HDTV FAQ, For all Console users
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 May 26 2006, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ May 26 2006, 02:04 PM) Pls get that right, This isn't a SONY's exclusive idea. It is the ENTIRE industry. MS is a big advocator of DRM. Basically, they're just finding new ways to limits our rights and make their pockets bigger. I'm witchu. Screw DRM! Screw Broadcast Flag! Screw HDCP!Screw em all.  |
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May 26 2006, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ May 26 2006, 02:27 PM) I'm witchu. Screw DRM! Screw Broadcast Flag! Screw HDCP! the good news is HDCP implementation in HD-DVD/Blu-Ray movies is delayed until 2012.   |
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May 26 2006, 03:20 PM
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5,261 posts Joined: Oct 2004 From: J@Y B33
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if by 2012 the majority people still using crt/plasma/lcd HDtv with component, i'm sure HDCP will be scrapped. and seeing how slow people start transaction to newer technology in AV equiptment, 6 more years people probably still using the same technology as now. in USA HD transmission have begun for some years already, but there's still many using SDTV. one of the gamespot writer also still using SDTV eventhough he own XB360 and has the salary that can afford 2 1080p tv.
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May 29 2006, 02:06 AM
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594 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Bowser Koopa Castle
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My parents are planning on getting some plasma tv or really flat tv for their hometheater. Alot of people come during weekends to watch tv, chat, bbq, watch football, dvd, ect ect. Just to give a brief description on the enviroment. Since im staying there too i planning to add a console like Wii or X360 and maybe the PS3.
They want it flat and if possible, hang it on the wall.  I showed her this pic. And she said something like this. The Sony Bravia. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « And i know nuts about TV. Why this and not the 50" Wega which is the same price? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Or do u guys recommned some else since i know sony is kinda expansive. |
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May 29 2006, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE(koopa @ May 29 2006, 02:06 AM) My parents are planning on getting some plasma tv or really flat tv for their hometheater. Alot of people come during weekends to watch tv, chat, bbq, watch football, dvd, ect ect. Just to give a brief description on the enviroment. Since im staying there too i planning to add a console like Wii or X360 and maybe the PS3. The 50" Grand Wega is an LCD projection TV and it is quite big and bulky but they're much cheaper compared to plasmas and LCDs. If you want something flat that can be mounted on walls, LCDs and plasmas is the way to go. A 42" top brand panel starts at around RM8000+. LCD is more expensive than plasma so if you're trying to keep the cost down, a plasma TV would be a good choice.They want it flat and if possible, hang it on the wall. [imghttp://img346.imageshack.us/img346/2954/bravia1pi.jpg[/img] I showed her this pic. And she said something like this. The Sony Bravia. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « And i know nuts about TV. Why this and not the 50" Wega which is the same price? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Or do u guys recommned some else since i know sony is kinda expansive. OT: Can anybody give me the directions to Desa Home Theater in Puchong please. Wanna go check out something  This post has been edited by arj: May 29 2006, 02:37 AM |
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May 29 2006, 02:40 AM
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594 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Bowser Koopa Castle
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QUOTE(arj @ May 29 2006, 02:31 AM) The 50" Grand Wega is an LCD projection TV and it is quite big and bulky but they're much cheaper compared to plasmas and LCDs. If you want something flat that can be mounted on walls, LCDs and plasmas is the way to go. A 42" top brand panel starts at around RM8000+. LCD is more expensive than plasma so if you're trying to keep the cost down, a plasma TV would be a good choice. The sony site says the KLV-V40A10 40" BRAVIA(tm) LCD Flat Panel TV is RM13,999.00. Why did the spec say anything about 1080i, 720P, 576P, 480P. Would plasma have these ratings? Sry im really out. Any brand u recommend? |
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May 29 2006, 07:53 AM
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1,495 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: Damansara Perdana - KL
