That's so bullshit. I can easily use wifi and chat and surf and my battery can easily go over 12 hours
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My N1's standby is more than 12 hours. 6 hours standby just use 10%, with WiFi turned ON.

Now. IMHO, the cause of the high power consumption are due to

1) Low or very low telco's signal strength. Any phones also suffers this problem.
2) Background apps. Several apps uses quite some power even in standby mode
3) They leave the screen ON during the standby... Carefull OLED also have 'burnt' problem, similar to old CRT TV/monitor. So make sure the standby/or screen blank is ON.

Remeber, the N1 is Internet connected smartphone. Even my friends also recharge their iPhones 3Gs EVERYDAY>

Others ? smile.gif

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Yeah..it does serve as the purpose..but only for the screen though..

I prefer using Apple cleaning cloth which came with my macbook..Its one of the best cloth for screens..I'm looking for another one..

Can anyone find me one please?
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eh. how come i dont have the cleaning cloth that came with the macbook
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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Jan 25 2010, 10:20 PM)
eh. how come i dont have the cleaning cloth that came with the macbook
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Lol..let me give you guys some heads up on facebook for Nexus One..I'm a moderate user and have lots of contacts..
The Nexus One has one of the most dynamic ways of handling contacts. This is what you can do:
1. Add your google mail account to your Nexus One
2. Add your facebook account to your Nexus One
What the Nexus One will do roughly less than a few seconds is, it will download ALL your contacts to your Nexus One..What it does, it downloads the facebook profile pic of your friend as the contact's picture.

Now, what you guys must be thinking "I don't want ALL my contacts. My Google is messed with weird emails etc". You don't have to worry about that. There is one checkbox in the contacts which after ticking it, only contacts with phone numbers will be displayed (as in my case, my gmail contacts were now "hidden" and my facebook accounts were listed for those who had included their phone number on their facbeook profiles).

Now, what about the others who didnt insert their phone numbers in thir facebook profile, but you have their profile? No problem..Just create a new contact with the same person's facebook name, and add the phone number to it..Once you hit save, you will realize it did NOT make a new contact. Why? Because it combined with the facebook profile automatically. The person who was not visibile just now, is now visible because you added a phone number smile.gif

And what about those who don't have facebook? No problem. Just make a new contact and you will have it there smile.gif

Whats even better? Once you have settled this once, it automatically synchronises to the facebook and google server. So when your phone is reformatted or whatever happen, just add you fb account and gmail again, and there you go..its all there wink.gif

THAT my friend is the BEST way to utilize facebook for me until now..Even friends of old ages added me on facebook and my nexus one helped getting their number too smile.gif
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it was a nightmare.
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Did the reporters found the problems by themself, or just copy paste from google's forums ? smile.gif
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i dont know, i never had timeouts with swiftp before even when the phone is idle. i've tried FTPserver also but swiftp is rather easier to use. one app to do 2 apps job is rather simpler for me i guess.

well, everyone has their own preferences. im just suggesting, not trying to compete with you master shahz.
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Tips to extend battery life on Android based phone]

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/andr...e673440ab&hl=en
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IMHO, the bad 'presses or publicity, about N1 is due to the lack of commitments from Google/HTC/TMo to resolve the problem as soon as possible. They let users doing the troubleshooting by themselves.
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Rooting in Android is getting superuser privileges (root), to give user more freedom to use the device. It is similar to Apple's product's jail break.
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Thx for the info....sorry for such noob question because i am not familiar with linux....i choose android and join android community because i found iphone is sort of like for retard..no offence to iphone user out there

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may i knw how do i delete an email account ?
and how do i close the background running apps ?

I find my phone drain battery quite fast...
I'm not a heavy user..only answer calls and reply sms...
1 day only maximum it can stand i think..

then in my office here, it always no network coverage..
I did the apn setting as first page has shown..i'm celcom user..
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not sure if you guys know this, but here goes

http://androidandme.com/2010/01/news/googl...android-phones/

hope they come up with more good games soon smile.gifb

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Yesterday, I tried some testing with N1. smile.gif My purpose is to set my N1 as NORMAL Phone to save some battery life or avoid others to 'exploring' your N1 smile.gif . Possible? Yup.... simple...

To downgrade N1 superphone to normal classic phone
1) Get and install Task Killer from Market

2) Disable data connection via cellular
a) Dial *#*#4636#*#*
b) Phone Information -> Menu -> More -> Disable data connection
Now the N1 WILL NOT connect to Internet

or)
Make new bogus APN and set it as default.

or) Edit the current APN, and change the APN to the bogus APN, example celcom3g -> celcomg3 smile.gif

3) Open Task Killer and KILL launcher...

Now your N1 only can use Dialer/Phone only.. Yes, you cannot access any other menus or apps at all.


If you bored the classic phone mode, reset the N1 to get back to original state; Push Power + vol_down + trackball buttons simultaneously . Don forget to correct the apn setting if you want the data connections (GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA) back.


BTW, do it at your own risk

Thank you.

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anyone here can answer my question as above?

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This my ways to conserve battery life.

1) Add Power control widget to the desktop/screen : Refer to my screenshot in page 3 in this thread. You can disable gps, bluetooth, wifi, set brightness, auto-sync, at you home screen. I enable them only when I need it.

2) Delete account ? Gmail or other accounts ?
Menu -> Settings -> Accounts & sync
You can :
1) Uncheck the auto-sync.
2) click the acocunt -> remove account

3) Use task killer. Download them from Market


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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 26 2010, 12:08 PM)
This my ways to conserve battery life.

1) Add Power control widget to the desktop/screen : Refer to my screenshot in page 3 in this thread. You can disable  gps, bluetooth, wifi, set brightness, auto-sync, at you home screen. I enable them only when I need it.

2) Delete account ? Gmail or other accounts ?
Menu -> Settings -> Accounts & sync
You can :
1) Uncheck the auto-sync.
2) click the acocunt -> remove account

3) Use task killer. Download them from Market
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To remove your google account, use bahathir's method or alternatively:

Home screen -> menu -> settings -> applications -> manage applications -> google service that you want to disable (make sure u enable the filter) and clear its data..
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just found out just now, hold on my email account in email..
an option will appear.
coz i always do this way, touch on the email account, then touch on option/menu key, then it appear only, account setting, add account..but no remove account
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I found out yesterday that my N1 min cpu scaling freq was only about 248mhz. On wake up from sleep, i felt a little sluggish behavior so i clocked minimum scaling freq to about 500mhz and i feel that my n1 is smoother now. And no battery loss!!
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shahz : IMHO, the most power eater in N1 is the DISPLAY/SCREEN smile.gif So, eventhough you set the min_freq to 500MHz, still nothing to compared to screen's power consumption, but you get more responsive.

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i think do not use the live wallpaper better..

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ccm: You are correct !! smile.gif the Live Wallpaper is just eye candy... smile.gif If you NOT open your home screen most of the time every 1 minute, then, the live wallpaper not using much power, I think.
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Can i ask what kind of data plan are you guys using? And how much do you pay per month for that.
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I am using Celcom 3G Voice + data plan. The data plan itself is MYR 98.
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 26 2010, 12:29 PM)
I found out yesterday that my N1 min cpu scaling freq was only about 248mhz. On wake up from sleep, i felt a little sluggish behavior so i clocked minimum scaling freq to about 500mhz and i feel that my n1 is smoother now. And no battery loss!!
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Shahz, do you mind share how you do that?
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Exactly..Apparently, the CPU usage is not that hogging as much as the screen is.. I use auto-brightness anyway so it just knows when to use more when needed..My battery lasts one day approx which is good enough for heavy user like me biggrin.gif

I'll share some cpu playing games with you guys. Please be careful when playing with these settings though. Use them at your own risk.

First of all, we are very happy to have cpufreq utility in our android phones which help us to tweak the processor to our liking..Here is what you can do..

1. Connect your phone to your computer (put your phone into sleep mode for about 10 seconds to let it idle)
2. After 10 seconds, run this command in your cmd/terminal

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adb shell cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq


You will likely get a value of "24500"

This is the value your phone is currently running (in sleep mode) and will be the freq when it wakes up. Jumping from 24500 all the way to 1GHz is a long journey so you may see som sluggish behavior until the CPU ahieves its optimum frequency and stabilizes..Now, lets check the min freq set to see whether your CPU is really running at its min speed already..To do this, run this code:

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adb shell cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq


This means, when your phone is running at its minimal usage, your CPU clocks at 245MHz..Now, we should check what are the available frequencies compiled with our Nexus One. For that, we run this line of code..

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adb shell cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies


You will see a list of available frequencies which range between 24500 to 998400 (1GHz)..So, now we shall change our minimum frequency to 499200 (500MHz) so the phone will always operate at least at 500MHz (which is roughly the frequency the HTC Hero runs at). To do this, we run this line of code:

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adb shell <enter>
echo 499200 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq


Now the min scaling freq is all set to 500MHz..You can verify it with the following line of code..

CODE
adb shell cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq


You should see "499200" as the value..

Beware: Do NOT set your CPU usage too high or you may overheat your phone resulting in crazy battery drainage and even worse, burn your phone smile.gif
If you followed the little guide above, you should be just fine. I figured out this myself so don't blame anyone (even me) if anything goes wrong. Do it at your own risk.

P/S: If I'm not mistaken, you need ROOT to achieve this but I'm not sure whether the unlocked bootloader allows cpufreq tweaks..

Have Fun biggrin.gif

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i m using voice plan plus unlimited data plan (rm38 for the data plan)
normally i just need to browse map, receiving email..upload photo to my picasa or facebook..I think rm38 is enough already for me, but don't expect it to watch youtube in high quality..

if i am in wifi area, i will use the wifi for higher speed smile.gif

planning to switch to RM98 per month (3.6mbps) but need to survey more how fast is it first...

then... 1 thing i would like to point out.. in my office here my phone always dead..always no network coverage but this never happened to my previous phone (n95, blackberry storm 9500)

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Why the difference in price although both are unlimited? Speed?
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speed...
128kbps,384kbps,3.6mbps..
rm38/68/98

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News update smile.gif
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/google-...age-bugs-patch/


Added on January 26, 2010, 4:15 pmshahz: Tips:
If you are using adb shell commands, do enclose it with qoute ''. or " especially when handing redirection ">"

Example
$ adb shell 'echo 499200 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq'

TQ smile.gif'

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QUOTE(zerigemok @ Jan 26 2010, 01:37 PM)
Can i ask what kind of data plan are you guys using? And how much do you pay per month for that.
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 26 2010, 03:37 PM)
News update smile.gif
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/google-...age-bugs-patch/


Added on January 26, 2010, 4:15 pmshahz: Tips:
If you are using adb shell commands, do enclose it with qoute ''. or " especially when handing redirection ">"

Example
$ adb shell 'echo 499200 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq'

TQ smile.gif'
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QUOTE(shenmui @ Jan 26 2010, 05:30 PM)
kalu guna prepaid utk 3g data kat nexus 1 kejap je abih.....aku isi rm60 3-4 ari dh abih....lastly aku delete 3g setting hya guna wifi utk surfing tenet, sync FB & gmail........ kohkohkohkohkoh
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kat sini ade limit 200mb utk 7.2mb, pastu die limit gprs je sweat.gif Tu yang kene tau berape banyak pakai.

N1 ETA = tomorrow drool.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(zerigemok @ Jan 26 2010, 07:13 PM)
kat sini ade limit 200mb utk 7.2mb, pastu die limit gprs je sweat.gif Tu yang kene tau berape banyak pakai.

N1 ETA = tomorrow  drool.gif  rclxm9.gif
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N1 will be introduced in Malaysia tmr right?
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erm no..i dont think so. All import only
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Of course..or maybe google will send to us ;-)
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TS, i wanna ask, can GOogle Nexus One sync contact/calendar data with MS outlook via USB cable? thx
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jan 26 2010, 11:22 PM)
N1 will be introduced in Malaysia tmr right?
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wat???? tomorrow... u must be kidding..... are you?
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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jan 26 2010, 10:41 PM)
TS, i wanna ask, can GOogle Nexus One sync contact/calendar data with MS outlook via USB cable? thx
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Yes and No. Nexus One can be synced to Outlook using third party bridge though. That bridge costs about $35 USD if I'm not mistaken wink.gif

Thing is, Nexus One seemlessly syncs with Google server. Once you add your contacts, they will be synced with Google's server and stored there. I find it a much reliable backup personally because you never know when your server can get in risk.

www.google.com/sync



I think those guys misunderstood zerigemok's statement saying "ETA = tomorrow". He meant HIS phone I suppose. LOL
Don't spread rumors blindly guys smile.gif
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1)Nexus one touch screen problems....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NidwwmfjFAM&feature=related

2)Nexus one 3g , 3gs and edge problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ-P4bsc9kQ

3)Booting issue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sAEn7HpCaI&feature=related

MORE COMING UP .....!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8deIeLIzm6Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIDeULQGlgw&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW-XF7ocJn4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI_IeLQVCQU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-pSu3vRIFw&feature=related

GOSH....i hope this stuff dont happens to my phone =.="""

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guys, what are sleep mode for android phone?
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seem a lot of people are using N1 here. so I got mine and want contact so how? must sync with Google?
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any1 have know how do I transfer contacts from blackberry storm 9500 to my nexus one? I try many way and I couldn't export my contacts from bb 9500.. then using bluetooth send also cannot..no such option in my bb storm..
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Try this

http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f7/swit...lackberry-2641/

N1 can read/import VCF file. So, if your Storm can export contacts in the vcf format, then the task will much easier.