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QUOTE(koopa @ May 29 2006, 02:40 AM) The sony site says the KLV-V40A10 40" BRAVIA™ LCD Flat Panel TV is RM13,999.00. Why did the spec say anything about 1080i, 720P, 576P, 480P. Would plasma have these ratings? Sry im really out. AFAIK the Sony site tends to be quite sparse in its product description, probably because not many people know what the difference between 1080i - 720p is. I suggest you visit a Best Denki/whatever outlet for yourself and check out the specs in addition to surfing the net. Always get what your eyes like the most - you'll be spending at least 3 years with it.Any brand u recommend? Other than that I'd suggest staying away from projection TVs - but then again for that particular Wega I may be wrong. |
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May 29 2006, 08:27 AM
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Hi fellow enthusiasts,
I have been shopping for a 37"+ LCDTV for weeks. Haven't come to a decision yet. Primary uses are: a) Console gaming b) Astro c) DVD d) terrestial TV Tested a few DVDs that look great on my old CRT set but had less than great performance on a few LCD TVs. My choices are now between 1) Philips 42PF7420 at RM10,999 2) Samsung LA40R51 with HD950 at RM8,800 Right now I am leaning towards the Samsung package, but would like to seek your comments and if there are current owners, please give your feedback. Thanks |
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May 29 2006, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(agingamer @ May 29 2006, 08:27 AM) Tested a few DVDs that look great on my old CRT set but had less than great Personally I would lean towards the Samsung as well, especially if the Philips set is NOT a Pixel Plus2 set. The Samsungs have been very impressive so far and as for Philips I wouldn't settle for anything less than a Pixel Plus 2. The difference is enormous.performance on a few LCD TVs. My choices are now between 1) Philips 42PF7420 at RM10,999 2) Samsung LA40R51 with HD950 at RM8,800 Right now I am leaning towards the Samsung package, but would like to seek your comments and if there are current owners, please give your feedback. Thanks |
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May 29 2006, 12:14 PM
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594 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Bowser Koopa Castle
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Another thing i dont know is the lifespan of these tv. Since is my parents who is using it. I dont think they want to change it often. Ill try looking at samsung. I havnt been doing any comparing because im really busy these days. Im open for anything.
And i dont think plasma is cheaper. Form the post before. But i might be wrong. 42" Sony plasma costs RM21k which is RM11k more than the LCD |
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May 29 2006, 01:09 PM
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1,038 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: El Classico Kajangski
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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ May 29 2006, 08:30 AM) Personally I would lean towards the Samsung as well, especially if the Philips set is NOT a Pixel Plus2 set. The Samsungs have been very impressive so far and as for Philips I wouldn't settle for anything less than a Pixel Plus 2. The difference is enormous. agree with u, this model also good LA40R71B  |
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May 29 2006, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(PrinceOfPersia @ May 29 2006, 01:09 PM) Actually, I couldn't decide between Samsung R51 and R71 as well.R71 supposed to have better contrasts and game mode. Sounds like a silly question, is the Game Mode on the 40R71 important? Both I can get around the same price. RM8,800 = Samsung 40R51 + Samsung HD950 upscaler DVD player RM8,900 = Samsung 40R71 So which one to get? |
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May 29 2006, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(agingamer @ May 29 2006, 03:28 PM) Actually, I couldn't decide between Samsung R51 and R71 as well. Interesting combo. I'm curious to see how the upscaler performs, so I may be leaning towards that. This is assuming that all other specs are the same. Otherwise though, if I'm not mistaken the only advantage of the R71 is the ATSC tuner built in, which we may not even be able to use.R71 supposed to have better contrasts and game mode. Sounds like a silly question, is the Game Mode on the 40R71 important? Both I can get around the same price. RM8,800 = Samsung 40R51 + Samsung HD950 upscaler DVD player RM8,900 = Samsung 40R71 So which one to get? |
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May 29 2006, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(koopa @ May 29 2006, 02:40 AM) The sony site says the KLV-V40A10 40" BRAVIA(tm) LCD Flat Panel TV is RM13,999.00. Why did the spec say anything about 1080i, 720P, 576P, 480P. Would plasma have these ratings? Sry im really out. Not all plasma support all HDTV mode espescially the cheaper model. They also have a lifespan, usually up to 60,000 hours. But they mostly suffers from burn-in problem, hence they generally are not used for playing games.Any brand u recommend? QUOTE(koopa @ May 29 2006, 12:14 PM) And i dont think plasma is cheaper. Form the post before. But i might be wrong. 42" Sony plasma costs RM21k which is RM11k more than the LCD Basically Sony already out of the Plasma business. That's probabily older models. |