Added on January 27, 2010, 12:05 pmaruja_69 : Sync with google is an OPTION. Up to you whether you want to use it or not. smile.gif

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when I click on a photo -> share -> gmail..
it comes out with this error msg: the application gmail (process com.google.android.gm) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again..

i try many times , restart, off and on still like this..


1 more question, how do I forward a sms/ mms as an email and send?
I receive a MMS i want to forward it as an email..

then, how do I save the picture to preferred location ?
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If I did that, GMail starts with compose new message with the picture(s) as the attacments.

Did you set or logged into your gmail accound before start sharing?
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my gmail is always logged in one oh..
your way worked, bahathir..
but the procedure is long

1) hold on the picture in MMS
2) copy the attachment to SD card
3) press home screen
4) go to gmail
5) compose
6) press menu + attachment
7) choose your attachment

type the msg you wanted to type ( how do I copy if i would like to copy the text from MMS )



My previous phone has just press on forward as --> email --> then type email address u can send already..



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Copy MMS message and paste to Gmail ...

Simple.
Open the MMS or SMS
Tap and HOLD at the texts. Message options dialog will appears
Tap at Copy message text
Close MMS and open GMail -> Compose.
In the Message body box, Tap and HOLD. Edit text dialog will appears
Tap at Paste

Good luck smile.gif

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If I'd just like to copy one sentence of the whole msg ?
and is it possible for me to select multiple msg and delete?
don have to hold one by one and press delete..

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He heh he.. you win..... You = 1, Nexus = 0 smile.gif


Added on January 27, 2010, 6:35 pmHow about look for apps for the task... in Market.. or androlib.com

TQ.

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i will look for apps in market see got any improved sms software..
thx anyway. I just received mine few days..still learning how to use..



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http://androidcommunity.com/overclock-your...-1ghz-20100126/

Overclock your Droid to 1.1GHZ

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^-------- Seriously..dont give idiotic suggestions like that..you are putting people's phone in big risk! You better delete that post unless you want to be responsible over burnt nexus one here!!

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Lol. Let the burning begin
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Lol. Let the burning begin
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For Nexus One, there are four different types of screen protector available.

PRIVACY (Price: RM17) --> http://cgi.ebay.com/1-PRIVACY-Screen-Prote...=item45f09766e2
MATTE (Price: RM10) --> http://cgi.ebay.com/1-ANTI-GLARE-Screen-Pr...=item3a56f942c7
MIRROR (Price: RM10) --> http://cgi.ebay.com/1-MIRROR-Full-Screen-P...=item3a56f9427b
CLEAR (Price: RM7) --> http://cgi.ebay.com/2-CLEAR-Full-Screen-Pr...=item45f0976679


user posted image



I can order for you epikcase for your Nexus One too.
Many colours to choose from.
Cost only RM15.
Link here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-EPIK-Case-Frosted-Sk...=item45f097596d


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The Nexus One epikcase can also be seen in this video review here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OE_3klmNoE



Do let me know if you are interested. smile.gif



Regards,
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Wahh..That looks sweet! What colors do you have?
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Do you guys know some reputable place/online store to buy nexus battery? Need to buy some..
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@irwan,
why u want to buy battery?



@AskarPerang,
i'm interested to buy the grey one.. (not sure grey or not, but the 2nd from left in your posted pic)..

hehe how to proceed?
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Some other N1's accesories.

http://www.seidioonline.com/category-s/4025.htm
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Droid overclocked to 1.3 GHz; Nexus One still faster

http://androidandme.com/2010/01/news/droid...e-still-faster/

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Hi guys, i am back after 1 week of MIA (because i am busy toying around with my spanking new N1 brought in from HK..hehe).

Excellent device in many way. There are obvious room for improvements on the software (which i hope google is closing the gaps).

One of my issue is to get it connected a Cisco concentrator VPN. Also it had issue in importing p12 certs that has CA chains exported from IE or Mozilla. Had to use unix openssl to save it to DER then back to P12 format, only then it would work. But still failed to connect to cisco VPN.. *sigh*. Tempted to use the 3rd party Cisco VPN client in market but require N1 to be rooted (not ready for that yet until i see what Goog had in store for the upcoming OTA update this week)

Two occasions of attempting to mute an ongoing conference call (by pressing the mute soft button), it kept hitting "0" instead which is two buttons up. That is odd, luckily it didn't happen all the time. Anyone seen this?

I wish there were some way to store additional number and input to dialpad automatically on demand, so that i do not have to remember conference pin numbers tongue.gif


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Did anyone flash to CM's version?
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anyone of u asking fren to bring in from SG?

put in pocket or straight box in bag under the scanning machine lolz.
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anyone here using G1 b4? i would like to know how the the battery life compare to G1..
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Hi guys,

Just wondering by any chance you think HTC Malaysia will bring in this device, or offered by Google Malaysia? (just for the sake of local warranty). Is there any announcement or some sort in regards to this or our only choice is to get from HK/SG?
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alright. talk about warrranty.
it states it has worldwide warranty.
but has anyone called up HTC Malaysia to confirm with this?
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Don't think that's the case. I think its saying worldwide in terms of US, HK and Singapore. If every HTC centre has the facility to repair N1, i don't see why google didn't open it to everyone smile.gif
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Remember that, the N1 is a Beta product smile.gif... and those 4 countries are the TESTING places. smile.gif

I think N1 will comes into Malaysia sooner or later.... either by official HTC or LYNers smile.gif
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 28 2010, 05:17 PM)
Remember that, the N1 is a Beta product smile.gif... and those 4 countries are the TESTING places. smile.gif

I think N1 will comes into Malaysia sooner or later.... either by official HTC or LYNers smile.gif
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Now that the Nexus One Desktop Dock is officially out for USD45.00, I wonder what is the good thing about it. Maybe wait for another day to read reviews about it.
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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jan 28 2010, 11:34 AM)
anyone of u asking fren to bring in from SG?

put in pocket or straight box in bag under the scanning machine lolz.
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xavier7, you bringing it in from sg?
it would be great if someone could share some tips on smuggling the whole thing (inclusive of box and stuff) in here
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just use bus to travel back..they wont even bother to check your luggage biggrin.gif
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just that easy ivanlmh?
why my friend always encourage not to bring the box along

ahh, i need to wait awhile more before i made my order, coz my friend ain't coming back to malaysia until march....
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Yeah..just bring back the box..not a problem at all.

If you are still scared..the box is not sealed..so u can ask ur fren take out the phone..put into the pouch given together, and go pass the custom. They can't catch u if it's an used item rite smile.gif
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for those of you would like to buy nexus one....u can order from malaysia already

yesssssssssssssssssssssssss


straight go to google website and then order from there

not need to buy from those para import



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QUOTE(bryant76 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:13 AM)
for those of you would like to buy nexus one....u can order from malaysia already

yesssssssssssssssssssssssss
straight go to google website and then order from there

not need to buy from those para import
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it show it's not available in your country..

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QUOTE(bryant76 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:13 AM)
for those of you would like to buy nexus one....u can order from malaysia already

yesssssssssssssssssssssssss
straight go to google website and then order from there

not need to buy from those para import
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Lol....are you 100% sure about that? hmm.gif
That would be the best news ever.
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QUOTE(dpo_99_sl @ Jan 28 2010, 10:23 PM)
xavier7, you bringing it in from sg?
it would be great if someone could share some tips on smuggling the whole thing (inclusive of box and stuff) in here
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If you really want the box and other materials, perhaps it could be unfolded and flattened and just posted back from SG as a regular letter, while you carry the phone, pouch and charger with you?

And if customs ask you why you're carrying two phones, and only one has a SIM, you can always say you use to other one with a local prepaid SIM when you're overseas, it's cheaper that way.

Haven't tried any of this. 8-)




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Still so damn blur with brand new N1 and must be activate with google and what is the fastest way to send contact outlook to N1..please help?


Added on January 29, 2010, 2:00 amExport Contacts from Outlook and Import to Nexus One

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I'm sure there's a lot of you that have your contacts already synced with MS Outlook 2007 and need to get them to your new Nexus. Here's an easy way to do it:

Step 1
Open Outlook and click on your contacts
Go to File > Import and Export > Select Export to a file - Next
Select Comma Separated Values (Windows) - Next
Select Contacts - Next
Save the file in a known location - Next
Click on 'Map Custom Fields' and make sure Default Maps are set
Click Finish
Step 2
Log Into your Gmail account
Click Contacts in the left menu
Click Import in the top right
Choose file and select the .csv file you just saved (add them to a group if you want)
Click Import
Your contacts will be imported into your Gmail account
Step 3
On your Nexus make sure you have connected your Gmail account
Go to contacts > Menu > Accounts
Select your Gmail account > Menu > Sync Now
Your new contacts will be imported - Any duplicates should be merged.


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Did anyone flash to CM's version?
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anyone here using G1 b4? i would like to know how the the battery life compare to G1..
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alright. talk about warrranty.
it states it has worldwide warranty.
but has anyone called up HTC Malaysia to confirm with this?
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When someone say "worldwide warranty" it doesnt mean you can get a warranty in the middle of Uganda desert or something..lol..
Worldwide warranty means it will support any country that has its support..eg: Singapore phones can be serviced in HK or US..and vice versa..
But ONLY countries that has it already..Malaysia is not supported..You want to fix it, you have to take it to Singapore..
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Bro...i try follow your instruction for installing 3G setting but fail bcos cant type anything on it...any where can i get set by step..need it urgent for gmail sync for contact?...thanks

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Shah. Some reviewers claim the apps must be stored on the internal memory only. Can you confirm this? If it's true then there is a limited number of apps we can keep in android phones ?

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Yep..Unless you root it smile.gif
My apps are stored on SD now..You sure you want me to tell you the limits of how many apps I can store? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bryant76 @ Jan 29 2010, 01:13 AM)
for those of you would like to buy nexus one....u can order from malaysia already

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straight go to google website and then order from there

not need to buy from those para import
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Really??? but it stated not avaialble =.=
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QUOTE(bryant76 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:13 AM)
for those of you would like to buy nexus one....u can order from malaysia already

yesssssssssssssssssssssssss
straight go to google website and then order from there

not need to buy from those para import
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That's so fake. No idea why u gave such a bold and untrue statement smile.gif Do you have proof or something?


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it seems some of the IPs allow us order it
it doesn't shows "The model is not available at your country"
btw im using streamyx
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Anyone here manage to add yahoomail to push the email to nexus one?
I have tried googleing it but none found..

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Ok found it on nexusforum.. need to do it manually though..

here is the link http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-o...o-mail-app.html



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Yep..Unless you root it smile.gif
My apps are stored on SD now..You sure you want me to tell you the limits of how many apps I can store? tongue.gif
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Needless. If you can store it on the sd card, chucking in a 32gig memory means you can fill the Phone with apps till it runs out of space. Now that's astonishing.
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QUOTE(dpo_99_sl @ Jan 28 2010, 10:50 PM)
just that easy ivanlmh?
why my friend always encourage not to bring the box along

ahh, i need to wait awhile more before i made my order, coz my friend ain't coming back to malaysia until march....
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from what i heard, they have this machine scanning your bags. so yeah, its better the phone be put in the pocket of the person carrying it
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Eventhough you can open the N1's ordering form, but, if your delivery address is not in the 4 testing countries, you cannot order it anyway. I already did that on the FIRST or second day of the announcement. smile.gif

BTW, Adnroid apps are small, starting from sevaral kB to several MB only. In this case you may install aroud several hundreds of apps in the built-in storage. Also, the speed for displaying the apps mightl be slowed down too.
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oh yea, anyone of you use the phone without charging it? I'm getting mine tomorrow, coz i would still be outside, am thinking would it hurt the phone's battery.
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 29 2010, 11:37 AM)
Eventhough you can open the N1's ordering form, but, if your delivery address is not in the 4 testing countries, you cannot order it anyway. I already did that on  the FIRST or second day of the announcement. smile.gif

BTW, Adnroid apps are small, starting from sevaral kB to several MB only. In this case you may install aroud several hundreds of apps in the built-in storage. Also, the speed for displaying the apps mightl be slowed down too.
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haha too bad... if not would place order straight away... tongue.gif
so far any other issues? like not getting good 3G signals?
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You can put the box in your laptop bag, I also bring 2 portable audio dac/amps in 1 box. No problem at the scanning. smile.gif... BTW, the scanning is for the security purposes and monitored by police, not kastam. if I am not wrong.
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 29 2010, 02:51 AM)
Yep..Using that and loving it..But am not using the latest patch..latest patch tends to FC the launcher, restarting it over and over again..
Its slightly lesser than HTC Hero (When you say G1, state which model Hero or Dream). Probably because of the very bright screen and Live Wallpapers ONLY. The CPU doesn't hog the battery although being almost twice the speed of Hero.
When someone say "worldwide warranty" it doesnt mean you can get a warranty in the middle of  Uganda desert or something..lol..
Worldwide warranty means it will support any country that has its support..eg: Singapore phones can be serviced in HK or US..and vice versa..
But ONLY countries that has it already..Malaysia is not supported..You want to fix it, you have to take it to Singapore..
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oh... i thought G1 was htc dream aka T-mobile G1... didnt know hero also bear G1 name... btw didnt know how hero batt life but dun see much complain, so it shud be sufficient... and nexus 1 is little bit lesser..huh.... its hard to determine as subject to individual usage... i assume that one day max use for calling, sms...moderate surfing shud sufficient ??
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xavier : If I am not wrong, the battery is already being charged up to 50% of capacity. So I think you can use it straight from the box. Good luck. smile.gif


Added on January 29, 2010, 12:01 pm
QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Jan 29 2010, 02:53 AM)
Bro...i try follow your instruction for installing 3G setting but fail bcos cant type anything on it...any where can i get set by step..need it urgent for gmail sync for contact?...thanks
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Please describe how you did it...