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May 29 2006, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(agingamer @ May 29 2006, 03:28 PM) Actually, I couldn't decide between Samsung R51 and R71 as well. I haven't really triend the game mode yet. Normally when I fire up my 360 I forgot to switch on the game mode R71 supposed to have better contrasts and game mode. Sounds like a silly question, is the Game Mode on the 40R71 important? Both I can get around the same price. RM8,800 = Samsung 40R51 + Samsung HD950 upscaler DVD player RM8,900 = Samsung 40R71 So which one to get?  The R7 looks much sexier compared to the R5. IMO the R7 is better but don't take my word for it. Just drop by to your nearest electrical retailer to do your own comparison. Chances are they have the R5 and R7 side by side or in the same area And here's a less than flattering review of the HD850  http://www.hometheaterfocus.com/blog/archi...08/02/2227.aspx I'm also thinking of getting a HD950 as well which is nearly identical to the HD850. Gotta view them in action first before pulling the trigger. |
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May 30 2006, 03:45 AM
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594 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Bowser Koopa Castle
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Do they have a slim screen like sony that can be hang ona wall? i see all of them has the support thinggy below. i guess its removeable. anything close to that? say around 40". I just got back frm work and will search more for it tmr. I hope u guys can narrow down my search.
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May 30 2006, 04:24 AM
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QUOTE(koopa @ May 30 2006, 03:45 AM) Do they have a slim screen like sony that can be hang ona wall? i see all of them has the support thinggy below. i guess its removeable. anything close to that? say around 40". I just got back frm work and will search more for it tmr. I hope u guys can narrow down my search. I was at Desa Home Theater just now and had a little chat with the salesperson. According to him if you watch mainly ASTRO and DVDs, plasma is a better choice and he recomended the Toshiba 42" plasma which is retailing for RM7500. It looks something like the model in the following link but I'm not too sure the exact model for the one at Desa.http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/pr...sp?model=42HP95 |
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May 30 2006, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(arj @ May 30 2006, 04:24 AM) I was at Desa Home Theater just now and had a little chat with the salesperson. According to him if you watch mainly ASTRO and DVDs, plasma is a better choice and he recomended the Toshiba 42" plasma which is retailing for RM7500. It looks something like the model in the following link but I'm not too sure the exact model for the one at Desa. Where is exactly Desa Home Theater? Near 1U right? Hows the price of the tvs there? Do they accept trade-ins? Thanks!http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/pr...sp?model=42HP95 |
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May 30 2006, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE(mikelee @ May 30 2006, 08:28 AM) Where is exactly Desa Home Theater? Near 1U right? Hows the price of the tvs there? Do they accept trade-ins? Thanks! I went to the one at LYP ground floor, next to Guardian Pharmacy. They also have a branch in Puchong but it's closed for renovation at the moment. Didn't really do any comparison on the prices. You might be able to get them a few bucks cheaper compared to the other big shops as you can bargain for the prices at Desa. Take the HD950 DVD player for example. It is selling for RM999 at Harvey Norman and the sticker price at Desa is identical. After some enquiries, the price was lowered to RM950. |
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May 30 2006, 02:53 PM
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594 posts Joined: Mar 2005 From: Bowser Koopa Castle
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QUOTE(arj @ May 30 2006, 04:24 AM) I was at Desa Home Theater just now and had a little chat with the salesperson. According to him if you watch mainly ASTRO and DVDs, plasma is a better choice and he recomended the Toshiba 42" plasma which is retailing for RM7500. It looks something like the model in the following link but I'm not too sure the exact model for the one at Desa. Thanx alot. I checked out the Toshiba 42HP95, it dosent have a 1080i but has a 720p. Will it compromise any DVD quality or gaming graphics?? But i know a 720p is better than 1080i.http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/pr...sp?model=42HP95 |
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