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Bro..so sorry I have already follow your step on step for almost one hours....thanks
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I presumed that you already at the "Add New APN"
What did you get when you click at Name or at the blank box ?

Did the virtual keyboard appeared?

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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 29 2010, 02:51 AM)
Yep..Using that and loving it..But am not using the latest patch..latest patch tends to FC the launcher, restarting it over and over again..
Its slightly lesser than HTC Hero (When you say G1, state which model Hero or Dream). Probably because of the very bright screen and Live Wallpapers ONLY. The CPU doesn't hog the battery although being almost twice the speed of Hero.
When someone say "worldwide warranty" it doesnt mean you can get a warranty in the middle of  Uganda desert or something..lol..
Worldwide warranty means it will support any country that has its support..eg: Singapore phones can be serviced in HK or US..and vice versa..
But ONLY countries that has it already..Malaysia is not supported..You want to fix it, you have to take it to Singapore..
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you confirm with HTC M'sia?
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QUOTE(xavier7 @ Jan 29 2010, 11:29 AM)
from what i heard, they have this machine scanning your bags. so yeah, its better the phone be put in the pocket of the person carrying it
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They did random body check and if they found you carrying 3-4 phones, reason for personal use is not too convincing also laugh.gif
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Get the Nexus One User guide manual at :
http://www.google.com/support/android/bin/...=en&topic=27201


aruja : Refer to page 63, how to set APN.
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Jan 29 2010, 11:48 AM)
xavier : If I am not wrong, the battery is already being charged up to 50% of capacity. So I think you can use it straight from the box. Good luck. smile.gif


Added on January 29, 2010, 12:01 pm
Please describe how you did it...
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Thanks Bahathir biggrin.gif


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They did random body check and if they found you carrying 3-4 phones, reason for personal use is not too convincing also  laugh.gif
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LOL i'm not smuggling dude laugh.gif

3-4 phones in pocket seem very bulky tongue.gif

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can the google map gps navigation be used in malaysia?
is there any shop in lowyat start selling nexus one (imported from sg) ?
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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:36 PM)
you confirm with HTC M'sia?
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Hmm. AFAIK, Malaysia is in.(provided this model is already on Malaysia's rack)
But bear in mind u'll still be charged if u bought from US and got them serviced in SG. nod.gif
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the navigator is working in malaysia.
but no voice i think..i am still new to my phone
just tested the navigator it will show your location once u open, u just type where u want to go..it willguide u
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For navigation, I am using the hacked GMap.I also got the navigation voice, I think. smile.gif

Warranty... at least I don't have to pay full amount if I want to repair it.


Added on January 29, 2010, 6:42 pm dreamwar You may not find the N1 in Low Yat Plaza, but yoy can easily find it in lowyet.net smile.gif

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ic..great..maybe looking for one soon
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bahathir, may i know how to get the hacked one ah ??

then.. has anyone tried to charge your n1 by other brand charger? or other usb cable?

today i charged by a cheap usb cable and my nexus one menu all the texts bcome crazy text.. the location of where the text should be all run off already..
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I couldn't do Bluetooth transfers N1>PC so yesterday I updated BT drivers on my laptop. It solved N1>PC but broke PC>N1 hmm.gif Good news is Bluetooth File Transfer app is now working for me smile.gif

I also tried FTP but I think I'm gonna stick with USB for large transfers for now. FTP itself is a breeze to setup with any of the FTP apps on the market and once a file gets going the speed is awesome, too. Problem is, it takes a while for each transfer and each file to begin. These gaps add up and it becomes a drag. Maybe the implementations are clunky right now?


Added on January 30, 2010, 11:47 amBtw, AndFTP was pretty impressive but it's actually an FTP client (not a server, afaik) so you have to run an FTP server on your PC. I ran FileZilla server and the transfers went fast and smooth.

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quick question, at the phone status it shows my mobile network signal strength. Mine is -101dBm and 6 asu. How does it works? Higher value = better signal?
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Frankly, speaking is one of the best phone i ever own...the camera is so so but better than HD2, speaker is not that bad compared with HD2 and Samsung HD but a bit soft during in coming call. But the speed is much fast especially sms to someone...my HD2 spelling check is always screw up. After I hacked my rom for Samsung HD is also giving the same prob..cant sms fast bcos the words always screw up. Listening music with Nexus One is damn clear and nice with BT headset. But the screen is a bit small compared with HD2..hehehehe
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guys how long do you expect google will bring n1 to msia?expected price ?
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Jan 30 2010, 12:37 PM)
Frankly, speaking is one of the best phone i ever own...the camera is so so but better than HD2, speaker is not that bad compared with HD2 and Samsung HD but a bit soft during in coming call. But the speed is much fast especially sms to someone...my HD2 spelling check is always screw up. After I hacked my rom for Samsung HD is also giving the same prob..cant sms fast bcos the words always screw up. Listening music with Nexus One is damn clear and nice with BT headset. But the screen is a bit small compared with HD2..hehehehe
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Speaker so-so only for me really. But 1st time held the phone in hand it felt majestic lol. Looks really good in person
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the speaker is really terrible.. not even say " so so " for me..

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I dont really use speaker so doesnt matter much for me. But the thing that annoys me most is using it outside..can't see at all if there's sunlight. Any way to make it better?
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brightness adjustment..

can turn the screen brighter under sunlight and view perfectly..

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Jan 29 2010, 11:00 AM)
Needless. If you can store it on the sd card, chucking in a 32gig memory means you  can fill the Phone with apps till it runs out of space. Now that's astonishing.
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LOL..32GB..I dont think if you install ALL apps form the market also you will fill up all that space..haha..
Just Kidding..you must remember, there is still a portion of your phone memory used to store the critical information of the apps smile.gif

QUOTE(syyang85 @ Jan 29 2010, 12:36 PM)
you confirm with HTC M'sia?
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Why should I? Read the T&C of Google if you have not..Its not the first time I buy an original phone afterall..Everytime I buy it, I read the T&C properly..Not many people do this..Consider it my bad habit if you have to..But thats how "worldwide warranty" works..


QUOTE(zerigemok @ Jan 30 2010, 11:53 AM)
quick question, at the phone status it shows my mobile network signal strength.  Mine is -101dBm and 6 asu. How does it works? Higher value = better signal?
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Hehe..You know what..We have the right expert here for this..Bahathir.. tongue.gif
Bahathir, I think its time for you to unveil your signal processing understanding..Even I know just the basics.. smile.gif
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Posting this on my N1 now : )
This is one cool phone!

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day's Celcom3G is horrible around my home.


Expert? No lah my friend. I also know basic thing only. -101dBm is lower then -89 dBm. Just plain math laugh.gif . I really looking forward for the Google's update.


Added on January 30, 2010, 11:42 pmN1 performs best outdoor. Once I got -57 dBm and 2000 kbps DL. Hope getting better performance after the update.

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ahaha..samalah kite then.. biggrin.gif
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So it really is bigger value = better eh. I noticed when i'm indoor, i mostly get edge only. But when i go near a window, 3g and damn fast connection rclxms.gif I'm finding it hard to find any fault with this phone. The one with outdoor usage, ccm said just turn on brightness level.

If i'm being picky, it's the screen timeout lock lol. The power button is too far to reactivate my phone tongue.gif Would prefer it if i could tap/touch the touchscreen to activate it. Or is there some trick i don't know too?

A neat trick i found to add yahoo mail for non mail plus users


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zerigemok, I will assume you do know how to change the sleep time or an application that can keep the screen awake until its switched off and the phone goes back to auto sleep mode wink.gif

Even I had problems finding troubles with this phone..It just feels perfect..Once Android apps reach the same as iPhone apps, its gonna be even better..Even after having it for almost a month now, the phone feels so elegant and it wows everyone whenever I go anywhere biggrin.gif
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Yeah i do. But keeping the phone awake will drain the battery life so i prefer not to. I just wish there is another way of activating it other than using the power button
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but the other buttons are touch sensitive..lol..and they are deactivated in sleep mode..
how else would you want to wake it up?
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Even that seldom used trackball would've been better imo
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QUOTE(shahz @ Jan 30 2010, 09:31 PM)
LOL..32GB..I dont think if you install ALL apps form the market also you will fill up all that space..haha..
Just Kidding..you must remember, there is still a portion of your phone memory used to store the critical information of the apps smile.gif
Why should I? Read the T&C of Google if you have not..Its not the first time I buy an original phone afterall..Everytime I buy it, I read the T&C properly..Not many people do this..Consider it my bad habit if you have to..But thats how "worldwide warranty" works..
Hehe..You know what..We have the right expert here for this..Bahathir.. tongue.gif
Bahathir, I think its time for you to unveil your signal processing understanding..Even I know just the basics.. smile.gif
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Do you guys think would it be possible to be boot up window mobile 6.5 on nexus one phone? if it does it would a ownage phone lol
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QUOTE(ccm @ Jan 29 2010, 07:21 PM)
bahathir, may i know how to get the hacked one ah ??

then.. has anyone tried to charge your n1 by other brand charger? or other usb cable?

today i charged by a cheap usb cable and my nexus one menu all the texts bcome crazy text.. the location of where the text should be all run off already..
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Oo.. Now I am using the charger which comes with the N1 (1000mA) . Previously, I am using Nokia E52's wall charger, (rating 1200mA). I have no problem with both charger.Beside using charger, I also regularly connect N1 to my laptop with Noka USB-microUSB or the one which comes with the N1. In any cases, I don't have any problem.

Try restarting your N1, and see if the problem still occurred.


TQ..
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i thought all microUSB charger port will be compatible?
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Yes, I also think that all micoUSB chargers are compatible... but,the N1 is NOT compatible with FAULTY chargers or cables smile.gif


Added on January 31, 2010, 7:35 pmSite notes:
Tried to transfer songs from my Laptop to N1 via several methods
Transfer speed.
Bluetooth : 100 kByte/s
WiFi using FTPserver app. : 600 kByte/s.
USB mass storage mode : 2MByte/s

Oppps... the N1 just self-rebooted smile.gif... I don't know why, I am just happy... smile.gif he heh he he. The time to 'root' my N1 is VERY VERY near.... smile.gif..

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WHAT? WinMO on Android phone? Seriously, please tell me that you meant "running Android on WinMo device" instead!!


Added on January 31, 2010, 8:52 pmbahathir, I get 3.2Mbps over Wifi with FTP server tongue.gif

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shahz : Look carefully at the unit...

With wifi, i got 600 kByte/s which is about 5 Mbit/s (Mbps) smile.gif and also with FTPServer...

Or, it took 5 seconds to transfer 3 MB file.

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WHAT? WinMO on Android phone? Seriously, please tell me that you meant "running Android on WinMo device" instead!!


Added on January 31, 2010, 8:52 pmbahathir, I get 3.2Mbps over Wifi with FTP server tongue.gif
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I saw a link....they install android on a winmo htc hd 2 ......and they canm choose between winmo and android during boot up....
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I think it is 'Possible' to insall WinMo in N1, if the WinMo has all the needed drivers.
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I think it is 'Possible' to insall WinMo in N1, if the WinMo has all the needed drivers.
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by the way ....the smoothness of touch screen compare to Iphone 3gs still kinda of chunky is it becos of nexus one hardware or android?
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Yup,the same feeling from my friends too. Here is my assumptions.

Touch screen resolution: N1:atleast 800x480 vs iPhone 480x320
N1 has to process 2.5 more pixels than iphones

But, I already get used to it, so not a big issues.


Side notes:
This is how the Snapdragon CPU changes it's CPU speed. In my test shows the live wallpaper will escalate the CPU frequency to the Max, (1Ghz) most of the time especially the "Water' live wallpaper. But the good news is, the cpu freq will be lowered to 245MHz when it is in standby. smile.gif The Nexus live wallpaper is not bad at all. The cpu speed stays 245 MHz, unless we touch it many times. smile.gif But, I prefers solid black static wallpaper.

$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/trans_table

Sample result

CODE

  From  :    To
        :    245000    384000    460800    499200    576000    614400    652800    691200    768000    806400    844800    998400
  245000:         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0       488
  384000:       121         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0        42
  460800:        54        27         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0        32
  499200:        27        13        15         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0        24
  576000:        34        22        11        25         0         0         0         0         0         0         0        49
  614400:        49         6         5         7        23         0         0         0         0         0         0        31
  652800:        29         6         5         6        24        13         0         0         0         0         0        42
  691200:         8         3         3         2        13        11        21         0         0         0         0        23
  768000:        22         8         5         2        14        18        23        18         0         0         0        57
  806400:        10         3         4         1         5         4         8        11        33         0         0        42
  844800:         6         1         3         1         2         3         7         7        18         5         0        32
  998400:       129        74        62        35        60        72        66        48       115       116        85         0



Another one is time_in_state, which shows how long (in micro second) the CPU was in that particular cpu speed.

$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state
CODE

245000 493919
384000 3022
460800 1892
499200 1356
576000 1431
614400 5971
652800 3187
691200 582
768000 2019
806400 1577
844800 913
998400 19362


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QUOTE(bahathir @ Feb 1 2010, 12:16 AM)
Yup,the same feeling from my friends too. Here is my assumptions.

Touch screen resolution: N1:atleast 800x480 vs iPhone 480x320
N1 has to process 2.5 more pixels than iphones

But, I already get used to it, so not a big issues.
Side notes:
This is how the Snapdragon CPU changes it's CPU speed. In my test shows the live wallpaper will escalate the CPU frequency to the Max, (1Ghz) most of the time... So, to save power, I recommends to use static wall paper... In my case, I use only SOLID BLACK wall paper.

$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/trans_table

Sample result

CODE

  From  :    To
        :    245000    384000    460800    499200    576000    614400    652800    691200    768000    806400    844800    998400
  245000:         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0       488
  384000:       121         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0        42
  460800:        54        27         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0        32
  499200:        27        13        15         0         0         0         0         0         0         0         0        24
  576000:        34        22        11        25         0         0         0         0         0         0         0        49
  614400:        49         6         5         7        23         0         0         0         0         0         0        31
  652800:        29         6         5         6        24        13         0         0         0         0         0        42
  691200:         8         3         3         2        13        11        21         0         0         0         0        23
  768000:        22         8         5         2        14        18        23        18         0         0         0        57
  806400:        10         3         4         1         5         4         8        11        33         0         0        42
  844800:         6         1         3         1         2         3         7         7        18         5         0        32
  998400:       129        74        62        35        60        72        66        48       115       116        85         0

Another one is time_in_state, which shows how long (in micro second) the CPU was in that particular cpu speed.

$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state   
CODE

245000 493919
384000 3022
460800 1892
499200 1356
576000 1431
614400 5971
652800 3187
691200 582
768000 2019
806400 1577
844800 913
998400 19362

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Which means the touch screen get chunky on nexus one is because of the hardware?
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I am not sure whether the drastic CPU freq changes contribute to the clunkiness, which I found not too serious.

I also did tests with the touchscreen accuracy, and response. I am using 'Simply Draw' apps (muti touch simple drawing apps), Google;s SDK dev;s Pointer Locations app, and Multi touch test apps, and I am quite satisfied with it.

There many few factors which might affecting the touch accuracy
1) Finger : Yeah... our fingers need to be clean and not greasy.
2) Screen : Same as above smile.gif I found that the screen is a bit 'sticky' clean, so, sometime, it is not as smooth as silk. Might be a matte screen protector can give much silky smooth touch.


Added on February 1, 2010, 12:56 amAlso, make sure your palm did not touch the edge of the screen. It might cause errors in registering touches.

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QUOTE(bahathir @ Feb 1 2010, 12:52 AM)
I am not sure whether the drastic CPU freq changes contribute to the clunkiness, which I found not too serious.

I also did tests with the touchscreen accuracy, and response. I am using 'Simply Draw' apps (muti touch simple drawing apps),  Google;s SDK dev;s Pointer Locations app, and Multi touch test apps, and I am quite satisfied with it.

There many few factors which might affecting the touch accuracy
1) Finger : Yeah... our fingers need to be clean and not greasy.
2) Screen : Same as above smile.gif I found that the screen is a bit 'sticky' clean, so, sometime, it is not as smooth as silk. Might be a matte screen protector can give much silky smooth touch.


Added on February 1, 2010, 12:56 amAlso, make sure your palm did not touch the edge of the screen. It might cause errors in registering touches.
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thats lot of info.....are you working for some telco company or something.....u seem very knowledgeble on all this stuff....

From what you mention above seem like the problem is from android....they need to fine tune further for touch screen?
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No lah. I just an enthusiast who loves hardware and software. Most of the infos are available in the net. Just neeed some efforts and little luck. : )

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While those info are very useful, it is also important to know that the ROM has a very big role in how the phone functions. That is why there are custom ROMs. The default ROMs are quite badly developed so these modders alter them to make it faster and smoother. I rooted my N1, flashed CM, updated CPU freq and my phone already functions better than iPhone smile.gif There are lots of stuff coming in future. For example, the compcache apparently will not be needed anymore soon as there is a different way to manage it.
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Eh, I want to clarify here ah, I alittle blu blur, n1 can support class6 Kingston? And does it have a radio?
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QUOTE(LYW @ Feb 1 2010, 08:03 AM)
Eh, I want to clarify here ah, I alittle blu blur, n1 can support class6 Kingston? And does it have a radio?
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Of course it does support class 6. In fact, its recommended to get class 6 for optimum performance smile.gif I am planning to order my class 6 card form US this time around. Kinda don't trust our local products. You never know the integrity. The last thing I want is lose my precious data smile.gif And yes, it does have a "radio" if you know which radio i'm referring to..LOL..If you're referring to FM transmitter, it has the transmitter, but its deactivated..Awaiting someone to unlock it soon smile.gif

QUOTE(HaN18 @ Feb 1 2010, 11:16 AM)
Actually what is rooted phone? Jail break? Will it make. My n1 faster? What is the. Pro and con?
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Yeah..something like that..Jail break is on iPhone and its illegal to do so..Root is to get super user permission on your phone giving you total control on what you can do with the phone..Root does not have anything to do with the N1 speed..But once you root, you can install a custom ROM which can speed up your N1..
Pros - Endless possibilities, Super user permission, recovery system in case you screw up the phone..lol
Cons - Warranty void (until you lock back the phone), also you can turn into a zombie if you don't root your phone..lol.. j/k..Thats the only con of not rooting..
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Oh okay thanks for the reply hmmm
.. to install a custom rom we need to buy and install it to boots up? Kinda risky if anything happen hahaha.. awww!! The speaker for n one kinda sucks LOL! And is there any tethering function for n1?
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In Android, 'ROM' is just a software which being flashed into the device's ROM.

Currently, I am using Azilink (apps from Market), which can do the USB tethering. The process is not straight forward, but, still fun to do it. smile.gif


Speaker : Mmm.... it just OK. Better than my Nokia E52.
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Hmmmm I can't find the application for tethering in market..
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Shahz..when will u order the memory from US?
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Oopss... Sorry, you can get azilink here smile.gif

http://code.google.com/p/azilink/
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QUOTE(shahz @ Feb 1 2010, 03:12 AM)
While those info are very useful, it is also important to know that the ROM has a very big role in how the phone functions. That is why there are custom ROMs. The default ROMs are quite badly developed so these modders alter them to make it faster and smoother. I rooted my N1, flashed CM, updated CPU freq and my phone already functions better than iPhone smile.gif There are lots of stuff coming in future. For example, the compcache apparently will not be needed anymore soon as there is a different way to manage it.
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What is flashed CM?....

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QUOTE(shahz @ Feb 1 2010, 11:25 AM)
Of course it does support class 6. In fact, its recommended to get class 6 for optimum performance smile.gif I am planning to order my class 6 card form US this time around. Kinda don't trust our local products. You never know the integrity. The last thing I want is lose my precious data smile.gif And yes, it does have a "radio" if you know which radio i'm referring to..LOL..If you're referring to FM transmitter, it has the transmitter, but its deactivated..Awaiting someone to unlock it soon smile.gif
Yeah..something like that..Jail break is on iPhone and its illegal to do so..Root is to get super user permission on your phone giving you total control on what you can do with the phone..Root does not have anything to do with the N1 speed..But once you root, you can install a custom ROM which can speed up your N1..
Pros - Endless possibilities, Super user permission, recovery system in case you screw up the phone..lol
Cons - Warranty void (until you lock back the phone), also you can turn into a zombie if you don't root your phone..lol.. j/k..Thats the only con of not rooting..
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You can have recovery system ??? so cool!!
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lol..yeah..just like the PSP..
I'm getting my SD card soon..Thinking of getting Toshiba class 6 if possible..
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getting mine soon... worried abt the loudness of the speaker and the virtual keyboard sensitivity... used my my qwerty kb previously... sweat.gif

can anyone here do some convincing?? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lek_e30 @ Feb 1 2010, 04:17 PM)
getting mine soon... worried abt the loudness of the speaker and the virtual keyboard sensitivity... used my my qwerty kb previously... sweat.gif

can anyone here do some convincing?? tongue.gif
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Read all the posts in this thread laa smile.gif... You may found the answer. smile.gif
Keyboard : Sensitive. Practices make perfect smile.gif

Speaker : No comment. It is loud enough to woke me up in the morning. I use 'Rooster Alarm' sound. Really annoying. smile.gif. IMHO, the sound is being optimized for VOICE. So do not expect Hi-Fi grade speaker. One thing for sure, it is much more louder than my Nokia E52.
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http://gizmodo.com/5460694/steve-jobs-goog...mantra-is-bulls

"I" - Steve Jobs: Google's "Don't Be Evil" Mantra is "Bulls***"

He is shaking man....haaaa
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QUOTE(bahathir @ Feb 1 2010, 05:56 PM)
Read all the posts in this thread laa smile.gif... You may found the answer. smile.gif
Keyboard : Sensitive. Practices make perfect smile.gif

Speaker : No comment. It is loud enough to woke me up in the morning.  I use 'Rooster Alarm' sound. Really annoying. smile.gif. IMHO, the sound is being optimized for VOICE. So do not expect Hi-Fi grade speaker. One thing for sure, it is much more louder than my Nokia E52.
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yup have gone thru this thread from the first day shahz got his babe....

keyboard i assume is on par with iphone if not better....

speaker... this thread alone got few ppl mentioned its softness.... as my hearing not that sensitive also.... tongue.gif
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I plan to root my Nexus One, and I know this will void the warranty.. but is there a way to unroot back before sending for warranty so that "they" will not know that we rooted the device before?
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QUOTE(bonanno @ Feb 1 2010, 06:44 PM)
http://gizmodo.com/5460694/steve-jobs-goog...mantra-is-bulls

"I" - Steve Jobs: Google's "Don't Be Evil" Mantra is "Bulls***"

He is shaking man....haaaa
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Tell me something new..LOL..His iPad seriously disappointed me..I had high hopes to see a nice tablet that could be my next gadget but all I got was total frustration..

QUOTE(Jcvendetta @ Feb 1 2010, 09:31 PM)
I plan to root my Nexus One, and I know this will void the warranty.. but is there a way to unroot back before sending for warranty so that "they" will not know that we rooted the device before?
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There is a way, but if you really worry about that day, then don't root.. smile.gif
To me, I expect my phone will not spoil within the warranty period and at least if it does, I know what to do then tongue.gif
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Anyone has any good GPS software to utilize our GPS unit in our phone? Im looking for something that doesn't need internet connection smile.gif like garmin
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I am waiting for Garmin android apps. Navigon also planned to release similar apps.


Added on February 1, 2010, 11:05 pmIpad = gigantic ipod touch.

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The four small panels is not as sensitive as I would have wish for. Need to press 3-4 times only worked. Sigh.
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that 4 small panel can be fine tune with software or it is a hardware problem? because it is really not sensitive !!!

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I think it's not very sensitive because they worry that when u type with the onscreen keyboard, u might accidentally press the home or back button..
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post Feb 2 2010, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(LYW @ Feb 2 2010, 07:28 AM)
I think it's not very sensitive because they worry that when u type with the onscreen keyboard, u might accidentally press the home or back button..
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oh ya ...how come i nvr thought about that...maybe thats why the reason the button is not that sensisitive...
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post Feb 2 2010, 08:53 AM

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for the 4 icons at the bottom..
you have to press slightly upper size of the icon for much sensitivity...

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post Feb 2 2010, 08:55 AM

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Yeah..Its purposedly made that way smile.gif You don't want to be taken to home screen while you're typing a message do you? biggrin.gif

Any Singaporeans here still? Still finding one..
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i have a problem here...
how do I download the pdf attachment from gmail application?

what pdf viewer you guys using now?
I have a 7mb pdf file cannot be opened.
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post Feb 2 2010, 08:59 AM

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Scan2PDF Mobile Lite smile.gif

Once you in the application, click Menu -> PDFs
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post Feb 2 2010, 09:47 AM

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guys, anyone of you using Digi 3G and MMS.

I'm trying to put both APNs in one APN profile, but the problem is its different APN name, one is DIGINET, the other's DIGIMMS.

or does the phone allow to use both profiles at the same time, i cant seem to select both.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
DIGI Data - Internet
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
APN: diginet
MCC: 502
MNC: 16

The rest of the field is blank.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


=========
DIGI MMS
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APN: digimms
username: mms
password: mms
MMSC: http://mms.digi.com.my/servlets/mms
MMS Proxy: 203.092.128.160
MCC: 502
MNC: 16
=========

Anyone, please? Thanks alot!
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post Feb 2 2010, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(shahz @ Feb 2 2010, 08:59 AM)
Scan2PDF Mobile Lite smile.gif

Once you in the application, click Menu -> PDFs
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but how do you save the pdf file from gmail application?
I cant see a download or save attachment as...


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